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Tani Yih
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Posted - 2004.07.08 11:33:00 -
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I've been playing EVE for about 4 months now and have stayed nice and safely inside 0.5 or higher. Do not worry, there is a reason. Because I know some of you are going to say, dare to life, risk a bit, carebear or whatever .. I'll give a brief explanation.
I work for a living. I have other things I have to attent. This means, unfortunately, there is limited time in which I can play and, importantly, make money to buy items or ships. 
I want to venture into 0.0 space (or a bit higher). But, I have no wish going up against masses of 10 million character skill point people. I wouldn't be able to match them equipment or skill wise. Instead, I am looking for alliances allowing safe passing through their territory. Either with some pass (ie: for ISK) or freely. This wouldn't make it safe...but a great deal safer.
Question: Which alliances have the infrastructure for this sort of thing, how many abide to them and how does one contact the needed alliance representatives?
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Tani Yih
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Posted - 2004.07.08 11:33:00 -
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I've been playing EVE for about 4 months now and have stayed nice and safely inside 0.5 or higher. Do not worry, there is a reason. Because I know some of you are going to say, dare to life, risk a bit, carebear or whatever .. I'll give a brief explanation.
I work for a living. I have other things I have to attent. This means, unfortunately, there is limited time in which I can play and, importantly, make money to buy items or ships. 
I want to venture into 0.0 space (or a bit higher). But, I have no wish going up against masses of 10 million character skill point people. I wouldn't be able to match them equipment or skill wise. Instead, I am looking for alliances allowing safe passing through their territory. Either with some pass (ie: for ISK) or freely. This wouldn't make it safe...but a great deal safer.
Question: Which alliances have the infrastructure for this sort of thing, how many abide to them and how does one contact the needed alliance representatives?
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Christopher Scott
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Posted - 2004.07.08 11:36:00 -
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The CFS alliance allows free passage within their territory. You can find members of CFS by reading the "Eve Corporations, Factions and Organizations HQ" forum. Try sending some of them an eve-mail or private convo in-game and they should help you out.
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Christopher Scott
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Posted - 2004.07.08 11:36:00 -
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The CFS alliance allows free passage within their territory. You can find members of CFS by reading the "Eve Corporations, Factions and Organizations HQ" forum. Try sending some of them an eve-mail or private convo in-game and they should help you out.
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Tani Yih
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Posted - 2004.07.08 11:39:00 -
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Free as in ...
A) Members of the coalition strictly do not attack others in the CFS unless hostile. B) Are free to attack whomever they like unless part of CFS
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Tani Yih
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Posted - 2004.07.08 11:39:00 -
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Free as in ...
A) Members of the coalition strictly do not attack others in the CFS unless hostile. B) Are free to attack whomever they like unless part of CFS
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Xziled
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Posted - 2004.07.08 11:40:00 -
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The CFS allows the querious region to be open to the public. Stations in querious are also open to the public. But be weary when passing into the querious region via A2-V27 because sometimes it is camped by pirate entities. make sure its empty or full of friends before passing through. stations in querious are in 9cg , 3bk and h74
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Xziled
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Posted - 2004.07.08 11:40:00 -
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The CFS allows the querious region to be open to the public. Stations in querious are also open to the public. But be weary when passing into the querious region via A2-V27 because sometimes it is camped by pirate entities. make sure its empty or full of friends before passing through. stations in querious are in 9cg , 3bk and h74
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Tani Yih
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Posted - 2004.07.08 11:49:00 -
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And passing deeper into CFS ...
requires:
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results in:
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Tani Yih
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Posted - 2004.07.08 11:49:00 -
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And passing deeper into CFS ...
requires:
...
results in:
...
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
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Posted - 2004.07.08 11:50:00 -
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I put my support in CFS too. My directors and CEO's have had very reliable dealings with them in the past, though the pirate rule must be watched. ~~~~~ Eve System > Channel changed to Kehour Local Channel
Concord Commodore > You have got to be the worst pirate I have ever heard of!
Mebrithiel Ju'wien > But you have heard of me! |

Mebrithiel Ju'wien
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Posted - 2004.07.08 11:50:00 -
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I put my support in CFS too. My directors and CEO's have had very reliable dealings with them in the past, though the pirate rule must be watched. ~~~~~ Eve System > Channel changed to Kehour Local Channel
Concord Commodore > You have got to be the worst pirate I have ever heard of!
Mebrithiel Ju'wien > But you have heard of me! |

DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.07.08 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tani Yih I've been playing EVE for about 4 months now and have stayed nice and safely inside 0.5 or higher. Do not worry, there is a reason. Because I know some of you are going to say, dare to life, risk a bit, carebear or whatever .. I'll give a brief explanation.
I work for a living. I have other things I have to attent. This means, unfortunately, there is limited time in which I can play and, importantly, make money to buy items or ships. 
I want to venture into 0.0 space (or a bit higher). But, I have no wish going up against masses of 10 million character skill point people. I wouldn't be able to match them equipment or skill wise. Instead, I am looking for alliances allowing safe passing through their territory. Either with some pass (ie: for ISK) or freely. This wouldn't make it safe...but a great deal safer.
Question: Which alliances have the infrastructure for this sort of thing, how many abide to them and how does one contact the needed alliance representatives?
Wow, i work for a living too... Maybe i should stop beeing part of an alliance and hug carebears in empire too.
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http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html |

DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.07.08 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tani Yih I've been playing EVE for about 4 months now and have stayed nice and safely inside 0.5 or higher. Do not worry, there is a reason. Because I know some of you are going to say, dare to life, risk a bit, carebear or whatever .. I'll give a brief explanation.
I work for a living. I have other things I have to attent. This means, unfortunately, there is limited time in which I can play and, importantly, make money to buy items or ships. 
I want to venture into 0.0 space (or a bit higher). But, I have no wish going up against masses of 10 million character skill point people. I wouldn't be able to match them equipment or skill wise. Instead, I am looking for alliances allowing safe passing through their territory. Either with some pass (ie: for ISK) or freely. This wouldn't make it safe...but a great deal safer.
Question: Which alliances have the infrastructure for this sort of thing, how many abide to them and how does one contact the needed alliance representatives?
Wow, i work for a living too... Maybe i should stop beeing part of an alliance and hug carebears in empire too.
__________________________
http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html |

Tani Yih
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Posted - 2004.07.08 12:37:00 -
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Quote: Wow, i work for a living too... Maybe i should stop beeing part of an alliance and hug carebears in empire too.
Did you try beyond reading the first four lines? Really, your reaction serves no purpose other then giving me a bump or possibly a deluded rise in your personal status.
You could try to move yourself to someone else' worries or mentalities. Like I said, I have more then EVE alone to attent and more then just work. And you're a lot more up to par with the higher skill point characters then me.
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Tani Yih
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Posted - 2004.07.08 12:37:00 -
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Quote: Wow, i work for a living too... Maybe i should stop beeing part of an alliance and hug carebears in empire too.
Did you try beyond reading the first four lines? Really, your reaction serves no purpose other then giving me a bump or possibly a deluded rise in your personal status.
You could try to move yourself to someone else' worries or mentalities. Like I said, I have more then EVE alone to attent and more then just work. And you're a lot more up to par with the higher skill point characters then me.
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Lucre
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Posted - 2004.07.08 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Tani Yih I want to venture into 0.0 space (or a bit higher). But, I have no wish going up against masses of 10 million character skill point people. I wouldn't be able to match them equipment or skill wise. Instead, I am looking for alliances allowing safe passing through their territory.
Is your objection to going up against veteran players or to joining an alliance corp? Because if it's just the former, many alliances (even those technically at war) will have vast areas where little PvP actually takes place.
And if you do want to operate in 0.0 then the infrastructure and friendly pilots of an alliance will be invaluable - joining their mining ops or hunting gangs, calling for help if you find spawns you can't deal with etc. Most of us don't hunt or mine solo any more, so nearby friends are good to have!
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Lucre
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Posted - 2004.07.08 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Tani Yih I want to venture into 0.0 space (or a bit higher). But, I have no wish going up against masses of 10 million character skill point people. I wouldn't be able to match them equipment or skill wise. Instead, I am looking for alliances allowing safe passing through their territory.
Is your objection to going up against veteran players or to joining an alliance corp? Because if it's just the former, many alliances (even those technically at war) will have vast areas where little PvP actually takes place.
And if you do want to operate in 0.0 then the infrastructure and friendly pilots of an alliance will be invaluable - joining their mining ops or hunting gangs, calling for help if you find spawns you can't deal with etc. Most of us don't hunt or mine solo any more, so nearby friends are good to have!
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Elfman
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Posted - 2004.07.08 12:58:00 -
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Edited by: Elfman on 08/07/2004 13:00:00 As a member of CFS yes CFS space is open as long as you obey the rules - Which are basically no pirates.
If your a non pirate then try to contact any CFS members before heading down as a2 corridor tends to be a hot bed of pirates and cfs fighting them.
Just check in with any CFS members before you go and they will give you a clear to go etc and let any CFS force in a2 know you are coming through.
Be warned that some rats do manage to get through and operate (mainly in frigs) up and down through querious)
:)
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Elfman
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Posted - 2004.07.08 12:58:00 -
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Edited by: Elfman on 08/07/2004 13:00:00 As a member of CFS yes CFS space is open as long as you obey the rules - Which are basically no pirates.
If your a non pirate then try to contact any CFS members before heading down as a2 corridor tends to be a hot bed of pirates and cfs fighting them.
Just check in with any CFS members before you go and they will give you a clear to go etc and let any CFS force in a2 know you are coming through.
Be warned that some rats do manage to get through and operate (mainly in frigs) up and down through querious)
:)
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.07.08 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tani Yih
Quote: Wow, i work for a living too... Maybe i should stop beeing part of an alliance and hug carebears in empire too.
Did you try beyond reading the first four lines? Really, your reaction serves no purpose other then giving me a bump or possibly a deluded rise in your personal status.
You could try to move yourself to someone else' worries or mentalities. Like I said, I have more then EVE alone to attent and more then just work. And you're a lot more up to par with the higher skill point characters then me.
What a complete retarded and short sighted remark, what has skillpoints to do with game time? Maybe if you learned on how to spend your playtime, you wouldn't be asking questions. __________________________
http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html |

DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.07.08 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tani Yih
Quote: Wow, i work for a living too... Maybe i should stop beeing part of an alliance and hug carebears in empire too.
Did you try beyond reading the first four lines? Really, your reaction serves no purpose other then giving me a bump or possibly a deluded rise in your personal status.
You could try to move yourself to someone else' worries or mentalities. Like I said, I have more then EVE alone to attent and more then just work. And you're a lot more up to par with the higher skill point characters then me.
What a complete retarded and short sighted remark, what has skillpoints to do with game time? Maybe if you learned on how to spend your playtime, you wouldn't be asking questions. __________________________
http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html |

Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.07.08 13:28:00 -
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Quote: 2004.04.24 18:02:20 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I hits Vipercw [EXDC], doing 1585.5 damage.
That would be a demoralizing first hit in 0.0 for any secure spacer 
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.07.08 13:28:00 -
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Quote: 2004.04.24 18:02:20 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I hits Vipercw [EXDC], doing 1585.5 damage.
That would be a demoralizing first hit in 0.0 for any secure spacer 
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Tani Yih
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Posted - 2004.07.08 13:28:00 -
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I'd like the members from CFS in explaining and providing and illustrating the various options to me.
My main problem is indeed going up against veteran players.
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What a complete retarded and short sighted remark, what has skillpoints to do with game time? Maybe if you learned on how to spend your playtime, you wouldn't be asking questions.
As for DreamWorks, perhaps I am short sighed. So I will try to illustrate my point with a short analogy. Prior to that though...
The best way through learning how to spend my playtime, or learning anything at all, is and remains a phenomenon called 'asking'. Which is something I've been doing. I have no desire to spend a lot of time trying to make fire when the ancient erectus in the next cave walks around with burning torches.
Drawing further on that, game time has a very important influence. You've had a great deal of time to learn a lot more. While I have learned the most amazing skills with my branch of wood as club and perhaps the capability of throwing stones, I'd like to minimize the chance of running into barbarians with 1400mm howitzers I can only dream of. I'd like to slowly grow and explore into this 0.0 and see if I appriciate it.
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Tani Yih
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Posted - 2004.07.08 13:28:00 -
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I'd like the members from CFS in explaining and providing and illustrating the various options to me.
My main problem is indeed going up against veteran players.
Quote:
What a complete retarded and short sighted remark, what has skillpoints to do with game time? Maybe if you learned on how to spend your playtime, you wouldn't be asking questions.
As for DreamWorks, perhaps I am short sighed. So I will try to illustrate my point with a short analogy. Prior to that though...
The best way through learning how to spend my playtime, or learning anything at all, is and remains a phenomenon called 'asking'. Which is something I've been doing. I have no desire to spend a lot of time trying to make fire when the ancient erectus in the next cave walks around with burning torches.
Drawing further on that, game time has a very important influence. You've had a great deal of time to learn a lot more. While I have learned the most amazing skills with my branch of wood as club and perhaps the capability of throwing stones, I'd like to minimize the chance of running into barbarians with 1400mm howitzers I can only dream of. I'd like to slowly grow and explore into this 0.0 and see if I appriciate it.
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SlightlyMad
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Posted - 2004.07.08 13:45:00 -
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There was an experiment going on where several alliances pledged to keep a couple of regions open to the public. Help keeping it clean from pirates and fight to keep it open if anyone moved in and wanted it for themselves. That was Pureblind/Tribute/Vale of silent.
For reasons long forgotten and not relevant any longer, war broke out and that vision will never happen in a long time.
Was a bit sad to be honest.
Pureblind is still full of locals and neutrals in the war. If you want to feel Pureblind out, you should go to "Torrinos" and chat with the locals. I'm sure they can help you navigate around there and help you explore. * -"You know, we play the "good guys" right? We kill pirates, griefers, retards and general subversive elements in the EVE-Community. To the rest, we are friendly and always prepared to help out. Peo |

SlightlyMad
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Posted - 2004.07.08 13:45:00 -
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There was an experiment going on where several alliances pledged to keep a couple of regions open to the public. Help keeping it clean from pirates and fight to keep it open if anyone moved in and wanted it for themselves. That was Pureblind/Tribute/Vale of silent.
For reasons long forgotten and not relevant any longer, war broke out and that vision will never happen in a long time.
Was a bit sad to be honest.
Pureblind is still full of locals and neutrals in the war. If you want to feel Pureblind out, you should go to "Torrinos" and chat with the locals. I'm sure they can help you navigate around there and help you explore. * -"You know, we play the "good guys" right? We kill pirates, griefers, retards and general subversive elements in the EVE-Community. To the rest, we are friendly and always prepared to help out. Peo |

chillz
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Posted - 2004.07.08 14:00:00 -
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Hmmm Querious?
I was kicked out of there by the Balck Avatar Boys. Very nice they were about it too. One even patted my shuttle.
Anyway they said it was all FA space now and no passes were available at the moment. ----------------------------------- A gun and a packet of sandwiches.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S Thompson
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chillz
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Posted - 2004.07.08 14:00:00 -
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Hmmm Querious?
I was kicked out of there by the Balck Avatar Boys. Very nice they were about it too. One even patted my shuttle.
Anyway they said it was all FA space now and no passes were available at the moment. ----------------------------------- A gun and a packet of sandwiches.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S Thompson
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