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Origim
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Posted - 2004.07.02 23:46:00 -
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Many have complained about people logging out in the middle of a battle and energency warp does the escape work for them... well, I have an idea:
When you initiate log off, you have to wait 20 seconds before logging out. Within those 20 seconds, you can't activate any modules. If you crash, or similar, your client would still be logged in for 20 seconds, after which you would warp out.
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Origim
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Posted - 2004.07.02 23:46:00 -
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Many have complained about people logging out in the middle of a battle and energency warp does the escape work for them... well, I have an idea:
When you initiate log off, you have to wait 20 seconds before logging out. Within those 20 seconds, you can't activate any modules. If you crash, or similar, your client would still be logged in for 20 seconds, after which you would warp out.
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.03 00:18:00 -
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Right it doesnt make sense to beging with in the first place to allow people to log off unless 100% unequivocable in a safe environment. What logic is behind letting people forcibly shut down their game or logofff and then be warped away to a safespot? Why cant people just sit where they are for 30 seconds until they are logged off? Becuase people want to exploit it in battle or tense situations like nPC hunting to save ship.
FIx your game CCP. I am honestly losing patience since well I had to take a 6 month break. I come back and went from a player from day 1 to a 3 million skill point noob with no chance of catching up to anyone. And It will take me 1 month at least just to get level 3 research agents. Its aggravating right now. And choices in the logout system just adds to me wanting to flame.
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.03 00:18:00 -
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Right it doesnt make sense to beging with in the first place to allow people to log off unless 100% unequivocable in a safe environment. What logic is behind letting people forcibly shut down their game or logofff and then be warped away to a safespot? Why cant people just sit where they are for 30 seconds until they are logged off? Becuase people want to exploit it in battle or tense situations like nPC hunting to save ship.
FIx your game CCP. I am honestly losing patience since well I had to take a 6 month break. I come back and went from a player from day 1 to a 3 million skill point noob with no chance of catching up to anyone. And It will take me 1 month at least just to get level 3 research agents. Its aggravating right now. And choices in the logout system just adds to me wanting to flame.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.07.03 00:23:00 -
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 Originally by: Sinist
Right it doesnt make sense to beging with in the first place to allow people to log off unless 100% unequivocable in a safe environment. What logic is behind letting people forcibly shut down their game or logofff and then be warped away to a safespot? Why cant people just sit where they are for 30 seconds until they are logged off? Becuase people want to exploit it in battle or tense situations like nPC hunting to save ship.
FIx your game CCP. I am honestly losing patience since well I had to take a 6 month break. I come back and went from a player from day 1 to a 3 million skill point noob with no chance of catching up to anyone. And It will take me 1 month at least just to get level 3 research agents. Its aggravating right now. And choices in the logout system just adds to me wanting to flame.
So you're upset because you dont have 11 million skillpoints? Well... you took a 6 month break. What on earth do you expect?
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.07.03 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sinist
Right it doesnt make sense to beging with in the first place to allow people to log off unless 100% unequivocable in a safe environment. What logic is behind letting people forcibly shut down their game or logofff and then be warped away to a safespot? Why cant people just sit where they are for 30 seconds until they are logged off? Becuase people want to exploit it in battle or tense situations like nPC hunting to save ship.
FIx your game CCP. I am honestly losing patience since well I had to take a 6 month break. I come back and went from a player from day 1 to a 3 million skill point noob with no chance of catching up to anyone. And It will take me 1 month at least just to get level 3 research agents. Its aggravating right now. And choices in the logout system just adds to me wanting to flame.
So you're upset because you dont have 11 million skillpoints? Well... you took a 6 month break. What on earth do you expect?
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shivan
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Posted - 2004.07.03 00:25:00 -
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Thats a neat little trick there, one i gotta remember, but think of it this way, there was a fight in u-qvwd the other day, with over 200 people in it, over 100 ships distroyed in 1 hour. Now in that fight there was monster lag, so the only way u could warp out quickly without lag affecting it would of been to shut down ur clinet.
Now in small fights, say 5 on 5, without lag, it would only shave a second or maybe 2 on ur warp out time anyhow, cuz all u have to do is double click like mad on star,plaent,moon,stargate to warp out.
So really all in all, STFU
Have a nice day.
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shivan
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Posted - 2004.07.03 00:25:00 -
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Thats a neat little trick there, one i gotta remember, but think of it this way, there was a fight in u-qvwd the other day, with over 200 people in it,over 100 ships distroyed in 1 hour. Now in that fight there was monster lag, so the only way u could warp out quickly without lag affecting it would of been to shut down ur clinet.
Now in small fights, say 5 on 5, without lag, it would only shave a second or maybe 2 on ur warp out time anyhow, cuz all u have to do is double click like mad on star,plaent,moon,stargate to warp out.
So really all in all, STFU
Have a nice day.
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Zerander
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Posted - 2004.07.03 01:24:00 -
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forced logging out even breaks warp jams(maybe only sometimes but it happened 2 times last nite when me and my friends were hunting enemy players). It SUCKS!!!!! Put a timer on it!
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Zerander
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Posted - 2004.07.03 01:24:00 -
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forced logging out even breaks warp jams(maybe only sometimes but it happened 2 times last nite when me and my friends were hunting enemy players). It SUCKS!!!!! Put a timer on it!
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Gaijin Lanis
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Posted - 2004.07.03 01:31:00 -
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Edited by: Gaijin Lanis on 03/07/2004 01:46:17
... Or they could just correct "warp jam breakage" problem...
This really is a non-debate though, people are b!%$*ing at CCP to force others to accept the loss of their ship and pod to a situation where they are totally removed from any control. I'm not refering to an ambush, I'm refering to flawed clent code which allows for the generation of absolutly crippling processor lag. Yes, people exploit the emergency warp quick fix. Should it be removed before the flaw is corrected? No.
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Gaijin Lanis
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Posted - 2004.07.03 01:31:00 -
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Edited by: Gaijin Lanis on 03/07/2004 01:46:17
... Or they could just correct "warp jam breakage" problem...
This really is a non-debate though, people are b!%$*ing at CCP to force others to accept the loss of their ship and pod to a situation where they are totally removed from any control. I'm not refering to an ambush, I'm refering to flawed clent code which allows for the generation of absolutly crippling processor lag. Yes, people exploit the emergency warp quick fix. Should it be removed before the flaw is corrected? No.
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Molly
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Posted - 2004.07.03 01:44:00 -
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Yep.
We need some serious PvP timers.
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Molly
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Posted - 2004.07.03 01:44:00 -
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Yep.
We need some serious PvP timers.
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Origim
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Posted - 2004.07.03 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: shivan
So really all in all, STFU
Have a nice day.
Yeah, thank you.
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Origim
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Posted - 2004.07.03 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: shivan
So really all in all, STFU
Have a nice day.
Yeah, thank you.
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Jozef Meurtrier
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Posted - 2004.07.03 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sinist
I come back and went from a player from day 1 to a 3 million skill point noob with no chance of catching up to anyone.
My 600k skillpoints and hordes of newbies joining every day say you're wrong.
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Jozef Meurtrier
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Posted - 2004.07.03 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sinist
I come back and went from a player from day 1 to a 3 million skill point noob with no chance of catching up to anyone.
My 600k skillpoints and hordes of newbies joining every day say you're wrong.
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Broc Vallion
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Posted - 2004.07.03 02:59:00 -
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Is logging off an exploit or not?
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Broc Vallion
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Posted - 2004.07.03 02:59:00 -
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Is logging off an exploit or not?
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Xadian
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Posted - 2004.07.03 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: shivan
Thats a neat little trick there, one i gotta remember, but think of it this way, there was a fight in u-qvwd the other day, with over 200 people in it,over 100 ships distroyed in 1 hour. Now in that fight there was monster lag, so the only way u could warp out quickly without lag affecting it would of been to shut down ur clinet.
Now in small fights, say 5 on 5, without lag, it would only shave a second or maybe 2 on ur warp out time anyhow, cuz all u have to do is double click like mad on star,plaent,moon,stargate to warp out.
So really all in all, STFU
Have a nice day.
I don't think having Iteron Vs warping away from gates in 0.0 then disappearing cause they logged when they jumped in less than 3 seconds is "shaving a few off". 
Always hit the big red button whenever you get the chance.
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Xadian
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Posted - 2004.07.03 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: shivan
Thats a neat little trick there, one i gotta remember, but think of it this way, there was a fight in u-qvwd the other day, with over 200 people in it,over 100 ships distroyed in 1 hour. Now in that fight there was monster lag, so the only way u could warp out quickly without lag affecting it would of been to shut down ur clinet.
Now in small fights, say 5 on 5, without lag, it would only shave a second or maybe 2 on ur warp out time anyhow, cuz all u have to do is double click like mad on star,plaent,moon,stargate to warp out.
So really all in all, STFU
Have a nice day.
I don't think having Iteron Vs warping away from gates in 0.0 then disappearing cause they logged when they jumped in less than 3 seconds is "shaving a few off".
Always hit the big red button whenever you get the chance.
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NeoMorph
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Posted - 2004.07.03 03:45:00 -
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The whole reason for this warp out on disconnect was to help people who CTD while in combat... Although it can be abused I dont think CCP will remove it while system stability is still an issue.
Lets face it logging out is an issue but you cant base it on unstable exits as these can be faked at the client end... Not saying how but it it IS possible so that's an other option removed.
I think it's just a case of "Shut up and Soldier"...
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NeoMorph
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Posted - 2004.07.03 03:45:00 -
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The whole reason for this warp out on disconnect was to help people who CTD while in combat... Although it can be abused I dont think CCP will remove it while system stability is still an issue.
Lets face it logging out is an issue but you cant base it on unstable exits as these can be faked at the client end... Not saying how but it it IS possible so that's an other option removed.
I think it's just a case of "Shut up and Soldier"...
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Haratu
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Posted - 2004.07.03 03:51:00 -
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SOLUTION
There is a way to stop the enemy logging out and warping... warp scramble them... it is known to work. If you do this then they dont stand a chance, especially when they are not controlling their ship.
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Haratu
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Posted - 2004.07.03 03:51:00 -
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SOLUTION
There is a way to stop the enemy logging out and warping... warp scramble them... it is known to work. If you do this then they dont stand a chance, especially when they are not controlling their ship.
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Molly
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Posted - 2004.07.03 04:04:00 -
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Originally by: Haratu
SOLUTION
There is a way to stop the enemy logging out and warping... warp scramble them... it is known to work. If you do this then they dont stand a chance, especially when they are not controlling their ship.
Erm...
Wrong. Even this can be exploited. I have seen people who disappeared. They just vanished. Like a Megathron having a jammer strength of 8 against it.
The whole system is screwed. Simple solution would be PvP timers. E.g. like the gate jump prevention timer.
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Molly
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Posted - 2004.07.03 04:04:00 -
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Originally by: Haratu
SOLUTION
There is a way to stop the enemy logging out and warping... warp scramble them... it is known to work. If you do this then they dont stand a chance, especially when they are not controlling their ship.
Erm...
Wrong. Even this can be exploited. I have seen people who disappeared. They just vanished. Like a Megathron having a jammer strength of 8 against it.
The whole system is screwed. Simple solution would be PvP timers. E.g. like the gate jump prevention timer.
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Lord Nemesis > 14 days till mining barge lvl 5 then im strip all the ice in eve
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.03 04:07:00 -
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No im saying on a PvP centric game why would you design a system where people can forcibly close or logout of their client to even have a remote chance of saving your ship? The same with dead space bookmarks.
I was just saying I am mad that I couldnt log in to do skill training for 6-8 months to keep on par with everyone. But that is my own fault. But it bring up another point. I liked the idea the dev talked about that would accelerate or decelerate your skill points based on how many you had. I dont care if im never caught up, but I would at least like some way possibly to catch up.
Regardless the two problems mentioned in my first paragraph, logging out and safespots are an inexcusable design flaw. The new logout system is even new and it is still idiotic in my opinion. I like the game and 98% of it is awesome. But there are some things I obviously dont agree with.
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.03 04:07:00 -
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No im saying on a PvP centric game why would you design a system where people can forcibly close or logout of their client to even have a remote chance of saving your ship? The same with dead space bookmarks.
I was just saying I am mad that I couldnt log in to do skill training for 6-8 months to keep on par with everyone. But that is my own fault. But it bring up another point. I liked the idea the dev talked about that would accelerate or decelerate your skill points based on how many you had. I dont care if im never caught up, but I would at least like some way possibly to catch up.
Regardless the two problems mentioned in my first paragraph, logging out and safespots are an inexcusable design flaw. The new logout system is even new and it is still idiotic in my opinion. I like the game and 98% of it is awesome. But there are some things I obviously dont agree with.
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