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Neth'Rae
Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.10 18:29:00 -
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Edited by: Neth''Rae on 10/11/2008 18:31:35 So I saw this cover from fanfest for the new retail EVE DVD Box. And it reminded me of this hilarious video.
No it's not about the 'Games for Live' header with the windows logo (that is taking up way too much space btw). It's about adding too much text and information on the box and reducing the artistic appeal. At the moment this box looks like a magazine cover and I also think the logo doesn't get the attention it deserves. And oh.. Capital Ships(!?).. I think that will be very missleading for new players that is buying the game and realize it will take them a year or two to just get into one of the ships on the front cover. Someone else on the forums suggested that you can have frigs and destroyers in the background and then cruisers -> battleships and capitals to describe the real progression of the game.
I thought the whole point of having a box was to get a good store presence as advertising and giving fans something like a collectors edition aswell as making up for the ugly original box. Also, it looks like a regular DVD Case and not a Box like the original, which also had cover that could be opened up and show this which was behind the "first page" of the cover.
What I was expecting for a retail box was a good looking cover art, a huge manual, some other goodies like posters or other stuff and a Gamecard to activate the account (so people who already have EVE but want a cool box can buy it and just use the GTC).
Also, another cool idea is too have the box front cover in 3 layers, like pages that you fold up. First is ships in space, next shows fittings and a docked ship, and the last one which is a 3 page fold shows ambulation pictures and art.
I do Sigs, Banners and other Graphics for ISK. |

SunTzuCsu
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.10 18:35:00 -
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lol @ the video.
Oh and I do see your point, sometimes less is more.
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Nerrollus
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.11.10 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Neth'Rae Edited by: Neth''Rae on 10/11/2008 18:31:35 So I saw this cover from fanfest for the new retail EVE DVD Box. And it reminded me of this hilarious video.
No it's not about the 'Games for Live' header with the windows logo (that is taking up way too much space btw). It's about adding too much text and information on the box and reducing the artistic appeal. At the moment this box looks like a magazine cover and I also think the logo doesn't get the attention it deserves. And oh.. Capital Ships(!?).. I think that will be very missleading for new players that is buying the game and realize it will take them a year or two to just get into one of the ships on the front cover. Someone else on the forums suggested that you can have frigs and destroyers in the background and then cruisers -> battleships and capitals to describe the real progression of the game.
I thought the whole point of having a box was to get a good store presence as advertising and giving fans something like a collectors edition aswell as making up for the ugly original box. Also, it looks like a regular DVD Case and not a Box like the original, which also had cover that could be opened up and show this which was behind the "first page" of the cover.
What I was expecting for a retail box was a good looking cover art, a huge manual, some other goodies like posters or other stuff and a Gamecard to activate the account (so people who already have EVE but want a cool box can buy it and just use the GTC).
Also, another cool idea is too have the box front cover in 3 layers, like pages that you fold up. First is ships in space, next shows fittings and a docked ship, and the last one which is a 3 page fold shows ambulation pictures and art.
lol, that video is awesome.
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Saint Lazarus
Spiorad ag fanaiocht
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Posted - 2008.11.10 18:40:00 -
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Tbh I prefer the "ugly" original box to that Microsoft one =\
It really is ****ty looking but at the same time I dont care too much and I assume they're not gonna change the design by now if thats the finalised design so meh -----------------
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Dyaven
Interstellar Mining and Research
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Posted - 2008.11.10 18:45:00 -
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I still say CCP should use this guy's idea.
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Treenara Mazouk
Phoenix Propulsion Labs Lost Sheep Domain
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Posted - 2008.11.10 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Dyaven I still say CCP should use this guy's idea.
The guy does have talent. Then again, I see nothing wrong with enticing players with the possibilities of ships they'll eventually fly. Kinda like a teaser. 
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SemiCharmed
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Posted - 2008.11.10 18:54:00 -
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It does look crap the new boxed version, i said that at fanfest... but they wont change it at all. if they do... get rid of the whole "microsoft crap" and slap on more caldari ships :p
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Gnomes Rock
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Posted - 2008.11.10 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Dyaven I still say CCP should use this guy's idea.
Yeah, looks awesome, except Eve (sadly) doesn't have planets or space backgrounds like the graphics on that cover. |

Neth'Rae
Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.10 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Dyaven I still say CCP should use this guy's idea.
 
I do Sigs, Banners and other Graphics for ISK. |

Nikita Alterana
Gallente The Antikythera Mechanism
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Posted - 2008.11.10 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dyaven I still say CCP should use this guy's idea.
I still agree with you __________________________________________________ I was Amarr before they were the FOTM and I'll be Amarr after it! I'm also training Minmatar Capitals! And I eat Lions! |

Sleepkevert
Amarr Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.10 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Dyaven I still say CCP should use this guy's idea.
This. even if it's only for the fact that it also mentions it isn't a microsoft only product... _
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CCP RyanD
Caldari C C P

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Posted - 2008.11.10 20:23:00 -
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Mockup box is a mockup.
Real box will be designed working closely with Atari team who can provide specific guidance. I have a lot of retail shelf experience too and we'll make sure the box does a great job of selling itself when it's on store shelves. But what you're seeing today is a placeholder.
RyanD
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Qordel
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.11.10 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: CCP RyanD Mockup box is a mockup.
Real box will be designed working closely with Atari team who can provide specific guidance. I have a lot of retail shelf experience too and we'll make sure the box does a great job of selling itself when it's on store shelves. But what you're seeing today is a placeholder.
RyanD
The box needs to have a little light sensor on it and a little greeting-card recording device on it. When it detects someone walking past the box, have a voice say "AUTOPILOT ENGAGED" and "WARPING".
I will buy two copies. Period. I don't care. Both to show my support and have something to display. I'm a fanboy. Eat me.
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sg3s
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.11.10 20:29:00 -
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Guys, manuals for evolving MMORPGS like eve-online or wow for that matter are useless as they get outdated very quickly...
CCP has a solution to this and it's called evelopedia and should be available before the end of the year... It's about time I put something sensible in here, but I couldn't really come up with something so you'l have to do with this. Are you like really bored, or did you not notice this is my sig? |

Orb Lati
Minmatar ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.10 20:33:00 -
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so ..... find a new place holder 
"We worship Strength because it is through strength that all other values are made possible" |

Hitomi Nakatani
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.10 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: CCP RyanD Mockup box is a mockup.
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Dyaven
Interstellar Mining and Research
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Posted - 2008.11.10 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: sg3s Guys, manuals for evolving MMORPGS like eve-online or wow for that matter are useless as they get outdated very quickly...
CCP has a solution to this and it's called evelopedia and should be available before the end of the year...
Uh... wrong topic? 
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sg3s
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.11.10 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Dyaven
Originally by: sg3s Guys, manuals for evolving MMORPGS like eve-online or wow for that matter are useless as they get outdated very quickly...
CCP has a solution to this and it's called evelopedia and should be available before the end of the year...
Uh... wrong topic? 
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Originally by: Neth'Rae What I was expecting for a retail box was a good looking cover art, a huge manual, some other goodies like posters or other stuff and a Gamecard to activate the account (so people who already have EVE but want a cool box can buy it and just use the GTC).
It's about time I put something sensible in here, but I couldn't really come up with something so you'l have to do with this. Are you like really bored, or did you not notice this is my sig? |

Captator
Universal Securities
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Posted - 2008.11.10 21:14:00 -
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I reckon they should offer a competition to the players to potentially design the new box art, got some really talented artists lurking in this game.
Mockup box is fugly guys even for a mockup. |

Xavier Zedicus
Zardoz Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.11.10 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: Gnomes Rock
Originally by: Dyaven I still say CCP should use this guy's idea.
Yeah, looks awesome, except Eve (sadly) doesn't have planets or space backgrounds like the graphics on that cover.
Maybe CCP should |

Execer
Malevolent Intentions Divine Anarchy
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Posted - 2008.11.10 21:17:00 -
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I still have the original Eve box and manual from its release in 2003. I wonder how many players still have that. Maybe I could sell it for ISK!?! |

Poreuomai
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.11.10 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Gnomes Rock
Originally by: Dyaven I still say CCP should use this guy's idea.
Yeah, looks awesome, except Eve (sadly) doesn't have planets or space backgrounds like the graphics on that cover.
They should adapt the product to match the packaging.  |

Zaphod Jones
Minmatar Quam Singulari Warp to Desktop
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Posted - 2008.11.10 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: CCP RyanD ... I have a lot of retail shelf experience too ...
RyanD
Tesco shelf stacker ?
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Shard Merchant
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.10 21:31:00 -
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It says on the box:
60 Day Game Time Extra Standing Points New Strategy Guide 2X Rewards VIP Pass
Somebody, somewhere.. screwed up real bad when they mistook this game for WoW.
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Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence
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Posted - 2008.11.10 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Neth'Rae What I was expecting for a retail box was a good looking cover art, a huge manual, some other goodies like posters or other stuff and a Gamecard to activate the account (so people who already have EVE but want a cool box can buy it and just use the GTC).
This is just a really, really good idea. I hope the marketing guys do this. :)
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Zaknussem
Caldari The Ironbreakers
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Posted - 2008.11.10 21:33:00 -
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It's right what has been said, including a paper manual with a MMO game is a waste of time and resources.
Another approach to sweetening the deal would be to include "exclusive" content on the DVD, like artwork (wallpaper-sized images), a couple of music tracks, the various EvE trailers, etc. |

Seth Ruin
Minmatar Ominous Corp Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.11.10 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Shard Merchant It says on the box:
60 Day Game Time Extra Standing Points New Strategy Guide 2X Rewards VIP Pass
Somebody, somewhere.. screwed up real bad when they mistook this game for WoW.
Extra standing points? WTH is that? VIP pass? To what?
... Anyway, mockup box is confusing.
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Suboran
Gallente Victory Not Vengeance Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.11.10 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Dyaven I still say CCP should use this guy's idea.
this would be awesome
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Terminal Insanity
Minmatar Echo Squad
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Posted - 2008.11.10 21:43:00 -
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if the final box doesnt look like that, and is really well crafted package, i'll definatly buy it. When i started playing eve i was disapointed that i couldnt find a box in a retail store for it to go along with all my other games
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Zhanra
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Posted - 2008.11.10 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Dyaven I still say CCP should use this guy's idea.
That is *very* nice. 
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