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Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
431
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Posted - 2012.04.05 23:11:00 -
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It's part of feeling responsible I guess. You don't want your corporation or alliance get into heat of your silly posting skills because you felt like to ridicule somebody or just spam the forums.
Still, you like to point out your opinion, without risking the above.
Hence you use alts.
Who needs television when you have EVE? EVE drama, best drama. |
Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
152
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Posted - 2012.04.05 23:11:00 -
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Whats the line in Boondock Saints?
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
something like that? Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you. |
Lt Angus
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
63
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Posted - 2012.04.05 23:15:00 -
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NPC is the only way to be |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
129
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Posted - 2012.04.05 23:20:00 -
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It isn't an issue, it's an excuse to stay out of null sec. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
169
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Posted - 2012.04.05 23:32:00 -
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forum alts are for people who like to say dumb crap on the forums without any way of backing it up with actual experience
"okay thanks for your opinion on supercarriers, it's worthless though because I'm just assuming that you're a worthless miner" Don't mind me, I'm just adding content to threads that otherwise have none. |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
129
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Posted - 2012.04.05 23:34:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:forum alts are for people who like to say dumb crap on the forums without any way of backing it up with actual experience
"okay thanks for your opinion on supercarriers, it's worthless though because I'm just assuming that you're a worthless miner"
Wrong and you knows it. Goons are unique. Most alliances will emorage if thier members post here with thier mains. Most alliances see the forums as free intell to CCP, the enemy.
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
169
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Posted - 2012.04.05 23:35:00 -
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Ocih wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:forum alts are for people who like to say dumb crap on the forums without any way of backing it up with actual experience
"okay thanks for your opinion on supercarriers, it's worthless though because I'm just assuming that you're a worthless miner" Wrong and you knows it. Goons are unique. Most alliances will emorage if thier members post here with thier mains. Most alliances see the forums as free intell to CCP, the enemy.
if you're in an alliance that prohibits you from posting on eve-o you should jump ship Don't mind me, I'm just adding content to threads that otherwise have none. |
Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.04.05 23:36:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:if you're in an alliance that prohibits you from posting on eve-o you should jump ship
can I join yours? |
Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
80
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Posted - 2012.04.05 23:37:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:forum alts are for people who like to say dumb crap on the forums without any way of backing it up with actual experience
"okay thanks for your opinion on supercarriers, it's worthless though because I'm just assuming that you're a worthless miner"
It's quite a trip to be one of thousands and talk of experience like you yourself are the one amongst them with the divine right of opinion. One amongst the maelstroms and his is the best. -á |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1378
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Posted - 2012.04.06 00:30:00 -
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Esan Vartesa wrote:Hi. I'm Esan Vartesa. Yes, that is a pseudonym that I use in Eve Online.
But in Eve, I am Esan Vartesa. In Eve, you can chase Esan down, gank him, wardec him, grief him, etc.
So while Esan protects the real person controlling him, all value and accomplishments in Eve are entirely invested in him. As such, there is risk in being a total ******.
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Hi, I'm NPC-corp alt 274408. Yes, that is a pseudonym of a pseudonym.
In Eve, I'm not actually NPC-corp alt 274408. That character has never actually undocked, so you can't chase him down, gank him, wardec him, grief him, etc.
So while I protect some other character that in turn protects the real person controlling him, all investments and accomplishments in Eve are in no way invested in NPC-corp alt 274408. As such, there is no risk in being a total ******.
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This is Eve. No risk without reward.
Well put. And it would make sense if such replies as the one in the OP was not wrote to nearly anything, even an question about mechanics. Or some ideas.. Even tho those ideas are bad, and comes from ignorance about EVE mechanics etc. I found it better to try to enlighten the person about his "possibly" wrong approach rather than calling for "post with your main" Altho i alone dont have any significant knowledge about anything EVE related. Or i know that there are many people with far superior knowledge of many things in game.
And I am actually Jaroslav Unwanted in game. |
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Richard Aiel
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
131
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Posted - 2012.04.06 00:40:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:forum alts are for people who like to say dumb crap on the forums without any way of backing it up with actual experience
"okay thanks for your opinion on supercarriers, it's worthless though because I'm just assuming that you're a worthless miner"
Ah so what you guys need is mittens voice coming out of someone else's ass when he does drunken appearances
Lanasak wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:if you're in an alliance that prohibits you from posting on eve-o you should jump ship can I join yours?
Yeah $15 and joining Something Awful (if they dont just scam you into oblivion) Ravan Hekki: "Well done CCP. Banned tears the best sort of tears." especially Goon tears
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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
505
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Posted - 2012.04.06 00:50:00 -
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Richard Aiel wrote:Yeah $15 and joining Something Awful (if they dont just scam you into oblivion) To be fair from what I've seen goons are quite welcoming of new members, as long as you aren't an idiot. If you know any of them, can get a recommendation or are already a member of SA they're a great alliance to join.
Just because some idiots get scammed every now and then doesn't mean everyone will get scammed if they apply through the correct channels. And I can't emphasize this bit enough, not being a total idiot really helps.
--Will Support Your Terrible Forum Thread For ISK-- |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1417
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Posted - 2012.04.06 06:15:00 -
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Markus Reese wrote:The other part is most of the time the sockpuppets are posting contentious or things against gameplay. Somebody using multiple sockpuppets can use it to make a situation more volatile. This
Also they use those multiple alts (sockpuppet's) to help give credence to their statements basically by overpowering the discussion, flooding it with multiple comments from those alts all posting in agreement while also attacking the opponent thus giving the illusion that their statements are factual when it may or may not even be factual. Basically it's sorta like a yelling match with the intention to drown out the other player and control the discussion in some demented idea to appear superior, just another form of cyber-bully.
Markus Reese wrote:Is why I post as my main. When I say something in forums, people know where I am coming from, and also should people want to debate, I can say take it to me in game. Unfortunately you don't even have to say 'Take it to me in game' because they'll probably be looking for you anyway. Especially if you had bruised their ego by proving they were talking out their ass. This is another reason why they use the forum alts, they won't have to worry about repercussions resulting from their actions. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
659
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Posted - 2012.04.06 06:25:00 -
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if you post with an NPC forum alt it means you're scared of consequences in a video game which makes you both stupid and a coward and thus your opinion is immediately discredited hth |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
74
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Posted - 2012.04.06 07:18:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:forum alts are for people who like to say dumb crap on the forums without any way of backing it up with actual experience
"okay thanks for your opinion on supercarriers, it's worthless though because I'm just assuming that you're a worthless miner"
Perhaps it would be better to consider the content of the post, rather than whether or not it is composed and posted by an alt.
You want fries with that? |
Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
525
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Posted - 2012.04.06 07:25:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Simi Kusoni wrote:People seem to be missing the primary purpose of NPC alts, it allows people to make an argument from authority despite not being an authority on any subject.
Example: NPC corp alt #20025 is arguing over null sec mechanics changes, he will inevitably claim to have been playing since 1984 and have over 9000 confirmed kills. Two sentences later he will demonstrate that he does not understand how bubbles work.
This is, sadly, not a rare occurrence. Calling for NPC corp alts to reveal their main in cases like these is not done to allow us the opportunity for in game reprisals, which quite simply are too much effort, it is done to get the idiots to shut the hell up and stop bad poasting. Granted that may happen once in a while but usually the sole purpose of wanting to know the main character is so they can exact some type of revenge, thus thinking they have won some great battle. After their revenge is completed, they'll usually post the killmail here in the forums in a vain attempt to cause humiliation. Those actions are intended to berate, demean and ultimately silence that player.
So, you're hiding, behind a computer, on the internet and you lack the testicular fortitude to defend your stance on a subject because someone may disagree with your opinion? You're already behind a fake self, on the internet. Of the hundreds of thousands of people on the internet, you're afraid that someone will take your bad posting and come after you, in a video game.
You don't see anything really wrong with this, like, in real life?
There's a yo-dog meme in here somewhere.
It's not rocket surgery. |
Orator de Umbras
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
15
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Posted - 2012.04.06 07:26:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:forum alts are for people who like to say dumb crap on the forums without any way of backing it up with actual experience
Yet, I've seen many "mains" posting dumb crap, claiming they have experience.
I knew a few super-capital pilots, for example, that would preach how you are "supposed" to play Eve, but were caught, several times, ratting in supers.
No comment on whether said pilots are still in or affiliated with your alliance.
^^ Posts like this are also a good reason to use alts. LOL |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
215
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Posted - 2012.04.06 07:32:00 -
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I have no ehonor and hence post on my alt. |
Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
238
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Posted - 2012.04.06 07:33:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:I have no ehonor and hence post on my alt.
If you had any game it wouldn't matter about your honor. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
215
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Posted - 2012.04.06 07:35:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:I have no ehonor and hence post on my alt. If you had any game it wouldn't matter about your honor. Touch+¬. |
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Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
289
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Posted - 2012.04.06 12:13:00 -
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MeestaPenni wrote:Lifted from a different thread... Quote:I'm guessing that's nowhere near as pathetic as a coward NPC alt ****-poasting this rubbish. An Internet game where nearly everyone is using some kind of pseudonym, and this makes a difference how?
Hey, you lifted my quote. Nice one! |
Spy 21
Lonetrek Exploration and Salvage
22
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Posted - 2012.04.06 12:35:00 -
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Doc Severide wrote:Zagdul wrote:I don't have a problem.
I think it's funny that people care THAT much about their internet, fake, pseudo self that they hide behind a second fake self to protect it.
It's kind of sad that many people who play EVE care that much about a video game that they are afraid to share their own opinion from their main fake self. This is another completely short sighted view bording on complete stupidity. Didn't the recent event of mitanni teach people anything?
People don't want to post with their main because some drunken, big mouth, sociopath will feel it is their mission in life to track someone down in game and grief them continually simply because they were offended *sniff* with a forum posting. Or even to threaten them in real life how they are going to "find you" as "we have our ways"...
There is simply too many fuctards in game, that is all...
+1 for the use of the word 'fuctards' The proper use of dual monitors with the eve client. http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/2821/img0275jr.jpg |
Miss Whippy
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
181
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Posted - 2012.04.06 13:04:00 -
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Anyone who wants to know who my main is. Please send me your Name and Home Address, and I'll be happy to send it to you. UI Iteration isn't enough, we need to start from scratch |
Jon Taggart
State War Academy Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.04.06 13:30:00 -
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I get called an alt even though I'm not an alt!
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Sevena Black
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.04.06 13:42:00 -
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I'm an alt. Since I undock this toon, this is also a main.
Truly useless whining imho. Read the message and respond to it. If you're interested in political crap, contact alliance/corp diplomats.
And yes, there's a lot of pointless threads and posts in this forum. This could very well be one of them. I'll leave it up to the individual reader whether that applies to this post or this thread as well.
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Cosmic Fart
Hedion University Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2012.04.06 14:02:00 -
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Posting here to confirm this is my alt for posting.
I think the main reason why people like myself post with an alt is so I can keep playing a game I enjoy without a whole alliance trying to make my life in space a living hell when I say something that makes sense on the forums that someone might not like.
Best example for this argument would be recent events.
Oh... and I just love the argument: Post with your main or nothing you say is important. <-- I always fall for that line and end up posting with my main..... NOT!
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Khergit Deserters
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.04.09 01:58:00 -
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Hi, I'm Khergit, and I'm an anonymous alt ('AA').
You could look at it as meta-gaming. In an ideal MMO society, everything would be home-grown within the game and everybody would have an accountable persona. Like, to build a mighty corp, you'd have to be a viking chieftain building a following of house karls based only on their trust in you to provide rings and booty. But no, we have Goons, Dreddit, Pandemic, etc. blobbing from outside the game with ready-made hordes. Meta-gaming. And we have people able to spend real dollars on PLEX and GMT to instantly put 100s of millions of isk in their wallets. Not a perfectly fair and accountable system by any means. So if people want to meta-game and use an anonymous posting alt, it's as fair as anything else. Part of reality, part of the game. |
Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
161
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Posted - 2012.04.09 02:03:00 -
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Spy 21 wrote:Doc Severide wrote:Zagdul wrote:I don't have a problem.
I think it's funny that people care THAT much about their internet, fake, pseudo self that they hide behind a second fake self to protect it.
It's kind of sad that many people who play EVE care that much about a video game that they are afraid to share their own opinion from their main fake self. This is another completely short sighted view bording on complete stupidity. Didn't the recent event of mitanni teach people anything?
People don't want to post with their main because some drunken, big mouth, sociopath will feel it is their mission in life to track someone down in game and grief them continually simply because they were offended *sniff* with a forum posting. Or even to threaten them in real life how they are going to "find you" as "we have our ways"...
There is simply too many fuctards in game, that is all... +1 for the use of the word 'fuctards'
+1 for the whole thing
Jon Taggart wrote:I get called an alt even though I'm not an alt!
my main gets that all the time, even with the six year employment history Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you. |
Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
431
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Posted - 2012.04.09 02:08:00 -
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this is actually my main i guess. Have yet to find a normal person or persons to play eve with so i play solo. Have an alt in a corp but the people there are crazy, mean, elite and bitter. I have more space likes than you.-á |
Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
161
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Posted - 2012.04.09 02:12:00 -
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Dbars Grinding wrote:Have an alt in a corp but the people there are crazy, mean, elite and bitter.
ah, EVE players
Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you. |
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