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s4xon
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Posted - 2004.07.07 11:38:00 -
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OK, I will make this a short as possible.
I am sure i am not the only person in eve who has at some point been scammed by an insanely over-priced item on the market.. you buy it, you see the warning that pops up but are sure that all will be fine, only to find that you have paid millions for something which should only cost thousands.
I know I was stupid for not looking and i know i do not deserve any of my scammed money back, however it would be nice to see changes made that prevents this, lowest of the low, activity.
Recently ccp has implemented a warning when you buy somthing over the average price....well this quite simply won't help as many times you buy/sell things above average price.....what we are talking about here is when the price is not twice as much or even ten times....not even 100 times more than it should be...BUT 1000 times more expensive....
Could CCP not implement something which showed up all prices which were (say 100 times or more) higher than the average in red text in the market so you could see straight away that it was wrong, or maybe only warn you if it is ridiculously (x100 or so) priced...not every time it is above average because that breeds complacency...I mean i am sure we all at some point click on the microsoft warnings...are you sure etc etc..because we have seen it all b4..
This is a nasty problem which needs to be adressed in such a way that it is VERY difficult for the low lifes to get away with it.
PS i accept full stupidity credit for the 65 million i lost to these scammers but i am just trying to fix it for me and others in future.
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s4xon
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Posted - 2004.07.07 11:38:00 -
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OK, I will make this a short as possible.
I am sure i am not the only person in eve who has at some point been scammed by an insanely over-priced item on the market.. you buy it, you see the warning that pops up but are sure that all will be fine, only to find that you have paid millions for something which should only cost thousands.
I know I was stupid for not looking and i know i do not deserve any of my scammed money back, however it would be nice to see changes made that prevents this, lowest of the low, activity.
Recently ccp has implemented a warning when you buy somthing over the average price....well this quite simply won't help as many times you buy/sell things above average price.....what we are talking about here is when the price is not twice as much or even ten times....not even 100 times more than it should be...BUT 1000 times more expensive....
Could CCP not implement something which showed up all prices which were (say 100 times or more) higher than the average in red text in the market so you could see straight away that it was wrong, or maybe only warn you if it is ridiculously (x100 or so) priced...not every time it is above average because that breeds complacency...I mean i am sure we all at some point click on the microsoft warnings...are you sure etc etc..because we have seen it all b4..
This is a nasty problem which needs to be adressed in such a way that it is VERY difficult for the low lifes to get away with it.
PS i accept full stupidity credit for the 65 million i lost to these scammers but i am just trying to fix it for me and others in future.
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Speknek
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Posted - 2004.07.07 11:44:00 -
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You should always double check the price. Expecially when the newly added warning pops up. Its your own fault you got scammed.
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Speknek
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Posted - 2004.07.07 11:44:00 -
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You should always double check the price. Expecially when the newly added warning pops up. Its your own fault you got scammed.
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.07.07 11:46:00 -
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im way more conserned about all the useless scam crap that is in escrow
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.07.07 11:46:00 -
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im way more conserned about all the useless scam crap that is in escrow
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s4xon
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Posted - 2004.07.07 11:50:00 -
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I accept it's my fault, but what i dont accept is that CCP is doing or will do anything pro-active to prevent this. One warning on all above average prices is not going to do it imho... I know i am open to lots of post saying how stupid i was here...but thats exactly what i thought when a player i know did it...then two weeks later, late at night, just off to bed...just buy that skill quickly, ahh there is one in local, i will have that , look away 1 second and BAM!!!!! 65 million gone... trust me guys, yes i am stupid but it is much easier to do than you think....even if all this post does is act as a warning to the genuine players out there 
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s4xon
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Posted - 2004.07.07 11:50:00 -
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I accept it's my fault, but what i dont accept is that CCP is doing or will do anything pro-active to prevent this. One warning on all above average prices is not going to do it imho... I know i am open to lots of post saying how stupid i was here...but thats exactly what i thought when a player i know did it...then two weeks later, late at night, just off to bed...just buy that skill quickly, ahh there is one in local, i will have that , look away 1 second and BAM!!!!! 65 million gone... trust me guys, yes i am stupid but it is much easier to do than you think....even if all this post does is act as a warning to the genuine players out there
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Astrid Tron
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Posted - 2004.07.07 11:51:00 -
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If price is higher than average, and you know that 'cause you are warned, then check the price. If you are unsure of whether the price is right, dont buy. If you cannot wait or dont bother investigating, take your chances and dont complain if it was a mistake. You are making an informed choice.
What you are asking, is that you are spoonfed knowledge of the market. All you have to do is click the price ticker, and the highest prices will appear at the top/bottom (according to your preference). I am sure that you can isolate the 10x, 100x, 1000x higher prices quite quickly, when they are ordered according to amount.
The feature you are asking for is already there - you just have to make a minimal effort.
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Astrid Tron
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Posted - 2004.07.07 11:51:00 -
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If price is higher than average, and you know that 'cause you are warned, then check the price. If you are unsure of whether the price is right, dont buy. If you cannot wait or dont bother investigating, take your chances and dont complain if it was a mistake. You are making an informed choice.
What you are asking, is that you are spoonfed knowledge of the market. All you have to do is click the price ticker, and the highest prices will appear at the top/bottom (according to your preference). I am sure that you can isolate the 10x, 100x, 1000x higher prices quite quickly, when they are ordered according to amount.
The feature you are asking for is already there - you just have to make a minimal effort.
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Total PSA
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Posted - 2004.07.07 11:54:00 -
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Look this is a no brainer, scamming is part of life. They are loads of ways to avoid it and seeing as this is a game based personal interaction to remove scamming messes up the reality of the game.
If you get caught, unlucky as previosly stated it your fault for not checking things out enough. I find i all very funny and take the **** out of my friend daily for spending 10 million on a shuttle (LMFAO)
I don't do it myself but good luck to those that do, i am sure they will catch me out one day 
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Total PSA
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Posted - 2004.07.07 11:54:00 -
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Look this is a no brainer, scamming is part of life. They are loads of ways to avoid it and seeing as this is a game based personal interaction to remove scamming messes up the reality of the game.
If you get caught, unlucky as previosly stated it your fault for not checking things out enough. I find i all very funny and take the **** out of my friend daily for spending 10 million on a shuttle (LMFAO)
I don't do it myself but good luck to those that do, i am sure they will catch me out one day
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Omega Man
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Posted - 2004.07.07 11:56:00 -
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While I agree the market is a mess, it can be at least controlled by double checking and is useable.
Escrow on the other hand is so full of scams and rubbish it is becoming unusable in its current format. |
Omega Man
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Posted - 2004.07.07 11:56:00 -
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While I agree the market is a mess, it can be at least controlled by double checking and is useable.
Escrow on the other hand is so full of scams and rubbish it is becoming unusable in its current format. |
s4xon
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Posted - 2004.07.07 11:57:00 -
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Fair comment , well made Total 
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s4xon
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Posted - 2004.07.07 11:57:00 -
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Fair comment , well made Total
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2004.07.07 12:16:00 -
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would you go into HMV and buy a CD for ú200? no? theres no difference here except you didnt check prices and thus were ripped off, if your stupid enough to pay 65 million for something then its your own fault for having more money then sense, while i accept scamming is out of order especially to noobs but really who pays 65 mil for something without checking it first?
no sympathy mate, although i accept the tutorial needs to be improved so new people dont make silly purchases as the tutorial doesnt realy teach you how to search the market for the best deals, thats the only mistake i made and that was only a few 1000 isk so im not bothered.
Death to the Galante |
Jim Steele
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Posted - 2004.07.07 12:16:00 -
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would you go into HMV and buy a CD for ú200? no? theres no difference here except you didnt check prices and thus were ripped off, if your stupid enough to pay 65 million for something then its your own fault for having more money then sense, while i accept scamming is out of order especially to noobs but really who pays 65 mil for something without checking it first?
no sympathy mate, although i accept the tutorial needs to be improved so new people dont make silly purchases as the tutorial doesnt realy teach you how to search the market for the best deals, thats the only mistake i made and that was only a few 1000 isk so im not bothered.
Death to the Galante |
Von Schnopp
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Posted - 2004.07.07 12:24:00 -
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This is the price we get to pay for a perfectly free, unlimited, capitalistic market. I'm sorry about your loss but you said it yourself, one has to be extramely careful when shopping :)
"Dying for your corp is just stupid, make those other bastards die for theirs instead" |
Von Schnopp
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Posted - 2004.07.07 12:24:00 -
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This is the price we get to pay for a perfectly free, unlimited, capitalistic market. I'm sorry about your loss but you said it yourself, one has to be extramely careful when shopping :)
"Dying for your corp is just stupid, make those other bastards die for theirs instead" |
Monty Burns
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Posted - 2004.07.07 12:47:00 -
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hehehe
Was it 10 mil for a shuttle by any chance?
There are other reasons one might do this other than to scam people. Yes, I do it. I do it primarily because I can. I also only do it in my enemies space for three very good reasons:
1 - its 0.0, in the middle of a war zone so there should not be any n00bs.
2 - War is also based on economy. If I can deprive my enemy of the money to buy an equiped cruiser without risking anything then I will.
3 - My "friends" will always have a shuttle they can get to in there pods. Of course, being "friends" they will always get an immediate and FULL refund.
As you realise, you get warned. You not paying attention is CCP's issue? Nope.
Be lucky!
Darwin 4tw
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Monty Burns
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Posted - 2004.07.07 12:47:00 -
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hehehe
Was it 10 mil for a shuttle by any chance?
There are other reasons one might do this other than to scam people. Yes, I do it. I do it primarily because I can. I also only do it in my enemies space for three very good reasons:
1 - its 0.0, in the middle of a war zone so there should not be any n00bs.
2 - War is also based on economy. If I can deprive my enemy of the money to buy an equiped cruiser without risking anything then I will.
3 - My "friends" will always have a shuttle they can get to in there pods. Of course, being "friends" they will always get an immediate and FULL refund.
As you realise, you get warned. You not paying attention is CCP's issue? Nope.
Be lucky!
Darwin 4tw
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FoRGyL
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Posted - 2004.07.07 12:53:00 -
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1 word: Lazy!
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Ohhhh iyayaayaya puff ohh iyaayaya puff puff
PVR =Player vs Roid! Burr, scary peps!!! |
FoRGyL
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Posted - 2004.07.07 12:53:00 -
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1 word: Lazy!
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Ohhhh iyayaayaya puff ohh iyaayaya puff puff
PVR =Player vs Roid! Burr, scary peps!!! |
Voltex
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Posted - 2004.07.07 12:55:00 -
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If someone decides to sell say a shuttle for example for 10million, thats up to them there shud be no law against selling items at high prices. Its upt o the seller.
'Your 250mm Carbide completely misses Guristas Annihilator, Doing 0 damage'
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Voltex
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Posted - 2004.07.07 12:55:00 -
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If someone decides to sell say a shuttle for example for 10million, thats up to them there shud be no law against selling items at high prices. Its upt o the seller.
'Your 250mm Carbide completely misses Guristas Annihilator, Doing 0 damage'
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Speknek
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Posted - 2004.07.07 13:22:00 -
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You can always put almost all your money on an alt, to prevent you from buying things costing over 10 mil by accident 
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Speknek
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Posted - 2004.07.07 13:22:00 -
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You can always put almost all your money on an alt, to prevent you from buying things costing over 10 mil by accident
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John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2004.07.07 13:39:00 -
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I have to agree with the orginal poster and many others. I don't mind somone charging a high price like 5mill for a power diag ii system. I figure if i really want it I'll buy it. But what upsets me most is when you can put a shuttle on escrow for xx Millions and call it a battleship.
I'd like to see verything being sold on the market or ccp have a full time monitor for the escrow system. That person would just scan the escrow and delete fraudlent listings, this could be a job for some of the players that have been assigned as eve helpers as well.
Several months ago somone got me on escrow that reversed the market numbers as well. they put 1 for quantitly and 1 mill for price. I clicked on it thinking i could buy 1 mill trit for 1 isk each and since it was set to a quantity one i never got a confirm. So i endedup buying 1 trit for 1 mill To say I was ****ed i was, and of course I was in 10 system and i saw the sob in station and later undock.
-BT
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John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2004.07.07 13:39:00 -
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I have to agree with the orginal poster and many others. I don't mind somone charging a high price like 5mill for a power diag ii system. I figure if i really want it I'll buy it. But what upsets me most is when you can put a shuttle on escrow for xx Millions and call it a battleship.
I'd like to see verything being sold on the market or ccp have a full time monitor for the escrow system. That person would just scan the escrow and delete fraudlent listings, this could be a job for some of the players that have been assigned as eve helpers as well.
Several months ago somone got me on escrow that reversed the market numbers as well. they put 1 for quantitly and 1 mill for price. I clicked on it thinking i could buy 1 mill trit for 1 isk each and since it was set to a quantity one i never got a confirm. So i endedup buying 1 trit for 1 mill To say I was ****ed i was, and of course I was in 10 system and i saw the sob in station and later undock.
-BT
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