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captcommunic
Gallente Star Surfers
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Posted - 2008.11.14 02:06:00 -
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I have been playing around with drake setups for a corp mate. It has to be all tech1 at the moment so don't bother saying "ZoMg Why you not using tech2". Comment as you wish
[Drake, Uber Hacker] Shield Power Relay I Shield Power Relay I Power Diagnostic System I Power Diagnostic System I
Large Shield Extender I Large Shield Extender I Large Shield Extender I Shield Recharger II V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile [empty high slot]
Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I
Effective HP : 44026 Shield HP : 11999
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.11.14 02:13:00 -
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If you've got the ISK for Arbalest launchers you've got the ISK for best-named PDS's and LSE's. Personally I'd just upgrade to the cheaper and better T2 where possible, although you may run short on CPU, since that's usually what runs short first on a Drake fit.
Those particular shield hardeners may be ineffective against certain enemies (like Sansha or Blood Raiders, for instance), but you can always switch them if needed.
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captcommunic
Gallente Star Surfers
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Posted - 2008.11.14 02:15:00 -
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Edited by: captcommunic on 14/11/2008 02:16:30 ISK is not a problem.....and i will proby give him the best named modules. But he cant use tech2 yet and CPU is fine.
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.11.14 02:21:00 -
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Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 14/11/2008 02:22:12 I haven't run the numbers on system stats for the modules you've got listed because I don't know your fitting skills, but IF you can add another power relay by dropping a PDS and still have enough grid to fit everything else, check and see if your effective shield HP isn't actually higher. Obviously the power relays reduce shield HP, but they also boost the recharge rate pretty awesomely, so you may want to compare effective HP with three SPRs and one PDS vs. two SPRs and two PDSs.
If you can't fit everything into the grid offered by only one PDS, drop both PDSs entirely and put in a reactor con and a third SPR and compare the effective shield HP again. The results may be surprising (or they may not )
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captcommunic
Gallente Star Surfers
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Posted - 2008.11.14 02:28:00 -
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I tried that but it makes the cap crap. But yes you get a much higher tank.
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.11.14 02:36:00 -
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Cap may suck but does it suck so bad that you can't even run two shield hardeners? Those are the only modules that actually use cap on the setup listed.
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captcommunic
Gallente Star Surfers
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Posted - 2008.11.14 02:39:00 -
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Meh, The setup seems fine for me ? With two SPR and two PDS.
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.11.14 02:42:00 -
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If it works it works.
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MegabitOne
Caldari The Black Ops Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.14 05:22:00 -
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http://www.battleclinic.com/forum/index.php/topic,8767.0/Solo-Level-4-Passive-Tank-Drake.html 330-odd people can't all be wrong.... If you can't fly it yet, aim for this direction. It's a simple setup and it's one that works. --- I'm not as bad-ass as some of my corp mates, but I'll pwn you anyway!
-= In God we trust, all the others pay cash =- |

Ragnar Darkstar
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Posted - 2008.11.14 07:00:00 -
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Originally by: captcommunic I have been playing around with drake setups for a corp mate. It has to be all tech1 at the moment so don't bother saying "ZoMg Why you not using tech2". Comment as you wish
[Drake, Uber Hacker] Shield Power Relay I Shield Power Relay I Power Diagnostic System I Power Diagnostic System I
Large Shield Extender I Large Shield Extender I Large Shield Extender I Shield Recharger II V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile [empty high slot]
Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I
Effective HP : 44026 Shield HP : 11999
Use rat-specific hardeners if you're going to PVE in that.
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Krystyn
Caldari Serenity Rising LLC
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Posted - 2008.11.15 22:21:00 -
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I fly a Drake similarly fitted, although with mostly T2 parts. I found that there is a little room for variation with the shield tank. It plays pretty good as a passive tank with no shield recharger and more hardeners, but then you need to be setup for the types of rats you are fighting. I have some EM and thermal rigs as I fight the guristas almost exclusively with this ship. And with uber skills you may be able to swing a BCU. Drones never hurt for frigs either
Also not as efficient DPS and tanking wise, but may be more fun solo missioning is to have a tractor and an AB to shorten loot timing |

E Vile
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.11.16 00:21:00 -
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Edited by: E Vile on 16/11/2008 00:22:16 I suggest training skills to use T2 before flying out in a 100+ million isk drake fit. Arbys costing roughly 15 mil a piece just don't fit when your using things like Shield extender I.
Train your skills and you can fit T2 with 4 Shield relays instead of 2 pds.
Also with this Sig radius change, passive shield tanking BC makes you take more damage with all the sig penalties.
I have been active tanking my AB fit nighthawk noticing a stronger tank by far with 3 BCU (for max damage). I wonder how a Active tanked AB fit drake would fare now.
Smaller sig + speed from the AB = taking lots less damage.
QR was totally a silent nerf on passive shield tanking.
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Hanna Soykannen
Industrial Legion of EVE
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Posted - 2008.11.16 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: captcommunic
I have been playing around with drake setups for a corp mate. It has to be all tech1 at the moment so don't bother saying "ZoMg Why you not using tech2". Comment as you wish
[Drake, Uber Hacker] <...> Effective HP : 44026 Shield HP : 11999
I used to fly my drake completely passive, but wanted to fit a BCU without gimping my tank too much. After lots of playing around, I ended up with this:
high: 7x heavy missile launcher, 1x small NOS mid: 2x LSE, 2x rat specific shield hardener, 2x rat specific resist amp low: 1x BCU, 3x shield power relay rigs: 3x core defense field purger I drones: 5x Hobgoblin/Hornet (soon to be: 3 Hobgoblin II and 2 target painter drones)
I have less than 4 million skillpoints (i.e. not all T2) and had no problems soloing tougher level 3 missions like "my sweet privateer" with this. For level 4 missions in fleet, I use four shield power relays in the lows and exchange one LSE with a target painter.
Cheers, --Hanna |

Dracthera
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Posted - 2008.11.16 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: E Vile I wonder how a Active tanked AB fit drake would fare now.
Active tank Drake works very well still. The active setup allows you to have more damage mods (I have 4xBCUs on mine), and a much reduced sign radius while still delivering the same defense rating. It's a beautiful thing =).
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Al Drevika
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Posted - 2008.11.16 18:59:00 -
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No, no, no, no, no.
The Drake has ALWAYS cried out to be a passive tank. I ran a T1 Drake through L3 missions, and I could probably do so even after the nerf by adding a target painter.
Midslots should be 3 LSEs, 2 hardeners and (now) 1 TP. That's it. Case closed. You are already running SPRs, so unless you have a split personality you're going about this the wrong way. Believe me, I tried to mix the two, and I was corrected months ago, and I've never been happier since, having moved to passive.
Putting active tank on a Drake makes me want to swap people on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper. BAD capsuleer, BAD BAD capsuleer! |

Dracthera
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Posted - 2008.11.16 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Al Drevika No, no, no, no, no. Putting active tank on a Drake makes me want to swap people on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper. BAD capsuleer, BAD BAD capsuleer!
... says the player who needs 3 hours to complete an L3 mission... The fact that you tried 'mixing the two' means you didn't really understand what you were doing in terms of building an active tank Drake. Don't knock it until you're tried it for real. I have the same amount of tank and vastly more DPS in my active tanked Drake, and yet you're saying I shouldn't go with that setup? Just so I could be like the 20,000 other passive Drake setups? LOL! |

Thenoran
Caldari Hegemony Enterprises E L I T E Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.17 11:13:00 -
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The only time I bother to passive tank my Drake is during New Frontiers 5 of 7. You can get a cheap Pithi C-Type or B-Type from the contract market and it tanks any lvl 3 mission I've faced easily and for lvl 4's you use a Raven. Active Tank allows for much more DPS and you could even use HAMs if you wanted. ------------------------ Ship Yield Calc Improve Mining |

pausert
Caldari AFK
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Posted - 2008.11.17 17:14:00 -
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For lvl 3 drop the shield recharger for a resistance amp, you can drop down to 2 lse from 3 and fit another amp. I used 2 lse, 3 amps and 1 inv field and in lows go 2 spr 2 bcu.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2008.11.17 17:20:00 -
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I was thinking this set up might be fun
7 cald navy heavies
4 mission specific hardeners 1 large gisti booster 1 named Afterburner
3 cald navy BCU 2 what ever fits and helps with cap |

Thenoran
Caldari Hegemony Enterprises E L I T E Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.17 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest I was thinking this set up might be fun
7 cald navy heavies
4 mission specific hardeners 1 large gisti booster 1 named Afterburner
3 cald navy BCU 2 what ever fits and helps with cap
Large Booster might kill cap pretty fast and you do know the Drake only has 4 lowslots?  |
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2008.11.18 00:52:00 -
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A Gisti should pull though on the cap with skills and implants I think. And obviously not - I guess you get one low slot for that cap item. |
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