Originally by: MotherMoon

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I don't know blinky, this seems mightly different. This time the reason is, it's a "pointless feature". AS in why would the player want to. This goes abck to the quote about how players don't want to have a cool animation of docking and undocking.

Excuse me but maybe the players should tell CCP what they do and don't want.

And then maybe CCP should say something like

"we are doing this at 1st but we'll get around to it someday"

instead of

"WE decided it's something no one would want to use pass the 1st time"

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Originally by: Neth'Rae

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Edited by: Neth''Rae on 08/11/2008 01:57:16

Originally by: Mica Swanhaven

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Well I for one play eve for the spaceships, so if there are no spaceships in ambulation, even sitting ones, I won't enjoy it.

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So you don't play any other games that doesn't have space ships everywhere?

Originally by: Kransthow

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Where has ccp stated you won't be able to see your ship in ambulation?

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Probably something during Fanfest.
But I brought it up ages ago, that we probably wouldn't see huge scale spaceships because they would have to remake the trinity models and textures to be used in such huge scale.

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Originally by: CCP Mitnal

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You put a bear in your tea???

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Originally by: soldieroffortune 258

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"Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer"

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Originally by: Dmian

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Originally by: FanFest 2008 - BattleClinic Reports!

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A question was raised in the audience a bit later about why we couldn't walk to the hangar bay and look at our ship.
Dev reply: Its a lot of development for something you'll only do when you get a new ship, and there were more important things to focus on.

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That's why.

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Originally by: Winterblink

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Originally by: MotherMoon

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I don't know blinky, this seems mightly different. This time the reason is, it's a "pointless feature". AS in why would the player want to. This goes abck to the quote about how players don't want to have a cool animation of docking and undocking.

Excuse me but maybe the players should tell CCP what they do and don't want.

And then maybe CCP should say something like

"we are doing this at 1st but we'll get around to it someday"

instead of

"WE decided it's something no one would want to use pass the 1st time"

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When do you want ambulation? 2015?

There's such a thing as diminishing returns. It's not like one person takes an hour to just whip this kind of thing together. Dock environments need to be designed, modeled, textured, etc.

Ships look great in space, but how about that texture blown up so huge you can't take it in with 10 screenfuls of panning? (oh snaaaaap)

well it looked damn fine in the trailer. And it looked fine in the art book even super upclose. Hel you know they have higher rez models! in the trailer they are so close to the screen all you can see is the ship!

Dude I'm an animator, starting this year I've worked on games and have started a resume. And why are you thinking so close minded, that's not like you.

For instance, put in a window, TA DA, you can see you ship but not too close to it.

Once again why do you think they would look terrible, they looked fine in the trailer. The trick being, you can't WALK UP TO, the ship. but it's there. the ships are modeled. They even animated it happening already. it would take most likely 100 man hours to finish a good system that worked nicely without making the models look bad. Get 2 artist on it and they will be done with the project in about 3 weeks. This does not equal 2015.

Actully... are you the same blinky? did you sell your account or something? I can't see you saying something like "2015" and then somethign about "a couple hours"

it would be hard work, duh that's the point. This is about if those 10 man hours are worth it or not.




And once again, the in-game models look fine up-close. Without ships it just feels like you pop into a random area that might as well not even be where you ship is.

ok here is ANOTHER idea, dispite you being so un-moving on the topic.
When in your captins quaters you can open a window and see you ship from afar like you pod travels down to where you are now, leaving the ship in the distance. But then it would feel, even if the ship looked smaller than it does when your in the ship, like the ship is somewhere.

I'm sorry but I don't like magic teleporting enviroments. Ever play ICO for the PS2? while I'm not saying CCP should go to that extreme, they hired people to make it feel like things worked... so where is the docking bay...

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Originally by: soldieroffortune 258

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the "seeing your ship" part shouldnt be to difficult to render, as someone said "you would have to re-render all trinity graphics" (or words to that effect) but actually, they wouldnt, remember, ambulation will be on a compeltely seperate server, they can change the way the ships look all they want since they are basically "starting from scratch" they might use the base models they already have for the ships, but, they would blow them up, maybe add a few new features

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Originally by: MotherMoon

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Edited by: MotherMoon on 08/11/2008 07:48:43

well it looked damn fine in the trailer. And it looked fine in the art book even super upclose. Hel you know they have higher rez models! in the trailer they are so close to the screen all you can see is the ship!

Dude I'm an animator, starting this year I've worked on games and have started a resume. And why are you thinking so close minded, that's not like you.

For instance, put in a window, TA DA, you can see you ship but not too close to it.

Once again why do you think they would look terrible, they looked fine in the trailer. The trick being, you can't WALK UP TO, the ship. but it's there. the ships are modeled. They even animated it happening already. it would take most likely 100 man hours to finish a good system that worked nicely without making the models look bad. Get 2 artist on it and they will be done with the project in about 3 weeks. This does not equal 2015.

Actully... are you the same blinky? did you sell your account or something? I can't see you saying something like "2015" and then somethign about "a couple hours"

it would be hard work, duh that's the point. This is about if those 100 man hours are worth it or not.....

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Originally by: Roy Batty68

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Players are rarely practical about their own behaviors. Once the new wears off, will you be complaining about having to look at something you've already seen a hundred times? Then what? Skip it?

Ok, so you rode the high of seeing your ship in ambulation for (how long? a week? two weeks maybe?) a time and now you're either skipping past it or complaining that now you have to look at it.

How much dev time is that worth? A couple weeks worth of "that's cool"...

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Originally by: Chaos Incarnate

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I frankly don't care if my ships are on display, but it would be nice to get a sense of scale and see some ships from inside stations.

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Originally by: Dmian

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there were more important things to focus on.

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Originally by: MotherMoon

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This is by far what I'm lobbying for. It doesn't have to MY SHIP, it just has to have ships in it.

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