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Detshni Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.02 05:50:00 - [1] Is it 100% safe to mine in a hulk in 0.5? (from players) yes, that is what I'm asking.. Remember some talk about goons. But could never understand how hulks in 0.5 could be attacked in the first place. I have heard of gate camps, but that is a completely different dynamic. Jita Beer, cool, cold, green, and clear.
Uncle Mo Infusion. G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.11.02 05:51:00 - [2] No
EnslaverOfMinmatar Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition	Posted - 2008.11.02 05:52:00 - [3] yes, it is 100% safe sǝʎǝ ɹn ƃuıuınɹ `sɯnɹoɟ ɹn uı zı
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.11.02 05:53:00 - [4] you can still be killed, you're just guaranteed that whoever does loses their ship too (unless at war or if you take from their can / shoot them when they take from yours)
Korizan	Posted - 2008.11.02 05:54:00 - [5] Originally by: Detshni Is it 100% safe to mine in a hulk in 0.5? (from players) yes, that is what I'm asking.. Remember some talk about goons. But could never understand how hulks in 0.5 could be attacked in the first place. I have heard of gate camps, but that is a completely different dynamic. No that simple. Watch local & watch your belt for anything out of the ordinary
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2008.11.02 06:02:00 - [6] Originally by: Detshni Is it 100% safe to mine in a hulk in 0.5? (from players) yes, that is what I'm asking.. Remember some talk about goons. But could never understand how hulks in 0.5 could be attacked in the first place. I have heard of gate camps, but that is a completely different dynamic. First, there are no place in EVE you are 100% sure. Not even in High sec, which includes 1.0 to 0.5. You can be attacked directly. This is called unconsentual pvp. However the attacker will be shot down by concord as a result of attacking you. Getting away from concord is also deemed a bannable offence, so if the attacker gets away with his ship after attacking you you can report that to CCP who will investigate it, and take appropriate actions. Now, since an attack in high sec leads to concord retailiation, killers have many ways to get what they want. IF its your loot they can use suicideattacks. That is to kill you anyway, but bring in a different ship to pick up the loot you drop, while the attacker gets shot by concord. That is allowed. Another thing is can-flipping. That is to flip cans the miners mine in, and when the miner picks up the ore they turn red to the flipper, and they can freely shoot the miner. So yes, there are many ways to get around concord sanctions. Back to your question abouot safty. No. There are no safe place anywhere in EVE, but you have a relative high safy if you take some precautions: Like mining far away from crowded systems. Checking the can you pick up the ore from is your can first etc. Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL
Dyaven Interstellar Mining and Research	Posted - 2008.11.02 06:04:00 - [7] 0.5 no less safe than 1.0. Neither are very safe. :)
Detshni Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.02 06:07:00 - [8] what about attacking my drones? does that mean they get attacked by concord? Jita Beer, cool, cold, green, and clear.
Mal Plox The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.11.02 06:08:00 - [9] nothing is 100% safe ---
Detshni Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.02 06:12:00 - [10] sigh.. Ah well, I guess I'll just stay in 0.0 mining there. At least there, the risk vs. reward is logical enough, Jita Beer, cool, cold, green, and clear.

Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.11.02 06:13:00 - [11] haha www.siigarikitawa.com
Ris Dnalor Minmatar Ex Cruoris Libertas	Posted - 2008.11.02 06:16:00 - [12] actually, staying docked is generally pretty safe...
Detshni Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.02 06:20:00 - [13] actually I've heard of something new. A goon sneaking into the station in his pajamas and suicide bombing your ship while your eating your regular "Jita sandwich(tm)" concord will only react by destroying the entire station, and all players docked inside. Pretty logical. Jita Beer, cool, cold, green, and clear.
Aprudena Gist GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.11.02 06:36:00 - [14] nothing in the game is 100% safe and thanks for posting this i have a new name to find in empire :)
Detshni Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.02 06:45:00 - [15] glad that I keep you, and CCP happy. Osama Bin Laden is in my corp btw.. he loves the game too. Jita Beer, cool, cold, green, and clear.
Ris Dnalor Minmatar Ex Cruoris Libertas	Posted - 2008.11.02 06:57:00 - [16] Edited by: Ris Dnalor on 02/11/2008 06:57:43 Ambulation... can we camp doorways? I know they said we couldn't kill anyone but waht about headlocks, noogies, and swirlies.. and on that note I would like to officially request working toilets for ambulation
EnslaverOfMinmatar Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition	Posted - 2008.11.02 07:51:00 - [17] Would be cool if you could start a l4 mission(without a gate) in a system, that'll spawn real close to the asteroid belt and then bump the afk macro hulk into that mission sǝʎǝ ɹn ƃuıuınɹ `sɯnɹoɟ ɹn uı zı
Kerfira	Posted - 2008.11.02 09:33:00 - [18] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker First, there are no place in EVE you are 100% sure. Not even in High sec, which includes 1.0 to 0.5. This is actually incorrect.... There is no danger in stations, even in 0.0 (and you can make more money in stations than anywhere else) Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Demitria Fernir Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.11.02 09:50:00 - [19] Even mining in NPC corp with a rokh in 1.0 with t2 shield tanking is not safe. why should mining in 0.5 in an hulk be safer than that? _______________________________________________ 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101 I will Conquer My Signature Somewhere in the future 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101
SugeR RusH Caldari Red.	Posted - 2008.11.02 11:08:00 - [20] No, Its safer than Low sec & no sec BUT its less safe than 1. system. In 1. system you do not get rats, it 0.5 you get small rats. but aslong as you keep an eye on local and put a small rep on your hulk you should be fine.

joxter Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.11.02 11:13:00 - [21] If you want to be safer (never will be 100%) do not jet can mine, put cargo rigs and cargo expanders on your hulk and you can fit 5 Giant Secure Containers in the hold giving a capacity of 21k.
Bimjo Caldari Comply Or Die G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.11.02 11:46:00 - [22] question guys : Since CCP beefed up Concorde's response time,is it still possible to kill a freighter in hi sec via suicide ganking ? (talking about this happening at jumpgates)
RedSplat Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.11.02 11:54:00 - [23] yes
Demitria Fernir Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.11.02 11:59:00 - [24] Originally by: Bimjo question guys : Since CCP beefed up Concorde's response time,is it still possible to kill a freighter in hi sec via suicide ganking ? (talking about this happening at jumpgates) it will always be possible, unless concord starts to remote-repair the freighter. anyway, you'll just need more alphastrike, just that. _______________________________________________ 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101 I will Conquer My Signature Somewhere in the future 10100110010100101010011010100101001100101110101
gfldex Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.11.02 13:06:00 - [25] Originally by: Bimjo question guys : Since CCP beefed up Concorde's response time,is it still possible to kill a freighter in hi sec via suicide ganking ? (talking about this happening at jumpgates) A (well skilled) Thrasher does about 800hp burst dmg. If you got a lot friends you can pop anything anywhere. -- There are countless games in the world. There are at least as many ppl that dont like one or more rules of said games. That never stopped smart game designers from creating good games.
Bimjo Caldari Comply Or Die G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.11.02 13:13:00 - [26] Originally by: gfldex Originally by: Bimjo question guys : Since CCP beefed up Concorde's response time,is it still possible to kill a freighter in hi sec via suicide ganking ? (talking about this happening at jumpgates) A (well skilled) Thrasher does about 800hp burst dmg. If you got a lot friends you can pop anything anywhere. yes I know that,what I don't know is how many seconds between first strike and being concorded ? a freighter has about 150K total HP ? if concorde gives you 10 seconds you need 15000 dps ? around 18 to 25 ships,depending on type ?
minestar	Posted - 2008.11.02 14:37:00 - [27] What sort of ship and setup could destroy a hulk before concord done its thing??
The Slagh	Posted - 2008.11.02 14:40:00 - [28] Originally by: minestar What sort of ship and setup could destroy a hulk before concord done its thing?? Pretty much every battlecruiser(except the drake/cyclone), any battleship, possibly even a thorax... There's a lotta mean stuff, but unless you're loaded with amazing mods, there's nothing to worry about.

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2008.11.02 17:45:00 - [29] It's all a gamble!! Secure 3rd party service ■ Veldspar

Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.02 21:26:00 - [30] One way to stay safer. Use an alt to plink your shields with a noob ship weapon so Concord come in all guns blazing and pop your alt. Now Concord will hang around for a bit while you dock your alts pod. When Concord eventually disperse, bring out your alt in his shiny new freebie noobship and repeat. With Concord floating about right beside you, nobody is going to try to suicide gank you. Just remember that this doesn't protect you from can flippers, only suicide gankers. -- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken.

Kalintos Tyl Minmatar	Posted - 2008.11.02 21:42:00 - [31] Originally by: SugeR RusH No, Its safer than Low sec & no sec BUT its less safe than 1. system. In 1. system you do not get rats, it 0.5 you get small rats. but aslong as you keep an eye on local and put a small rep on your hulk you should be fine. Nope 0.0 is safest space to mine in eve when owned by your allliance. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0810/lie.jpg guide ninja edited already
Ikserak tai	Posted - 2008.11.03 14:42:00 - [32] Stay away from systems near main travel routes. Ombey's maps will let you find a number of dead-end systems that are off the beaten path. Amarr space (Domain, Kador, Kor-Azor) are thinly populated in many areas. Jihad-Storm and other gankers usually find plenty of fresh meat in populated areas without having to venture into the hinterland. Its not 100% safe, but close to it in my estimation. YOU'VE NEVER ROCKED 'TIL YOU'VE UNDOCKED.
Ghengis Tia	Posted - 2008.11.03 14:43:00 - [33] Originally by: Kalintos Tyl Originally by: SugeR RusH No, Its safer than Low sec & no sec BUT its less safe than 1. system. In 1. system you do not get rats, it 0.5 you get small rats. but aslong as you keep an eye on local and put a small rep on your hulk you should be fine. Nope 0.0 is safest space to mine in eve when owned by your allliance. Your signature is pure win, LOL!
Julius Rigel House Rigel	Posted - 2008.11.03 15:21:00 - [34] Originally by: Detshni Is it 100% safe to play EVE? FIXED. And no. Scared of the events forum?
Angel Lightbringer Dark Evolution Industries	Posted - 2008.11.03 15:22:00 - [35] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Getting away from concord is also deemed a bannable offence, so if the attacker gets away with his ship after attacking you you can report that to CCP who will investigate it, and take appropriate actions. IFAIK, doing such using a cyno (in a Black Ops) was an exploit 'till they did something with it. As it changed? Not sure, but I don't think getting away by your own means (warping off) is an exploit. Any link you might want to add? -Angel
Ashley Sky The Scope	Posted - 2008.11.03 17:26:00 - [36] Let me pipe in with some valuable information... I personally have killed hulks in up to 0.8 sec status level systems, using characters no older than 30 days, so no it's not 100% safe. Don't use what you can't afford to lose.
Chelone Ministry of War	Posted - 2008.11.04 01:12:00 - [37] Your ship will be perfectly safe. Perfectly safe. It is built so that even if the ship does break up, the storage holds cannot possibly be breached.
Aalana D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.11.04 02:01:00 - [38] NO ITS NOT SAFE... BE AFRAID... look to the sky THERE BE DRAGONS... or smarbombing BS looking for a blob of hulks and covetors all sitting together. Warp in, activate overloaded smartbombs and watch the fireworks. Instant -10 sec status when you kill a bunch of pods... but SOOOO worth it.
Snarker Caldari Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.11.04 04:56:00 - [39] Originally by: Angel Lightbringer Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Getting away from concord is also deemed a bannable offence, so if the attacker gets away with his ship after attacking you you can report that to CCP who will investigate it, and take appropriate actions. IFAIK, doing such using a cyno (in a Black Ops) was an exploit 'till they did something with it. As it changed? Not sure, but I don't think getting away by your own means (warping off) is an exploit. Any link you might want to add? It's definitely a bannable offense, I'll see if I can find a link. ----------------------------------------
Naervic Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.11.04 05:11:00 - [40] Read the first two rules in the thread here Golden Rules, which is stickied in the newcomers section. The first two rules say it pretty clearly. Concord is there to punish, not protect. The only way your safe from aggression is in a station.

Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2008.11.04 05:26:00 - [41] Originally by: Detshni Is it 100% safe to mine in a hulk in 0.5? (from players) yes, that is what I'm asking.. Remember some talk about goons. But could never understand how hulks in 0.5 could be attacked in the first place. I have heard of gate camps, but that is a completely different dynamic. Yes, it's 100% safe. Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam. [Vid] I M M O R T A L
joxter Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.11.04 07:42:00 - [42] The story of the butterfly A man found a cocoon of a butterfly. One day a small opening appeared. He sat and watched the butterfly for several hours as it struggled to squeeze its body through the tiny hole. Then it stopped, as if it couldn't go further. So the man decided to help the butterfly. He took a pair of scissors and snipped off the remaining bits of cocoon. The butterfly emerged easily but it had a swollen body and shriveled wings. The man continued to watch it, expecting that any minute the wings would enlarge and expand enough to support the body, Neither happened! In fact the butterfly spent the rest of its life crawling around. It was never able to fly. What the man in his kindness and haste did not understand: The restricting cocoon and the struggle required by the butterfly to get through the opening was a way of forcing the fluid from the body into the wings so that it would be ready for flight once that was achieved. Sometimes struggles are exactly what we need in our lives. Going through life with no obstacles would cripple us. We will not be as strong as we could have been and we would never fly. So have a nice day and struggle a little and teach well.
Aiden Bismuth Gallente Die Boeremag	Posted - 2008.11.04 08:07:00 - [43] Originally by: Chribba It's all a gamble!! If you are mining in the same system, nay, region, as Chribba, pack up your mining lasers, and go play with the exotic dancers at the nearest pleasure hub. Remember, all your Veldspar are belong to Chribba! Seriously, I mine regularly in 0.5, just watch local, and be aware of can flippers if you jetcan mine. Use drones for protection from rat spawns, but only deploy them when the rats appear/attack. Anyone who attacks you will feel the wrath of CONCORD, but as an added safety measure, stay align to a stargate, station, or celestial object. HTH AB
Tom Perrish Mystic Lion Hearts Sev3rance	Posted - 2008.11.04 08:33:00 - [44] everything 100% safe have to be a bug :-P
Chimii Lecto Gallente	Posted - 2008.11.04 08:37:00 - [45] Theres no such thing as "safe" in EVE. Unless of course you are mining in a deadspace tanked capital in a 1.0 security status system. ---------- /Pretty posting.
CrestoftheStars Recreation Of The World	Posted - 2008.11.04 08:57:00 - [46] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Originally by: Detshni Is it 100% safe to mine in a hulk in 0.5? (from players) yes, that is what I'm asking.. Remember some talk about goons. But could never understand how hulks in 0.5 could be attacked in the first place. I have heard of gate camps, but that is a completely different dynamic. First, there are no place in EVE you are 100% sure. Not even in High sec, which includes 1.0 to 0.5. that's a lie "stations", but that's about it, try to figure out why some people are just looking at their ships in the station and never actually taking them out XD ___________________________________________ Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both. For a wounded
Venduras	Posted - 2008.11.04 10:03:00 - [47] Originally by: Demitria Fernir Even mining in NPC corp with a rokh in 1.0 with t2 shield tanking is not safe. Hence why my Rokh only had two miner IIs (to fool) and 6 Neutron Blasters with five T2 Med Drones and a Warp Scrambler Any thief with half a brain could deduce the Rokh was armed but when they see a jetcan it's like a moth to the flame. Poor thieves claiming I was abusing their canflipping... You can mine in High-sec relatively safe, just make sure to keep a nice Invul II and a SSB with you.
5pinDizzy Amarr Umpteenth Podding	Posted - 2008.11.04 12:39:00 - [48] If you are asking if 0.5 is 100% safe to mine in with a hulk the answer is no. If you rounded that percentage up from 99.9% and actually really meant 99.9% safe, the answer is yes.


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