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MeestaPenni
Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:00:00 -
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Lifted from a different thread...
Quote:I'm guessing that's nowhere near as pathetic as a coward NPC alt ****-poasting this rubbish.
An Internet game where nearly everyone is using some kind of pseudonym, and this makes a difference how? Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? |

kiki mo
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
22
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:01:00 -
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New Eden is a better place because this thread is now an exploit of my time. |

Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
1460
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:03:00 -
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Because people hide behind alts, so their main don't get ridiculed or punished or whatever.
Imagine that ... being anonymous on the internet, but still hiding ... Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
706
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:04:00 -
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MeestaPenni wrote:Lifted from a different thread...
Put it back! It wasn't your thread to start with. Who said you could start a new thread with it?
Here's your sign... |

Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
200
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:04:00 -
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Ever heard the phrase "You can talk the talk, but can you walk the walk"? |

Kisumii
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:04:00 -
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I'm actually not a troll alt... I left the game for so long I got kicked and havnt bothered to find a new corp yet! |

Ephemaera Havisam
New Eden Relief Fund
1
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:05:00 -
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I thought only idiots forum posted on their mains?
Er [...] |

Basileus Volkan
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
114
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:06:00 -
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_(Internet)
This forum. This goddamn forum. (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+ |

Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
521
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:08:00 -
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I don't have a problem.
I think it's funny that people care THAT much about their internet, fake, pseudo self that they hide behind a second fake self to protect it.
It's kind of sad that many people who play EVE care that much about a video game that they are afraid to share their own opinion from their main fake self.
It's not rocket surgery. |

Ephemaera Havisam
New Eden Relief Fund
1
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:09:00 -
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I need more meatpuppets. |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
3
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:09:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote: Imagine that ... being anonymous on the internet, but still hiding ...
Meta-1 Anonymous.
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0August0
Gooch Unlimited
22
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:13:00 -
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Anonymously calling someone a coward in an internet game? Sounds like someone needs to get out of the Moms basement and experience a little bit of real life for awhile. |

Amity Lane
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
218
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:16:00 -
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Where it gets really interesting is when you're actually just a new(er) player, but people automatically assume you're a sock puppet poster simply because you know what you're talking about. I guess the only "legitimate posters" are long-time players entrenched in well-known corps who make fools of themselves by posting garbage.
Really, it's just ad hominem fallacy. "I can't win this argument through logical debate, therefore I'll just attack the person I'm debating."
I just try to ignore it. I suggest you do the same. |

Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
207
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:16:00 -
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Hi. I'm Esan Vartesa. Yes, that is a pseudonym that I use in Eve Online.
But in Eve, I am Esan Vartesa. In Eve, you can chase Esan down, gank him, wardec him, grief him, etc.
So while Esan protects the real person controlling him, all value and accomplishments in Eve are entirely invested in him. As such, there is risk in being a total ******.
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Hi, I'm NPC-corp alt 274408. Yes, that is a pseudonym of a pseudonym.
In Eve, I'm not actually NPC-corp alt 274408. That character has never actually undocked, so you can't chase him down, gank him, wardec him, grief him, etc.
So while I protect some other character that in turn protects the real person controlling him, all investments and accomplishments in Eve are in no way invested in NPC-corp alt 274408. As such, there is no risk in being a total ******.
************************************************************
This is Eve. No risk without reward.
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Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
63
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:18:00 -
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Alt posting is fine
But real men Don't Do It |

Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
521
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:19:00 -
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Esan Vartesa wrote:Hi. I'm Esan Vartesa. Yes, that is a pseudonym that I use in Eve Online.
But in Eve, I am Esan Vartesa. In Eve, you can chase Esan down, gank him, wardec him, grief him, etc.
So while Esan protects the real person controlling him, all value and accomplishments in Eve are entirely invested in him. As such, there is risk in being a total ******.
************************************************************
Hi, I'm NPC-corp alt 274408. Yes, that is a pseudonym of a pseudonym.
In Eve, I'm not actually NPC-corp alt 274408. That character has never actually undocked, so you can't chase him down, gank him, wardec him, grief him, etc.
So while I protect some other character that in turn protects the real person controlling him, all investments and accomplishments in Eve are in no way invested in NPC-corp alt 274408. As such, there is no risk in being a total ******.
************************************************************
This is Eve. No risk without reward.
The fact that people hide from this risk is what I find pathetic.
It's not rocket surgery. |

Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
58
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:21:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:I don't have a problem.
I think it's funny that people care THAT much about their internet, fake, pseudo self that they hide behind a second fake self to protect it.
It's kind of sad that many people who play EVE care that much about a video game that they are afraid to share their own opinion from their main fake self. This is another completely short sighted view bording on complete stupidity. Didn't the recent event of mitanni teach people anything?
People don't want to post with their main because some drunken, big mouth, sociopath will feel it is their mission in life to track someone down in game and grief them continually simply because they were offended *sniff* with a forum posting. Or even to threaten them in real life how they are going to "find you" as "we have our ways"...
There is simply too many fuctards in game, that is all... |

Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
207
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:22:00 -
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But have no fear! Very soon 10,558 NPC-corp alts that were created in the last 60 days under the conveniently-timed Power of 2 promotion will expire, and the forums will be a better place.
See what I did there? |

Richard Aiel
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
122
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:25:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Because people hide behind alts, so their main don't get ridiculed or punished or whatever.
Imagine that ... being anonymous on the internet, but still hiding ...
or so the ppl on the forums cant rebuke the argument and take in into game, punishing the character/corp/alliance for what he said out of game
(kinda sounds familiar really)
Ravan Hekki: "Well done CCP. Banned tears the best sort of tears." especially Goon tears
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Large Collidable Object
morons.
1236
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:28:00 -
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Most alliances have some standards. In order to uphold them, most discourage their members posting in this cesspit on their mains. It's kind of like local smack.
I've seen plenty of people getting kicked and kicked some myself for shitposting on their mains because it reflects badly on the entire alliance. morons- sting like a butterfly and-ápost like a bee. |

Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
200
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:32:00 -
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Richard Aiel wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Because people hide behind alts, so their main don't get ridiculed or punished or whatever.
Imagine that ... being anonymous on the internet, but still hiding ... or so the ppl on the forums cant rebuke the argument and take in into game, punishing the character/corp/alliance for what he said out of game (kinda sounds familiar really)
In other words a player can shoot their mouth off and not have to face the consequences of their actions. Case in point: The quote in the OP was directed at an alt who is calling out pvp'rs and calling them losers, and yet he hides behind anonymity while doing so. Do you see the irony in such an action? |

Vetorept Fera
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
18
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:40:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Because people hide behind alts, so their main don't get ridiculed or punished or whatever.
Imagine that ... being anonymous on the internet, but still hiding ...
Ridicule and punishment?
Cyber-bullying?? In pace requiescat |

Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
200
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:41:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:Most alliances have some standards. In order to uphold them, most discourage their members posting in this cesspit on their mains. It's kind of like local smack.
I've seen plenty of people getting kicked and kicked some myself for shitposting on their mains because it reflects badly on the entire alliance.
This I can agree with. In fact IEEE has one standing order, "If you do or say something, be prepared to back it up". We at the IEEE also try to uphold this basic rule in life with other corps which has led to some interesting blogs such as the Joe Pheonix saga. As it turns out the poor man just didn't know when to stop.
But yes, a good alliance should watch what their members are saying on the forums. And believe it or not, but good comments on occasion can be rewarding. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
523
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:49:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:Most alliances have some standards. In order to uphold them, most discourage their members posting in this cesspit on their mains. It's kind of like local smack.
I've seen plenty of people getting kicked and kicked some myself for shitposting on their mains because it reflects badly on the entire alliance. ...yah. You wouldn't want anyone to think you were morons. 
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1415
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:51:00 -
[25] - Quote
Micheal Dietrich wrote:Ever heard the phrase "You can talk the talk, but can you walk the walk"?
How about this phrase:
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. |

Large Collidable Object
morons.
1237
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Posted - 2012.04.05 16:55:00 -
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Gogela wrote:Large Collidable Object wrote:Most alliances have some standards. In order to uphold them, most discourage their members posting in this cesspit on their mains. It's kind of like local smack.
I've seen plenty of people getting kicked and kicked some myself for shitposting on their mains because it reflects badly on the entire alliance. ...yah. You wouldn't want anyone to think you were morons. 
Well - this is my posting main with its own posting corp.
LCO total SP: 64k, morons. member count: 1. morons- sting like a butterfly and-ápost like a bee. |

Radelix Cisko
The Adjustment Team
61
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Posted - 2012.04.05 17:32:00 -
[27] - Quote
This is my main and I will post willy nilly with him. He is my internet spaceship persona except for my corpies that know me in RL. |

Sugar Von MurdererTits
Shameless Suicidal Space Barbies
37
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Posted - 2012.04.05 17:36:00 -
[28] - Quote
This is my main alt. |

Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.04.05 17:38:00 -
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When someone says "POST ON YOUR MAIN" they are demonstrating exactly why people don't post on their mains.
Just today in some other thread I was arguing, and this butthurt flaming homo said "Tell me who your main is so I can pay you a visit."
I mean really. They're either 1) desperate for an excuse to dismiss you because you totally PWNT!!!! them and made them look stupid, or 2) they're RALE MAD and want to get revenge by blowing up your pod or something.
Basically: When they talk about main-posting, you've won, and they're indirectly admitting it. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1162
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Posted - 2012.04.05 17:47:00 -
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Damn those forum alts to hell!
What is the world coming to?
Mr Epeen  Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |

Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Dark Matter Coalition
993
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Posted - 2012.04.05 17:57:00 -
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I am a main, that is all.
edit: damnit, I got this dirty chill like i had said "I am a mage".....eww The Drake is a Lie |

Josefius
13th Tribe of Kobol Expeditionary
60
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Posted - 2012.04.05 18:01:00 -
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MeestaPenni wrote:Lifted from a different thread... Quote:I'm guessing that's nowhere near as pathetic as a coward NPC alt ****-poasting this rubbish. An Internet game where nearly everyone is using some kind of pseudonym, and this makes a difference how?
EVE is a sandbox, what you do has repercussions, you can't hide with name changes like in other MMOs. So, if you post on an anonymous alt, you're considered a coward. You have enemies? Good, that means you stood up for something, sometime in your life.
-Winston Churchill |

Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
522
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Posted - 2012.04.05 18:38:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:Most alliances have some standards. In order to uphold them, most discourage their members posting in this cesspit on their mains. It's kind of like local smack.
I've seen plenty of people getting kicked and kicked some myself for shitposting on their mains because it reflects badly on the entire alliance.
Standards. Heh.
It's not rocket surgery. |

Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
377
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Posted - 2012.04.05 18:50:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:Richard Aiel wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Because people hide behind alts, so their main don't get ridiculed or punished or whatever.
Imagine that ... being anonymous on the internet, but still hiding ... or so the ppl on the forums cant rebuke the argument and take in into game, punishing the character/corp/alliance for what he said out of game (kinda sounds familiar really) In other words a player can shoot their mouth off and not have to face the consequences of their actions. Case in point: The quote in the OP was directed at an alt who is calling out pvp'rs and calling them losers, and yet he hides behind anonymity while doing so. Do you see the irony in such an action?
Micheal Dietrich:
This I can agree with. In fact IEEE has one standing order, "If you do or say something, be prepared to back it up". (too many quotes)
so you agree Mittani should be banned then? Great https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=255722#post255722
My stance on WiS |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
152
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Posted - 2012.04.05 18:55:00 -
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Josefius wrote:MeestaPenni wrote:Lifted from a different thread... Quote:I'm guessing that's nowhere near as pathetic as a coward NPC alt ****-poasting this rubbish. An Internet game where nearly everyone is using some kind of pseudonym, and this makes a difference how? EVE is a sandbox, what you do has repercussions, you can't hide with name changes like in other MMOs. So, if you post on an anonymous alt, you're considered a coward.
Right cause they cant go after you, or your corp or alliance and kill you for saying out of game things. So you are a coward
Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you. |

Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
200
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Posted - 2012.04.05 18:56:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote: so you agree Mittani should be banned then? Great
I remain neutral to the Mittani case, leaning heavily towards the do not care side of the scale. |

Orator de Umbras
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2012.04.05 19:00:00 -
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*forum alt reporting in*
I used to not hide behind a forum alt, but then I watched a friend get burned by his alliance because they didn't like what he said on the forums. (It was an honest opinion, in my honest opinion.)
I also don't like to draw anymore attention to my main than I have to.
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Muestereate
Two Geezers in Space
43
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Posted - 2012.04.05 19:00:00 -
[38] - Quote
This is my care bear |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
489
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Posted - 2012.04.05 19:02:00 -
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People seem to be missing the primary purpose of NPC alts, it allows people to make an argument from authority despite not being an authority on any subject.
Example: NPC corp alt #20025 is arguing over null sec mechanics changes, he will inevitably claim to have been playing since 1984 and have over 9000 confirmed kills. Two sentences later he will demonstrate that he does not understand how bubbles work.
This is, sadly, not a rare occurrence. Calling for NPC corp alts to reveal their main in cases like these is not done to allow us the opportunity for in game reprisals, which quite simply are too much effort, it is done to get the idiots to shut the hell up and stop bad poasting.
--Will Support Your Terrible Forum Thread For ISK-- |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1416
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Posted - 2012.04.05 19:50:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:People seem to be missing the primary purpose of NPC alts, it allows people to make an argument from authority despite not being an authority on any subject.
Example: NPC corp alt #20025 is arguing over null sec mechanics changes, he will inevitably claim to have been playing since 1984 and have over 9000 confirmed kills. Two sentences later he will demonstrate that he does not understand how bubbles work.
This is, sadly, not a rare occurrence. Calling for NPC corp alts to reveal their main in cases like these is not done to allow us the opportunity for in game reprisals, which quite simply are too much effort, it is done to get the idiots to shut the hell up and stop bad poasting.
Granted that may happen once in a while but usually the sole purpose of wanting to know the main character is so they can exact some type of revenge, thus thinking they have won some great battle. After their revenge is completed, they'll usually post the killmail here in the forums in a vain attempt to cause humiliation. Those actions are intended to berate, demean and ultimately silence that player.
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Rivur'Tam
the united Negative Ten.
24
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Posted - 2012.04.05 19:56:00 -
[41] - Quote
Solstice Project wrote:Because people hide behind alts, so their main don't get ridiculed or punished or whatever.
Imagine that ... being anonymous on the internet, but still hiding ...
true hey i see that spitfire stole ur sig too he is an ebil man Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire
^^ my sig was awesome that naugty spitfire stole it for himself true story
United Recruitment Director. |

Jace Errata
Lawlz Brawlz
139
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Posted - 2012.04.05 20:17:00 -
[42] - Quote
What I find funny is when people discount a poster's opinion because they're an "0.0 mission alt". Surely then, the 0.0 player they're a mission alt of knows what goes down in 0.0? Being an alt doesn't mean you don't have access to the knowledge and experience of the main- you're still the same person IRL. Stealth OST puns and blatant lies since 2009 Jace Errata on Twitter
One day they woke me up so I could live forever It's such a shame the same will never happen to you |

Vangelios
Hedion University Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2012.04.05 20:19:00 -
[43] - Quote
IMO, it doesn't matter who you are, but what you say.
It may not be usual thing but I make my posts as a dude behind keyboard, not as an eve role-play toon,
...-áEach small candle Lights a corner of the dark... |

Muestereate
Two Geezers in Space
43
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Posted - 2012.04.05 20:31:00 -
[44] - Quote
I like the bad posting argument. Its important to know the source. I'm constantly being fooled by children that are trying to sound like their parents and giving more credibility to people than they deserve. There really should be an account age with our characters so we know at least what kind of game maturity we are trying to communicate with. THe character Bazzar kinda fudges the age thing so you can't count on character age of the main
I enjoy eve once I find some real peers. Then it becomes sharing experiences instead of posturing.
Another bad part about alts is you don't really get to know anybody unless they are consistent with the character they are posting with. I can laugh like crazy if its a bad post from someone I like
I agree with the alliance thing. I really see no reason to disrupt others gameplay by being a spokesperson for your alliance. We have diplomats for that. why make their job harder? |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
10
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Posted - 2012.04.05 20:33:00 -
[45] - Quote
Jace Errata wrote:What I find funny is when people discount a poster's opinion because they're an "0.0 mission alt". Surely then, the 0.0 player they're a mission alt of knows what goes down in 0.0? Being an alt doesn't mean you don't have access to the knowledge and experience of the main- you're still the same person IRL. The problem being, when you double wrap your identity, no one knows if you are indeed a 0.0 mission alt, or just some dweep with no clue.
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Dwarn Gambel
Mercantile and Stuff
0
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Posted - 2012.04.05 20:40:00 -
[46] - Quote
silens vesica wrote:The problem being, when you double wrap your identity, no one knows if you are indeed a 0.0 mission alt, or just some dweep with no clue.
What possible difference does it make if all you're seeing is the content of a forum post?
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
10
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Posted - 2012.04.05 20:42:00 -
[47] - Quote
Dwarn Gambel wrote:silens vesica wrote:The problem being, when you double wrap your identity, no one knows if you are indeed a 0.0 mission alt, or just some dweep with no clue. What possible difference does it make if all you're seeing is the content of a forum post? Eh. Fair enough.
I, myself, like to be able to check the bone fides of posters, so when I see someting that looks outrageous, I can adjust for windage.
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Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2012.04.05 20:49:00 -
[48] - Quote
Esan Vartesa wrote:Hi. I'm Esan Vartesa. Yes, that is a pseudonym that I use in Eve Online.
But in Eve, I am Esan Vartesa. In Eve, you can chase Esan down, gank him, wardec him, grief him, etc.
So while Esan protects the real person controlling him, all value and accomplishments in Eve are entirely invested in him. As such, there is risk in being a total ******.
************************************************************
Hi, I'm NPC-corp alt 274408. Yes, that is a pseudonym of a pseudonym.
In Eve, I'm not actually NPC-corp alt 274408. That character has never actually undocked, so you can't chase him down, gank him, wardec him, grief him, etc.
So while I protect some other character that in turn protects the real person controlling him, all investments and accomplishments in Eve are in no way invested in NPC-corp alt 274408. As such, there is no risk in being a total ******.
************************************************************
This is Eve. No risk without reward.
It's very American to refuse to have a discussion with someone you can't threaten with violence.
You know why they put the First Amendment in the Constitution?
Cause the semi-decent founders knew what kind of a*** the imported English Gentry were and how they never met a speech restriction they didn't like... except when insulting foreigners.
It took the English Gentry a few years.. like 9 or 12, I can't bother to look it up... to get Congress pass extreme anti-speech laws. Gross violations of the Constitution that they were. |

Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
111
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Posted - 2012.04.05 20:52:00 -
[49] - Quote
The other part is most of the time the sockpuppets are posting contentious or things against gameplay. Somebody using multiple sockpuppets can use it to make a situation more volatile. Is why I post as my main. When I say something in forums, people know where I am coming from, and also should people want to debate, I can say take it to me in game. |

Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2012.04.05 20:54:00 -
[50] - Quote
Micheal Dietrich wrote:Richard Aiel wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Because people hide behind alts, so their main don't get ridiculed or punished or whatever.
Imagine that ... being anonymous on the internet, but still hiding ... or so the ppl on the forums cant rebuke the argument and take in into game, punishing the character/corp/alliance for what he said out of game (kinda sounds familiar really) In other words a player can shoot their mouth off and not have to face the consequences of their actions. Case in point: The quote in the OP was directed at an alt who is calling out pvp'rs and calling them losers, and yet he hides behind anonymity while doing so. Do you see the irony in such an action?
So speech is actions now?
And is anyone surprised that discourse in American has declined to feral grunts? How could anything else happen when the penalty for words is being attacked by rabid animals?
This includes fired from job/blacklisted/property destruction, you know, the normal stuff. |

Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
200
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Posted - 2012.04.05 20:58:00 -
[51] - Quote
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:Richard Aiel wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Because people hide behind alts, so their main don't get ridiculed or punished or whatever.
Imagine that ... being anonymous on the internet, but still hiding ... or so the ppl on the forums cant rebuke the argument and take in into game, punishing the character/corp/alliance for what he said out of game (kinda sounds familiar really) In other words a player can shoot their mouth off and not have to face the consequences of their actions. Case in point: The quote in the OP was directed at an alt who is calling out pvp'rs and calling them losers, and yet he hides behind anonymity while doing so. Do you see the irony in such an action? So speech is actions now? And is anyone surprised that discourse in American has declined to feral grunts? How could anything else happen when the penalty for words is being attacked by rabid animals? This includes fired from job/blacklisted/property destruction, you know, the normal stuff.
I try to avoid talking to people who mix things like alt posting and world governments/conspiracies. Please remove me from your calling list.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5931
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Posted - 2012.04.05 21:10:00 -
[52] - Quote
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:So speech is actions now? Yes. WellGǪ kind of. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |

Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2012.04.05 21:12:00 -
[53] - Quote
Micheal Dietrich wrote:Jessie-A Tassik wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:Richard Aiel wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Because people hide behind alts, so their main don't get ridiculed or punished or whatever.
Imagine that ... being anonymous on the internet, but still hiding ... or so the ppl on the forums cant rebuke the argument and take in into game, punishing the character/corp/alliance for what he said out of game (kinda sounds familiar really) In other words a player can shoot their mouth off and not have to face the consequences of their actions. Case in point: The quote in the OP was directed at an alt who is calling out pvp'rs and calling them losers, and yet he hides behind anonymity while doing so. Do you see the irony in such an action? So speech is actions now? And is anyone surprised that discourse in American has declined to feral grunts? How could anything else happen when the penalty for words is being attacked by rabid animals? This includes fired from job/blacklisted/property destruction, you know, the normal stuff. I try to avoid talking to people who mix things like alt posting and world governments/conspiracies. Please remove me from your calling list.
Yes, yes, grunt and grunt and snarl. Followed by proudly marching off the stage since you can't actually threaten me effectively.
And now propaganda is conspiracy. I mean really. You guys are just so annoying. Yes, American government engages in non-stop propaganda by intimidation. Obviously. I mean really.
And looking at the Mittani threads it's rather obvious this trait has been noticed by American Goons and copied.
The Mittani can't shut up about how all hit critics need to line up to be harassed out of the game. Cause if they were REAL MEN they'd let him harass them into silence.
Yeah. I got it. |

Im Super Gay
Hedion University Amarr Empire
40
|
Posted - 2012.04.05 22:34:00 -
[54] - Quote
Your mothers are all fat!
Ha! I've just insulted everyone and no one can hunt me down in game. Trollololoolllololololo |

James Amril-Kesh
JAK Corporation
157
|
Posted - 2012.04.05 22:37:00 -
[55] - Quote
This just in: Not everyone in NPC corps is an alt of that person's main. Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window. |

Jita Alt666
991
|
Posted - 2012.04.05 22:38:00 -
[56] - Quote
Large Collidable Object wrote:Gogela wrote:Large Collidable Object wrote:Most alliances have some standards. In order to uphold them, most discourage their members posting in this cesspit on their mains. It's kind of like local smack.
I've seen plenty of people getting kicked and kicked some myself for shitposting on their mains because it reflects badly on the entire alliance. ...yah. You wouldn't want anyone to think you were morons.  Well - this is my posting main with its own posting corp. LCO total SP: 64k, morons. member count: 1.
And there is the crux. This to is my posting main. Yes he is an NPC Alt, but he is the NPC alt that is always used - for a while he was the highest SP alt that I had active, thus he was my main for a while as well, but he is an NPC alt...
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Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
200
|
Posted - 2012.04.05 22:39:00 -
[57] - Quote
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Yes, yes, grunt and grunt and snarl. Followed by proudly marching off the stage since you can't actually threaten me effectively.
And now propaganda is conspiracy. I mean really. You guys are just so annoying. Yes, American government engages in non-stop propaganda by intimidation. Obviously. I mean really.
"Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."-George II
See? All right out in the open. The fangs are bared and right in your face. "They couldn't keep their threats a secret." Well, no, they don't! Google that phase, thousands of hits. I don't see the "secret" part of this "conspiracy". I see the deliberate intimidation. I see the fang-bared snarl for all the world to see. But I do not really see the "secret".
And looking at the Mittani threads it's rather obvious this trait has been noticed by American Goons and copied.
The Mittani can't shut up about how all hit critics need to line up to be harassed out of the game. Cause if they were REAL MEN they'd let him harass them into silence. Fangs bared. He even went after the Massively guy.
Yeah. I got it.
I said Good day sir. |

Richard Aiel
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
130
|
Posted - 2012.04.05 22:45:00 -
[58] - Quote
Micheal Dietrich wrote:Kengutsi Akira wrote: so you agree Mittani should be banned then? Great
I remain neutral to the Mittani case, leaning heavily towards the do not care side of the scale.
Yet you had enough of an opinion to post here an opinion that shows if you used the same on both cases that he should be banned... after all that would be along the lines of "dont write checks yer ass cant cash"
Ravan Hekki: "Well done CCP. Banned tears the best sort of tears." especially Goon tears
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Devan Reale
Border Zone Combat 1121 Ventures
3
|
Posted - 2012.04.05 22:57:00 -
[59] - Quote
MeestaPenni wrote:Lifted from a different thread... Quote:I'm guessing that's nowhere near as pathetic as a coward NPC alt ****-poasting this rubbish. An Internet game where nearly everyone is using some kind of pseudonym, and this makes a difference how?
Just proof that some people need to climb out from behind the keyboard, leave Mommy's basement, and get a life. But whatever... |

Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
200
|
Posted - 2012.04.05 23:04:00 -
[60] - Quote
Richard Aiel wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:Kengutsi Akira wrote: so you agree Mittani should be banned then? Great
I remain neutral to the Mittani case, leaning heavily towards the do not care side of the scale. Yet you had enough of an opinion to post here an opinion that shows if you used the same on both cases that he should be banned... after all that would be along the lines of "dont write checks yer ass cant cash"
And he was banned. But that was between him and CCP. I wasn't at fanfest, I'm not affiliated with either party in question, and to my knowledge I stayed out of every Mittani thread. But in accordance to my beliefs, he did use his main, hell he used his mains main, and he faced the repercussions of his actions. You can say that I agree with the process of action and reaction, which from what I can tell is still in effect even as we speak. But unless I am hired by any parties I remain neutral. |

Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
431
|
Posted - 2012.04.05 23:11:00 -
[61] - Quote
It's part of feeling responsible I guess. You don't want your corporation or alliance get into heat of your silly posting skills because you felt like to ridicule somebody or just spam the forums.
Still, you like to point out your opinion, without risking the above.
Hence you use alts.
Who needs television when you have EVE? EVE drama, best drama. |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
152
|
Posted - 2012.04.05 23:11:00 -
[62] - Quote
Whats the line in Boondock Saints?
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
something like that? Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you. |

Lt Angus
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
63
|
Posted - 2012.04.05 23:15:00 -
[63] - Quote
NPC is the only way to be |

Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
129
|
Posted - 2012.04.05 23:20:00 -
[64] - Quote
It isn't an issue, it's an excuse to stay out of null sec. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
169
|
Posted - 2012.04.05 23:32:00 -
[65] - Quote
forum alts are for people who like to say dumb crap on the forums without any way of backing it up with actual experience
"okay thanks for your opinion on supercarriers, it's worthless though because I'm just assuming that you're a worthless miner" Don't mind me, I'm just adding content to threads that otherwise have none. |

Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
129
|
Posted - 2012.04.05 23:34:00 -
[66] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:forum alts are for people who like to say dumb crap on the forums without any way of backing it up with actual experience
"okay thanks for your opinion on supercarriers, it's worthless though because I'm just assuming that you're a worthless miner"
Wrong and you knows it. Goons are unique. Most alliances will emorage if thier members post here with thier mains. Most alliances see the forums as free intell to CCP, the enemy.
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
169
|
Posted - 2012.04.05 23:35:00 -
[67] - Quote
Ocih wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:forum alts are for people who like to say dumb crap on the forums without any way of backing it up with actual experience
"okay thanks for your opinion on supercarriers, it's worthless though because I'm just assuming that you're a worthless miner" Wrong and you knows it. Goons are unique. Most alliances will emorage if thier members post here with thier mains. Most alliances see the forums as free intell to CCP, the enemy.
if you're in an alliance that prohibits you from posting on eve-o you should jump ship Don't mind me, I'm just adding content to threads that otherwise have none. |

Lanasak
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
16
|
Posted - 2012.04.05 23:36:00 -
[68] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:if you're in an alliance that prohibits you from posting on eve-o you should jump ship
can I join yours? |

Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
80
|
Posted - 2012.04.05 23:37:00 -
[69] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:forum alts are for people who like to say dumb crap on the forums without any way of backing it up with actual experience
"okay thanks for your opinion on supercarriers, it's worthless though because I'm just assuming that you're a worthless miner"
It's quite a trip to be one of thousands and talk of experience like you yourself are the one amongst them with the divine right of opinion. One amongst the maelstroms and his is the best. -á |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1378
|
Posted - 2012.04.06 00:30:00 -
[70] - Quote
Esan Vartesa wrote:Hi. I'm Esan Vartesa. Yes, that is a pseudonym that I use in Eve Online.
But in Eve, I am Esan Vartesa. In Eve, you can chase Esan down, gank him, wardec him, grief him, etc.
So while Esan protects the real person controlling him, all value and accomplishments in Eve are entirely invested in him. As such, there is risk in being a total ******.
************************************************************
Hi, I'm NPC-corp alt 274408. Yes, that is a pseudonym of a pseudonym.
In Eve, I'm not actually NPC-corp alt 274408. That character has never actually undocked, so you can't chase him down, gank him, wardec him, grief him, etc.
So while I protect some other character that in turn protects the real person controlling him, all investments and accomplishments in Eve are in no way invested in NPC-corp alt 274408. As such, there is no risk in being a total ******.
************************************************************
This is Eve. No risk without reward.
Well put. And it would make sense if such replies as the one in the OP was not wrote to nearly anything, even an question about mechanics. Or some ideas.. Even tho those ideas are bad, and comes from ignorance about EVE mechanics etc. I found it better to try to enlighten the person about his "possibly" wrong approach rather than calling for "post with your main" Altho i alone dont have any significant knowledge about anything EVE related. Or i know that there are many people with far superior knowledge of many things in game.
And I am actually Jaroslav Unwanted in game. |

Richard Aiel
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
131
|
Posted - 2012.04.06 00:40:00 -
[71] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:forum alts are for people who like to say dumb crap on the forums without any way of backing it up with actual experience
"okay thanks for your opinion on supercarriers, it's worthless though because I'm just assuming that you're a worthless miner"
Ah so what you guys need is mittens voice coming out of someone else's ass when he does drunken appearances
Lanasak wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:if you're in an alliance that prohibits you from posting on eve-o you should jump ship can I join yours?
Yeah $15 and joining Something Awful (if they dont just scam you into oblivion) Ravan Hekki: "Well done CCP. Banned tears the best sort of tears." especially Goon tears
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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
505
|
Posted - 2012.04.06 00:50:00 -
[72] - Quote
Richard Aiel wrote:Yeah $15 and joining Something Awful (if they dont just scam you into oblivion) To be fair from what I've seen goons are quite welcoming of new members, as long as you aren't an idiot. If you know any of them, can get a recommendation or are already a member of SA they're a great alliance to join.
Just because some idiots get scammed every now and then doesn't mean everyone will get scammed if they apply through the correct channels. And I can't emphasize this bit enough, not being a total idiot really helps.
--Will Support Your Terrible Forum Thread For ISK-- |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1417
|
Posted - 2012.04.06 06:15:00 -
[73] - Quote
Markus Reese wrote:The other part is most of the time the sockpuppets are posting contentious or things against gameplay. Somebody using multiple sockpuppets can use it to make a situation more volatile. This
Also they use those multiple alts (sockpuppet's) to help give credence to their statements basically by overpowering the discussion, flooding it with multiple comments from those alts all posting in agreement while also attacking the opponent thus giving the illusion that their statements are factual when it may or may not even be factual. Basically it's sorta like a yelling match with the intention to drown out the other player and control the discussion in some demented idea to appear superior, just another form of cyber-bully.
Markus Reese wrote:Is why I post as my main. When I say something in forums, people know where I am coming from, and also should people want to debate, I can say take it to me in game. Unfortunately you don't even have to say 'Take it to me in game' because they'll probably be looking for you anyway. Especially if you had bruised their ego by proving they were talking out their ass. This is another reason why they use the forum alts, they won't have to worry about repercussions resulting from their actions. |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
659
|
Posted - 2012.04.06 06:25:00 -
[74] - Quote
if you post with an NPC forum alt it means you're scared of consequences in a video game which makes you both stupid and a coward and thus your opinion is immediately discredited hth |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
74
|
Posted - 2012.04.06 07:18:00 -
[75] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:forum alts are for people who like to say dumb crap on the forums without any way of backing it up with actual experience
"okay thanks for your opinion on supercarriers, it's worthless though because I'm just assuming that you're a worthless miner"
Perhaps it would be better to consider the content of the post, rather than whether or not it is composed and posted by an alt.
You want fries with that? |

Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
525
|
Posted - 2012.04.06 07:25:00 -
[76] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Simi Kusoni wrote:People seem to be missing the primary purpose of NPC alts, it allows people to make an argument from authority despite not being an authority on any subject.
Example: NPC corp alt #20025 is arguing over null sec mechanics changes, he will inevitably claim to have been playing since 1984 and have over 9000 confirmed kills. Two sentences later he will demonstrate that he does not understand how bubbles work.
This is, sadly, not a rare occurrence. Calling for NPC corp alts to reveal their main in cases like these is not done to allow us the opportunity for in game reprisals, which quite simply are too much effort, it is done to get the idiots to shut the hell up and stop bad poasting. Granted that may happen once in a while but usually the sole purpose of wanting to know the main character is so they can exact some type of revenge, thus thinking they have won some great battle. After their revenge is completed, they'll usually post the killmail here in the forums in a vain attempt to cause humiliation. Those actions are intended to berate, demean and ultimately silence that player.
So, you're hiding, behind a computer, on the internet and you lack the testicular fortitude to defend your stance on a subject because someone may disagree with your opinion? You're already behind a fake self, on the internet. Of the hundreds of thousands of people on the internet, you're afraid that someone will take your bad posting and come after you, in a video game.
You don't see anything really wrong with this, like, in real life?
There's a yo-dog meme in here somewhere.
It's not rocket surgery. |

Orator de Umbras
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
15
|
Posted - 2012.04.06 07:26:00 -
[77] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:forum alts are for people who like to say dumb crap on the forums without any way of backing it up with actual experience
Yet, I've seen many "mains" posting dumb crap, claiming they have experience.
I knew a few super-capital pilots, for example, that would preach how you are "supposed" to play Eve, but were caught, several times, ratting in supers.
No comment on whether said pilots are still in or affiliated with your alliance. 
^^ Posts like this are also a good reason to use alts. LOL |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
215
|
Posted - 2012.04.06 07:32:00 -
[78] - Quote
I have no ehonor and hence post on my alt. |

Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
238
|
Posted - 2012.04.06 07:33:00 -
[79] - Quote
Jake Warbird wrote:I have no ehonor and hence post on my alt.
If you had any game it wouldn't matter about your honor. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
215
|
Posted - 2012.04.06 07:35:00 -
[80] - Quote
Darth Gustav wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:I have no ehonor and hence post on my alt. If you had any game it wouldn't matter about your honor. Touch+¬. |

Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
289
|
Posted - 2012.04.06 12:13:00 -
[81] - Quote
MeestaPenni wrote:Lifted from a different thread... Quote:I'm guessing that's nowhere near as pathetic as a coward NPC alt ****-poasting this rubbish. An Internet game where nearly everyone is using some kind of pseudonym, and this makes a difference how?
Hey, you lifted my quote. Nice one! |

Spy 21
Lonetrek Exploration and Salvage
22
|
Posted - 2012.04.06 12:35:00 -
[82] - Quote
Doc Severide wrote:Zagdul wrote:I don't have a problem.
I think it's funny that people care THAT much about their internet, fake, pseudo self that they hide behind a second fake self to protect it.
It's kind of sad that many people who play EVE care that much about a video game that they are afraid to share their own opinion from their main fake self. This is another completely short sighted view bording on complete stupidity. Didn't the recent event of mitanni teach people anything?
People don't want to post with their main because some drunken, big mouth, sociopath will feel it is their mission in life to track someone down in game and grief them continually simply because they were offended *sniff* with a forum posting. Or even to threaten them in real life how they are going to "find you" as "we have our ways"...
There is simply too many fuctards in game, that is all...
+1 for the use of the word 'fuctards' The proper use of dual monitors with the eve client. http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/2821/img0275jr.jpg |

Miss Whippy
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
181
|
Posted - 2012.04.06 13:04:00 -
[83] - Quote
Anyone who wants to know who my main is. Please send me your Name and Home Address, and I'll be happy to send it to you.  UI Iteration isn't enough, we need to start from scratch |

Jon Taggart
State War Academy Caldari State
12
|
Posted - 2012.04.06 13:30:00 -
[84] - Quote
I get called an alt even though I'm not an alt!
 |

Sevena Black
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
7
|
Posted - 2012.04.06 13:42:00 -
[85] - Quote
I'm an alt. Since I undock this toon, this is also a main.
Truly useless whining imho. Read the message and respond to it. If you're interested in political crap, contact alliance/corp diplomats.
And yes, there's a lot of pointless threads and posts in this forum. This could very well be one of them. I'll leave it up to the individual reader whether that applies to this post or this thread as well.
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Cosmic Fart
Hedion University Amarr Empire
11
|
Posted - 2012.04.06 14:02:00 -
[86] - Quote
Posting here to confirm this is my alt for posting.
I think the main reason why people like myself post with an alt is so I can keep playing a game I enjoy without a whole alliance trying to make my life in space a living hell when I say something that makes sense on the forums that someone might not like.
Best example for this argument would be recent events.
Oh... and I just love the argument: Post with your main or nothing you say is important. <-- I always fall for that line and end up posting with my main..... NOT!
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Khergit Deserters
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
22
|
Posted - 2012.04.09 01:58:00 -
[87] - Quote
Hi, I'm Khergit, and I'm an anonymous alt ('AA').
You could look at it as meta-gaming. In an ideal MMO society, everything would be home-grown within the game and everybody would have an accountable persona. Like, to build a mighty corp, you'd have to be a viking chieftain building a following of house karls based only on their trust in you to provide rings and booty. But no, we have Goons, Dreddit, Pandemic, etc. blobbing from outside the game with ready-made hordes. Meta-gaming. And we have people able to spend real dollars on PLEX and GMT to instantly put 100s of millions of isk in their wallets. Not a perfectly fair and accountable system by any means. So if people want to meta-game and use an anonymous posting alt, it's as fair as anything else. Part of reality, part of the game. |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
161
|
Posted - 2012.04.09 02:03:00 -
[88] - Quote
Spy 21 wrote:Doc Severide wrote:Zagdul wrote:I don't have a problem.
I think it's funny that people care THAT much about their internet, fake, pseudo self that they hide behind a second fake self to protect it.
It's kind of sad that many people who play EVE care that much about a video game that they are afraid to share their own opinion from their main fake self. This is another completely short sighted view bording on complete stupidity. Didn't the recent event of mitanni teach people anything?
People don't want to post with their main because some drunken, big mouth, sociopath will feel it is their mission in life to track someone down in game and grief them continually simply because they were offended *sniff* with a forum posting. Or even to threaten them in real life how they are going to "find you" as "we have our ways"...
There is simply too many fuctards in game, that is all... +1 for the use of the word 'fuctards'
+1 for the whole thing
Jon Taggart wrote:I get called an alt even though I'm not an alt! 
my main gets that all the time, even with the six year employment history Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you. |

Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
431
|
Posted - 2012.04.09 02:08:00 -
[89] - Quote
this is actually my main i guess. Have yet to find a normal person or persons to play eve with so i play solo. Have an alt in a corp but the people there are crazy, mean, elite and bitter. I have more space likes than you.-á |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
161
|
Posted - 2012.04.09 02:12:00 -
[90] - Quote
Dbars Grinding wrote:Have an alt in a corp but the people there are crazy, mean, elite and bitter.
ah, EVE players
Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you. |

Bluddwolf
Heimatar Military Industries
0
|
Posted - 2012.04.09 02:15:00 -
[91] - Quote
0August0 wrote: experience a little bit of real life for awhile.
Wait..... EVE is not real life?
Oh my, what am I to do now? To join Heimatar Military Industries-á visit website or conatct Bluddwolf in-gamewww.hmi.guildlaunch.com |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
161
|
Posted - 2012.04.09 02:17:00 -
[92] - Quote
Bluddwolf wrote:0August0 wrote: experience a little bit of real life for awhile. Wait..... EVE is not real life? Oh my, what am I to do now?
Whatever happened to that EVE IS REAL thing? Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you. |

Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
201
|
Posted - 2012.04.09 02:19:00 -
[93] - Quote
MeestaPenni wrote:Lifted from a different thread... Quote:I'm guessing that's nowhere near as pathetic as a coward NPC alt ****-poasting this rubbish. An Internet game where nearly everyone is using some kind of pseudonym, and this makes a difference how?
It doesn't make a difference, it's just some people like to think it makes a difference. |

Mathias Hex
Hillcrest Armaments
31
|
Posted - 2012.04.09 04:09:00 -
[94] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:Ocih wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:forum alts are for people who like to say dumb crap on the forums without any way of backing it up with actual experience
"okay thanks for your opinion on supercarriers, it's worthless though because I'm just assuming that you're a worthless miner" Wrong and you knows it. Goons are unique. Most alliances will emorage if thier members post here with thier mains. Most alliances see the forums as free intell to CCP, the enemy. if you're in an alliance that prohibits you from posting on eve-o you should jump ship
I agree with you 100% you should jump ship aswell. It just seems like goons are only allowed to post the same opinions as the (let me quote Beekeeper Bob) Queen Bee has.
It honestly makes me feel like you are all a bunch of bots with the same personality. I imagine its a goon rule for posting in forums that you all have to seem unified, but your right if an alliance prohibits you from publicly speaking your own opinions you should find a new corp/alliance. I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k. |

Jonas Xiamon
67
|
Posted - 2012.04.09 04:17:00 -
[95] - Quote
Mathias Hex wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Ocih wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:forum alts are for people who like to say dumb crap on the forums without any way of backing it up with actual experience
"okay thanks for your opinion on supercarriers, it's worthless though because I'm just assuming that you're a worthless miner" Wrong and you knows it. Goons are unique. Most alliances will emorage if thier members post here with thier mains. Most alliances see the forums as free intell to CCP, the enemy. if you're in an alliance that prohibits you from posting on eve-o you should jump ship I agree with you 100% you should jump ship aswell. It just seems like goons are only allowed to post the same opinions as the (let me quote Beekeeper Bob) Queen Bee has. It honestly makes me feel like you are all a bunch of bots with the same personality. I imagine its a goon rule for posting in forums that you all have to seem unified, but your right if an alliance prohibits you from publicly speaking your own opinions you should find a new corp/alliance.
It's called a hive-mind, and it's nothing to be ashamed of. I usally write one of these and then change it a month later when I reread it and decide it sounds stupid. |

Hroya
28
|
Posted - 2012.04.09 04:28:00 -
[96] - Quote
Ab-Use of gamefeatures in Eve. Why i never ... You go your corridor but. |

Surge Roth
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
40
|
Posted - 2012.04.09 04:39:00 -
[97] - Quote
Who knew that being smart is perceived as something negative?  |

Skex Relbore
Space Exploitation Inc Mordus Angels
149
|
Posted - 2012.04.09 05:20:00 -
[98] - Quote
It's about credibility. An anonymous posting alt has none.
Sure you can say that the argument should be judged on it's merit alone but so many of the arguments we're talking about are a matter of opinion and when it comes to weighing the value of an opinion on a controversial manner it's useful to have some idea of whether or not it's proponent has any relevant experience on the matter.
Someone who can point to their bonifides as evidence of their competence to discuss something automatically gain credibility vs those who do not. This doesn't mean that their argument isn't absolute crap but there is a higher likely hood of a superior crap opinion vs the person who is likely just talking out their backside. .
In the end though what it comes down to is this.
If you don't take your opinion seriously enough to stand behind it with your main, why should anyone else?
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
177
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Posted - 2012.04.09 06:22:00 -
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Mathias Hex wrote:It honestly makes me feel like you are all a bunch of bots with the same personality. I imagine its a goon rule for posting in forums that you all have to seem unified, but your right if an alliance prohibits you from publicly speaking your own opinions you should find a new corp/alliance.
we're not forced to toe any particular ~party line~
whoops Don't mind me, I'm just adding content to threads that otherwise have none. |

Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
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Posted - 2012.04.09 08:25:00 -
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Jonas Xiamon wrote:Mathias Hex wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Ocih wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:forum alts are for people who like to say dumb crap on the forums without any way of backing it up with actual experience
"okay thanks for your opinion on supercarriers, it's worthless though because I'm just assuming that you're a worthless miner" Wrong and you knows it. Goons are unique. Most alliances will emorage if thier members post here with thier mains. Most alliances see the forums as free intell to CCP, the enemy. if you're in an alliance that prohibits you from posting on eve-o you should jump ship I agree with you 100% you should jump ship aswell. It just seems like goons are only allowed to post the same opinions as the (let me quote Beekeeper Bob) Queen Bee has. It honestly makes me feel like you are all a bunch of bots with the same personality. I imagine its a goon rule for posting in forums that you all have to seem unified, but your right if an alliance prohibits you from publicly speaking your own opinions you should find a new corp/alliance. It's called a hive-mind, and it's nothing to be ashamed of.
Not for a bee anyway. |

malcovas Henderson
Smoking Minerals Syndicate Cannabis Legionis
4
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Posted - 2012.04.09 09:24:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=150990#post150990
This is another reason, why people hide behind alts. 2 days after this post was made. The character it was aimed at WD us. Coincidence?. I would imagine this happens quite alot. People take forum discussions to seriously and want retribution for anyone who disagrees or stands up to them.
You are protecting your ingame character. Cowardly? perhaps. But you can thank people that react to forum posts in game, for it happening.
You shouldn't call out the alt. Give merit to what they say. Who they say it on is irrevalent. It is what they say that matters.
o7 |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
77
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Posted - 2012.04.09 10:47:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:Richard Aiel wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Because people hide behind alts, so their main don't get ridiculed or punished or whatever.
Imagine that ... being anonymous on the internet, but still hiding ... or so the ppl on the forums cant rebuke the argument and take in into game, punishing the character/corp/alliance for what he said out of game (kinda sounds familiar really) In other words a player can shoot their mouth off and not have to face the consequences of their actions. Case in point: The quote in the OP was directed at an alt who is calling out pvp'rs and calling them losers, and yet he hides behind anonymity while doing so. Do you see the irony in such an action?
No. What I see is common sense. You want fries with that? |

Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.09 10:51:00 -
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MeestaPenni wrote:Lifted from a different thread... Quote:I'm guessing that's nowhere near as pathetic as a coward NPC alt ****-poasting this rubbish. An Internet game where nearly everyone is using some kind of pseudonym, and this makes a difference how?
It's the frustrated and mental week guys usually scamming, ganking, grieffing, concord exploiting, game rules abusing and most often boting, that use this kind of stuff.
Because they're too internet serious and really believe they exist in the matrix, that their name or their tag has whatever meaning. |

Jandice Ymladris
Perkone Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.04.09 10:52:00 -
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Eve Online is not like (most) other MMO's as everyone is on a single server, and the server has very loose rules considering PvP compared to other MMO's.
This means you got to guard your rep, and not **** off to many people, because they will chase you and lock you down if you **** m off hard enough.
With that in mand, people making alts to ridicule others is a normal practise, hoping to make the main look like a fool with the response, while their main is safe. It's all part of war & PvP. |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
77
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Posted - 2012.04.09 10:54:00 -
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Dbars Grinding wrote:this is actually my main i guess. Have yet to find a normal person or persons to play eve with so i play solo. Have an alt in a corp but the people there are crazy, mean, elite and bitter.
Just leave the goons then  You want fries with that? |

Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
524
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Posted - 2012.04.09 14:00:00 -
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In before post with your main...
Oh wait.
I post with a grey face to annoy people, not like "masternerdguy" who desires to draw attention because it gives him an erection. Generally if they get riled up over it, my point comes across and they wish to strike back but can't...further annoying them. Try not to go like MNguy, Mitty, or other dudes that like to get attention, I try to draw attention away by inserting a joke at their expense 
Nothing wrong with a alt of an alt pretending to be another alt, it worked for Robert Downey Jr in Tropic Thunder and going tripple down from RL worked in Inception . |

Dors Venabily
United Starbase Systems
18
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Posted - 2012.04.09 14:45:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:I don't have a problem.
I think it's funny that people care THAT much about their internet, fake, pseudo self that they hide behind a second fake self to protect it.
It's kind of sad that many people who play EVE care that much about a video game that they are afraid to share their own opinion from their main fake self.
Pretty much this |
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