EVE Search - Missile users please read.

All Channels

Ships and Modules

Missile users please read.

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 [2] 3 :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Velasi	Posted - 2008.11.12 05:12:00 - [31] not 1 painter...all missile skills 4/5 bs skill 4 all defense skills 4/5...My shields never dropped below 50%...remember NPC missile skills/gunnery skills where just as nerfed... When cruisers/frigs are warping towards you...you hit for more damage from when they are circling you... I typically kill bc/cruisers first while they are coming to me from 92-80k away...then I start blowing Battleships away at 60-50k away...and unleash drones at 35k away... I have seen no slow down in kill speed....I do see my overall damage has been reduced...but the npc's seem to be having the same probelms as us...so it evens out.
Szent AdamKiraly Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.11.12 05:39:00 - [32] Originally by: Derek Sigres Originally by: Daily Essentials F*cking idiots - missiles are way over nerfed. But I blame the Caldari pilots who spent too much time farming instead of getting on the test server. Why exactly should I be paying to perform QC on the behalf of CCP? My feedback would be ignored anyway. Becuase ccp are inept at doing it themselves.
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.11.12 05:41:00 - [33] Originally by: Szent AdamKiraly Originally by: Derek Sigres Originally by: Daily Essentials F*cking idiots - missiles are way over nerfed. But I blame the Caldari pilots who spent too much time farming instead of getting on the test server. Why exactly should I be paying to perform QC on the behalf of CCP? My feedback would be ignored anyway. Becuase ccp are inept at doing it themselves. If they want to pay me to do QC and then ignore it, then fine. As it stands, SiSi offers little more for me than testing out theoritical wacky fits in a realm slightly more realistic than theory and numbers.
BiggestT Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.11.12 05:42:00 - [34] Originally by: Megan Maynard Really I'm not kidding, sig radius is king now. Big ass targets make big ass hits. Webbers are probably better, from my experience ive seen webbers resulting in better hits than target painters. But plz tell me, how many mid slots must i sacrifice to make a nighthawk or cerb viable? EVE history Missiles post-nerf
Szent AdamKiraly Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.11.12 05:43:00 - [35] Originally by: Derek Sigres Originally by: Szent AdamKiraly Originally by: Derek Sigres Originally by: Daily Essentials F*cking idiots - missiles are way over nerfed. But I blame the Caldari pilots who spent too much time farming instead of getting on the test server. Why exactly should I be paying to perform QC on the behalf of CCP? My feedback would be ignored anyway. Becuase ccp are inept at doing it themselves. If they want to pay me to do QC and then ignore it, then fine. As it stands, SiSi offers little more for me than testing out theoritical wacky fits in a realm slightly more realistic than theory and numbers. Don't worry i am agreeing with you, they didn't listen to the hundereds of other players that tested anyway.
Chssmius Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.11.12 05:49:00 - [36] Originally by: Velasi not 1 painter...all missile skills 4/5 bs skill 4 all defense skills 4/5...My shields never dropped below 50%...remember NPC missile skills/gunnery skills where just as nerfed... When cruisers/frigs are warping towards you...you hit for more damage from when they are circling you... I typically kill bc/cruisers first while they are coming to me from 92-80k away...then I start blowing Battleships away at 60-50k away...and unleash drones at 35k away... I have seen no slow down in kill speed....I do see my overall damage has been reduced...but the npc's seem to be having the same probelms as us...so it evens out. NPCs hit with the same nerf as players? That would be a first. Last I checked, NPCs were still firing torps from +40 km away and hitting, so I hope you will forgive my skepticism. I spent the last 3 hours testing the combined effects of the speed and missile nerfs on my old Crow fit so I didn't get around to trying my week old (and first) Raven. Suffice it to say my Crow needs some love, but will have to wait until EFT has been updated.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.11.12 05:54:00 - [37] Originally by: Megan Maynard General discussion is a giant C.F. right now. Caldari pilots are morons. This accurately describes the past 6 months to a tee. -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Imaos	Posted - 2008.11.12 06:06:00 - [38] Originally by: BiggestT Originally by: Megan Maynard Really I'm not kidding, sig radius is king now. Big ass targets make big ass hits. Webbers are probably better, from my experience ive seen webbers resulting in better hits than target painters. But plz tell me, how many mid slots must i sacrifice to make a nighthawk or cerb viable? None? Both ships can be fitted for their role without a big sacrifice (unless you want MWD and gang link on the nighthawk). If you PvE in a NH (I do) you already sling medium sized missiles vs mostly same or bigger sized targets and we can ignore the speed of the targets now. There is also a flight of drones in my bay chewing down the smaller ships. And it is still overtanked. If you PvP in a nighthawk: You PvP in a nighthawk?!?!? Get a drake. (Same as before patch.) Cerb shouldnt go solo anyway. So why do you have to fit painter/web and not your tackler? Reminds me of the start of faction warfare. Nice ships with strong roles, lots of people with no clue->heavy losses. Imaos ------------------------------------------ Originally by: NoNah My friend, this is EVE, as it's a space oriented game, they couldn't have trolls. We have Caldari.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2008.11.12 06:48:00 - [39] WTB target painter with 250km range. Forcing all missile ships to give up their range advantage if they want to do damage is a massive nerf. ----------- Blaster sig removed for now, pending those "changes we've been working on all day". CCP, don't screw this up.
Karl Proseck	Posted - 2008.11.12 07:46:00 - [40] Edited by: Karl Proseck on 12/11/2008 07:46:51 whee, people really get bent out of shape over a game, lol game designers every where are set for years :P time for my own personal soapbox moment, then im silent again i have been playing for 2 weeks now, caldari toon, started as engineer flying a drake now, w/ hvy missiles, i tested out my dmg and it was a bit lower, so tp will have to do for me, i dont wanna get close enough to use a web, unless someone knows of one with greater then 10k optimal :) as for all tese complaints about losing tank, i have enough tank on my BC to hang in L4 missions with a buddy while he kills i soak dmg, and can handle a few BS rats on me, i dont do much dmg cause my offensive skills suck but come on, quit cryin about tank, just adapt to you situation and move on thats just my two cents, now i quietly await getting flamed :) had to edit out my crappy typing, probably missed most of it :P
BiggestT Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.11.12 07:47:00 - [41] Originally by: Imaos None? Both ships can be fitted for their role without a big sacrifice (unless you want MWD and gang link on the nighthawk). ... Cerb shouldnt go solo anyway. So why do you have to fit painter/web and not your tackler? Any ship needs a mwd or ab to remain viable in a fleet, else its just a sitting duck waiting to die if you get blobbed, as ull get caught reproaching gates etc. Then fitting a tp + speed means ur reduced to a 3 slot tank (lol). Of course we can simply rely on tacklers, rapiers etc, but its really annoying that caldari are so handi-capped without some kind of specialized support. Quote: If you PvP in a nighthawk: You PvP in a nighthawk?!?!? Get a drake. (Same as before patch.) I find it hilarious that CCP have continued to ignore cs, especially the nh, for so long when its intended as a combat/bonus platform: and fails terribly. The only succesful fits are buffer tanked bait setups with 3 dmg mods for quick ganks. But this is hardly a niche that justifies it as a good pvp ship. Quote: Reminds me of the start of faction warfare. Nice ships with strong roles, lots of people with no clue->heavy losses. Imaos Ill fly a cerb sure, and havnt ever lost one in pvp (lost one to friendly fire once lol). i wont fit a tp due to cerb being best at long range etc, so it still sucks that i have to cross my fingers that a rapier or webbing tackler is around to make me useful. EVE history Missiles post-nerf
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa Minmatar The Perfect Harvesting Experience	Posted - 2008.11.12 08:38:00 - [42] Maybe it takes 4,5 years in EVE not to be upset with your favorite ships being reduced in effectiveness. 3 Options: 1. Quit EVE. (Give me your stuff) 2. Retrain. (Try a different flavour, get mothballs and store your current favorite for future times.... trust me. Stick around long anough and it will be FotY/M/W/D all over again) 3. Adapt. (Fit webbers, painters or what not and keep flying these pretty, shiny ships) That's basically it.... been that way since EVE started, and that is one thing that will propably never get changed. Now I am off to get some coffee... ----------------------------------------------- Originally by: Paper Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
Amartius ANZAC ALLIANCE	Posted - 2008.11.12 08:40:00 - [43] Here is a link to a excel spreadsheet I made of damage w/ and w/o a Target Painter using a cruise missile raven. Excel Sheet
Hyveres Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.12 08:47:00 - [44] So what you are saying is bring a tackler with dual web & dual painters to do missions effectivly?
Vrabac Zawa's Fan Club	Posted - 2008.11.12 08:52:00 - [45] Originally by: BiggestT I find it hilarious that CCP have continued to ignore cs, especially the nh, for so long when its intended as a combat/bonus platform: and fails terribly. The only succesful fits are buffer tanked bait setups with 3 dmg mods for quick ganks. But this is hardly a niche that justifies it as a good pvp ship. Buffer tanked 3 dmg mods ships are good pvp ships and I rarely fly anything else. However Nighthawk still sucks because it CAN'T fit like that (if it wants to web and scram that is).
Naomi Knight Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.11.12 08:59:00 - [46] Just train for nightmare it is so much better than a cnr.
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa Minmatar The Perfect Harvesting Experience	Posted - 2008.11.12 09:16:00 - [47] Originally by: Amartius Here is a link to a excel spreadsheet I made of damage w/ and w/o a Target Painter using a cruise missile raven. Excel Sheet ROFL, ok you win. ----------------------------------------------- Originally by: Paper Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
Furb Killer Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.11.12 09:24:00 - [48] Just did two missions with my CNR, and will later also do same in navy mega, but i am pretty sure my CNR with t2/best named stuff and low skills still does missions faster than navy megathron filled with faction stuff and good skills. I hate to break the bubble of missile users, but turret users cant hit frigates at all, unless they are coming right for you. Missiles still hit frigates. With navy mega + faction tracking comp with tracking script i allready had reduced dps against angel BS, now you also got it. Big deal.
Lockheed19 Gallente Eve Defence Force Resurgency	Posted - 2008.11.12 12:17:00 - [49] Originally by: Dechmeister ...a TP on a Raven screws up the tank... Target painter drones.
knobber Jobbler	Posted - 2008.11.12 12:39:00 - [50] CNR with faction gear and med drones takes slightly longer to cut through a lvl 4. I would have been annoyed had a got Torps spec but Cruise and med drones are not nerfed as much as people make out. No need to fit that painter unless your in a Golem, in which case you should have one anyway!
Redginald M. Corp Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2008.11.12 12:52:00 - [51] Originally by: Merin Ryskin WTB target painter with 250km range. Forcing all missile ships to give up their range advantage if they want to do damage is a massive nerf. oh please. you can't even target that far. If you're going to sacrifice a mid for a sensor booster fit a tp :P
Ghoest	Posted - 2008.11.12 13:00:00 - [52] A battleship should not need a painter just to hit other battle ships for decent damage. If you think corp is different than a guild or clan you have some insecurity issues.
Malcanis RuffRyders Eradication Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.12 13:02:00 - [53] Originally by: Ghoest A battleship should not need a painter just to hit other battle ships for decent damage. Well it does, and it's not going to change for a while, so deal with it.
Malcanis RuffRyders Eradication Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.12 13:03:00 - [54] Originally by: Ghoest A battleship should not need a painter just to hit other battle ships for decent damage. Oh and by the way, to quote something that you've said more than once in the past... ...I don't even need to say it, do I?
Todoshi Caldari Caldari Logistics and Supplies	Posted - 2008.11.12 13:04:00 - [55] I wish people would relax, i'm a cnr pilot and in my experience of running missions since the patch it takes a little extra time but its not a huge problem. The problem comes from all low sp mission runners who expect to be able to train for 2-3 months jump in a raven and hit the i win button, sorry guys and gals time to try and find another easy route to mission farming, for me having run many many missions over the last 2 years and having more than the bare minimum its no huge loss. And yes a TP does help and if you cant fit one and still have a decent tank than your skills suck tbh go away and train and come back when you have the skillz Ghost Training Removed Thread
Tarkina Koslix Deep Space Supplies Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.11.12 13:33:00 - [56] Hi, everyone who took a look at sisi knew that it will be bad. Bad it is worse in the end :( if you can, check the caldari dread in siege mode.. ~5 m/s expl velocity.. even another dread can outrun this ;) I really do not see the need for a missile nerf.. they could not/barely hit a nano ship before the patch and now it's impossible.. and now the target does not even need to use an mwd for it.. any ship is faster than a heavy missile explosion now :) TBH CCP: Missile nerf => BIG FAIL! If you loose customers now, it's your own fault. cua
ViperVenom Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.11.12 13:34:00 - [57] Originally by: Dechmeister Originally by: Megan Maynard Originally by: Dechmeister Problem is, Caldari being what they were (PvE kings), a TP on a Raven screws up the tank, missiles STILL do less with TP and TP has crap optimal for cruise boats. On the upside, all Caldari can now cross train Amarr and you'll be one step closer to a Nightmare :D THEN USE FREAKING TP DRONES????? If you can't spare a mid slot in a raven then you have no hope. Give me your stuff. rofl, and what? even FURTHER the DPS nerf? Let's see, DPS nerfed even when target is TP'ed, oh, and let's waste drone DPS as well. Let's go and take 3 hours to do a single LVL4 Caldari are just fine iv said this in a few other post.... 1)Train your Alt in a Belicose Get Cruiser 4 2)Load said Bellicose with 2 Best named painters a LSEII and Shield Hardner of your choice 3)Train said Alt in Signature Focusing a skill im sure very few people have trained(Advanced understanding of target painting technology. 5% bonus to target painter modules signature radius multiplier per skill level) 4)Enjoy the Extra 3Hvy missle launchers and 4 med drones or light drones your choice. Pwnage new and Improved! Role Players.. The same D&D kids but now they are 30 and balding.
Unforgivin Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.12 13:50:00 - [58] Originally by: Merin Ryskin WTB target painter with 250km range. Forcing all missile ships to give up their range advantage if they want to do damage is a massive nerf. haha yeah, what a sad day for me being a raven cruise ***. guess i have to adapt and spend the next 3 months training some other useless bull** instead of enjoying the game. yes im a big sook. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Ghoest	Posted - 2008.11.12 13:54:00 - [59] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Ghoest A battleship should not need a painter just to hit other battle ships for decent damage. Oh and by the way, to quote something that you've said more than once in the past... ...I don't even need to say it, do I? Go a head and say it - I say a lot so there are several options. But really this isnt a problem for me. I have fine missile skills but my gunnery is better and if I do use a raven on a mission I ussually fit a painter already. I just never used to turn it on for a BS. Just because I think a change is dumb that doesnt mean Im suffering from it. If you think corp is different than a guild or clan you have some insecurity issues.
Sidus Isaacs	Posted - 2008.11.12 14:05:00 - [60] Originally by: Megan Maynard Edited by: Megan Maynard on 12/11/2008 03:19:06 STOP. BREATH. FIT A TARGET PAINTER OF SOME FORM. GO SHOOT STUFF. Well, no. You know what tank is for caldari?

Pages: 1 [2] 3 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.