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Tinker1947
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Posted - 2008.11.03 21:08:00 -
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Not sure how this works, does the repping ship rep the Tower to bring the shields back up, and can this be done while the tower is under attack and i assume a Basilisk is the ship to use....any other info on the Art of Repping a Tower,,,,Thanks
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RedLion
Caldari Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.03 21:27:00 -
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Edited by: RedLion on 03/11/2008 21:27:55 yeah, but not likely to be able to rep shields under attack, since you would easily be attacked and killed. Also, generally the shield repair output of a logistic is not big compared to a dreadnaught damage. Logistics work but if you want to repair pos modules in combat, capital repairs are probably the best.
Also you can't lame rep (rep from outside a corp at war without getting flagged) (in hi sec)
You can't repair when the tower is in reinforced.
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Nercier
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Posted - 2008.11.03 21:28:00 -
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It can be done while the tower is under attack. You rep the tower and the tower cant be in reinforced. Yes it brings the shield back.
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Seragon
Caldari VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.11.03 21:34:00 -
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If you really are repping POS shields while it's under attack, be sure to hug the POS as close as possible to dive in as soon as the guns turn to you.
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Bloody Rabbit
Jita Miners
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Posted - 2008.11.04 05:07:00 -
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One easy way is to setup your Basilisk with an afterburner, it will take maxed out skills but a basilisk can operate cap stable with the afterburner and full large reppers.
One a side note, I saw a 0.0 group use shield repping drones from the inside of a POS repping. The way this worked?works is to target the POS before then send drones then fly into the POS. The drones keep working and your BS is safe behind the POS shields.
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.11.04 07:26:00 -
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The ships that are capable of doing shield repping are osprey, basilisk, scimitar, gal/min/caldari carriers & motherships.
Nothing else has the range to rep ;) - you need to be able to rep the control tower from outside the shields.
As people have said, you are likely to get shot while the tower is under actual attack if you're outside repping it. And you can't rep again until it leaves reinforced.
Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans CCP is a greedy money chewing monster
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Felax Thurin
Pegasus Mining and Securities
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Posted - 2008.11.04 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Bloody Rabbit One easy way is to setup your Basilisk with an afterburner, it will take maxed out skills but a basilisk can operate cap stable with the afterburner and full large reppers.
One a side note, I saw a 0.0 group use shield repping drones from the inside of a POS repping. The way this worked?works is to target the POS before then send drones then fly into the POS. The drones keep working and your BS is safe behind the POS shields.
This however is an exsploit
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Bloody Rabbit
Jita Miners
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Posted - 2008.11.04 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Felax Thurin
This however is an exsploit
I haven't seen anything that says so,
plus you can still shot the drones. |
Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.11.04 15:05:00 -
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Last I checked drones were not able to rep POS's as they didn't have the range, they lose the target when they fly inside the shield.
Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans CCP is a greedy money chewing monster
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Cheopis
Ardishapur Ammunition and More
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Posted - 2008.11.04 16:20:00 -
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I have tried to rep shields with drones and failed, and that was a small pos in Empire, back when shields set back to 50% over downtime if they were not near full.
They do not work. Or at least they did not.
I ended up training a alt on an osprey and repping with him.
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Moon Dogg
Gallente The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.11.04 17:51:00 -
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Edited by: Moon Dogg on 04/11/2008 17:53:25 Edited by: Moon Dogg on 04/11/2008 17:52:31 *** edit for fail-typos ***
Fit the Drone Control Range Augmentor I rig(s) to extend drone range? Each one gets you +15k range. Tech II version is +20k to range, but ISK-wise probably doesn't make sense if you are being attacked at the time and might lose the ship anyway.
Fitting a Drone Link Augmentor gives another +20k range, so you could go that route as well, rather than going with rigs. Also, if you train up the Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing Skill, you receive +3k to drone control range per level. Level 4 would be an extra 12k to your control range.
Not having ever done this, I would fit up some mods, get that skill trained up, and see what happens
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Clansworth
Burning Sky Labs Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.04 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: Moon Dogg Edited by: Moon Dogg on 04/11/2008 17:53:25 Edited by: Moon Dogg on 04/11/2008 17:52:31 *** edit for fail-typos ***
Fit the Drone Control Range Augmentor I rig(s) to extend drone range? Each one gets you +15k range. Tech II version is +20k to range, but ISK-wise probably doesn't make sense if you are being attacked at the time and might lose the ship anyway.
Fitting a Drone Link Augmentor gives another +20k range, so you could go that route as well, rather than going with rigs. Also, if you train up the Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing Skill, you receive +3k to drone control range per level. Level 4 would be an extra 12k to your control range.
Not having ever done this, I would fit up some mods, get that skill trained up, and see what happens
Those boost drone control range (which is the distance from YOU to your Drone).. The inadequacy of Shield repair bots is the 'shield Transfer Range', which is the range from the drone to the target. It is 5km for lights, 7.5km for med's, and 10km for heavies. None long enough to reach a tower.
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Moon Dogg
Gallente The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.11.05 00:30:00 -
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Ahhh, I see! |
Doc Iridium
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2008.11.05 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: Moon Dogg Edited by: Moon Dogg on 05/11/2008 00:37:05 Ahhh, I see!
So, with the optimal range of a Heavy Shield Maintenance Bot II being 10k, I am assuming that an Omnidirectional Tracking Link I does NOT boost the range that the drone can "shoot"?
Actually, that might work, though I have not tried it. On a small pos. I think the shield bubbles on a medium or large pos are simply too large for the drone to reach them from outside the shield, even with max skills and 8x omnis Well, I've said my piece - wait, is that Veldspar over there? Woot! |
Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.11.05 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Moon Dogg Edited by: Moon Dogg on 05/11/2008 00:37:05 Ahhh, I see!
So, with the optimal range of a Heavy Shield Maintenance Bot II being 10k, I am assuming that an Omnidirectional Tracking Link I does NOT boost the range that the drone can "shoot"?
Small tower is 15km shield, mid is 21km, large is 30km radius. So the drones actual optimal would need to be greater than that.
Your drone control range is not really all that relevant ;)
Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans CCP is a greedy money chewing monster
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Morgan Lorus
Caldari Unstable Reaction Inc. North Domain Defense Forces
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Posted - 2008.11.06 14:50:00 -
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Does "Drone Sharpshotting" increase the Drones repairrange? And is it even enough?
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2008.11.07 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Morgan Lorus Does "Drone Sharpshotting" increase the Drones repairrange? And is it even enough?
Assuming it does, with 5 omnidirectional tracking links, and drone sharpshooting V. And assuming no stacking penalty (is there one for these, probably). You could just barely rep a small POS, if it worked. A medium POS with 7, and a large one would be completely impossible. If there is a stacking penalty like other mods, it's likely impossible to even rep a small with drones.
Never mind that any size POS would take forever to rep, the drones will lose lock if they drift inside the shield, and they're still open to being shot themselves.
Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans CCP is a greedy money chewing monster
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Clansworth
Burning Sky Labs Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.11.07 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Morgan Lorus Does "Drone Sharpshotting" increase the Drones repairrange? And is it even enough?
I doubt it as the skill affects 'Optimal Range', and the applicable property of the drones is 'shield Transfer Range'.
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Lord Timelord
Point of No Return Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.16 08:36:00 -
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Here's the short anwser you are all looking for.
Drones CAN NOT rep a pos that has it's forcefield active. This is due to the orbit distance that the drone orbits it's intended target.
Even if you boosted it's repper range with omni's, they would still head straight for the tower and orbit it at their preset orbit distance.
I don't believe there currently is a module in game that allows you to change a drones orbit distance. So for the time being, you have to do it with remote repping modules from ships that get a bouns to remote repper range. |
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