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LVirus
Enterprise Estonia
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.11.20 11:58:00 -
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This is just stupid. 30sec aggro timer isn't enough. Before this nerfpatch you could at least bump people away from gates/station. Now they just wait their aggro out and redock.
Aggro timer should be increased to at least 2 minutes. |
Phasics
Imperium Technologies
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Posted - 2008.11.20 12:00:00 -
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There is no aggro reset 
ok nuke it dot it  |
LVirus
Enterprise Estonia
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.11.20 12:02:00 -
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 Originally by: Phasics
There is no aggro reset
ok nuke it dot it
wtf? |
Furb Killer
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.11.20 12:08:00 -
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Stop fighting on stations and gates? |
Phasics
Imperium Technologies
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Posted - 2008.11.20 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: LVirus
Originally by: Phasics
There is no aggro reset
ok nuke it dot it
wtf?
have you never heard THATS A FUC%ING 50DKP MINUS ! check it out on youtube your post just reminded me of it
In all seriousness this isnt an issue if you a) dont endgage at stations and b) draw aggro before commiting and have baackup squadmates unaggressed to go through the gate with the target to catch him on the other side
there will always be loop holes just learn to use them to your advnatge.
would a 2min aggro help ? probably not would just make people less willing to commit to a fight and reduce the amount of PvP, or just cause people to fit to surive the 2min agrro and then your back to sqaure 1 |
LVirus
Enterprise Estonia
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.11.20 12:09:00 -
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Edited by: LVirus on 20/11/2008 12:10:21
Originally by: Furb Killer
Stop fighting on stations and gates?
oh, where the hell do you expect me to fight then? Chasing ratters from belts? Lagging blobfights?
Imo if target is stupid enough to take a bait on gate/station then he deserves to die. |
Mal'ol Soddo
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Posted - 2008.11.20 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: LVirus
Edited by: LVirus on 20/11/2008 12:10:21
Originally by: Furb Killer
Stop fighting on stations and gates?
oh, where the hell do you expect me to fight then? Chasing ratters from belts? Lagging blobfights?
Imo if target is stupid enough to take a bait on gate/station then he deserves to die.
IMO if an attacker is stupid enough to attack at a station and think hes got enough time to kill, he deserves to fail. |
SUAO
Hazardous Flame
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Posted - 2008.11.20 12:15:00 -
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The OP lost a kill due to someone fleeing, to zeh forums!!!!! NERF!!!!
Miltary experts are calling this ******ed. |
LVirus
Enterprise Estonia
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.11.20 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: Mal'ol Soddo
Originally by: LVirus
Edited by: LVirus on 20/11/2008 12:10:21
Originally by: Furb Killer
Stop fighting on stations and gates?
oh, where the hell do you expect me to fight then? Chasing ratters from belts? Lagging blobfights?
Imo if target is stupid enough to take a bait on gate/station then he deserves to die.
IMO if an attacker is stupid enough to attack at a station and think hes got enough time to kill, he deserves to fail.
Dude, do you even fight anything but rats? Not all gangs are blobs with insane dps. Proper small gangs got recons, dictors and maybe 1 bait. Its just stupid how people arent afraid to undock capitals anymore, they are 100% secure unless they crash or blob lags out the node. Small pvp gangs are already taking all the risks. |
Furb Killer
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.11.20 12:22:00 -
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A small gang should be able to kill sub capital ships in less than 30 seconds.
With a 2 minute agro timer a small gang still wont be able to kill a carrier on a station, they would need to hotdrop dreads on it. |
LVirus
Enterprise Estonia
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.11.20 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
A small gang should be able to kill sub capital ships in less than 30 seconds.
With a 2 minute agro timer a small gang still wont be able to kill a carrier on a station, they would need to hotdrop dreads on it.
Hot dropping dreads isn't a problem. Hell, make that timer 5min-s. But there should be some risk involved when undocking from a station. Maybe stations should throw you out about 10km from the docking range, that could help also.
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midge Mo'yb
R.U.S.T.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.20 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: LVirus
Originally by: Furb Killer
A small gang should be able to kill sub capital ships in less than 30 seconds.
With a 2 minute agro timer a small gang still wont be able to kill a carrier on a station, they would need to hotdrop dreads on it.
Hot dropping dreads isn't a problem. Hell, make that timer 5min-s. But there should be some risk involved when undocking from a station. Maybe stations should throw you out about 10km from the docking range, that could help also.
wish someone would throw you 10 km out of a Station, atleast then we wouldnt have to listen to your whine..
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LVirus
Enterprise Estonia
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.11.20 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: midge Mo'yb
Originally by: LVirus
Originally by: Furb Killer
A small gang should be able to kill sub capital ships in less than 30 seconds.
With a 2 minute agro timer a small gang still wont be able to kill a carrier on a station, they would need to hotdrop dreads on it.
Hot dropping dreads isn't a problem. Hell, make that timer 5min-s. But there should be some risk involved when undocking from a station. Maybe stations should throw you out about 10km from the docking range, that could help also.
wish someone would throw you 10 km out of a Station, atleast then we wouldnt have to listen to your whine..
Who are you referring to? Because i cant find you name on any kill/loss mail. |
Tippia
Caldari
Raddick Explorations
BlackWater.
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Posted - 2008.11.20 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: Phasics
Originally by: LVirus
Originally by: Phasics
There is no aggro reset
ok nuke it dot it
wtf?
have you never heard THATS A FUC%ING 50DKP MINUS ! check it out on youtube your post just reminded me of it
For your convenience |
eXtas
Atomic Battle Penguins
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Posted - 2008.11.20 13:28:00 -
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agro timer isnt 30s, it is 1 min.. but yes its way to litle.. I had 6bs and a hac shooting my plated bs on a station and I did manage to deagro 
not to talk about using caps in lowsec... even if someone hotdroped 10 dreads on my stationhuging carrier I would have time to deagro when cyno goes up.. first jump in lag for dreads, then they need to enter siege and lock the carrier.. dont leave them many seconds to shoot so unless the carrier is totaly ******ed he has enough hp to dock even without any reps :P
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Josef Odinssen
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Posted - 2008.11.20 14:07:00 -
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ive got no problem with being kicked out of a station at 10KM, just as long as i have some way (other than a metagaming scout alt) to know whats outside.
Lets hope when ambulation comes they have station windows FFS.
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Tippia
Caldari
Raddick Explorations
BlackWater.
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Posted - 2008.11.20 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Josef Odinssen
ive got no problem with being kicked out of a station at 10KM, just as long as i have some way (other than a metagaming scout alt) to know whats outside.
Lets hope when ambulation comes they have station windows FFS.
Heck, the ship scanner would suffice, and already exists within the game. Give us access to it while docked, perhaps with the ranged vastly reduced, and it would go a long way. |
Atrei Capital
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Posted - 2008.11.20 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Josef Odinssen
ive got no problem with being kicked out of a station at 10KM, just as long as i have some way (other than a metagaming scout alt) to know whats outside.
Lets hope when ambulation comes they have station windows FFS.
This. Or rather, sensors.. don't tell me you can't afford to put the same technology that comes with a tech1 frigate or shuttle on a multibillion isk station.
No undock/redock games? Good. Being able to know what's outside the station before clicking undock? Also good.
It really doesn't make much sense to have to undock blind as it is, especially when you know it might be dangerous. It's just as silly as being able to undock/redock repeatedly, immune to any form of attack since you can dock before you're even allowed to be targetted...
Of course, someone will promptly be in to argue that it makes no sense to put a basic radar system on a station, and that people should have to undock blind so they can easily be ganked, because that's what EVE is about. |
Furb Killer
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.11.20 14:53:00 -
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being thrown 10km away from station without a method to see what is outside station (without metagaming), would help against gatecamping, because half of them would switch to station camping... |
Xaa
Minmatar
House Arrakis
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Posted - 2008.11.20 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Phasics
There is no aggro reset
ok nuke it dot it
Help the whelp groups!
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.20 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
being thrown 10km away from station without a method to see what is outside station (without metagaming), would help against gatecamping, because half of them would switch to station camping...
This. Best thing is, it wouldn't hurt people on home turf, because undock->instawarp->warp back to 0km on station->play station games would become extremely popular.
At any rate, the people whining how their bait/gank traps are not working, well, you know, I somehow fail to care.
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Cookie Snatcher
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.11.20 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Furb Killer
being thrown 10km away from station without a method to see what is outside station (without metagaming), would help against gatecamping, because half of them would switch to station camping...
This. Best thing is, it wouldn't hurt people on home turf, because undock->instawarp->warp back to 0km on station->play station games would become extremely popular.
At any rate, the people whining how their bait/gank traps are not working, well, you know, I somehow fail to care.
thats why there are bubbles in 0.0.
But truth is some changes are needed badly. I really like that 10km idea with station scanner.
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Mangold
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.11.20 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
A small gang should be able to kill sub capital ships in less than 30 seconds.
has everyone already lost all hope of 1 vs 1 pvp?
Looks like everything is about who has the biggest gang now.
The new radius on gates is just stupid imho.
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Orion GUardian
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.20 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Mangold
Originally by: Furb Killer
A small gang should be able to kill sub capital ships in less than 30 seconds.
has everyone already lost all hope of 1 vs 1 pvp?
Looks like everything is about who has the biggest gang now.
The new radius on gates is just stupid imho.
erm DONT camp gates then? or just the small ones? [radius did not change, only gate size] you got Probes now...in 2004 you had to check each belt yourself to check for ratters etc and safespots were safe. So you COULD try o engage enemies away from gates or stations...
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Kaar
Art of War
Exalted.
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Posted - 2008.11.20 18:15:00 -
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The agro timer should have been extended back when HP was buffed.
90s would work well I think.
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Dibsi Dei
Salamyhkaisten kilta
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Posted - 2008.11.24 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kaar
The agro timer should have been extended back when HP was buffed.
90s would work well I think.
Maybe some extra for that since the bumphoon nerf. 
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.11.24 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Xaa
Originally by: Phasics
There is no aggro reset
ok nuke it dot it
Help the whelp groups!
Just to contribute.
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
Another Forum'Alt
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Posted - 2008.11.24 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Phasics
There is no aggro reset
ok nuke it dot it
50 DKP MINUS!!
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PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
Gallente
aurorae pacificas
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Posted - 2008.11.24 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Xaa
Originally by: Phasics
There is no aggro reset
ok nuke it dot it
Help the whelp groups!
GO AWAY FROM THE HEAD LEE!!!!!
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Faife
Noctiscion
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Posted - 2008.11.24 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
A small gang should be able to kill sub capital ships in less than 30 seconds.
With a 2 minute agro timer a small gang still wont be able to kill a carrier on a station, they would need to hotdrop dreads on it.
you'd be surprised how much HP you can fit onto a thron, domi, or geddon.
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