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Tachidii
Wings of Sorrow
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Posted - 2012.04.07 02:16:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Petition to Remove T2BPO sign in thread for support.
Yes another T2 BPO Removal Thread so many of these over the years from so many players. It's as if something might be wrong and in need of correction in Eve.
T2 BPO were introduced to the game unfairly and given to selected CCP pets a massive advantage over inventors or a massive ISK dump to those who sold them, this was wrong and is in need of correction. T2 BPO's should be reinbursed to owning players in the form of Research points spent on the lottery.
So lets start off with some voices from CCP pet players who know their crappy allinces and corps will crumble without being propped up by CCP gifted ISK, God forbid that they fight other corps on even terms with out massive CCP assistance.
Just reimbursing people for taking their T2 Bpos will not be fair at all. I never won any lotteries, I had to wait years to finally buy a T2 bpo. Just giving me my isk back will be so unfair in many ways. What about all the time I spent grinding this game, saving my isk to buy my T2 bpos!?
It is way faster to make isk these days as to when I had to grind it out.
This game does not owe you anything! Stop complaining you slacker, and go and earn your worth. |

Stella SGP
65
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Posted - 2012.04.07 02:56:00 -
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Tachidii wrote:Just reimbursing people for taking their T2 Bpos will not be fair at all. I never won any lotteries, I had to wait years to finally buy a T2 bpo. Just giving me my isk back will be so unfair in many ways. What about all the time I spent grinding this game, saving my isk to buy my T2 bpos!?
It is way faster to make isk these days as to when I had to grind it out.
This game does not owe you anything! Stop complaining you slacker, and go and earn your worth. But crying ignorantly with no knowledge of why invention was introduced in the first place is so much easier.
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The Breadmaster
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2012.04.07 19:35:00 -
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Remove invention... because lets face it, f*** that clickfest.
Add T1/T2 toggle to every BPO in game.
Easy theorycrafting from here by CCP. |

Buzzmong
Aliastra Gallente Federation
188
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Posted - 2012.04.07 19:45:00 -
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I was playing the game before the lottery was taken away.
Although I'd been working on Research Points, I didn't stand a chance at the time due to the shear volume of RP points the people who started in 2003 had amassed and the fact each RP point gave you a ticket in the field the RP's were in.
Was I upset at the time the system was biased via time in game? Yes.
Am I bitter I didn't get a BPO? Not really.
Was I elated when CCP replaced it with Invention? Yes.
Was I estatic when I realised that actually, quite a few of the T2 ships and modules DO NOT have a T2 BPO (all those released AFTER invention)? Too bloody right I was.
Do I now own a T2 BPO? No.
Do I want removal of existing T2 BPO's? No. Emphatically no. |

Shadowsword
The Scope Gallente Federation
119
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Posted - 2012.04.07 19:46:00 -
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The Breadmaster wrote:Remove invention... because lets face it, f*** that clickfest.
Add T1/T2 toggle to every BPO in game.
Easy theorycrafting from here by CCP.
Great idea, let's remove whole layers of industry and make it super-easy like wow. Because what set Eve appart from other vanilla MMOs is not it's depth, not at all...
I swear, the level of stupid in this thread is reaching critical mass. |

Desimus Maximus
War Machine. The Revenant Order
1
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Posted - 2012.04.07 19:56:00 -
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I fully support the removal of T2 BPOs. It only widens the gap between the 125+ Million SP players/corps/alliances and those who are 2-3 yrs old or less. If they have all the skills why should they not be forced to use them and have all the same chance as the rest of us to obtain them. Instead, they had trillions of ISK to blow on **** from the Tech moons that most of us will never even see no matter how long we play the game of EvE.
CCP must realize that. They have the skills, make them ******* use them. |

Desimus Maximus
War Machine. The Revenant Order
1
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Posted - 2012.04.07 19:59:00 -
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Shadowsword wrote:The Breadmaster wrote:Remove invention... because lets face it, f*** that clickfest.
Add T1/T2 toggle to every BPO in game.
Easy theorycrafting from here by CCP. Great idea, let's remove whole layers of industry and make it super-easy like wow. Because what set Eve appart from other vanilla MMOs is not it's depth, not at all... I swear, the level of stupid in this thread is reaching critical mass.
So T2 BPOs make the game more difficult as opposed to forcing them to use their research skills like the rest of us?? Your logic is flawed. The T2 BPOs make it easier for a small few, removing them makes it more difficult for ALL of us. |

Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
33
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Posted - 2012.04.07 20:15:00 -
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This thread is never leaving front page, Well while I have an active account. New players beware T2BPO and CCP pets are still ruining this game for new players with there super duper ISK gifts and special items. |

Smoking Blunts
ZC Industries Dark Stripes
218
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Posted - 2012.04.07 20:40:00 -
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Desimus Maximus wrote:I fully support the removal of T2 BPOs. It only widens the gap between the 125+ Million SP players/corps/alliances and those who are 2-3 yrs old or less. If they have all the skills why should they not be forced to use them and have all the same chance as the rest of us to obtain them. Instead, they had trillions of ISK to blow on **** from the Tech moons that most of us will never even see no matter how long we play the game of EvE.
CCP must realize that. They have the skills, make them ******* use them.
anyone who eiither puts in the effort or $ can own a t2bp, there are loads sold every week most of the owners bought them, i did from the isk i made from invention. i do not understand why people feel all jelly cos there not willing to put the time/effort into something and go crying to the forums, wah wah its too hard cos i can't do maths wah wah CCP-áare full of words and no action. We will watch what they are doing, for now
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Devan Reale
Border Zone Combat 1121 Ventures
7
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Posted - 2012.04.07 21:20:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:This thread is never leaving front page, Well while I have an active account. New players beware T2BPO and CCP pets are still ruining this game for new players with there super duper ISK gifts and special items.
I'm sure new players will hopefully understand the value of working for something rather than having is given to them, which is what you and others in this thread are advocating. Hard work means nothing to you and "EvA", so you insist that CCP penalize those that put in years--- YEARS--- of hard work in favor of give-aways.
There's something you people just don't get: 1) If you don't want T2 BPOs in the game, buy them and then trash them. But you're not willing to put the money into doing that, unlike those of us that have T2 BPOs. 2) You don't understand the economics behind T2 BPO usage: it's been stated over and over in this thread, and you still goose-step on the removal bandwagon without giving a rational explanation of what is wrong having them in game. CCPs own numbers show that BPO production is a MINOR part of the market, overall, but you still seem to have the misguided notion that everything is out there because of T2 BPO production. Grow up.
For the new industrialists, I offer you the opposite side the the argument: work hard to get to a place of success, and reap the rewards. None of the black helicopter, "CCP pets" boolshite exists here, unlike what the advocates consistently fall back on. There's one truth here about the remove-T2-BPO side of this argument (and someone mentioned it earlier):
Envy.
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Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
33
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Posted - 2012.04.07 23:24:00 -
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Devan Reale wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:This thread is never leaving front page, Well while I have an active account. New players beware T2BPO and CCP pets are still ruining this game for new players with there super duper ISK gifts and special items. I'm sure new players will hopefully understand the value of working for something rather than having is given to them, which is what you and others in this thread are advocating. Hard work means nothing to you and "EvA", so you insist that CCP penalize those that put in years--- YEARS--- of hard work in favor of give-aways. There's something you people just don't get: 1) If you don't want T2 BPOs in the game, buy them and then trash them. But you're not willing to put the money into doing that, unlike those of us that have T2 BPOs. 2) You don't understand the economics behind T2 BPO usage: it's been stated over and over in this thread, and you still goose-step on the removal bandwagon without giving a rational explanation of what is wrong having them in game. CCPs own numbers show that BPO production is a MINOR part of the market, overall, but you still seem to have the misguided notion that everything is out there because of T2 BPO production. Grow up. For the new industrialists, I offer you the opposite side the the argument: work hard to get to a place of success, and reap the rewards. None of the black helicopter, "CCP pets" boolshite exists here, unlike what the advocates consistently fall back on. There's one truth here about the remove-T2-BPO side of this argument (and someone mentioned it earlier): Envy. [ /thread]
T2BPO were given for free as gifts both sanctioned and unsanctioned by ccp along with corrupt lottery. Remove them and end CCP's darkest hour once and for all. |

Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
590
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Posted - 2012.04.08 00:20:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:T2BPO were given for free as gifts both sanctioned and unsanctioned by ccp along with corrupt lottery. Remove them and end CCP's darkest hour once and for all. You do realize the T20 incident involved 6 BPO, that were returned to CCP:
CCP t20: on recent allegations
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Stella SGP
70
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Posted - 2012.04.08 00:24:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:T2BPO were given for free as gifts both sanctioned and unsanctioned by ccp along with corrupt lottery. Remove them and end CCP's darkest hour once and for all. CCP's biggest failure is allowing you to open an account. |

Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
33
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Posted - 2012.04.08 00:47:00 -
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Look at all the T2 BPO owners crying at the thought of having to do invention like the rest of EVE players. It's so sexy. |

Tachidii
Wings of Sorrow
2
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Posted - 2012.04.08 01:29:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Look at all the T2 BPO owners crying at the thought of having to do invention like the rest of EVE players. It's so sexy.
lol do you think owners of T2 Bpos don't do inventions? Dude go play WoW, there you get lots of shinies for free. You will fit right in with all the QQ'ers there. |

Stella SGP
70
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Posted - 2012.04.08 01:36:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Look at all the T2 BPO owners crying at the thought of having to do invention like the rest of EVE players. It's so sexy. Tears? What tears? |

Devan Reale
Border Zone Combat 1121 Ventures
8
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Posted - 2012.04.08 01:49:00 -
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Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
T2BPO were given for free as gifts both sanctioned and unsanctioned by ccp along with corrupt lottery. Remove them and end CCP's darkest hour once and for all.
I just realized you're trolling, and not as stupid as you were portraying. My bad. I give you 5/10. Well done. |

Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor Intrepid Crossing
239
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Posted - 2012.04.08 03:18:00 -
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Ah crap, yeah trolling. 6/10 Maximze your Industry Potential! - Get EVE Isk per Hour! |

Raven Ether
Republic University Minmatar Republic
140
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Posted - 2012.04.08 06:07:00 -
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Meh, they are an ISK printing machine. Whoever has a decent one just doesn't care about making ISK anymore.
Give them the finger and remove them. |

Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
36
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Posted - 2012.04.08 07:45:00 -
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Tachidii wrote:Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:Look at all the T2 BPO owners crying at the thought of having to do invention like the rest of EVE players. It's so sexy. lol do you think owners of T2 Bpos don't do inventions? Dude go play WoW, there you get lots of shinies for free. You will fit right in with all the QQ'ers there.
I insist that all those defending T2BPO go play wow clearly they like to be gifted items that allow a massive advantage over regular players. Item's that can be locked away in stations pumping items/isk out at zero effort 24/7. While their oppenents ahve to put a lot of effort into invention to create their items. |
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Shadowsword
The Scope Gallente Federation
120
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Posted - 2012.04.08 08:28:00 -
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Desimus Maximus wrote:Shadowsword wrote:The Breadmaster wrote:Remove invention... because lets face it, f*** that clickfest.
Add T1/T2 toggle to every BPO in game.
Easy theorycrafting from here by CCP. Great idea, let's remove whole layers of industry and make it super-easy like wow. Because what set Eve appart from other vanilla MMOs is not it's depth, not at all... I swear, the level of stupid in this thread is reaching critical mass. So T2 BPOs make the game more difficult as opposed to forcing them to use their research skills like the rest of us?? Your logic is flawed. The T2 BPOs make it easier for a small few, removing them makes it more difficult for ALL of us.
That's not what he proposed. What he want is scrap the whole invention process, datacore/decryptor acquisition, blueprint market, and all that only to basically give all T2 bpos to everyone.
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote: I insist that all those defending T2BPO go play wow clearly they like to be gifted items that allow a massive advantage over regular players. Item's that can be locked away in stations pumping items/isk out at zero effort 24/7. While their oppenents ahve to put a lot of effort into invention to create their items
Buy them. Trash them. And fraps it. If you don't even have the conviction to get started on that, you're just yet another envious jerk who can't stand the fact that playing longer give you an edge, like in any other MMO.
A smart man who doesn't want to compete with old players would concentrate his invention efforts on items that don't have T2 bpos, like HIC, instead of crying here.
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
1421

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Posted - 2012.04.08 09:02:00 -
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Petitions are not allowed on the forums.
Thread locked.
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire |
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