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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.10 22:46:00 -
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Machariel. Especially against missile ships. |

Letifer Deus
A Astroid Belt Lotto Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.11.10 22:56:00 -
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Edited by: Letifer Deus on 10/11/2008 23:04:56
Originally by: Nikolae Varius WTB badon fit with 200k ehp and 1k dps and isn't EFT warrior fit.
8x MP2 AN MF
AB heavy booster web 20km
2x 1600 tung 2x HS2 2x EANM2 DCU2
3x trimark
4x hammer 2 1x Ogre 2
1026 DPS, 207K EHP with exactly what I fly on TQ, which is LG slaves and 5% all turrets dmg.
If you want MWD swap the DCU2 for internal force field. |

kellankylemore
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Posted - 2008.11.12 05:55:00 -
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What do the following stand for?
2x HS2 2x EANM2
Thanks
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Shardrael
Caldari Titan Industries Technology Team Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:37:00 -
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amarr is looking pretty damn sweet right now. --------------------
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Jainia Soltella
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Posted - 2008.11.12 06:47:00 -
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Originally by: kellankylemore
What do the following stand for?
2x HS2 2x EANM2
Thanks
HS2 == Heat Sink 2: Moar Laser Damage EANM 2 == Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 2: Passive Armor resistance mod, 20-25% bonus to all 4 resistances depending on skills.
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Wardeneo
DEADLY RENEGADE ELITE ASSASSIN MERC SQUAD Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.11.14 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dr EVile Asking for a best BS shows you might want to rethink your approach to EvE. There is no best, just best for a specific situation.
i asked what peoples oppinions where and thus asked for real reasons - e.g scorp - ecm - fleets only - dont try n solo.... aslong the lines of that, and i dont need to re-approach eve tyvm ;)
wardeneo |

nakKEDK
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.11.15 00:28:00 -
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depends which role sniping : apoc>mega>rokh? prolly wrong :) solo : dominix,phoon,pest,mega,geddon,abaddon,hyperion? dont know really small gangs : geddon,megathron,phoon,abaddon
no best all got pros and cons (except sniping apoc its teh best! :P) |

Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.11.15 01:19:00 -
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Best if cost is not a factor? Nightmare. 1k dps, 200k EHP, dual heavy neuts, and includes MWD/point/injector. Too bad it looks so weird, or it would be the perfect ship. ----------- Blaster sig removed for now, pending those "changes we've been working on all day". CCP, don't screw this up.
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BiggestT
Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.11.15 04:40:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko Edited by: Cpt Branko on 09/11/2008 22:45:51 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 09/11/2008 22:25:37
Originally by: Zionysus
maybe you should stop posting. Sisi =/= tq, and unless the pilot is ******ed, a golem will bbq a tempest.
You won't *find* a solo Golem. As with all marauders, it's insane to fly one without a Falcon alt, else a Griffin disables you - for good. Same with all other Marauders.
Not quite, even in a scorp, with lev 4 support skills, some at 5, ull still miss a jam every 5-6 cycles..Which hurts..ALOT |

Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.15 04:46:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 15/11/2008 04:47:58
Originally by: BiggestT
Originally by: Cpt Branko Edited by: Cpt Branko on 09/11/2008 22:45:51 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 09/11/2008 22:25:37
Originally by: Zionysus
maybe you should stop posting. Sisi =/= tq, and unless the pilot is ******ed, a golem will bbq a tempest.
You won't *find* a solo Golem. As with all marauders, it's insane to fly one without a Falcon alt, else a Griffin disables you - for good. Same with all other Marauders.
Not quite, even in a scorp, with lev 4 support skills, some at 5, ull still miss a jam every 5-6 cycles..Which hurts..ALOT
After 6 cycles, it should be dead, unless you're soloing with a Scorpion. That said, there is no rule about being in torp range afaik or not fitting buffer to a Scorpion - not like you'll melt in 15s of firing he's got on his disposal at best.
The problem with a 'solo' Marauder is that they're quite trivial to jam.
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Siddy
Minmatar Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.11.15 07:36:00 -
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Best Price/quality ration battleships are
1# Armageddon (armagankkon)
It gets same characteristicks as EHP blaster tron to 20km+ and cost less. Best ship to build the DPS backbone of a gang. Instant Focusfire DPS with lots and lots of EHP and RR utility slot.
Have a gang of these suckers wins any other gang of any other type ships, save for abaddons. (Faclons/scorps/rooks dont count, >__> ) Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |

Yakov Draken
Minmatar Tides Of War
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Posted - 2008.11.15 10:06:00 -
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Question is to broad for me to attempt to answer so I'll give some observations on low sec small gang warfare.
- Free mid slots are more important than before and it seems significantly harder to lock people in time on gates.
- Tempest and Domi got better for BS heavy RR gangs due to higher value now for their utility
- Jury out on Phoon with more combat testing needed - mixed results so far from Torps. It depends somewhat on wether we need to fit ECCM as if we don't we can get enough tackle and TP's to run a Phoon in the gang comfortably.
Aside: Does ECCM really work? We fit it heaps but having sat down and done some tests it didn't make a meaningful difference. We didn't do enough tests to make conclusive statements - we will be doing more. Can someone confirm the ECM maths pls as I'm starting to doubt the equation I remember - the Falcon just keeps getting jams!
My favorite small gang low sec RR BS's right now - Armageddon (damage plus range), Domi (utility max), Mega (damage), Scorpion (jamming), Tempest (utility). Not sure on order plus Abaddon for a bait BS and the Typhoon for all around pwn if it can live up to its EFT numbers in combat situations.
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lebrata
Hedion University
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Posted - 2008.11.15 10:18:00 -
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In 1 v 1 i love my NOS domi as a most other BS need to be fitted with a SB to beat me and most ships do not fit them as standard.
Blaster ships suck now due to range issues so a RR gang made of amaar ships instead of gallente would be considerably better.
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Northern Fall
Minmatar Guild Navy
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Posted - 2008.11.15 10:21:00 -
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Edited by: Northern Fall on 15/11/2008 10:24:33 The tempest is great, you just need uber skills to make it work
theres also one ship everyone seems to be forgetting..
the maelstrom, one of the best tanks around
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RedSplat
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2008.11.15 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Northern Fall
the maelstrom, one of the best tanks around

Granted it tanks nicely, but you are rather vulnerable to neuts and you will die faster than a buffer tanked BS above a certain gangsize wont you? |

Temper Six
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Posted - 2008.11.15 13:36:00 -
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off-topic: Somebody please tell me what "EHP" is?
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ebonyivory
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Posted - 2008.11.15 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Temper Six off-topic: Somebody please tell me what "EHP" is?
electronic hyper-protein
it basically boosts your armor by 0.1 points every second times the numbers above
so 200k ehp boosts youre armor by 20k every second
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.11.15 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Temper Six off-topic: Somebody please tell me what "EHP" is?
EHP = effective hit points = base HP * resists. It's the total raw damage required to remove all of your HP, not including any regeneration you may have. ----------- Blaster sig removed for now, pending those "changes we've been working on all day". CCP, don't screw this up.
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.15 20:43:00 -
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The fleet tempest is cheap and should be fun to fly now (extra midslots=tracking disruptors). No dps to write home about but hey.
Overall, I still think the apoc is the best ship ingame  Boink! |

nakKEDK
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.11.16 09:29:00 -
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Edited by: nakKEDK on 16/11/2008 09:29:05
Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: Frankinator
Originally by: Bellum Eternus Kronos/Paladin, with plenty of Falcons for anti-Falcon work.
Negative, Golem beats both of them.
LOL, then my Tempest beat the Golem. I just killed a Golem in my Tempest on sisi right before the reboot on sisi now .
Dual Heavy Neut and ECM 4tw i'll guess .
yeh and i killed a golem in a neut apoc -.- EDIT: on sisi
k
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Hellspawn666
Minmatar Master Miners
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Posted - 2008.11.16 09:44:00 -
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Originally by: Holy Lowlander siriously how can you pick a best BS.
*waves* For the guys that didn't know it yet, SOLO PVP DIED A LOOOONG TIME AGO, and this nano nerf might be the final nail in the coffin *waves* (and I doubt if it ever existed in BS hulls tbh)
So basicly "omg I pwnd a mega in a phoon today on sisi" doesn't mean anything at all .... As the situation just won't happen in tq.
Also when your in a gang a mega will be fine. If you think 1 vs 1 like it won't be against most BS. But its not like every BS in a gang will have a scram+web on it....
So you can still hapilly mwd towards your target while another guy has it webbed allready. So stop whining about the mega tbh. There are ships that get ****ed way harder by this patch....
If you want to whine about a blasterboat .. whine about the deimos .... The only viable use for that thing is fitting it with rails. Wich effectivly takes out all the damage benefits you got.... Especially compared to zealots .....
Solo bs combat exited a fair few years ago when it was fesible for those who knew the tricks to escape from most gank situations, there also wernt gank fleets everywhere. Being able to mwd while loading system so you can instant warp, your enemies not understanding the old scanner, and the 3 minute map update time for pilots in system opposed to an average made it all too easy for a solo BS pilot not to get ganked.
As for the best BS i still dont think the old mega is as bad as people make out, long as your shooting other BS or have a friend to help multiple webs on hacs... Yeh your in a tricky situation if people warp scram/web combo you with a lachesis/rapier but thats no different then when you used to get rapier screwed anyway. Geddons always had trouble fitting wise, difficult cap wise to keep an mwd going and difficult PG wise to fit a cap booster with an mwd. Sure its a great ship if you land on them though. Abaddon is a pretty nice choice but again the cap is a *****, mega survived pretty well against a neut ship but the abaddon requires cap boosters just to run for a few volleys when its not getting neuted.
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nakKEDK
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.11.16 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Hellspawn666
Originally by: Holy Lowlander siriously how can you pick a best BS.
*waves* For the guys that didn't know it yet, SOLO PVP DIED A LOOOONG TIME AGO, and this nano nerf might be the final nail in the coffin *waves* (and I doubt if it ever existed in BS hulls tbh)
So basicly "omg I pwnd a mega in a phoon today on sisi" doesn't mean anything at all .... As the situation just won't happen in tq.
Also when your in a gang a mega will be fine. If you think 1 vs 1 like it won't be against most BS. But its not like every BS in a gang will have a scram+web on it....
So you can still hapilly mwd towards your target while another guy has it webbed allready. So stop whining about the mega tbh. There are ships that get ****ed way harder by this patch....
If you want to whine about a blasterboat .. whine about the deimos .... The only viable use for that thing is fitting it with rails. Wich effectivly takes out all the damage benefits you got.... Especially compared to zealots .....
Solo bs combat exited a fair few years ago when it was fesible for those who knew the tricks to escape from most gank situations, there also wernt gank fleets everywhere. Being able to mwd while loading system so you can instant warp, your enemies not understanding the old scanner, and the 3 minute map update time for pilots in system opposed to an average made it all too easy for a solo BS pilot not to get ganked.
As for the best BS i still dont think the old mega is as bad as people make out, long as your shooting other BS or have a friend to help multiple webs on hacs... Yeh your in a tricky situation if people warp scram/web combo you with a lachesis/rapier but thats no different then when you used to get rapier screwed anyway. Geddons always had trouble fitting wise, difficult cap wise to keep an mwd going and difficult PG wise to fit a cap booster with an mwd. Sure its a great ship if you land on them though. Abaddon is a pretty nice choice but again the cap is a *****, mega survived pretty well against a neut ship but the abaddon requires cap boosters just to run for a few volleys when its not getting neuted.
abaddon should have much problem soloing a megathron, as long as the abaddon is passive.
k
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.11.16 09:57:00 -
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Edited by: techzer0 on 16/11/2008 10:01:33
Originally by: Mag's Edited by: Mag''s on 09/11/2008 15:25:49 Kronos.
Edit: coz itll wtfpwn anyything post patch
Only if you fit a web 
I'm thinking about fitting up a solo-scorp for lulz |
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