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Hercules Soban	Posted - 2008.11.20 09:00:00 - [1] Hey player don't always blame CCP about that!! Use your brain a little bit!Firtsly if you PC has 1GB of RAM memory then you should stop playing EvE in this computer!To your info: 1) as i am a programmers friend, Vista consumes 700MB out of 1GB RAM memory! this causes the pc to run slowly(especially in fleet battles)! 2) your PC may not be of the best there are nowadays 3) since EvE online is MMO you are constantly online. As a result the pc may automatically start downloading updates, so as for the antivirus! 4) a virus may have passed through your antivirus and caused system damage 5) the antivirus may have started an automatic scan 6) your RAM may be broken/corrupted(do a system scan before the pc runs the windows when turned on to find out)your graphics card may be outdated! 7) turn off all the effects Don't always haste and blame CCP!
Miss Rumpelstilzchen Minmatar Black Horizon Ltd	Posted - 2008.11.20 10:13:00 - [2] there is a different between Serverlag and Computerlag. yes for fleetfights you have to turn off all you effects, to lower the amount of grafik that your computer have to load. but if your flying in empier or your a missioncarebare,you can turn on all effects and run your client in premium grafik, and there shouldt be any kind of "Computerlag". atm there is a BIG proplem with the code from EvE, i think u read all the perfomance threads, or? (jump 30+ and your computer lags as hell)

CCP Applebabe	Posted - 2008.11.20 10:26:00 - [3] Moved to " General Discussion " forum. Applebabe Community Representative CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang

Banana Torres Look Ma I did a Test	Posted - 2008.11.20 10:32:00 - [4] Hi, I've got 4G DDR3 RAM, twin GX2s, effects turned off, anti virus from Kapersky. normally I have no lag. But when I get into a big fight I have lag. Can you give me some ideas on how to fix the lag in the fights. Or can you stop speaking out of your arse, whichever is easier.
Krets Gallente 7ulm Saif Niobe Industrial Inc.	Posted - 2008.11.20 11:03:00 - [5] posting in capitals so gets your message across, but better.
Helox Gallente Demonic Retribution G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.11.20 11:03:00 - [6] Originally by: Hercules Soban Hey player don't always blame CCP about that!! Use your brain a little bit!Firtsly if you PC has 1GB of RAM memory then you should stop playing EvE in this computer!To your info: 1) as i am a programmers friend, Vista consumes 700MB out of 1GB RAM memory! this causes the pc to run slowly(especially in fleet battles)! 2) your PC may not be of the best there are nowadays 3) since EvE online is MMO you are constantly online. As a result the pc may automatically start downloading updates, so as for the antivirus! 4) a virus may have passed through your antivirus and caused system damage 5) the antivirus may have started an automatic scan 6) your RAM may be broken/corrupted(do a system scan before the pc runs the windows when turned on to find out)your graphics card may be outdated! 7) turn off all the effects Don't always haste and blame CCP! OMGOMG! There can also be pudding in your processor, and electrones travel slower through pudding than normal air. And everyone knows that megahurtz are beeing absorbed by pudding, causing you to lose precious CPU cycles! Seriously though, with 512Mb memory, a 6600GT and windows XP with classic Eve client, this game is still playable without massive lag. Stop talking bull**** if you don't know what you are talking about.
Sedteis	Posted - 2008.11.20 11:10:00 - [7] Originally by: Hercules Soban Hey player don't always blame CCP about that!! Use your brain a little bit!Firtsly if you PC has 1GB of RAM memory then you should stop playing EvE in this computer!To your info: 1) as i am a programmers friend, Vista consumes 700MB out of 1GB RAM memory! this causes the pc to run slowly(especially in fleet battles)! 2) your PC may not be of the best there are nowadays 3) since EvE online is MMO you are constantly online. As a result the pc may automatically start downloading updates, so as for the antivirus! 4) a virus may have passed through your antivirus and caused system damage 5) the antivirus may have started an automatic scan 6) your RAM may be broken/corrupted(do a system scan before the pc runs the windows when turned on to find out)your graphics card may be outdated! 7) turn off all the effects Don't always haste and blame CCP! You forgot 8) The enemy fc has hacked eve and pressed the "Lag enemy Fleet" button
Squably Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.11.20 11:12:00 - [8] Originally by: Hercules Soban 1) as i am a programmers friend, Vista consumes 700MB out of 1GB RAM memory! this causes the pc to run slowly(especially in fleet battles)! Lol so you have no clue wtf you are talking about, because a friend of mine is a surgeon doesnt mean i know about heart surgery now does it. And before QR there was no lag so STFU until you really know what you are talking about.
Zaknussem Caldari Intrum Industria	Posted - 2008.11.20 11:18:00 - [9] Edited by: Zaknussem on 20/11/2008 11:18:54 Originally by: Hercules Soban Firtsly if you PC has 1GB of RAM memory then you should stop playing EvE in this computer! I have over 3 Gigs of RAM, FYI. Quote: 1) as i am a programmers friend, Vista consumes 700MB out of 1GB RAM memory! this causes the pc to run slowly(especially in fleet battles)! I use Windows XP, a simpler, less resource-demanding OS than Vista. ATM it uses less than 10% of the total RAM available. EvE then doubles that amount. Explain to me then, why roughly 2.5 Gigs of RAM are incapapble of preventing lag. Quote: 2) your PC may not be of the best there are nowadays True, but I've yet to encounter any piece of software that my PC can't handle due to lack of processing power. Quote: 3) since EvE online is MMO you are constantly online. As a result the pc may automatically start downloading updates, so as for the antivirus! I decide when my computer downloads updates, not my computer. It took some doing, but it was worth it. Quote: 4) a virus may have passed through your antivirus and caused system damage If a virus managed to inflict system damage on my computer, I would know because I would not be able to run EvE at all. Quote: 5) the antivirus may have started an automatic scan I took care of this as well. See point 3. Quote: 6) your RAM may be broken/corrupted(do a system scan before the pc runs the windows when turned on to find out) See point 4. Quote: your graphics card may be outdated! 7) turn off all the effects Finally, something that may actually help me...except I already tried this last weekend. And no, it didn't work. Classic EvE lags just as much. My graphics card isn't the latest overpriced circuit board to hit the retail shelves, but it isn't made of cardboard either. It gets the job done, even in more graphics-intensive online games than EvE. Quote: Don't always haste and blame CCP! My blames towards CCP in regards to the post-QR lag are founded in careful consideration and observation. I also take the time to check my spelling and ensure that I am using proper grammar when making any (counter)point here. No, English isn't my first language, but I still make the effort. Note that my blames towards CCP in regards to the above are not of the "CCP SUXX0RZ!!!" kind, despite the matter of the QA department failing to notice that QR actually performed worse than Stackless IO-enabled Empyrean Age did...actually, Stackless IO-disabled Empyrean Age overall performed better than QR does right now, but I digress. My point is that you're trying to shift the blame from CCP to the players, using points that assume we're dumb as bricks because we're all using Vista. I, for one, just proved to you that the blame does not sit with me...so where else does it sit than with CCP?
Max Leadfoot Murky Inc.	Posted - 2008.11.20 11:30:00 - [10] Originally by: Zaknussem Edited by: Zaknussem on 20/11/2008 11:18:54 Originally by: Hercules Soban Firtsly if you PC has 1GB of RAM memory then you should stop playing EvE in this computer! I have over 3 Gigs of RAM, FYI. Quote: 1) as i am a programmers friend, Vista consumes 700MB out of 1GB RAM memory! this causes the pc to run slowly(especially in fleet battles)! I use Windows XP, a simpler, less resource-demanding OS than Vista. ATM it uses less than 10% of the total RAM available. EvE then doubles that amount. Explain to me then, why roughly 2.5 Gigs of RAM are incapapble of preventing lag. Quote: 2) your PC may not be of the best there are nowadays True, but I've yet to encounter any piece of software that my PC can't handle due to lack of processing power. Quote: 3) since EvE online is MMO you are constantly online. As a result the pc may automatically start downloading updates, so as for the antivirus! I decide when my computer downloads updates, not my computer. It took some doing, but it was worth it. Quote: 4) a virus may have passed through your antivirus and caused system damage If a virus managed to inflict system damage on my computer, I would know because I would not be able to run EvE at all. Quote: 5) the antivirus may have started an automatic scan I took care of this as well. See point 3. Quote: 6) your RAM may be broken/corrupted(do a system scan before the pc runs the windows when turned on to find out) See point 4. Quote: your graphics card may be outdated! 7) turn off all the effects Finally, something that may actually help me...except I already tried this last weekend. And no, it didn't work. Classic EvE lags just as much. My graphics card isn't the latest overpriced circuit board to hit the retail shelves, but it isn't made of cardboard either. It gets the job done, even in more graphics-intensive online games than EvE. Quote: Don't always haste and blame CCP! My blames towards CCP in regards to the post-QR lag are founded in careful consideration and observation. I also take the time to check my spelling and ensure that I am using proper grammar when making any (counter)point here. No, English isn't my first language, but I still make the effort. Note that my blames towards CCP in regards to the above are not of the "CCP SUXX0RZ!!!" kind, despite the matter of the QA department failing to notice that QR actually performed worse than Stackless IO-enabled Empyrean Age did...actually, Stackless IO-disabled Empyrean Age overall performed better than QR does right now, but I digress. My point is that you're trying to shift the blame from CCP to the players, using points that assume we're dumb as bricks because we're all using Vista. I, for one, just proved to you that the blame does not sit with me...so where else does it sit than with CCP? Before insulting someone else for their grammar I would suggest you to check yours...
Berious Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.11.20 11:30:00 - [11] Thanks bro I'll stop all my pron torrents before getting in a fleet fight from now on you've really opened my eyes
Murk Loar Polytope	Posted - 2008.11.20 12:33:00 - [12] Originally by: Berious Thanks bro I'll stop all my pron torrents before getting in a fleet fight from now on you've really opened my eyes Aww man...but Bella Donna's new one is only 61% down =(
Furious Hawk Farlight Council Elitist Cowards	Posted - 2008.11.20 12:48:00 - [13] Edited by: Furious Hawk on 20/11/2008 12:49:03 Originally by: Hercules Soban Hey player don't always blame CCP about that!! Use your brain a little bit!Firtsly if you PC has 1GB of RAM memory then you should stop playing EvE in this computer!To your info: 1) as i am a programmers friend, Vista consumes 700MB out of 1GB RAM memory! this causes the pc to run slowly(especially in fleet battles)! 2) your PC may not be of the best there are nowadays 3) since EvE online is MMO you are constantly online. As a result the pc may automatically start downloading updates, so as for the antivirus! 4) a virus may have passed through your antivirus and caused system damage 5) the antivirus may have started an automatic scan 6) your RAM may be broken/corrupted(do a system scan before the pc runs the windows when turned on to find out)your graphics card may be outdated! 7) turn off all the effects Don't always haste and blame CCP! A programmers friend? Wow, you are very qualified to tell me what I'm doing wrong, excellent start to the thread!
D'Mur Pilru	Posted - 2008.11.20 13:30:00 - [14] Originally by: Hercules Soban 1) as i am a programmers friend, Vista consumes 700MB out of 1GB RAM memory! this causes the pc to run slowly(especially in fleet battles)! Well, I am a computer programmer, and therefore I declare your post to be the biggest pile of nonsensical nonsens ever. It's the computer users equivalent of 'here be dragons' when talking about 'how stuff works'. 'as i am a programmers friend'...you really made my day
Daevonar Minmatar Starfish Operating Syndicate	Posted - 2008.11.20 13:45:00 - [15] I'd love to take you seriously (actualyl maybe not) but with comments like this "as i am a programmers friend, Vista consumes 700MB out of 1GB RAM memory!" I just can't. Vista uses spare RAM when it is available for other tasks... it may report as using a lot, but that ram is still free and available for other apps to use. You really need to investigate things yourself before taking other peoples word for it. Dae.
Sovereign533 Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.11.20 13:46:00 - [16] insert random flame
Seishi Maru Infinity Enterprises Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.20 14:13:00 - [17] CCp developers themselves more than once said most of time the issues are on SERVER side. Eve is not network heavy. Even a 100 kbps connection is MORE than you need. Most people play with 1 MB or more connections. Most people have more than 2 times free memory than is needed. And most have at least 1 full core of their machine idle when playing game. 9 in 10 cases the issue is NOT on the client computer. When game was going ok and a patch makes it go #@#! then you may be sure that the thing to blame is NOT the users.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2008.11.20 16:18:00 - [18] Originally by: Hercules Soban Hey player don't always blame CCP about that!! Use your brain a little bit!Firtsly if you PC has 1GB of RAM memory then you should stop playing EvE in this computer!To your info: 1) as i am a programmers friend, Vista consumes 700MB out of 1GB RAM memory! this causes the pc to run slowly(especially in fleet battles)! 2) your PC may not be of the best there are nowadays 3) since EvE online is MMO you are constantly online. As a result the pc may automatically start downloading updates, so as for the antivirus! 4) a virus may have passed through your antivirus and caused system damage 5) the antivirus may have started an automatic scan 6) your RAM may be broken/corrupted(do a system scan before the pc runs the windows when turned on to find out)your graphics card may be outdated! 7) turn off all the effects Don't always haste and blame CCP! soyou have a programmer friend and cause of this your vista uses 700mb of 1 gig of ram? i'd sack your friend personally.
Minny Sky	Posted - 2008.11.20 16:23:00 - [19] Edited by: Minny Sky on 20/11/2008 16:25:55 Originally by: Sovereign533 insert random flame Insert random counter flame also, lol ---------------------------- OP makes a valid point. I personally think that its great when people do not do as much as they can to reduce lag. I love loading faster and shooting them in the face. Also, there is a general issue with lag since the last patch. As far as that is concerned, it is not our fault. CCP needs to deal with it.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.11.20 16:24:00 - [20] OK I WONT
Arran Chace	Posted - 2008.11.20 16:46:00 - [21] Originally by: Hercules Soban Hey player don't always blame CCP about that!! Use your brain a little bit!Firtsly if you PC has 1GB of RAM memory then you should stop playing EvE in this computer!To your info: 1) as i am a programmers friend, Vista consumes 700MB out of 1GB RAM memory! this causes the pc to run slowly(especially in fleet battles)! I have 4 GB of ram, thank you Can run easely 4 clients at once, with each holding 80-100 FPS in normal circumstances Quote: 2) your PC may not be of the best there are nowadays I guess my Quadcore Q6600 2.5 GhZ is heavely allready outdated. Quote: 3) since EvE online is MMO you are constantly online. As a result the pc may automatically start downloading updates, so as for the antivirus! Yup as soon i enter a fleet battle, my starts too update everything, and its finshed after the battle.. Sure, ofcourse, i never thought of that.. Quote: 4) a virus may have passed through your antivirus and caused system damage That must be it, a virus specially tailored for EvE and activates when in a fleet battle.. Since no other game seems too have troubles with it... Even games that uses alot more Bandwith and resources on my PC as EvE does.. Yup, that much be the cause of my lag in fleetbattles.... Quote: 5) the antivirus may have started an automatic scan Yeah right, my scanner is scans allways in fleetbattles, without any HD activity... Quote: 6) your RAM may be broken/corrupted(do a system scan before the pc runs the windows when turned on to find out)your graphics card may be outdated! Yup, it my outdated 9800Gx2 SLI card thats the problem... its allready 6 months old after its release, and idd, Nvidia launched a followup card thats now the fastest card available.. EvE indead needs the most advanced card out there, too run without lag.. Quote: 7) turn off all the effects That must be it, my PC that can run a single EvE client with 280 FPS anywhere as long there aint a huge fleet battle going on, and crubles too 14 to 40 seconds delay with still 280FSP on the counter, can run games like Fallout3, Farcry2 on ultra high settings without even loosing hardly any FPS, isnt capable of running a few huge + marks in my screen that represent a ship, while fully animated characters and heavely meshed up maps still run flawless.. Quote: Don't always haste and blame CCP! I dont blame in haste... I do know EvE has a issue, and i do know, you know .... bout PC's or my issue and just rambling utter BS here.. Furthermore, your a friend of a programmer, i'm a Networking specialist, and i KNOW they have a problem that isnt easy solved nor located, best way too find the issue is experimenting, testing and read feedback from users hoping too localize the problem.. I dont need a rocketscientist next to me, too imagine the Clusterpark CCP has running for EvE, and i easely can imagine the nightmare it is too maintain it.. I dont need, nor CCP needs, is some n00b telling its the players fault and its my PC that is broken.. Thank you, for the useless comments that are easely contradicted by anyone with half a clue bout Networking and programming I think i know a bit more bout my System, and what CCP is doing as you do, if i read your post..
Plim Gallente Oursulaert Technology Institute	Posted - 2008.11.20 16:54:00 - [22] This is one of those rare threads where communal mockery actually seems warrented. Hey I have a friend who worked for NASA. THAT MAKES ME A SPACE ASTRONAUT!
Holy Lowlander Comply Or Die G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.11.20 17:01:00 - [23] we pay ccp for a product. We like the product most of the time. The product isn't working properly sometimes (lagg) most of the time for a very large amount of people . (yeah right its your pc..) We complain about the prodcut Ccp Tries to solve it. ccp tries to solve the problems that came with 'solving' lagg the first time. and again and again. and I hope they will crack it with the new patch \o/.
ElCoCo KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.20 17:04:00 - [24] We need a new thread about what kind of friends we have! Boink!
Lady Katrana Wild Jokers	Posted - 2008.11.20 17:12:00 - [25] That's right, blame Blizzard.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.11.20 17:15:00 - [26] My friends a truck driver, does that make me a fat hairy man with a serious case of roids?
supr3m3justic3 Caldari Hakata Group Blade.	Posted - 2008.11.20 17:18:00 - [27] LOL @ OP...you got flamed all to hell and back....STFU!
Kolmogorow Freedom Resources	Posted - 2008.11.20 17:25:00 - [28] Originally by: Hercules Soban Hey player don't always blame CCP about that!! That's right. BUT: The client performance issues a lot of players are complaining about at the moment appeared suddenly with QR deployment. I am supposing that most of them didn't change anything with their hardware or other applications and services running on thier computers. At least IN THIS CASE the issues seem to point rather clearly into the direction of the developer of the expansion.
Ron Bacardi Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.11.20 17:32:00 - [29] Originally by: Murk Loar Originally by: Berious Thanks bro I'll stop all my pron torrents before getting in a fleet fight from now on you've really opened my eyes Aww man...but Bella Donna's new one is only 61% down =( Pirates 2 dude! Get it! It's worth it for the story alone!
Djan Anaplian Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.11.20 17:51:00 - [30] end yourself.
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2008.11.20 18:05:00 - [31] Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 20/11/2008 18:11:22 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich My friends a truck driver, does that make me a fat hairy man with a serious case of roids? Yes. Incidentally, according to this picture I just drew...err, took of me and the devs frolicking through jita, I'm BFFs4ever with all the developers at CCP - which should make me a developer too Also, I will be taking bribes for the next round of nerfs and buffs, please send isk with the desired target listed in the reason line. _____________________ My opinions plus a tablespoon of water may be substituted for your own.
Irongut M'8'S Frontal Impact	Posted - 2008.11.20 18:17:00 - [32] Don't talk **e about stuff you don't understand. 1) I am a programmer and former support engineer. Vista doesn't use 700Mb of my RAM coz I won't use that e. 2) My PC was perfectly fine before QR so the QR client has problems. Memory leaks imo, not that you'd understand what they are. 3) My PC is properly setup therefore doesn't do anything I don't want it to do like automatically downloading anything. 4) No. In 14 years of being online I've had.... 1 virus (10 years ago) and that came from a CD. 5) No. See answers 3 and 4. 6) My RAM is perfectly fine, see answer 2. 7) Duh! QR client has a lot of problems, mainly the crippling memory leaks caused by the new stargate models imo. -- * Brace for Impact! ***
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.11.20 18:35:00 - [33] Originally by: Irongut 1) I am a programmer and former support engineer. Vista doesn't use 700Mb of my RAM coz I won't use that ****e. Party foul. Regulations for this thread state you can only be a friend of someone in that field of training to know what your talking about.
Sniper Wolf18 Gallente Apocalypse Ponies H E L I C O N	Posted - 2008.11.20 18:57:00 - [34] Edited by: Sniper Wolf18 on 20/11/2008 18:58:24 I virus has passed through my antivirus and is now lagging me and my whole fleet, military experts suggest that it was placed there by the enemy FC WWJ(me)D? Also my ram is corrupted and has started taking bribes and embezzeling funds HALP! And above all, read my sig!
Removal Tool Reptilian Reality	Posted - 2008.11.20 19:02:00 - [35] I think we've discovered the Associative Osmotic Property of Expertise!
small chimp	Posted - 2008.11.20 19:10:00 - [36] Haha? the OP gave us a perfect example of flamebait.
Poast Warrior Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.11.20 19:38:00 - [37] That's easily the dumbest thing I've partially read in months.
Hercules Soban	Posted - 2008.11.21 10:36:00 - [38] i think that nearly noone here understood(except 1or2) that CCP is not always to blame!! Maybe sometimes it is her fault but sometimes it is just your pc!! That is wjat i meant but i thing most of those who replied are just ******s!
Kara SeJet	Posted - 2008.11.21 10:40:00 - [39] Originally by: Irongut Don't talk **e about stuff you don't understand. 1) I am a programmer and former support engineer. Vista doesn't use 700Mb of my RAM coz I won't use that **e. QR client has a lot of problems, mainly the crippling memory leaks caused by the new stargate models imo. QR may have bugs! But they shall be fixed in time. No need to say bad words to support your ideas simply controll your-selves! That indicates your low level of IQ.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.11.21 10:40:00 - [40] Obviously the problem is your computer is located in area with a lower than average density of computrons. - DesuSigs
Fay DeLion	Posted - 2008.11.21 11:03:00 - [41] Originally by: Hercules Soban i think that nearly noone here understood(except 1or2) that CCP is not always to blame!! Maybe sometimes it is her fault but sometimes it is just your pc!! That is wjat i meant but i thing most of those who replied are just *****s! I think we all understood your post. Not all of use Vista that uses 700 mb, some of us actually continue to use XP Pro with 8 GB of RAM and are still having a problem. I only run 1 client and just flying around, buying stuff (no not in Jita), there is a lag spike or memory leak every 15-30 seconds after maybe 1/2 a hour of being online. Anyway, this game should run fine on any computer that can run it. Just because some people can't afford the latest & greatest, doesn't mean that it shouldn't run just fine. I myself am doing great with my rig, but don't go pushing "your computer is the sukz0rz" & disenfranchising some people. Insert "Go to WoW" statement here* Damn troll
IR Scoutar Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.11.21 11:16:00 - [42] Edited by: IR Scoutar on 21/11/2008 11:21:07 Originally by: Hercules Soban Firtsly if you PC has 1GB of RAM memory then you should stop playing EvE in this computer! No just no... Quote: 1) as i am a programmers friend, Vista consumes 700MB out of 1GB RAM memory! this causes the pc to run slowly(especially in fleet battles)! Your friend obviously sucks at life and should stop being a programmer (java aint programming ) vista redistributs its ram use quite allot btw there is also win xp win 2k linux and mac os there is also a diffrence between premium and classic clients there is also the possibility to change how much you cache there ....... to infinity and beyond Quote: 2) your PC may not be of the best there are nowadays Eve is not of the best there is nowerdays nor is it optimised propperly Quote: 3) since EvE online is MMO you are constantly online. As a result the pc may automatically start downloading updates, so as for the antivirus! That has bupkis to do with lag eve uses a miniscule amount of bandwith Quote: 4) a virus may have passed through your antivirus and caused system damage again bupkis to do with eve realy Quote: 5) the antivirus may have started an automatic scan meh coud be Quote: 6) your RAM may be broken/corrupted(do a system scan before the pc runs the windows when turned on to find out) in that case not only eve will be broken Quote: your graphics card may be outdated! 7) turn off all the effects depends what your doing ... standard fleet practise is to turn off every effect anyways.... Quote: Don't always haste and blame CCP! as yhazzee sayd eve in inhabited by nerds who are to nerds what nerds are to normal people that is why allot of the blame towards specifict issues is indeed in ccp's hands allot of people here are quite knowledgeable ahead of the average mmo player that you will find
Vaugue	Posted - 2008.11.21 11:18:00 - [43] Edited by: Vaugue on 21/11/2008 11:22:38 how many mmo's out there now require you to cut most of your settings in order to enjoy the multiplayer aspec of thier game. Complex, 1 shard, whatever the reason or not the reason. Eve is the King of the Hill when it comes to poor performance. End of story. It's also the main reason my account only subs 1-3 months out of every 2 years. I re-sub in the hopes that maybe after 200,000+ people having paid to beta test this game that just maybe they got thier sh.. stuff together. I will howver keep my hopes up, and pop in every now and then to snag a skill or 2 in hopes of that day. At least until another space mmo comes out and knows what it's doing, Don't get me wrong. Eve is a great game. When it works. Which is only a few days between many years for my taste. I don't think the performance of Eve will ever shape up in our lifetime to be on par with other mmo's, and by the time it does there WILL be other space mmo's out there. I understand Eve is a pinacle in it's holy 1 shard crusade, but really advertising a mass combat pvp space game and seeing nothing but lag whines on the forums for 5 years.. yeah..
Kolmogorow Freedom Resources	Posted - 2008.11.21 12:03:00 - [44] Originally by: Kara SeJet QR may have bugs! But they shall be fixed in time. I am catholic. Does this help? (My last hope after spamming forum complaints and bug reports...)
Mag's MASS	Posted - 2008.11.21 13:28:00 - [45] Originally by: Djan Anaplian end yourself.
Bimjo Caldari Domination. Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2008.11.21 14:16:00 - [46] Originally by: Max Leadfoot Before insulting someone else for their grammar I would suggest you to check yours... Befour ensulting some one else four there grammer I wood sugest your too cheque your's ====================
Murk Loar Polytope	Posted - 2008.11.21 18:20:00 - [47] Originally by: Hercules Soban her fault It's always her fault,she just won't admit it.
N'tek alar	Posted - 2008.11.21 21:07:00 - [48] Originally by: Squably And before QR there was no lag so STFU until you really know what you are talking about. Indeed There was absolutely no lag before QR, Especially not in fleet battles.
Essack Leadae Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.21 21:21:00 - [49] Edited by: Essack Leadae on 21/11/2008 21:22:20 Originally by: Hercules Soban Hey player don't always blame CCP about that!! 1) as i am a programmers friend, Vista consumes 700MB out of 1GB RAM memory! [...] Don't always haste and blame CCP! As a (beginner) programmer, I have one moto : The user don't have to pay for the developer incompetence. CCP did many progresses for lag before QR (well, not tested myself), after QR it seems to don't exist anymore, and you ask to don't blame them and check our PCs... You are really funny. CCP admit the problem with the patch of tomorrow. Check the patch notes.
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.11.21 21:32:00 - [50] Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 21/11/2008 21:35:18 Originally by: Hercules Soban Vista consumes 700MB out of 1GB RAM memory! That's the reason i'm still hooked with XP. I'd like to change but I don't like when MEGATOPUBER hardware is mistreated like this. I mean UBER cpu is slow, UBER RAM get mid result, etc. I love to optimize my computer, so I don't use Vista. If anybody have a good advice on another windows edition (beside old things like Win 2000), go on, I'm thinking about buying a new licence. Fetchez la vache !
Craleo Caldari Brotherhood Cartel	Posted - 2008.11.21 23:55:00 - [51] Originally by: Essack Leadae As a (beginner) programmer, I have one moto : The user don't have to pay for the developer incompetence. As a sysadmin I can tell you that you are either lying or not long enough working as a developer Damn users. Let them pay for dev incompentence and admins incompetence alike. Good reason for not to become users
Kayla Voogo	Posted - 2008.11.21 23:58:00 - [52] Turn off all brackets and effects = win. Enough said.
Vaugue	Posted - 2008.11.22 02:44:00 - [53] Originally by: Kayla Voogo Turn off all brackets and effects = win. Enough said. shouldn't have to be the answer.. really... but it is and it's a lame solution. I am all for performance > eyecandy, but seriously if you dumb the effects of this game down anymore, you may as well be playing airplane on atari.
Kayla Voogo	Posted - 2008.11.22 12:46:00 - [54] Originally by: Vaugue Originally by: Kayla Voogo Turn off all brackets and effects = win. Enough said. shouldn't have to be the answer.. really... but it is and it's a lame solution. I am all for performance > eyecandy, but seriously if you dumb the effects of this game down anymore, you may as well be playing airplane on atari. Maybe this is true, but you have to decide... You want to play lagfest or compete in the fight you are in... I, for the moment, prefer to be able to attack and not just watch a picture on my screen that looks nice.
Vaugue Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.22 13:43:00 - [55] eh.. I'm agreeing with you. Not that it's the right answer, but really it's the only answer ccp allows. After all it only performs as good as they make it, and thier 5 year track record isn't so hot in my view

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