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Horatio Starkiller
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Posted - 2004.07.07 19:32:00 -
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I'm curious how the Amarr think this is a successful transfer... 10,000 successful transports with several thousand failures (so 2000-3000) this means that approximately 1/5th of the cathedral never made it.
I wouldn't be happy moving my house to find I'd left the roof behind. -----------
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Horatio Starkiller
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Posted - 2004.07.07 19:32:00 -
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I'm curious how the Amarr think this is a successful transfer... 10,000 successful transports with several thousand failures (so 2000-3000) this means that approximately 1/5th of the cathedral never made it.
I wouldn't be happy moving my house to find I'd left the roof behind. -----------
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Tess Durbeyfield
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Posted - 2004.07.07 21:10:00 -
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Well, you know what they're like - they'll probably say the roof ain't there 'coz their god wants them to worship in the rain to prove their faith or something...
These sacred stones are kinda nice though, I might see if I can use mine to build a barbecue  -------------------- "My dear, I'm going to have a pretty lonely walk between this and Kingdom Come. Won't you give me one kiss? It'll be something to keep off the darkness now and then."
Bram Stoker, Dracula |

Tess Durbeyfield
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Posted - 2004.07.07 21:10:00 -
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Well, you know what they're like - they'll probably say the roof ain't there 'coz their god wants them to worship in the rain to prove their faith or something...
These sacred stones are kinda nice though, I might see if I can use mine to build a barbecue  -------------------- "My dear, I'm going to have a pretty lonely walk between this and Kingdom Come. Won't you give me one kiss? It'll be something to keep off the darkness now and then."
Bram Stoker, Dracula |

Horatio Starkiller
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Posted - 2004.07.07 21:23:00 -
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I can provide rain in the following forms... thermal, kinetic, and explosive. -----------
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Horatio Starkiller
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Posted - 2004.07.07 21:23:00 -
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I can provide rain in the following forms... thermal, kinetic, and explosive. -----------
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Kal Cyann
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Posted - 2004.07.07 21:23:00 -
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BURN IT DOWN... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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Kal Cyann
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Posted - 2004.07.07 21:23:00 -
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BURN IT DOWN... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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Gaius Avarius
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Posted - 2004.07.07 21:37:00 -
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Edited by: Gaius Avarius on 07/07/2004 21:41:40 We are blessed with the knowledge how to reproduce a far more complex building: a human, including body and spirit. The process is called "cloning", I'm sure you have experience with it.
So do you blinded heathens really think something simple as a stone could be a problem? Of course every single stone of the cathedral is a holy relic and so it is an incredible sin to destroy it. Everybody who dared to do so will burn in eternal purgatory, that is inescapable.
Nevertheless the cathedral (I visited it more than once in the past) lay in ruins anyway and most of the stones had to be restored to reconstruct the whole building. The loss of the unsuccessful transports doesn't make much of a difference.
The traitors and barbarians who blemished their souls with the destruction of a sacred heritage are the only ones to lose in this clash.
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Gaius Avarius
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Posted - 2004.07.07 21:37:00 -
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Edited by: Gaius Avarius on 07/07/2004 21:41:40 We are blessed with the knowledge how to reproduce a far more complex building: a human, including body and spirit. The process is called "cloning", I'm sure you have experience with it.
So do you blinded heathens really think something simple as a stone could be a problem? Of course every single stone of the cathedral is a holy relic and so it is an incredible sin to destroy it. Everybody who dared to do so will burn in eternal purgatory, that is inescapable.
Nevertheless the cathedral (I visited it more than once in the past) lay in ruins anyway and most of the stones had to be restored to reconstruct the whole building. The loss of the unsuccessful transports doesn't make much of a difference.
The traitors and barbarians who blemished their souls with the destruction of a sacred heritage are the only ones to lose in this clash.
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Kalast Raven
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Posted - 2004.07.07 22:17:00 -
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Weren't the traitors and barbarians you speak of supporters of Catiz Tash-Murkon, Imperial Heir?
Forgive me if my knowledge of the Empire is incorrect, but I believe those seeking to prevent transit of the Cathedral were her agents... -------
K. Raven
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Kalast Raven
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Posted - 2004.07.07 22:17:00 -
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Weren't the traitors and barbarians you speak of supporters of Catiz Tash-Murkon, Imperial Heir?
Forgive me if my knowledge of the Empire is incorrect, but I believe those seeking to prevent transit of the Cathedral were her agents... -------
K. Raven
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2004.07.08 06:59:00 -
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Thats one thing I never fully understood about the Amarr...thier affinity for "Old" and "Dead" things.
If it was me...hypotheticly of course...I'd flatten a good portion of the Amarr homeworld that has structures and infrastructures older than 100 years. Then re-build something useful over the top, like a hyper-transport line. A personal vechicle factory, or maybe even a few dozen Agri-domes so affulent Amarr can walk thier slaves every morning and let the poor things out for a bit.
I cant begin to think of the money involed to transport ROCKS from one end of the Empire to the other...Good lord you folks need some instruction. -------------------------- Vist the Jericho Fraction Forums
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2004.07.08 06:59:00 -
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Thats one thing I never fully understood about the Amarr...thier affinity for "Old" and "Dead" things.
If it was me...hypotheticly of course...I'd flatten a good portion of the Amarr homeworld that has structures and infrastructures older than 100 years. Then re-build something useful over the top, like a hyper-transport line. A personal vechicle factory, or maybe even a few dozen Agri-domes so affulent Amarr can walk thier slaves every morning and let the poor things out for a bit.
I cant begin to think of the money involed to transport ROCKS from one end of the Empire to the other...Good lord you folks need some instruction. -------------------------- Vist the Jericho Fraction Forums
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Sammira
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Posted - 2004.07.08 07:30:00 -
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Well far be it from us to dictate to the Amarr about it, though your idea certainly does have merits Ly'sol. Certainly would improve the whole economic infrastructure of the planet. Perhaps if they tried it on a trial area, guaged income revenues then debated doing it over a larger area. It would work, the same ideas have on New Caldari certainly in the Husil and Teramochi Corporation disctricts.
Myself, I *think* I can understand why they're moving the cathedral after listening to some of my contacts speaking about it and asking questions of the Amarr parked along side my ship in the Kor-Azor station at Eclipticum. *shrugs* To be honest, I would have thought moving whole sections in stasis rigged zero-G haulers would have been more cost effective, as well as allowing for greater protection with more escorts on fewer transports. Ah well, certainly improved fuel sales.
Anyway, maybe it's a good thing that some of the bricks are gone. They can easily replace the bricks with modern synthetic composites that wil be stronger than the origonal. Might prevent damage such as happened before . . . hmmm. . . . I think I have contacts who might be able to supply casting chambers and poly-struct materials for next to cost . . . with a commisson of course.
I refer to the bestselling book "Morkt's Caldari Bible - 101 ways to be Caldari" - Chapter 9
Opportunity and instinct can always lead to profit, no matter the circumstances.
Drink StarsiÖ + [DS] Haulage Production Division Caldari State Citizen
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Sammira
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Posted - 2004.07.08 07:30:00 -
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Well far be it from us to dictate to the Amarr about it, though your idea certainly does have merits Ly'sol. Certainly would improve the whole economic infrastructure of the planet. Perhaps if they tried it on a trial area, guaged income revenues then debated doing it over a larger area. It would work, the same ideas have on New Caldari certainly in the Husil and Teramochi Corporation disctricts.
Myself, I *think* I can understand why they're moving the cathedral after listening to some of my contacts speaking about it and asking questions of the Amarr parked along side my ship in the Kor-Azor station at Eclipticum. *shrugs* To be honest, I would have thought moving whole sections in stasis rigged zero-G haulers would have been more cost effective, as well as allowing for greater protection with more escorts on fewer transports. Ah well, certainly improved fuel sales.
Anyway, maybe it's a good thing that some of the bricks are gone. They can easily replace the bricks with modern synthetic composites that wil be stronger than the origonal. Might prevent damage such as happened before . . . hmmm. . . . I think I have contacts who might be able to supply casting chambers and poly-struct materials for next to cost . . . with a commisson of course.
I refer to the bestselling book "Morkt's Caldari Bible - 101 ways to be Caldari" - Chapter 9
Opportunity and instinct can always lead to profit, no matter the circumstances.
Drink StarsiÖ + [DS] Haulage Production Division Caldari State Citizen
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Jim Hawkins
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Posted - 2004.07.08 08:37:00 -
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I'm no civil engineer - I'm a pilot, but if it were me, I'd make up for the shortfall by simply using a few new materials. Perhaps the stone could be gathered by quarrying a few insignificant mountain ranges on Pator. Given the proper ritual blessing, even this ungodly rock might be utilised in the service of all that is good and holy.
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Jim Hawkins
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Posted - 2004.07.08 08:37:00 -
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I'm no civil engineer - I'm a pilot, but if it were me, I'd make up for the shortfall by simply using a few new materials. Perhaps the stone could be gathered by quarrying a few insignificant mountain ranges on Pator. Given the proper ritual blessing, even this ungodly rock might be utilised in the service of all that is good and holy.
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Horatio Starkiller
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Posted - 2004.07.08 09:07:00 -
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So Jim your saying out of the vast Amarr empire the best materials you can find arn't in that empire but on Pator. Proves that the amarr don't have supieror everything. -----------
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Horatio Starkiller
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Posted - 2004.07.08 09:07:00 -
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So Jim your saying out of the vast Amarr empire the best materials you can find arn't in that empire but on Pator. Proves that the amarr don't have supieror everything. -----------
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Lorna Doone
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Posted - 2004.07.08 09:25:00 -
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What I find hilarious is that an empire that prides itself on its alleged technical superiority a) still needs to hack rocks out of the ground to use as building materials and b) believes that blessing them somehow makes them better rocks 
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Lorna Doone
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Posted - 2004.07.08 09:25:00 -
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What I find hilarious is that an empire that prides itself on its alleged technical superiority a) still needs to hack rocks out of the ground to use as building materials and b) believes that blessing them somehow makes them better rocks 
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Jim Hawkins
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Posted - 2004.07.08 09:26:00 -
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You're putting words into my mouth now Horatio. What I'm actually saying is this...
'If we are in need of stone, why take the resources from our own beautiful planets and incur all the negative environmental consequences of that, when we could simply take what we need from Pator where the potential negative impact of large scale quarrying does not matter?'
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Jim Hawkins
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Posted - 2004.07.08 09:26:00 -
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You're putting words into my mouth now Horatio. What I'm actually saying is this...
'If we are in need of stone, why take the resources from our own beautiful planets and incur all the negative environmental consequences of that, when we could simply take what we need from Pator where the potential negative impact of large scale quarrying does not matter?'
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Jim Hawkins
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Posted - 2004.07.08 09:29:00 -
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I guess slaves would actually do the quarrying Lorna.
And the stone would be for use in a Cathedral, it seems somehow appropriate to have them blessed.
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Jim Hawkins
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Posted - 2004.07.08 09:29:00 -
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I guess slaves would actually do the quarrying Lorna.
And the stone would be for use in a Cathedral, it seems somehow appropriate to have them blessed.
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Lorna Doone
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Posted - 2004.07.08 09:49:00 -
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Erm, if your god made all the planets, Pator included, won't (s)he be a tad miffed that you presume to know which ones matter and which don't? 
A far better solution would have been to simply swap the names of the Kor-Azor and Amarr systems, as I suggested before. Or, failing that, you could have got some building materials by dismantling that monstrous carbuncle that drifts outside one of the stations in Amarr 
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Lorna Doone
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Posted - 2004.07.08 09:49:00 -
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Erm, if your god made all the planets, Pator included, won't (s)he be a tad miffed that you presume to know which ones matter and which don't? 
A far better solution would have been to simply swap the names of the Kor-Azor and Amarr systems, as I suggested before. Or, failing that, you could have got some building materials by dismantling that monstrous carbuncle that drifts outside one of the stations in Amarr 
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Jim Hawkins
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Posted - 2004.07.08 10:02:00 -
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I'm sure he made all the planets for us to use however we see fit.
And as far as dismantling 'monstrous carbuncles that drift outside one of the stations in Amarr' goes, I'm assuming you're not referring to your ship? 
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Jim Hawkins
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Posted - 2004.07.08 10:02:00 -
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I'm sure he made all the planets for us to use however we see fit.
And as far as dismantling 'monstrous carbuncles that drift outside one of the stations in Amarr' goes, I'm assuming you're not referring to your ship? 
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