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Necrologic
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Posted - 2004.07.07 21:17:00 -
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are there any amarr cruisers that can match up to the thorax in firepower etc? i'm thinking it would hafta be maller or omen...can i get some opinons from amarr cruiser pilots? _______________________________________________________
Et nunc, reges, intelligite, erudimini, qui judicati terram. |

Necrologic
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Posted - 2004.07.07 21:17:00 -
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are there any amarr cruisers that can match up to the thorax in firepower etc? i'm thinking it would hafta be maller or omen...can i get some opinons from amarr cruiser pilots? _______________________________________________________
Et nunc, reges, intelligite, erudimini, qui judicati terram. |

Morrigan Illithan
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Posted - 2004.07.07 21:29:00 -
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Uhm this is personal, but no I don't think any Amarr cruiser can hold up to the thorax. if you used 5 250mm rails and heavy drones it would shred a Maller. I don't think the 5 lasers would be enough to combat.
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Morrigan Illithan
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Posted - 2004.07.07 21:29:00 -
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Uhm this is personal, but no I don't think any Amarr cruiser can hold up to the thorax. if you used 5 250mm rails and heavy drones it would shred a Maller. I don't think the 5 lasers would be enough to combat.
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Perry
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Posted - 2004.07.07 21:29:00 -
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To beat a Thorax you have to stay outside of the Drone-Control-Radius, eg 20km. The 250mm railguns do hurt but the defences are very weak if 4-5 250ers are fitted. Also an afterburner 10/100mn does help because the tracking of the 250ers is too low to keep up with you.
A good start would be to fit a 10mn AB and 5 Focused Medium Beams with a med-long range crystal. Armor-tank the low slots with platings and a med repairer. Remember you are dead if the Thorax has a mwd fittet.
So yes, Drones are overpowered, yes you have no chance, yes Thorax Dronespace should be nerfed, yes im whining, yes shut up. 
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Perry
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Posted - 2004.07.07 21:29:00 -
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To beat a Thorax you have to stay outside of the Drone-Control-Radius, eg 20km. The 250mm railguns do hurt but the defences are very weak if 4-5 250ers are fitted. Also an afterburner 10/100mn does help because the tracking of the 250ers is too low to keep up with you.
A good start would be to fit a 10mn AB and 5 Focused Medium Beams with a med-long range crystal. Armor-tank the low slots with platings and a med repairer. Remember you are dead if the Thorax has a mwd fittet.
So yes, Drones are overpowered, yes you have no chance, yes Thorax Dronespace should be nerfed, yes im whining, yes shut up. 
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Centauri
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Posted - 2004.07.07 22:00:00 -
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As an Amarr pilot (yes, yes, I know - I'm Minmatar) I can safely say that the Maller simply cannot compare to the Thorax. A well equipped Maller can use four heavy beams quite effectively, while tanking reasonably proficiently, but it still can't compete. Neither can any of the other races I believe.
It's not so much that most of the cruiser are poor - it's more a case of the Thorax simply being too good, and too adaptable. I fly a Thorax myself when and if the need for a cruiser arises. It just has too much going for it... Centauri,
Former Fleet Admiral of Star Control |

Centauri
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Posted - 2004.07.07 22:00:00 -
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As an Amarr pilot (yes, yes, I know - I'm Minmatar) I can safely say that the Maller simply cannot compare to the Thorax. A well equipped Maller can use four heavy beams quite effectively, while tanking reasonably proficiently, but it still can't compete. Neither can any of the other races I believe.
It's not so much that most of the cruiser are poor - it's more a case of the Thorax simply being too good, and too adaptable. I fly a Thorax myself when and if the need for a cruiser arises. It just has too much going for it... Centauri,
Former Fleet Admiral of Star Control |

Necrologic
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Posted - 2004.07.07 22:03:00 -
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ok, i'm gonna fly thorax then. thanks ppl _______________________________________________________
Et nunc, reges, intelligite, erudimini, qui judicati terram. |

Necrologic
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Posted - 2004.07.07 22:03:00 -
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ok, i'm gonna fly thorax then. thanks ppl _______________________________________________________
Et nunc, reges, intelligite, erudimini, qui judicati terram. |

Hardin
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Posted - 2004.07.07 22:16:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 07/07/2004 22:17:14
One of our pilots Jim Hawkins flying a Maller recently defeated a terrorist Minmatar in a Thorax.
Have toa dmit though that the Minmatar made a tactical mistake and warped in at long range - allowing Jim to serverly cripple the Thorax before its drones could be effective.
So it can be done - but only if luck is on your side...
Ar armour tanked Arbitrator however with some 1600 plate and a full bay of drones however could be an interesting battle 
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.07.07 22:16:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 07/07/2004 22:17:14
One of our pilots Jim Hawkins flying a Maller recently defeated a terrorist Minmatar in a Thorax.
Have toa dmit though that the Minmatar made a tactical mistake and warped in at long range - allowing Jim to serverly cripple the Thorax before its drones could be effective.
So it can be done - but only if luck is on your side...
Ar armour tanked Arbitrator however with some 1600 plate and a full bay of drones however could be an interesting battle 
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2004.07.07 23:08:00 -
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thorax = cruiser pwnage machine in the right hands
it's currently the best cruiser ingame, hands down -------------------
Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2004.07.07 23:08:00 -
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thorax = cruiser pwnage machine in the right hands
it's currently the best cruiser ingame, hands down -------------------
Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.08 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak thorax = cruiser pwnage machine in the right hands
it's currently the best cruiser ingame, hands down
I think the caracal is better. ................. |

Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.08 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak thorax = cruiser pwnage machine in the right hands
it's currently the best cruiser ingame, hands down
I think the caracal is better. ................. |

Grimpak
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Posted - 2004.07.08 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Cruz
Originally by: Grimpak thorax = cruiser pwnage machine in the right hands
it's currently the best cruiser ingame, hands down
I think the caracal is better.
...for specific jobs yes.. but the rax is an all-round cruiser wich lacks only missile slots, on the rest I belive that the thorax as a good performance. -------------------
Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2004.07.08 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Cruz
Originally by: Grimpak thorax = cruiser pwnage machine in the right hands
it's currently the best cruiser ingame, hands down
I think the caracal is better.
...for specific jobs yes.. but the rax is an all-round cruiser wich lacks only missile slots, on the rest I belive that the thorax as a good performance. -------------------
Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
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Shakul
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Posted - 2004.07.08 00:35:00 -
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i used to use a thorax for agent missions, but i found with 5x 250mm with iridium, shooting from 30k, i had a lot of difficult taking out the 90-110k rats, so i switched to a caracal. Was i using a bad setup? i thought short range thorax setups were only good for pvp. Auction your items for isk, works sort of like ebay. |

Shakul
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Posted - 2004.07.08 00:35:00 -
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i used to use a thorax for agent missions, but i found with 5x 250mm with iridium, shooting from 30k, i had a lot of difficult taking out the 90-110k rats, so i switched to a caracal. Was i using a bad setup? i thought short range thorax setups were only good for pvp. Auction your items for isk, works sort of like ebay. |

Svodairs
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Posted - 2004.07.08 00:49:00 -
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I use the thorax effectively at short range fighting npc's.
You other people who are whining, and want the thorax nerfed are pathetic, learn how to equip your ship yeesh.
You can beat a thorax easily if you actually study how the ship operates, and compensate for it. Screwing up the game is not an option.
Do your homework, and you'll find out that there are other cruisers that have more potential.
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Svodairs
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Posted - 2004.07.08 00:49:00 -
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I use the thorax effectively at short range fighting npc's.
You other people who are whining, and want the thorax nerfed are pathetic, learn how to equip your ship yeesh.
You can beat a thorax easily if you actually study how the ship operates, and compensate for it. Screwing up the game is not an option.
Do your homework, and you'll find out that there are other cruisers that have more potential.
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Idara
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Posted - 2004.07.08 00:51:00 -
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I use a Thorax pretty well. 5x 250mm's, 1 Med shield booster, 2x Cap Recharges, 4x RCU's, and a Mag field stab.
Does around 60-80 damage at 30km with Thorium ammo.
 Idara Section Leader - Security & Warfare Member of Metatron Incorporated |

Idara
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Posted - 2004.07.08 00:51:00 -
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I use a Thorax pretty well. 5x 250mm's, 1 Med shield booster, 2x Cap Recharges, 4x RCU's, and a Mag field stab.
Does around 60-80 damage at 30km with Thorium ammo.
 Idara Section Leader - Security & Warfare Member of Metatron Incorporated |

Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.08 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: Svodairs I use the thorax effectively at short range fighting npc's.
You other people who are whining, and want the thorax nerfed are pathetic, learn how to equip your ship yeesh.
You can beat a thorax easily if you actually study how the ship operates, and compensate for it. Screwing up the game is not an option.
Do your homework, and you'll find out that there are other cruisers that have more potential.
Who says we want a thorax nerfed, actually what I want is a larger PG for Amarr ships. ................. |

Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.08 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: Svodairs I use the thorax effectively at short range fighting npc's.
You other people who are whining, and want the thorax nerfed are pathetic, learn how to equip your ship yeesh.
You can beat a thorax easily if you actually study how the ship operates, and compensate for it. Screwing up the game is not an option.
Do your homework, and you'll find out that there are other cruisers that have more potential.
Who says we want a thorax nerfed, actually what I want is a larger PG for Amarr ships. ................. |

Idara
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Posted - 2004.07.08 00:54:00 -
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A PG boost is needed for all turret bound cruisers. Just as it happened with the Turret bound Battleships.
 Idara Section Leader - Security & Warfare Member of Metatron Incorporated |

Idara
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Posted - 2004.07.08 00:54:00 -
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A PG boost is needed for all turret bound cruisers. Just as it happened with the Turret bound Battleships.
 Idara Section Leader - Security & Warfare Member of Metatron Incorporated |

jamesw
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Posted - 2004.07.08 01:24:00 -
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Are you saing the Thorax needs a grid boost???? -- jamesw Rubra Libertas Militia
Originally by: RollinDutchMasters I fly a dominix, its like a portable blob in a can
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jamesw
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Posted - 2004.07.08 01:24:00 -
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Are you saing the Thorax needs a grid boost???? -- jamesw Rubra Libertas Militia
Originally by: RollinDutchMasters I fly a dominix, its like a portable blob in a can
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