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Thorson Wiles
Minmatar
M3 Co-Op
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Posted - 2008.11.10 16:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Hsallie
Remember he is not asking for a boost, so more cargo space is out of the question(as that would be a boost) but balancing the hulks yield to fit better with the new bonuses of the orca IS a good idea.
No the OP was to:
Originally by: Neill Kerry
my suggestion and rather need or even logic step is to reballance hulks cargohold!
This equates specifically to a modified (larger) hold, and not a reduction in yeald.
That's why the dissent.
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Umm, yeah. Don't have any time to talk now. Maybe later.
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Miraqu
Caldari
Amarrian Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.11.10 20:38:00 -
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I would really like to see an expanded Hulk cargohold.
But:
The yield is greater than the hold, it has been that way for some time.
Never tried mining with a Rorqual I assume? The orca is only a smaller Rorqual, so the problem existed only in 0.0 Space until that patch.
So far the only way is to put some Cargorigs in. So I don't think CCP will change anything just because that problem hits highsec now.
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Chomapuraku
Caldari
Phantasmal Collective
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.11 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Sig Sour
Cargohold Optimization
You don't want to spend the money, stagger your miners.
this thread has been won. please make your way towards the exit.
seriously, if you're willing to spend the 400 million isk and all that skilling-up on an orca, you can spend an extra 60 mil on rigs for your hulk.
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Zibu 81
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.11 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Neill Kerry
hulk has to be reballanced with new technologys available,
whats new?
now we have mining upgrades II giving 9% yield bonus(2x in low slots)
Orca now provides 15% yield bonus, aprox -25% cycle reduction and aporx same % to laser range
Mining drone rigs that pushes harvesting drones to provide over 500m3 a minute
my suggestion and rather need or even logic step is to reballance hulks cargohold!
why?
hulk now yields over 8000m3 a cycle thus we need to get 10000m3 cargohold on hulk as soon as possible just to cover the yield base a cycle
hope this will be taken into consider, its not some silly idea just cose i would like to have that cargohold but rather something that needs to be ballanced with new technologys we have been given
CCP rulez :)
Or you know, CCP could reduce the Hulk's max yield...so that even if maxed it would still fit in the cargo hold. 
Because it seams right now it's unbalanced when it's fit for max yield...
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Tarron Sarek
Gallente
Biotronics Inc.
Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.11.12 00:48:00 -
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Edited by: Tarron Sarek on 12/11/2008 00:49:36
The Hulk's clearly overpowered at the moment.
I agree to a rebalance change that brings the yield more in line with the cargohold.
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Squasar
Caldari
Ukami Industries
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Posted - 2008.11.12 02:06:00 -
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Umm, I'm only pulling 3800m3 per cycle, so your cracked out method and wanted for a nerf of the Hulk's yield would hurt most of the mining society. Stagger your drones and strips and don't ruin mining for the rest of us.
kthxbye
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Anton Cyldragen
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Posted - 2008.11.12 03:40:00 -
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couldn't you just stagger the mining laser's so they deposit at different times allowing you to move the ore out of you hold or do u just want to not have to pay attention to your comp screen while you mine?
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Neill Kerry
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Posted - 2008.11.12 05:44:00 -
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Edited by: Neill Kerry on 12/11/2008 05:45:00
Strip miners themselfs do not go over 8000m3 mininig drones and strip miners thougather max out and riged do in combination with max trained orca pilot thus gang links for mining
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Clansworth
Burning Sky Labs
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.12.03 09:10:00 -
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Edited by: Clansworth on 03/12/2008 09:11:44
So has anyone figured out yet how the OP was getting more than 8000m¦/cycle out of his/her hulk? I still fail to see how this is any kind of a problem, other than someone being too lazy to drag the ore out every cycle.
MAX HULK YIELD:
(with All maxed skills, both 5% implants, 2 Mining Upgrade II's, Veldspar Crystal II, Mindlinked Foreman)
1961m¦/laser/cycle * 3 lasers = 5883m¦/cycle.
(5 Harvester Drones w/ maxed skills and 2 Tech ii Drone Yield Rigs)
97.4m¦/drone/trip * 5 drones = 487m¦/trip
So worst case, if your drones came back at the same time as your lasers cycled, you'd get 6370m¦ into your 8000m¦ cargo hold. Director/Orca/Rorqual bonuses do not affect this number at all, only how often it occurs.
EDIT: Bleh.. Stealth OP edits are bad...
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DevilsCry
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Posted - 2008.12.03 11:05:00 -
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You guys do realize that with full cargo you can hold like 17k+m3 and you can also overload your strips mid cycle and u get ur full ammount based on how long its run for plus you save the extra time. Sometimes when im mining a roid lets say its 1/2 my yeild i end it halfway into the cycle... right now im using a retriever but ill have my hulk fully rigged in about 17 days.
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Thorson Wiles
Minmatar
M3 Co-Op
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Posted - 2008.12.03 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: DevilsCry
You guys do realize ...
Most of these posts are moot now since they were based upon the original premise of the OP. (Paraphrased: A max yeald Hulk overflows it's base cargo, so the base cargo needs buffed) The OP has been removing the content of his posts once he saw that he was incorrect.
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DevilsCry
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Posted - 2008.12.04 04:55:00 -
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eh my bad lol
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