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Innaara
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.11.07 13:53:00 -
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Doesn't anybody get it that the reason they deploy this "expansion" is because next week WoW will launch Wrath of the Linch King. They have nothing except the Orca and the noob buff (speed nerf; excellent for noobs in T1 frigs an BS-es. Blob ftw!). Commenting on that Eve64 / Stackless IO crap is just a PR stuff. Medals??? Certificates?? Oh please...
1. They want new players that don't have any idea what once was. 2. Negative publicity is publicity. 3. We invested so much time in EVE. CCP Knows we will stay.
1 + 2 + 3 = MORE MONEY.
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Lazuran
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.11.07 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Innaara Doesn't anybody get it that the reason they deploy this "expansion" is because next week WoW will launch Wrath of the Linch King. They have nothing except the Orca and the noob buff (speed nerf; excellent for noobs in T1 frigs an BS-es. Blob ftw!). Commenting on that Eve64 / Stackless IO crap is just a PR stuff. Medals??? Certificates?? Oh please...
1. They want new players that don't have any idea what once was. 2. Negative publicity is publicity. 3. We invested so much time in EVE. CCP Knows we will stay.
1 + 2 + 3 = MORE MONEY.
This and that they are trying to release 2 expansions per year (according to Oveur's recent dev blog entry anyway).
They probably wanted to release Ambulation instead, but meh ... They actually sat down and worked for 1 week to cough up StacklessIO, we should be eternally thankful. ;-)
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Jowen Datloran
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.11.07 17:26:00 -
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Well, I support of the OP I will never refer to Quantum Rise as anything else than a patch. Tweaking of existing game mechanics and server hardware upgrades just simply not fit within my concept of a "content upgrade" even less "expansion".
I mean, within half a year or so nobody can even remember what QR added to the game content wise. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar Rage of Inferno
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Posted - 2008.11.07 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jowen Datloran Well, I support of the OP I will never refer to Quantum Rise as anything else than a patch. Tweaking of existing game mechanics and server hardware upgrades just simply not fit within my concept of a "content upgrade" even less "expansion".
I mean, within half a year or so nobody can even remember what QR added to the game content wise.
I'll remember the Orca.. thats about it.
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Jowen Datloran
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.11.07 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Gone'Postal
Originally by: Jowen Datloran
I mean, within half a year or so nobody can even remember what QR added to the game content wise.
I'll remember the Orca.. thats about it.
Exactly. The Orca is it. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
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Valrandir
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.11.07 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Oftherocks Edited by: Oftherocks on 06/11/2008 10:37:11 Over time I have noticed that CCP talk about their expansions as though they are the same as their competitors, but free. I also have read devs say they are "offering" us a free expansion. Based on these facts it only makes sense that we can decline these "offered" free expansions just like one can decline to pay for one of CCP's competitors expansions. Therefore, after checking out the new free expansion named Quantum Rise, I have decided to not accept this particular expansion.
Decline in your uber arrogance and stop playing. That is not a problem.
Originally by: Oftherocks Why have I decided to decline the offer of this expansion? Let me just hit on a few of my reasons:
ok explain
Originally by: Oftherocks Stackless IO/Eve 64 bit - The fact you are trying to say this is part of your "expansion" is laughable. You already deployed it. It is a tool for you to use to make the game function properly. It would be like saying you have bought some new blades and counting that as an expansion.
Right it's already deployed. However it is awesome regardless.
Originally by: Oftherocks UI changes - All I have to say is, "Did you really keep T20 for this?"
Misinformed and full of negative assumption. Got an agenda here? You fit pitchforks in heavy launchers on your raven?
Originally by: Oftherocks Speed Rebalanced - When you announced you were tackling the speed problem I really didn't believe you could make things worse. You have proved me wrong. The idea was to allow for greater variety in set-ups, instead you have made it so there are only 2 viable damage dealers, lasers and rails. You have asked for feedback from the community; why aren't you paying any attention?
Happy pilots are silent, angry pilots cry. CCP got plenty of feedback about how speed is broken, leading to this rebalance. Now nano *****s are angry, and cry. This is normal. Some pilots will leave, most will come back, some will adapt, most will copy them. Don't worry ok?
Originally by: Oftherocks Orca - The only new ship. It does a bunch of thing poorly, and nothing well. Again you have asked for community feedback and yet ignored all suggestions.
Don't use it then. And every expension should not introduce tons of new ships.
Originally by: Oftherocks Medals/Certificates - Really? Are we five year olds looking for pretty ribbons? Who do you think plays this game?
Can't you foresee all the good things this brings in? There is no one more blind then someone who don't want to see.
Originally by: Oftherocks New Stargates - I gotta admit, they look nice. Of course the current ones look nice too.
What's your point?
Originally by: Oftherocks Improved Autopilot - The only real reason for this is so we can avoid Jita. We need to avoid Jita because in the past your servers couldn't handle the load.
Not this is not the only reason.
Originally by: Oftherocks GTC/Pilot License - I've posted before what I think of your GTC's and I won't repeat myself on them. But I will say this is just asking for trouble (i.e. scam petitions, monopolies, etc...)
Be silent now.
Originally by: Oftherocks Due to these reasons and many more I could mention, I have decided to decline your offer of a free "expansion" at this time. Thanks anyway, I know you work hard, but this one isn't for me.
Surely after this statement of yours, CCP will reconsider their existence and consult you about how they should do things. Or maybe this isen't the only reasonable conclusion?
Originally by: Oftherocks (For the forum *****s, no I am not quiting, no you may not have my stuff, and yes I am aware this is a very emo whine )
Decline the expension, but not quitting? Playing Login Screen and forums only?
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Valrandir
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.11.07 19:08:00 -
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What a bunch of silly clowns poasting here.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.07 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Valrandir
Originally by: Oftherocks Speed Rebalanced - When you announced you were tackling the speed problem I really didn't believe you could make things worse. You have proved me wrong. The idea was to allow for greater variety in set-ups, instead you have made it so there are only 2 viable damage dealers, lasers and rails. You have asked for feedback from the community; why aren't you paying any attention?
Happy pilots are silent, angry pilots cry. CCP got plenty of feedback about how speed is broken, leading to this rebalance. Now nano *****s are angry, and cry. This is normal. Some pilots will leave, most will come back, some will adapt, most will copy them. Don't worry ok?
You haven't been on SISI at all if you claim nano *****s are angry. At all. Meaning you have no clue whatsoever on the changes they've done. Get it?
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Van Steiza
Eternal Perseverance
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Posted - 2008.11.07 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Valrandir
Originally by: Oftherocks Speed Rebalanced - When you announced you were tackling the speed problem I really didn't believe you could make things worse. You have proved me wrong. The idea was to allow for greater variety in set-ups, instead you have made it so there are only 2 viable damage dealers, lasers and rails. You have asked for feedback from the community; why aren't you paying any attention?
Happy pilots are silent, angry pilots cry. CCP got plenty of feedback about how speed is broken, leading to this rebalance. Now nano *****s are angry, and cry. This is normal. Some pilots will leave, most will come back, some will adapt, most will copy them. Don't worry ok?
You haven't been on SISI at all if you claim nano *****s are angry. At all. Meaning you have no clue whatsoever on the changes they've done. Get it?
Branko I so agree half the people who reply back dont know the first ****ing part of what there talking about. There were so many ways to kill speed fit ships pre nerf My rupture or cane could rip a ****ing nanoship out the sky god it doesnt take specialisation just effort and pilot skill. Only when people spend billions on ships like that do they start to become really insane and you could then say overpowered if you wish but i call it just pimp because spending money if u have it is wrong isnt it?
Nerfing medium drones? LOL OH WOW we use medium drones there so good for everything we dont use light drones enough so to FORCE not encourange FORCE us to use light drones more ccp nerfs medium drones.
Huzzah
<3 branko Il have my sleipner and cane i guess after patch ey. ----------------------------------------------- Stop removing my Sig its fine!!!! Nerf Moderaters. |

Arvald
Caldari Ninjas N Pirates
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Posted - 2008.11.07 20:09:00 -
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ok your choice if you dont want to dl the expansion,.....i mean ofcorse you wont be able to connect to the servers but hey thats the small price you pay to make a stand 
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.07 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Van Steiza
<3 branko Il have my sleipner and cane i guess after patch ey.
Heh. I lost another (and probably last) of my Hurricanes engaging a Cerb+Cyclone yesterday in a blaze of fire (Cyclone died, although I botched the engagement, starting with 70% armour damage and no drones ftl), not sure I'll be getting another one for solo work.
It sure is easy to spank solo nanoships with a plate cane, their best expected outcome is run away - and I've killed a fair number. But w/e, everything got nerfed including nanos. Solo tackle, medium drones, turrets, missiles, you name it.
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Van Steiza
Eternal Perseverance
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Posted - 2008.11.07 20:37:00 -
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Yeh man they pretty much killed everything, I could take on multiple in the rep cane it use to go like 1.8 with ma skills. Its a great ship to fight with in fall off against battleships in prolonged solos where you know when you find those type of targets :P It takes for ever but eventualy they die XD No more of that I guess seing as the way there nerfing everything.
Ughh Guess my navy mega and megas with blasters going to suck >_< gosh what a pointless patch with all the nerfs.
They have gone about balancing speed the wrong way Somethings are nice but they just ****ed it up like they did with all the past nerfs cept this will royally **** up alot of other things.
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Polly Prissypantz
Dingleberry Appreciation Society
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Posted - 2008.11.07 20:45:00 -
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Considering the amount of CCP bashing I've been doing recently, I feel kinda dirty defending CCP here, but... CCP can call this patch whatever the **** they want to. They can call it your grandmas dirty panties if they wish. Don't like it? Stiff ****.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.07 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Van Steiza Yeh man they pretty much killed everything, I could take on multiple in the rep cane it use to go like 1.8 with ma skills. Its a great ship to fight with in fall off against battleships in prolonged solos where you know when you find those type of targets :P It takes for ever but eventualy they die XD No more of that I guess seing as the way there nerfing everything.
Ughh Guess my navy mega and megas with blasters going to suck >_< gosh what a pointless patch with all the nerfs.
They have gone about balancing speed the wrong way Somethings are nice but they just ****ed it up like they did with all the past nerfs cept this will royally **** up alot of other things. :(
Yeah. Oh, well, back to SISI and trying to salvage something. I've been on SISI a lot these days trying to get something to work post patch. It's just a depressing patch really.
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Van Steiza
Eternal Perseverance
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Posted - 2008.11.07 21:07:00 -
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It is indeed:(
I have 5 hurricanes Because they are so awesome but they are going to loose there uniqueness after patch.
What to do man we got to go on right but its just so stupid there rushing this man rushing it! ----------------------------------------------- Stop removing my Sig its fine!!!! Nerf Moderaters. |

The Slagh
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Posted - 2008.11.07 21:09:00 -
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No, I don't think you're going to pass if you want to continue playing.
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Disteeler
Moritso Technologies
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Posted - 2008.11.07 21:16:00 -
[107]
My IQ dropped after reading this thread :l
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canihazurstuff
Hard Corp Carbide and Diamonds Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.07 21:43:00 -
[108]
Originally by: FarosWarrior I will be happy to say this:
you stuff, canihaz?
everyone.. give it to me now... all of it..
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Marlene Steiza
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Posted - 2008.11.07 21:47:00 -
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GIVE him ur stuff! He can has it ! GIVE
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Complete Tart
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.11.07 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Marlene Steiza GIVE him ur stuff! He can has it ! GIVE
My IQ drops every time I read crap like this, so much so that it's dropped to minus now
Every ****in thread these days has some 'can I have your stuff' comment
FFS get some new material 
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canihazurstuff
Hard Corp Carbide and Diamonds Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.07 22:01:00 -
[111]
I don't have to say anything.. just read my name and follow instructions.
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NanoRunner
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Posted - 2008.11.07 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Shinona Tereqa Stop trolling OP.
a) The expansion is free *unlike other such MMO's* b) You claim the orca to be rubbish - have you used it with a high-sec mining op ? c) Lastly, have you ever been happy with EVE ? You seem to claim that anuthing new is rubbish, if you want no change go and play WOW - same dungeons every day.
I think his point is it is a far stretch of imagination to call this patch an expansion. Free or not is not the issue. The point is the level of expectation for a full blown mmorpg is much greater than this minor set of patch notes that we currently see.
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