I would rather not see anything like this in the game. The information is already available, but you need to work it out for yourself. Something like this takes a task which the player must do and moves that process so the client does it for them. It would lower the skill ceiling of the game, particularly for small scale combat.

This sounds like easy mode and is a TERRIBLE idea.

You have a distance column and transversal velocity column on your overview. Use them, and your knowledge of your ship's weapon systems.

Next thing you know people will want a green light that lights up when people are within tackle range and not tackled by anyone.

Edit: For those of you who don't know what the hell you're talking about, here's a brief explanation of how tracking works with transversal:

Tracking is a number in RADIANS PER SECOND. That's a number like 0.1 rad/sec. This is the maximum rate of rotation of your guns.

Transversal is a number in METERS PER SECOND. That's a number like 500 m/sec. This is the transversal component of your target's velocity, relative to you.

THESE TWO THINGS CANNOT BE COMPARED DIRECTLY. A THIRD PIECE OF INFORMATION IS NEEDED:

Distance is a number in METERS. That's a number like 23km. This is the actual raw distance between you and your target.

You need ALL THREE numbers in order to figure out if your guns will track. The farther you are, the less tracking you need for the same transversal, and vice versa.

The problem with the OP's suggestion is not that information is displayed clearly, it's that it does the thinking FOR THE PLAYER and spits it out in a nice easy "will it track?" bar. Clear information is not a problem, but turning transversal into "will it track" is an absolutely terrible idea.

There is a high skill cap to PvP in Eve, and this mechanic is an essential part of it. Deal with it.

That, or you can just look at angular velocity, which can also be shown in a column on the Overview. Comparing turret tracking in turret info directly to angular velocity is indeed very difficult. I see how you might think that makes the game difficult.

Heh, just learnt of this column myself. OP's suggestion is great.

Edit: NO, NVM. It still removes the requirement for people to learn their own guns' tracking. Still a terrible idea.

To everybody saying "this is already available in the overview you should all just learn to use it" -- your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.

If you really want to spend all your time in game looking at this, I guess I won't stop you, but I'd rather log in and look at something like this. I'm entirely in support of this concept.

Indeed, right clicking the module is hard as hell. What separates the best PvP'ers from everyone else is that they know the capabilities of their opponents. The information about your own ship is already right there for you, it's that encyclopedic knowledge of other ships and modules that makes the difference.

Exactly. This encyclopedic knowledge of Eve is what separates expert players from experienced players from new players. It takes people years to learn all of this stuff, and now you want to just condense it all into "red = can't shoot, green = can shoot."

Terrible. Absolutely terrible idea. Next thing you know, there's a red outline around ships that aren't tackled by anything and "Show Info" on modules will just be removed from the game.

Making stuff hard for no reason when there is a better alternative doesn't make sense, yeah the way it works now is ok but it would be like me complaining that people don't use manual lawn mowers anymore because they are more manly and riding mowers are girly. Making stuff easier to use is good.

The problem isn't making stuff easier to use, it's doing the thinking for the player. If the OP's suggestion was just a visual way to display the target's range and angular velocity, that's fine - it's the built-in comparison to your OWN guns' tracking and optimal that is the problem.

The problem isn't making stuff easier to use, it's doing the thinking for the player. If the OP's suggestion was just a visual way to display the target's range and angular velocity, that's fine - it's the built-in comparison to your OWN guns' tracking and optimal that is the problem.

The problem isn't making stuff easier to use, it's doing the thinking for the player. If the OP's suggestion was just a visual way to display the target's range and angular velocity, that's fine - it's the built-in comparison to your OWN guns' tracking and optimal that is the problem.

Memorizing the range and tracking for your weapons does not take skill.

This is not dumbing down the game. Presenting the information to the player in a way that is easy to access and understand is the purpose of the UI. The skill comes in determining what to do with that information.

If you engage a ship that you can't track, this change will not allow you to track them any better. It'll just show you why you're getting your **** stomped. Which is the purpose of the UI.

I would rather not see anything like this in the game. The information is already available, but you need to work it out for yourself. Something like this takes a task which the player must do and moves that process so the client does it for them. It would lower the skill ceiling of the game, particularly for small scale combat.

Indeed, right clicking the module is hard as hell. What separates the best PvP'ers from everyone else is that they know the capabilities of their opponents. The information about your own ship is already right there for you, it's that encyclopedic knowledge of other ships and modules that makes the difference.

Memorizing the range and tracking for your weapons does not take skill.

This is not dumbing down the game. Presenting the information to the player in a way that is easy to access and understand is the purpose of the UI. The skill comes in determining what to do with that information.

If you engage a ship that you can't track, this change will not allow you to track them any better. It'll just show you why you're getting your **** stomped. Which is the purpose of the UI.

Really like this idea. The general lack of UI elements like this in EVE is likely a large part of why it doesn't retain a lot of people who might otherwise really enjoy its combat.
Let's face it, thinking about two points in liquid-space moving around each other, while staring at a spreadsheet of numbers describing this, isn't exactly the most gripping gameplay out there. The more UI elements there are to better illustrate all the mechanics that are really in play, the more absorbing the combat will be for a larger audience. And all without actually changing any existing mechanics. The numbers are all still there for people to pour over, and the strategy just a deep.

I'm a tad confused by the second picture ( http://i.imgur.com/ipcUF.jpg )
Can the creator of it explain why the left side of the range bar is red? Turrets don't have minimum range in EVE.

NO NO NO and NO.

We dont need W0W-like addons for EVE interface. All the information is on show info. Its up to you to find that out during combat. Its exactly what separates a good pilot vs a bad one. A good pilot will be calm during battle and will calculate everything for himself.
WE DONT NEED W0W-LIKE ADDONS FOR EVE. GO BACK TO W0W IF YOU WANT AN EASY GAME, WITH ADDONS THAT DO EVERYTHING EXCEPT MOVE YOUR CHARACTER.

How is a better interface make it like WoW? I think that presenting the information that you need to be effective in a more precise manner doesn't change the fundamental workings of the game it just makes it more user friendly, this wouldnt make a bad pvper good it would just make life in EVE better.

NO NO NO and NO.

We dont need W0W-like addons for EVE interface. All the information is on show info. Its up to you to find that out during combat. Its exactly what separates a good pilot vs a bad one. A good pilot will be calm during battle and will calculate everything for himself.
WE DONT NEED W0W-LIKE ADDONS FOR EVE. GO BACK TO W0W IF YOU WANT AN EASY GAME, WITH ADDONS THAT DO EVERYTHING EXCEPT MOVE YOUR CHARACTER.

NO NO NO and NO.

We dont need W0W-like addons for EVE interface. All the information is on show info. Its up to you to find that out during combat. Its exactly what separates a good pilot vs a bad one. A good pilot will be calm during battle and will calculate everything for himself.
WE DONT NEED W0W-LIKE ADDONS FOR EVE. GO BACK TO W0W IF YOU WANT AN EASY GAME, WITH ADDONS THAT DO EVERYTHING EXCEPT MOVE YOUR CHARACTER.

The new mock up is really nice, wonder if anyone at CCP has seen this and what they think. Really would like this in the game.