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Celebon
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Posted - 2004.07.08 14:10:00 -
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CFS space (the querious regions below khanid) is pretty much free space but that means it's a free for all. Be careful, watch out for roving bands of pirates and watch yourself at the choke points. However, the space is free for you to mine and NPC hunt. A great place to head into 0.0 and some great friendly people as well as hostile groups who will kill you. You don't need to contact anyone to enter this region
Fountain has a passport system 1 mill per day to enter and NPC hunt. There are a number of contacts for this system. To get your passport simply contact a FA member and they'll sort you out.
Most other 0.0 regions are pretty much war zones and very dangerous to enter or operate from and as they're at war, their space is closed. Avoid these areas as there are multiple sets of alliances who'll attack neutrals often enough.
Personally i'd say try out the querious regions to get used to 0.0, and PvP'ers in all weight classes (low SP frigate pilots up to the 12 mil SP BS pilots).
Drink StarsiÖ
Security Division
Caldari State Citizen
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Celebon
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Posted - 2004.07.08 14:10:00 -
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CFS space (the querious regions below khanid) is pretty much free space but that means it's a free for all. Be careful, watch out for roving bands of pirates and watch yourself at the choke points. However, the space is free for you to mine and NPC hunt. A great place to head into 0.0 and some great friendly people as well as hostile groups who will kill you. You don't need to contact anyone to enter this region
Fountain has a passport system 1 mill per day to enter and NPC hunt. There are a number of contacts for this system. To get your passport simply contact a FA member and they'll sort you out.
Most other 0.0 regions are pretty much war zones and very dangerous to enter or operate from and as they're at war, their space is closed. Avoid these areas as there are multiple sets of alliances who'll attack neutrals often enough.
Personally i'd say try out the querious regions to get used to 0.0, and PvP'ers in all weight classes (low SP frigate pilots up to the 12 mil SP BS pilots).
Drink StarsiÖ
Security Division
Caldari State Citizen
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pHASE 11
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Posted - 2004.07.08 14:16:00 -
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Pureblind is still full of locals and neutrals in the war. If you want to feel Pureblind out, you should go to "Torrinos" and chat with the locals. I'm sure they can help you navigate around there and help you explore.
Not the best of advice as EC have been camped by either side for the last weeks and some of the "locals" no longer are neutral.
You just had to go and inject som flaming & bitterness into a thread that had nothing to do with "the northern war"? Not enough posts to flame in the coporations forum today?
Advise to Tani: I can't believe you have waited 4 months to go into 0.0. Anyway, In the corporations forum there are info about alliances in the stickies.
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pHASE 11
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Posted - 2004.07.08 14:16:00 -
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Pureblind is still full of locals and neutrals in the war. If you want to feel Pureblind out, you should go to "Torrinos" and chat with the locals. I'm sure they can help you navigate around there and help you explore.
Not the best of advice as EC have been camped by either side for the last weeks and some of the "locals" no longer are neutral.
You just had to go and inject som flaming & bitterness into a thread that had nothing to do with "the northern war"? Not enough posts to flame in the coporations forum today?
Advise to Tani: I can't believe you have waited 4 months to go into 0.0. Anyway, In the corporations forum there are info about alliances in the stickies.
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Rhonstet
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Posted - 2004.07.08 14:29:00 -
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I'd point out that while many alliances can be friendly, one constant all alliances have is that they hate surprise visitors. Someone who just shows up in their space may be a pirate or an alt for a pirate: since pirates are never really honest about their intentions, most people will assume you are a pirate, and blockade/pursue you accordingly.
When you are alliance space, you are essentially a guest in someone's home.
Here is a handy survival list of what to do in any alliance's territory.
1) Contact members of that alliance BEFORE you visit. The corporate boards or an EVE-mail can both accomodate this. If you can't find anyone that is part of that alliance, make some noise in local when you show up and let the nearby watchdog know you need attention.
2) Do some homework about the space you are visiting. Does the alliance you want to visit have a reputation for xenophobia? Are they at war? Do they have policies on visiting miners or hunters? Some systems can sound ideal (EC-P8R), until you realize there is a war on.
3) Don't assume alliance space is perfectly safe. Rats get big in 0.0 space. Don't expect to AFK mine, and certainly don't expect to find guards to watch over you for free.
4) Always be ready to leave at a moment's notice.
5) Talking smack WILL get you killed, or at least camped. Being a guest in someone's home means showing respect.
6) Never show up in a 'newbie' corporation. If you want to go into alliance space that badly and you aren't in a player-run corp, ask if any corporations are hiring.
7) Insure. Your. Ship.
8) Unless you are hunting for something specific that you know is in that space, its not a bad idea to avoid 0.0 altogether and just hang around in 0.1-0.4. That can get you used to the larger rats gradually, and the ores are usually decent.
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Rhonstet
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Posted - 2004.07.08 14:29:00 -
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I'd point out that while many alliances can be friendly, one constant all alliances have is that they hate surprise visitors. Someone who just shows up in their space may be a pirate or an alt for a pirate: since pirates are never really honest about their intentions, most people will assume you are a pirate, and blockade/pursue you accordingly.
When you are alliance space, you are essentially a guest in someone's home.
Here is a handy survival list of what to do in any alliance's territory.
1) Contact members of that alliance BEFORE you visit. The corporate boards or an EVE-mail can both accomodate this. If you can't find anyone that is part of that alliance, make some noise in local when you show up and let the nearby watchdog know you need attention.
2) Do some homework about the space you are visiting. Does the alliance you want to visit have a reputation for xenophobia? Are they at war? Do they have policies on visiting miners or hunters? Some systems can sound ideal (EC-P8R), until you realize there is a war on.
3) Don't assume alliance space is perfectly safe. Rats get big in 0.0 space. Don't expect to AFK mine, and certainly don't expect to find guards to watch over you for free.
4) Always be ready to leave at a moment's notice.
5) Talking smack WILL get you killed, or at least camped. Being a guest in someone's home means showing respect.
6) Never show up in a 'newbie' corporation. If you want to go into alliance space that badly and you aren't in a player-run corp, ask if any corporations are hiring.
7) Insure. Your. Ship.
8) Unless you are hunting for something specific that you know is in that space, its not a bad idea to avoid 0.0 altogether and just hang around in 0.1-0.4. That can get you used to the larger rats gradually, and the ores are usually decent.
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Tani Yih
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Posted - 2004.07.08 14:47:00 -
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Advise to Tani: I can't believe you have waited 4 months to go into 0.0. Anyway, In the corporations forum there are info about alliances in the stickies.
Do you not agree that going into 0.4 or lower before now would definately have me almost immediately outclassed? So far I've been doing agent missions. But I'd like to do some more heavy rat hunting or perhaps mining.
As for joining a corp and the reason I'm still in the starter corp since four months. It's simple. I can contribute little to a corp and corps are biased towards certain alliances. I feel no hatred or dislike towards anyone.
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Tani Yih
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Posted - 2004.07.08 14:47:00 -
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Advise to Tani: I can't believe you have waited 4 months to go into 0.0. Anyway, In the corporations forum there are info about alliances in the stickies.
Do you not agree that going into 0.4 or lower before now would definately have me almost immediately outclassed? So far I've been doing agent missions. But I'd like to do some more heavy rat hunting or perhaps mining.
As for joining a corp and the reason I'm still in the starter corp since four months. It's simple. I can contribute little to a corp and corps are biased towards certain alliances. I feel no hatred or dislike towards anyone.
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loladoll
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Posted - 2004.07.08 15:02:00 -
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I have been playing this game for about a year now and havent visited 0,0 space a lot of times ( 2 or 3). Ihave a small one man cruiser/indy building corp/shipyard and i am starting to make some money.
I have sent alts into 0,0 space but is doesnt seem to be such a rich region : no labs, no factories and almost no cloning labs available.
I'm probably a carebear to the core. Or, i don't know enough to make a living in 0,0
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loladoll
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Posted - 2004.07.08 15:02:00 -
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I have been playing this game for about a year now and havent visited 0,0 space a lot of times ( 2 or 3). Ihave a small one man cruiser/indy building corp/shipyard and i am starting to make some money.
I have sent alts into 0,0 space but is doesnt seem to be such a rich region : no labs, no factories and almost no cloning labs available.
I'm probably a carebear to the core. Or, i don't know enough to make a living in 0,0
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Ukiah
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Posted - 2004.07.08 18:15:00 -
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There are only a few things that will get you killed by the loose confederation of corps that live in Querious
1) Being a known pirate, ie m00, Burn Eden, etc
2) Being a member of a CA
3) Being an unidentified n00b corp alt spy in A2.
Avoid the above and you'll be largely ignored. You have a clean slate. Engage in any 'pirate' like activities and you'll be quickly identified and dealt with appropriately.
Basically, Querious is everybody's sandbox unless you're a bully.
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Ukiah
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Posted - 2004.07.08 18:15:00 -
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There are only a few things that will get you killed by the loose confederation of corps that live in Querious
1) Being a known pirate, ie m00, Burn Eden, etc
2) Being a member of a CA
3) Being an unidentified n00b corp alt spy in A2.
Avoid the above and you'll be largely ignored. You have a clean slate. Engage in any 'pirate' like activities and you'll be quickly identified and dealt with appropriately.
Basically, Querious is everybody's sandbox unless you're a bully.
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Reiisha
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Posted - 2004.07.08 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: chillz
Hmmm Querious?
I was kicked out of there by the Balck Avatar Boys. Very nice they were about it too. One even patted my shuttle.
Anyway they said it was all FA space now and no passes were available at the moment.
BA is a merged corp of the old BA and Ominous Corp. Most members of the latter branch are rather hostile towards the CFS (though not with weapons... just a mentality).
Querious, Delve and Period Basis are free 0.0 land. They aren't CFS territory but CFS protectorate (huge difference). Maybe it's a bit inbetween lately, don't know...
And noob corps are generally kept out of 0.0 entirely. They don't (can't) have business there, or they are alts of an enemy.
Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming! |
Reiisha
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Posted - 2004.07.08 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: chillz
Hmmm Querious?
I was kicked out of there by the Balck Avatar Boys. Very nice they were about it too. One even patted my shuttle.
Anyway they said it was all FA space now and no passes were available at the moment.
BA is a merged corp of the old BA and Ominous Corp. Most members of the latter branch are rather hostile towards the CFS (though not with weapons... just a mentality).
Querious, Delve and Period Basis are free 0.0 land. They aren't CFS territory but CFS protectorate (huge difference). Maybe it's a bit inbetween lately, don't know...
And noob corps are generally kept out of 0.0 entirely. They don't (can't) have business there, or they are alts of an enemy.
Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming! |
Sphalerite
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Posted - 2004.07.08 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: chillz
I was kicked out of there by the Balck Avatar Boys. Very nice they were about it too. One even patted my shuttle.
Anyone in a noob corp flying a shuttle through 0.0 is asking for a quick trip home. Come back with a real ship and a real corp and you'll find your situation different.
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Anyway they said it was all FA space now and no passes were available at the moment.
I doubt anyone would have said that as it would be untrue. No passes are available or needed as the greater Querious area is public space.
Tani Yih, I would recommend you join a player run corp before you venture into 0.0. There are too many spy alts around for anyone thinking about security in 0.0 to not kill noob corps. If you don't have any corp in mind, I would suggest something like Freelancing Corp.
Once you're in a corp, I would recommend you try Querious if you're looking to poke around and don't mind dodging the occasional m0o, CA or local pirate.
If you don't want to mine, FA has passes available for 1M isk per day. There are some really nice serpentis rats there, and the security is generally tighter.
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Sphalerite
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Posted - 2004.07.08 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: chillz
I was kicked out of there by the Balck Avatar Boys. Very nice they were about it too. One even patted my shuttle.
Anyone in a noob corp flying a shuttle through 0.0 is asking for a quick trip home. Come back with a real ship and a real corp and you'll find your situation different.
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Anyway they said it was all FA space now and no passes were available at the moment.
I doubt anyone would have said that as it would be untrue. No passes are available or needed as the greater Querious area is public space.
Tani Yih, I would recommend you join a player run corp before you venture into 0.0. There are too many spy alts around for anyone thinking about security in 0.0 to not kill noob corps. If you don't have any corp in mind, I would suggest something like Freelancing Corp.
Once you're in a corp, I would recommend you try Querious if you're looking to poke around and don't mind dodging the occasional m0o, CA or local pirate.
If you don't want to mine, FA has passes available for 1M isk per day. There are some really nice serpentis rats there, and the security is generally tighter.
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Marcennis
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Posted - 2004.07.08 20:08:00 -
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Edited by: Marcennis on 08/07/2004 20:09:56
Someone already mentioned that you may want to contact the alliance you're visiting ahead of time. Not only to let them know you're coming, but to get info about current status of hotspots. That, and you being a noobcorp will make people nervous.
The CFS public front is http://cfs-eve.org/phpBB2/index.php']on this site[/url]. Stop by and post, then try to convo one of the council. The Senate is listed as well - someone's bound to be able to check the status of the Corridor (downwards from A2-) for you.
I'd try a fast frig first, then when you get some people on your contact list and they get used to you, something else, depending on what you're planning to do.
Good luck :)
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Mining & Transport - Logistics Division - Hadean Drive Yards
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Marcennis
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Posted - 2004.07.08 20:08:00 -
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Edited by: Marcennis on 08/07/2004 20:09:56
Someone already mentioned that you may want to contact the alliance you're visiting ahead of time. Not only to let them know you're coming, but to get info about current status of hotspots. That, and you being a noobcorp will make people nervous.
The CFS public front is http://cfs-eve.org/phpBB2/index.php']on this site[/url]. Stop by and post, then try to convo one of the council. The Senate is listed as well - someone's bound to be able to check the status of the Corridor (downwards from A2-) for you.
I'd try a fast frig first, then when you get some people on your contact list and they get used to you, something else, depending on what you're planning to do.
Good luck :)
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Mining & Transport - Logistics Division - Hadean Drive Yards
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2004.07.08 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: Hamatitio on 08/07/2004 20:18:38
Tribute is still free space. There shouldnt be anydocking fee or refine rate. yell if there is.
I spent a while in querious in Caldari Provisions if your nice in a newb corp and not spy you wont get killed :). Helped BA defend stations and what not.
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2004.07.08 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: Hamatitio on 08/07/2004 20:18:38
Tribute is still free space. There shouldnt be anydocking fee or refine rate. yell if there is.
I spent a while in querious in Caldari Provisions if your nice in a newb corp and not spy you wont get killed :). Helped BA defend stations and what not.
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Death Row Inc. |
Del Narveux
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Posted - 2004.07.08 20:19:00 -
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Yeah, if in doubt, get a frig with MWD or 10MN AB. Its what I do when I feel like annoying the local alliance. 
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Del Narveux
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Posted - 2004.07.08 20:19:00 -
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Yeah, if in doubt, get a frig with MWD or 10MN AB. Its what I do when I feel like annoying the local alliance.
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Mechanix
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Posted - 2004.07.08 21:31:00 -
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Good advice Rhonstet
Originally by: loladoll
I have been playing this game for about a year now and havent visited 0,0 space a lot of times ( 2 or 3). Ihave a small one man cruiser/indy building corp/shipyard and i am starting to make some money.
I have sent alts into 0,0 space but is doesnt seem to be such a rich region : no labs, no factories and almost no cloning labs available.
I'm probably a carebear to the core. Or, i don't know enough to make a living in 0,0
You need to have people working with you. If you have crokite one jump from a refining
station, a mining op should be able to take in at least 3500 zydrine per person per hour. Do that for a year and you should start to make some money.
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Tribute is still free space. There shouldnt be anydocking fee or refine rate. yell if there is.
Tribute is back in the correct hands
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Mechanix
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Posted - 2004.07.08 21:31:00 -
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Good advice Rhonstet
Originally by: loladoll
I have been playing this game for about a year now and havent visited 0,0 space a lot of times ( 2 or 3). Ihave a small one man cruiser/indy building corp/shipyard and i am starting to make some money.
I have sent alts into 0,0 space but is doesnt seem to be such a rich region : no labs, no factories and almost no cloning labs available.
I'm probably a carebear to the core. Or, i don't know enough to make a living in 0,0
You need to have people working with you. If you have crokite one jump from a refining
station, a mining op should be able to take in at least 3500 zydrine per person per hour. Do that for a year and you should start to make some money.
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Tribute is still free space. There shouldnt be anydocking fee or refine rate. yell if there is.
Tribute is back in the correct hands
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.07.08 21:45:00 -
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To the orig poster.
You want to go to 0.0. Why? I mean, to npc hunt? Pirate? Mine? Explore? Easier to point you in the right direction if your intentions are known. Take FA for example. They offer a npc hunting pass for 1mill isk per day, which you can make back in like... oh, 5min. If they catch u mining though, I am sure they would get you unaquainted with your ship. CFS, is open to all, but you bear more risk dealing with pirates and the like.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.07.08 21:45:00 -
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To the orig poster.
You want to go to 0.0. Why? I mean, to npc hunt? Pirate? Mine? Explore? Easier to point you in the right direction if your intentions are known. Take FA for example. They offer a npc hunting pass for 1mill isk per day, which you can make back in like... oh, 5min. If they catch u mining though, I am sure they would get you unaquainted with your ship. CFS, is open to all, but you bear more risk dealing with pirates and the like.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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