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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.11.16 20:22:00 -
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"The ironically named "New Eden" of EvE Online is a crapsack galaxy. The Amarr are corrupt theocrats that rule 1/3 of the galaxy. The Minmatar not enslaved by the Amarr are too obsessed with vengeance to build their own infrastructure. The Caldari State is a soul-crushing society of Obstructive Bureaucrats, and the Gallente Federation is hopelessly corrupt. Millions of unseen, faceless ship crew are killed daily in the un-ending territorial wars fought by immortal, uncaring pod-pilots (the players). And this was before the empires went to war."
Taken from : Linkage
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Sniper Wolf18
Gallente Apocalypse Ponies H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2008.11.16 20:24:00 -
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Less starship pilots are being killed as caldari torpedoes hit for 5 damage each! |

Doctor Penguin
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.11.16 20:27:00 -
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EVE is part of a recent trend towards Dark Fantasy/Sci-Fi in game settings. EVE is supposed to be nihilistic and cruel - that is part if its charm! |

Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.11.16 20:46:00 -
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Once you've read the Warhammer 40k fluff, New Eden is a pretty nice place. ---
NEW MOVIE! CSM Campaign Thread |

Kur'Dekaija
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.11.16 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Once you've read the Warhammer 40k fluff, New Eden is a pretty nice place.
this!! :)
also millions dont die every day, some get out on escape pods.. its in the chronicles
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Arakidias
Murky Inc. Power Of 3
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Posted - 2008.11.16 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kur'Dekaija
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Once you've read the Warhammer 40k fluff, New Eden is a pretty nice place.
this!! :)
also millions dont die every day, some get out on escape pods.. its in the chronicles
Well, considering the number of ships destroyed every day it still probably numbers in millions.
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Helsir Qyrdun
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.11.16 22:42:00 -
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Still who cares?
Those mangy crewmembers deserve it if you ask me. Hell, drones are a higher class of citizen than them. |

Aeo IV
Amarr Xomic OmniCorporation
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Posted - 2008.11.16 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T "The ironically named "New Eden" of EvE Online is a crapsack galaxy. The Amarr are corrupt theocrats that rule 1/3 of the galaxy. The Minmatar not enslaved by the Amarr are too obsessed with vengeance to build their own infrastructure. The Caldari State is a soul-crushing society of Obstructive Bureaucrats, and the Gallente Federation is hopelessly corrupt. Millions of unseen, faceless ship crew are killed daily in the un-ending territorial wars fought by immortal, uncaring pod-pilots (the players). And this was before the empires went to war."
Taken from : Linkage
hahahaha
It's funny cause it's true.
"The Minmatar not enslaved by the Amarr are too obsessed with vengeance to build their own infrastructure."
Why build houses when you can build Battleships!
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Arvald
Caldari Ninjas N Pirates
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Posted - 2008.11.16 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Once you've read the Warhammer 40k fluff, New Eden is a pretty nice place.
cue exterminatus of jita 
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2008.11.16 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Once you've read the Warhammer 40k fluff, New Eden is a pretty nice place.
cue exterminatus of jita 
Any Battlefleet admiral would love to try out his Nova Cannon on Jita IV - 4s undock zone. 
But the posters are correct, compared to the Warhammer 40k universe, New Eden is a picknick, a bloody picknick but still a picknick.
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Mel Dareia
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Posted - 2008.11.16 22:58:00 -
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Quote: cue exterminatus of jita
Yeah. I mean, hell! Yeah!
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Black Plague.
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Posted - 2008.11.16 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kur'Dekaija
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Once you've read the Warhammer 40k fluff, New Eden is a pretty nice place.
this!! :)
also millions dont die every day, some get out on escape pods.. its in the chronicles
Assuming they can get to those escape pods from their location in the ship within 2 minutes. Otherwise millions die daily to insurance fraud alone.  |

Apollo Manton
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Posted - 2008.11.16 23:23:00 -
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I have wonderfull news about eve. The so called lag fix CREATED MORE LAG went out pvping tonight and guess what. No one could play. Seriously wtf this is horrible. |

Typhado3
Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.16 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kur'Dekaija
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Once you've read the Warhammer 40k fluff, New Eden is a pretty nice place.
this!! :)
also millions dont die every day, some get out on escape pods.. its in the chronicles
You let your targets get away in escape pods? I kill every building in the area and leave nothing behind. especially if fighting the amarr.
ccp fix mining agent missions % pls |

Daigo Sho
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Posted - 2008.11.16 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T "the Gallente Federation is hopelessly corrupt
You aren't even fit to spit-polish my Tristan. How I long for an end to the peace and a return to war. Your people's blood glimmers so beautifully on the hull of my ship.
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Slanty McGarglefist
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Posted - 2008.11.17 00:11:00 -
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My entire family was killed because the pod pilot ferrying them decided to jettison his whole cargo for laughs. |

Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.17 00:19:00 -
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What do agents in the Matrix and EA have in common? They both figured out nobody likes universes full of bright shiny colors.
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Luigi Thirty
Caldari 19th Star Logistics
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Posted - 2008.11.17 00:21:00 -
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It's almost as if Eve is populated by a bunch of psychopaths who like to explode people for no reason! ---- DOMINIX IS INVINCIBLEBLUE:(((( |

Khemul Zula
Amarr Black Plague.
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Posted - 2008.11.17 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Luigi Thirty It's almost as if Eve is populated by a bunch of psychopaths who like to explode people for no reason!
I have my reasons. Not saying they are good reasons...but they still count. |

Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.11.17 00:44:00 -
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The Gallente are the light of hope in the cluster tbh. At worst it is a failed implementation of a good idea; all the rest are failed implementations of bad ideas. |

Manivald Kostaja
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Posted - 2008.11.17 00:57:00 -
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I love abusing and beating slaves more than anything.
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FluterEx
Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2008.11.17 01:12:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Millions of unseen, faceless ship crew are killed daily in the un-ending territorial wars fought by immortal, uncaring pod-pilots (the players). And this was before the empires went to war."
If a ships Crew was properly implemented into this game i would probably take my time to actually take good care of my crew. ---------------------------------------
CCP Teara, we will all miss you. |

Oftherocks
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.11.17 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: FluterEx
Originally by: Akita T Millions of unseen, faceless ship crew are killed daily in the un-ending territorial wars fought by immortal, uncaring pod-pilots (the players). And this was before the empires went to war."
If a ships Crew was properly implemented into this game i would probably take my time to actually take good care of my crew.
Why? They are just minnie slaves |

Janu Hull
Caldari Terra Incognita Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.11.17 02:13:00 -
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He can believe that if he wants, but as I sit in corp chat tonight, sharing memories of a corp mate of ours who passed from cancer a week ago (we only found out this weekend), he can officially write his preconceptions on a piece of paper and shove them back up his arse lit on fire... |

Oftherocks
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.11.17 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Janu Hull He can believe that if he wants, but as I sit in corp chat tonight, sharing memories of a corp mate of ours who passed from cancer a week ago (we only found out this weekend), he can officially write his preconceptions on a piece of paper and shove them back up his arse lit on fire...
While I feel for you, your corp mates, and your former corp mates family, I don't think you read the OP correctly. Again, sorry for your loss. |

Kavin Alavandar
Gallente Extropy Dianoetics
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Posted - 2008.11.17 03:34:00 -
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Any setting that's not a crapsack isn't worth caring about, frankly. |

Janu Hull
Caldari Terra Incognita Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.11.17 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Oftherocks
Originally by: Janu Hull He can believe that if he wants, but as I sit in corp chat tonight, sharing memories of a corp mate of ours who passed from cancer a week ago (we only found out this weekend), he can officially write his preconceptions on a piece of paper and shove them back up his arse lit on fire...
While I feel for you, your corp mates, and your former corp mates family, I don't think you read the OP correctly. Again, sorry for your loss.
EVE certainly commands a lot more risk than most MMOs, but those links you do establish with people you're willing to turn your back on, the bonds are usually tight.
That was just my take on it. In the event of an emergency, my ego may be used as a floatation device.
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Aleria Angelis
Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2008.11.17 04:03:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T "The ironically named "New Eden" of EvE Online is a crapsack galaxy. The Amarr are corrupt theocrats that rule 1/3 of the galaxy. The Minmatar not enslaved by the Amarr are too obsessed with vengeance to build their own infrastructure. The Caldari State is a soul-crushing society of Obstructive Bureaucrats, and the Gallente Federation is hopelessly corrupt. Millions of unseen, faceless ship crew are killed daily in the un-ending territorial wars fought by immortal, uncaring pod-pilots (the players). And this was before the empires went to war."
This is why they invented pleasure hubs, the Galaxy would be a dark and dismal place if it werent for the *Gallente*
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Kavin Alavandar
Gallente Extropy Dianoetics
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Posted - 2008.11.17 04:10:00 -
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I actually only just came across this very article two days ago, and I wonder now as I did then: in what way is the Federation hopelessly corrupt? I can easily see it as slow to act and often having its priorities confused, but corruption isn't something I've perceived in the government beyond any current real-world democracy. Not exactly crapsack material, really.
If anyone can help me out, I'd actually appreciate it. I don't want to be too optimistic about the Federation. Being blindsided is no fun. _______________________________________________ 'The illiterate of this century are not those who cannot read and write; but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn.' |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.11.18 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kavin Alavandar in what way is the Federation hopelessly corrupt? [...] corruption isn't something I've perceived in the government beyond any current real-world democracy
Well, you kind of answered your own question there, didn't you ? (and by the way, it's "real-world republics", no country today is a "real democracy").
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Liberator 1
Gallente Remnants of the Flame
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Posted - 2008.11.18 09:22:00 -
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La, la, la. I'm not listening, /refreshes the water in the vases of flowers on his Rokhs dashboard, puts on some more whale music and composes a letter to his dear old Mum back in Gallente space. |

Tippia
Caldari Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2008.11.18 11:31:00 -
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Of course the Gallente are corrupt. I bribed them with a bunch of stolen dogtags and now they claim to be my bestest friends forevarr!1 |

Black Tahee1
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Posted - 2008.11.18 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn The Gallente are the light of hope in the cluster tbh. At worst it is a failed implementation of a good idea; all the rest are failed implementations of bad ideas.
Lols right they got french origin, no good idea's what so ever, just an epic failure in politics thats all. |

Chucky
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.18 13:38:00 -
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Jita has the best defense in the game, LAG!!!
... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture. |

Stitcher
Caldari Duty.
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Posted - 2008.11.18 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: Stitcher on 18/11/2008 13:52:04 Life on a small scale is probably no worse than life here on Earth right now. People have jobs, friends and family, entertainment. Some will be wealthier than others, and I daresay that for a large chunk of New Eden the living quality would more than qualify for "comfortably middle class" in a modern Western nation. For trillions of people, the wars, corruption and all that other nastiness will be a long, long way away - something to be seen on the news, but never experienced. Most likely, the only things distinguishing the lives of any two random civilians would be customs, architecture, and which retail chains they buy their food and consumer electronics from.
hell, even the majority of slaves probably don't get it that bad - food, shelter and family, and the only thing they need to do to secure tenure is work. |

Varrakk
Phantom Squad
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Posted - 2008.11.18 13:58:00 -
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I very much enjoy my stay in New Eden. My Nyx is very roomy, top of the line climate system and the light cycles aboard it is second to none. With the new hydroponics bays and a couple new kitches, the food has lately improved significantly.
I am constantly surrounded by people thats eager to obey me. You cant go wrong with blind obedience.
Life is good! |

Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2008.11.18 14:42:00 -
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sure... it's supposed to be dark, vast and depressing. but i still believe it's just an excuse for spoiled kids to go berserk on other kids' sandcastles and be proud about it. and since they're forbidden to leave the toilet seat open, behaving like a total **** here is the last straw of proving their masculinity. appearantly the target group is feasably large - putting the gist back into logistics |

Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.18 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
(and by the way, it's "real-world republics", no country today is a "real democracy").
Some alleged democracies are constitutional monarchies rather than republics.  |

Tippia
Caldari Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2008.11.18 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Akita T (and by the way, it's "real-world republics", no country today is a "real democracy").
Some alleged democracies are constitutional monarchies rather than republics. 
Also, don't confuse the two descriptive axes here — republic and democracy are not mutually exclusive.
Republic is the opposite of monarchy and the two sit on the axis that describes the head of state of the country: is (s)he elected or is the position hereditary.
Democracy is the opposite of dictatorship, and this pair describes who decides on the country's leadership: the people (through various mechanisms) or a single person.
Between the two, you can have any number of combinations: democratic republics, democratic monarchies, dictatorial republics, dictatorial monarchies, and combinations of the various shades inbetween. |

Janu Hull
Caldari Terra Incognita Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.11.18 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T (and by the way, it's "real-world republics", no country today is a "real democracy").
Pure democracy tends to get severely unwieldy beyond populations of one. Democracy in practice tends to be less about your individual voice than it is finding a group of people (the Party) that represents a best fit (aka compromise), with the occassional bout of individuality on matters that really get in your craw.
In that sense, democratic governments, despite appearing superficially undemocratic, are still considered such, because you, the individual, have the freedom to not tow the party line when it suits you. |

Andrea Erlang
Caldari Erlang Biolabs
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Posted - 2008.11.18 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Kavin Alavandar I actually only just came across this very article two days ago, and I wonder now as I did then: in what way is the Federation hopelessly corrupt? I can easily see it as slow to act and often having its priorities confused, but corruption isn't something I've perceived in the government beyond any current real-world democracy. Not exactly crapsack material, really.
If anyone can help me out, I'd actually appreciate it. I don't want to be too optimistic about the Federation. Being blindsided is no fun.
Methods of Torture - The Gallente
Yeah sure... They're corrupt face it. Or in the best case, ****ed up. Gallente are just as bad as the Caldari, except they pretend to smile. |

Malcanis
RuffRyders Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.18 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Roemy Schneider sure... it's supposed to be dark, vast and depressing. but i still believe it's just an excuse for spoiled kids to go berserk on other kids' sandcastles and be proud about it. and since they're forbidden to leave the toilet seat open, behaving like a total **** here is the last straw of proving their masculinity. appearantly the target group is feasably large
ITT: Internet psychology! |

Lysianna
Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.18 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: Lysianna on 18/11/2008 15:50:44 Corrupt perhaps but remember citizens of New Eden, we Gallenteans are the one that supplies the pron, escorts, cigarettes and any other derived product of pleasure. |
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