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Electra Deis
Duty.
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Posted - 2008.12.07 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: HighwayMan DhD
Originally by: Johnny Ringo
Originally by: HighwayMan DhD Edited by: HighwayMan DhD on 06/12/2008 16:35:02 Nice killboards - your current contract is going to fail hard - well earned isk down the pan from the gaffer imo.
hahahhaaah
Why don't you log a few guys on and find out? Or are you guys just gonna play WoW till the contract ends?
We will log the corp in when we feel like it.
I think you'll find its your job to be effective and get the kills. Beggin us on the forums to login and undock at times to suit you is a slice of fail already.
How many kills you got so far? Your gaffer pleased with his isk spending?
War Decs are borked atm, the hit price is a waste of money imo. When we decide to continue to make money in Empire there are many ways to proceed un molested should your corp make any impacton our operation.
Good hunting tho lol
You're wrong you know. Most clients don't pay just for kills...they pay to inconvenience you and stop you from operating. If Noir. are keeping you logged off or docked, thats a win really.
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HighwayMan DhD
Highwaymen
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Posted - 2008.12.07 16:12:00 -
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Edited by: HighwayMan DhD on 07/12/2008 16:14:51 The issue is that they aint.
We operate as a corp just a few nights per week - you'll see us logged in alot now - as I have asked the pilots to login while at work and such, just to give your boys a station to watch.
If it seems remotly likely that we will be incovinienced we will drop to NPC undeckable corps or hop around without roles - as CCP decided this was nice a legal some time ago.
Like I said War Decs are broken atm. You aint bothering us at all.
Have fun camping AFK pilots until we are ready to drop corp and carry on as usual tho lol isk well spent indeed lol
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Electra Deis
Duty.
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Posted - 2008.12.07 16:25:00 -
[33]
Just FYI, i'm not in Noir. and am not camping you ;)
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HighwayMan DhD
Highwaymen
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Posted - 2008.12.07 16:34:00 -
[34]
lol
I figured we are all intelligent enough to attribute the sentences to whom they were intended.
;)
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HighwayMan DhD
Highwaymen
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Posted - 2008.12.07 16:35:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde the server they are hosted on is updating its DNS, they should be up soon (tm)
DNS updates should only slow you down for 24 hours.
Whats taking ya so long - professional indeed :P
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BloodBird
Gallente Duty.
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Posted - 2008.12.07 18:09:00 -
[36]
Bump for a corp I was 2 seconds away from joining when they had just started out... I nearly regret that these days, nearly
Glad to see your doing fine, keep it going strong folks o7
P.S: Nice new banner. Beats the old one easily.
DesuSigs |

BloodBird
Gallente Duty.
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Posted - 2008.12.07 18:17:00 -
[37]
Originally by: HighwayMan DhD Edited by: HighwayMan DhD on 07/12/2008 16:14:51 The issue is that they aint.
We operate as a corp just a few nights per week - you'll see us logged in alot now - as I have asked the pilots to login while at work and such, just to give your boys a station to watch.
If it seems remotly likely that we will be incovinienced we will drop to NPC undeckable corps or hop around without roles - as CCP decided this was nice a legal some time ago.
Like I said War Decs are broken atm. You aint bothering us at all.
Have fun camping AFK pilots until we are ready to drop corp and carry on as usual tho lol isk well spent indeed lol
P.S: If you change corp, the deck on Noir's clients goes void, and they did their job - they forced you not be able to harm them, thus, Noir did as they were paid to do. If you deck their clients with the new corp Noir can just deck that corp too.
In any situation, unless you fight and beat them on a regular basis and keep them away from you while you engage thir clients, they win.
No matter what you do, if you don't fight and win over them, you are the one that loses, this fact will not change. Please go troll elsewhere now.
DesuSigs |

HighwayMan DhD
Highwaymen
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Posted - 2008.12.07 18:28:00 -
[38]
We have never issued a war dec to date. I can only assume that the contract issued was a result of a Hi-sec suicide hit we carried out
We will switch to NPC corps as I have stated eariler. (undeccable - as you seem to be unable to read bewtween the lines, it will help to highlight problems with NPC corps and the current War Dec system)
They have never and will never slow us down or impeed us in any way from going about our business. We only operate a few evenings a week and will be dropped into NPC corps seconds before undocking......
I fail to see how this could be deemed a sucess on any level - we use fleet chat instead of corp chats - OH NOES! lol
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HighwayMan DhD
Highwaymen
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Posted - 2008.12.07 18:29:00 -
[39]
Originally by: BloodBird Please go troll elsewhere now.
WTS clue - you buying?
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Mickey Simon
Noir.
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Posted - 2008.12.07 18:36:00 -
[40]
Originally by: BloodBird P.S: Nice new banner. Beats the old one easily.
Cheers  Meanwhile, on the other side of town . . . |

Dun Bynar
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.07 18:38:00 -
[41]
Originally by: HighwayMan DhD We have never issued a war dec to date. I can only assume that the contract issued was a result of a Hi-sec suicide hit we carried out
We will switch to NPC corps as I have stated eariler. (undeccable - as you seem to be unable to read bewtween the lines, it will help to highlight problems with NPC corps and the current War Dec system) They have never and will never slow us down or impeed us in any way from going about our business. We only operate a few evenings a week and will be dropped into NPC corps seconds before undocking......
I fail to see how this could be deemed a sucess on any level - we use fleet chat instead of corp chats - OH NOES! lol
LOL...I have a clue for you..and its free Bro you have already lost! grow a pair or better yet get some pride......better to get your pixels popped than to be made to be a npc corper from fear......I am amazed! A system of morality which is based on relative emotional values is a mere illusion, a thoroughly vulgar conception which has nothing sound in it and nothing true. |

BloodBird
Gallente Duty.
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Posted - 2008.12.07 18:44:00 -
[42]
Originally by: HighwayMan DhD
Originally by: BloodBird Please go troll elsewhere now.
WTS clue - you buying?
I don't accept scams, you can't sell something you don't have. The point is, whoever hired Noir against you can't be bothered effectively from NPC corps, so by forcing you to become a collection of random people they did their jobs. I doubt anyone but you care about what you can do in an NPC corp, because it's not much.
Having said that; your attempt to belittle their efforts are transparent like water, it's obvious your bothered; you would not degrade to NPC corps if this did not affect you. But you know, keep telling yourself it's no big deal, if you say it often enough it might become reality.
Noir had yet another positive contract, regardless of what you do now.
DesuSigs |

HighwayMan DhD
Highwaymen
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Posted - 2008.12.07 18:44:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Dun Bynar
LOL...I have a clue for you..and its free Bro you have already lost! grow a pair or better yet get some pride......better to get your pixels popped than to be made to be a npc corper from fear......I am amazed!
Nothing to do with fear. Fear about loosing insured pixels? lol
Its about productivity.
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HighwayMan DhD
Highwaymen
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Posted - 2008.12.07 18:46:00 -
[44]
Edited by: HighwayMan DhD on 07/12/2008 18:50:11 18:49:48
Originally by: BloodBird The point is, whoever hired Noir against you can't be bothered effectively from NPC corps, so by forcing you to become a collection of random people they did their jobs.
I beg to differ.
F1-F8 works regardless of corp ticker.
Edit: We aint bothering anyone in particular, any hauler or mission runner with decent fits/cargo will do. This is a revenge war dec lol, and whats he getting for his isk? hrmmmmm
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HighwayMan DhD
Highwaymen
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Posted - 2008.12.07 18:57:00 -
[45]
Originally by: BloodBird
Noir had yet another positive contract, regardless of what you do now.
The wardec system let Noir. down regardless of how you try and spin it.
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
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Posted - 2008.12.07 21:43:00 -
[46]
There are many faults with the war dec system to be sure. I've posted about it on the CSM forums a couple times.
Luckly address book, locator agents, and the global criminal countdown for attacking people in high security space should still work. 
Without belaboring the point, Duty. is right (ty for the banner compliment) war targets are wrong, over protecting carebears=enabling suicide gankers, ergo CCP sucks and should get on fixing that. ---
Zombie Apocalypse Guitar-Wielding Superteam |

Baron Holbach
Pernicious Creed
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Posted - 2008.12.07 22:11:00 -
[47]
Originally by: HighwayMan DhD
If it seems remotly likely that we will be incovinienced we will drop to NPC undeckable corps or hop around without roles - as CCP decided this was nice a legal some time ago.
to bad ccp havnt said it was a exploit.
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ArmyOfMe
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.12.07 22:24:00 -
[48]
awsome guys. Aleks once gave me the fight of a lifetime
Originally by: deadmaus
Because by the time we had calmed Plague down after he heard BoB were back in the vicinity it was too late to do anything
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TlinGthOr SerZoriions
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Posted - 2008.12.08 00:54:00 -
[49]
Edited by: TlinGthOr SerZoriions on 08/12/2008 00:54:48 I feel I have to post in this thread regarding a recently completed war dek my main paid Noir to take out.
Yes I am an alt - I am posting with this alt out of fear of retribution from Alekseve (noir liason) and my CEO. I am no longer a member of the corp who hired them, and am now in a corp with a restrictive forum posting policy. You guys probably can work out who I am if you know me.
We were conned into hiring Noir as we heard that they were supposed to be good pvp-ers. In practice, we found they did little more then log on toons in war target systems then go AFK. we subsequently found out that two or three players in NOIR run multiple accounts to boost their numbers yet never engage them in combat. Their K/D ratio was.... mediocre.
That isn't my complaint though - there are plenty of amateur merks out their and you take your risks when you pay the merks that they are not going to be up to scratch.
The problem we had was this: Upon reaching a settlement with the corp who we had wardeked. we asked Noir to retract the dec, and paid up the full bonus agreed when we established the contract.
Noir took our isk, and refused to drop the dek stating "now it was personal" between them and the target corp (citing some smack talk). They then proceeded to extend the dek over and above what we had paid for.
This created HUGE problems between my corp and the wardeked corp - who assumed we had backed out on our peace deal.
This cost my corp a lot of isk - and it was highly unprofessional of Noir.
So just a warning for anyone wanting to hire them that they are shoddy merks - and I would suggest you look elsewhere for reputable merks.
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Zeraphine Akarii
Noir.
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Posted - 2008.12.08 01:31:00 -
[50]
Originally by: TlinGthOr SerZoriions Edited by: TlinGthOr SerZoriions on 08/12/2008 00:56:53 I feel I have to post in this thread regarding a recently completed war dek my old corp paid Noir to take out.
Yes I am an alt - I am posting with this alt out of fear of retribution from Alekseve (noir liason) and my CEO. I am no longer a member of the corp who hired them, and am now in a corp with a restrictive forum posting policy. You guys probably can work out who I am if you know me (hint check out the name ;))
We were conned into hiring Noir as we heard that they were supposed to be good pvp-ers. In practice, we found they did little more then log on toons in war target systems then go AFK. we subsequently found out that two or three players in NOIR run multiple accounts to boost their numbers yet never engage them in combat. Their K/D ratio was.... mediocre.
That isn't my complaint though - there are plenty of amateur merks out their and you take your risks when you pay the merks that they are not going to be up to scratch.
The problem we had was this: Upon reaching a settlement with the corp who we had wardeked. we asked Noir to retract the dec, and paid up the full bonus agreed when we established the contract.
Noir took our isk, and refused to drop the dek stating "now it was personal" between them and the target corp (citing some smack talk). They then proceeded to extend the dek over and above what we had paid for.
This created HUGE problems between my corp and the wardeked corp - who assumed we had backed out on our peace deal.
  This cost my corp a lot of isk - and it was highly unprofessional of Noir.   
So just a warning for anyone wanting to hire them that they are shoddy merks - and I would suggest you look elsewhere for reputable merks.
Not mentioning the other parties involved, reduces your post to nothing more than a childish rant.
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Vandamsel
Gallente Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.12.08 02:11:00 -
[51]
Originally by: TlinGthOr SerZoriions Edited by: TlinGthOr SerZoriions on 08/12/2008 00:56:53 I feel I have to post in this thread regarding a recently completed war dek my old corp paid Noir to take out.
Yes I am an alt - I am posting with this alt out of fear of retribution from Alekseve (noir liason) and my CEO. I am no longer a member of the corp who hired them, and am now in a corp with a restrictive forum posting policy. You guys probably can work out who I am if you know me (hint check out the name ;))
We were conned into hiring Noir as we heard that they were supposed to be good pvp-ers. In practice, we found they did little more then log on toons in war target systems then go AFK. we subsequently found out that two or three players in NOIR run multiple accounts to boost their numbers yet never engage them in combat. Their K/D ratio was.... mediocre.
That isn't my complaint though - there are plenty of amateur merks out their and you take your risks when you pay the merks that they are not going to be up to scratch.
The problem we had was this: Upon reaching a settlement with the corp who we had wardeked. we asked Noir to retract the dec, and paid up the full bonus agreed when we established the contract.
Noir took our isk, and refused to drop the dek stating "now it was personal" between them and the target corp (citing some smack talk). They then proceeded to extend the dek over and above what we had paid for.
This created HUGE problems between my corp and the wardeked corp - who assumed we had backed out on our peace deal.
  This cost my corp a lot of isk - and it was highly unprofessional of Noir.   
So just a warning for anyone wanting to hire them that they are shoddy merks - and I would suggest you look elsewhere for reputable merks.
its mercs, not merks
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
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Posted - 2008.12.08 02:37:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Alekseyev Karrde on 08/12/2008 02:38:38
Originally by: TlinGthOr SerZoriions Edited by: TlinGthOr SerZoriions on 08/12/2008 00:56:53 I feel I have to post in this thread regarding a recently completed war dek my old corp paid Noir to take out.
Yes I am an alt - I am posting with this alt out of fear of retribution from Alekseve (noir liason) and my CEO. I am no longer a member of the corp who hired them, and am now in a corp with a restrictive forum posting policy. You guys probably can work out who I am if you know me (hint check out the name ;))
We were conned into hiring Noir as we heard that they were supposed to be good pvp-ers. In practice, we found they did little more then log on toons in war target systems then go AFK. we subsequently found out that two or three players in NOIR run multiple accounts to boost their numbers yet never engage them in combat. Their K/D ratio was.... mediocre.
That isn't my complaint though - there are plenty of amateur merks out their and you take your risks when you pay the merks that they are not going to be up to scratch.
The problem we had was this: Upon reaching a settlement with the corp who we had wardeked. we asked Noir to retract the dec, and paid up the full bonus agreed when we established the contract.
Noir took our isk, and refused to drop the dek stating "now it was personal" between them and the target corp (citing some smack talk). They then proceeded to extend the dek over and above what we had paid for.
This created HUGE problems between my corp and the wardeked corp - who assumed we had backed out on our peace deal.
  This cost my corp a lot of isk - and it was highly unprofessional of Noir.   
So just a warning for anyone wanting to hire them that they are shoddy merks - and I would suggest you look elsewhere for reputable merks.
Wow.. Smack is one thing, but that's just an out and out lie.
Confrim some things first: Sometimes we'll put a guy afk in a target system; it's an effective and legit tactic. I beleive apx 4 members of Noir. have multiple combat chars in corp but only one dual boxes; and?
Proof(s) the rest is pure crap: I have never paid a Noir. war dec fee out of pocket. Ever lol. And you specifically said "recently" which is a very interesting time frame since Viqer Fell handled wardec for TNT alliance a and when we left around a monthish ago. Since leaving the only contracts involving war decs we've have finished are G00DFELLAS, Apotheosis of Virtue, and Molotov Coalition. All of those are alliances not corps and none of those contracts remotely involved me talking with the targets about stopping early.
And for the record, nothing like this ever happened when we were in TNT alliance either.
Highwaymen, ffs at least get it right haha. You certainly have the time to do proper research twiddling your thumbs in the stations you dont mind sitting in. And take a spelling course.
While i do enjoy watching a grown person make themselves look like a complete child, could i get a mod to come sweep this crap up? ---
Zombie Apocalypse Guitar-Wielding Superteam |

TlinGthOr SerZoriions
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Posted - 2008.12.08 10:43:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde
Originally by: TlinGthOr SerZoriions
Proof(s) the rest is pure crap: This corp has never paid a war dec fee out of pocket. Ever. EVER lol. And you specifically said "recently" which is a very interesting time frame since Viqer Fell handled wardec for TNT alliance a and when we left around a monthish ago. Since leaving the only contracts involving war decs we've have finished are G00DFELLAS, Apotheosis of Virtue, and Molotov Coalition. All of those are alliances not corps and none of those contracts remotely involved me talking with the targets about stopping early.
And for the record, nothing like that post ever happened while we were in TNT alliance either.
At least get it right haha. And take a spelling course.
While i do enjoy watching a grown person make themselves look like a complete child, could i get a mod to come sweep this crap up?
Whitewashing from Alek here. He agrees I have a knowledge of how Noir operates, places undue emphasis on certain words to distract from the main point, feigns confusion, then proceeds to try to cover up - or have a mod remove the rest of my post.
1) When I said "recently" it was to deliberately disguise the timezones of the dec. 2) "and none of those contracts remotely involved me talking with the targets about stopping early" - very good Alex is not lying here  You were talking with your client (us) not the target (those we paid you to undek).
Standard whitewash cover up.
I repeat - Mediocre killstats can be excused away by yourself all you like. Im not bothered too much about your halfassed AFK camping and failure to achieve decent kills. Your unprofessional behavior cannot be excused!!!! If you hire these guys instead of any of the other options out there - be prepared to be dumped on when they cant control themselves.
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Stealthman06
LoneStar Industries FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.12.08 10:43:00 -
[54]
Not many Mod's around here these days.
Showing you my new Sig. Oh and friendly Bump.
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HighwayMan DhD
Highwaymen
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Posted - 2008.12.08 11:36:00 -
[55]
wow - another happy customer eh.
go go afk contract isk! |

Lightbringer
Low Sec Liberators Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
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Posted - 2008.12.08 14:35:00 -
[56]
Quote: I beleive apx 4 members of Noir. have multiple combat chars in corp but only one dual boxes
Call yourselves professional and most of you cant multi account? :S
And the guy pointed out that you used alts to boost numbers. not to increase your, from this thread atleast,Seemingly bad PVPing ability.
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
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Posted - 2008.12.08 15:55:00 -
[57]
Edited by: Alekseyev Karrde on 08/12/2008 15:55:59 TlinGthOr SerZoriions> You try to confuse! ---
Zombie Apocalypse Guitar-Wielding Superteam |

HighwayMan DhD
Highwaymen
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Posted - 2008.12.08 18:33:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde
but at the end of the day, people can look at our kb/contract history
Your professional Killboards are STILL down.
I looked and saw some chick. is that you with a backpack full of whoop-ass?
I dont get it.
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
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Posted - 2008.12.08 19:02:00 -
[59]
Yep, it's me. Noir. is a hot-chicks club.
Hooray! KB can be temp viewed here: http://67.222.34.36/noir/killboard/ website: http://67.222.34.36/noir/noir/ ---
Zombie Apocalypse Guitar-Wielding Superteam |

HighwayMan DhD
Highwaymen
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Posted - 2008.12.08 19:15:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde Yep, it's me. Noir. is a hot-chicks club.
Hooray! KB can be temp viewed here: http://67.222.34.36/noir/killboard/ website: http://67.222.34.36/noir/noir/
your clicky doesnt work either...
copy and paste ftw tho.
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