Originally by: jimmyjam

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Good post dude 10/10 most of the stuff you listed is common sense that anyone that calls them selfÆs a pvp, er should know.

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Originally by: Jim Hazard

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Allways have a bottle of rum with you when you are pirating!!

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Originally by: Skira Ranos

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Well theres two schools of thought about PvP.

One is that you should be skilled.

The other is to simply bring the biggest guns, skillpoints and/or the most people (and, in many cases, the biggest ego).

I proscribe to the former school of thought.

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Originally by: Nexus Kinnon

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What's rule #34 of EVE PvP?

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Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon

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Originally by: Skira Ranos

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Well theres two schools of thought about PvP.

One is that you should be skilled.

The other is to simply bring the biggest guns, skillpoints and/or the most people (and, in many cases, the biggest ego).

I proscribe to the former school of thought.

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I vote for both.

Good rules as such.

Problem is there's a million guides about it out in the open and people still remain sillies. How is one more guide going to help? Teaching is best done on-the-job in your corporation.

Elsebeth

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Originally by: Skira Ranos

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Edited by: Skira Ranos on 20/11/2008 19:00:26

Originally by: Kehmor

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Those rules suck:

1) why not?
2) see 1
3)I actually win the majority of the time and always assume I will.
4) Not at all true, most people are reasonably trust worthy, you only hear about the ones who aren't.
5) If you fight like that, you will never get fights.
6) If you fight like that, you will never get fights.
7) The more time you spend gathering info, the more time they have to gain info on you.
8) You learn this through experience, telling people they should know it before they start pvping is pretty ******ed.
9) The only really solid rule you listed.

The main rule of pvp: Do it as much as possible, and you will become good at it. ***** footing around and following guides and rules will get you only so far, and not very.

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Well theres two schools of thought about PvP.

One is that you should be skilled.

The other is to simply bring the biggest guns, skillpoints and/or the most people (and, in many cases, the biggest ego).

I proscribe to the former school of thought.

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Originally by: Nexus Kinnon

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What's rule #34 of EVE PvP?

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Originally by: Kehmor

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Originally by: Skira Ranos

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Edited by: Skira Ranos on 20/11/2008 19:00:26

Originally by: Kehmor

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Those rules suck:

1) why not?
2) see 1
3)I actually win the majority of the time and always assume I will.
4) Not at all true, most people are reasonably trust worthy, you only hear about the ones who aren't.
5) If you fight like that, you will never get fights.
6) If you fight like that, you will never get fights.
7) The more time you spend gathering info, the more time they have to gain info on you.
8) You learn this through experience, telling people they should know it before they start pvping is pretty ******ed.
9) The only really solid rule you listed.

The main rule of pvp: Do it as much as possible, and you will become good at it. ***** footing around and following guides and rules will get you only so far, and not very.

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Well theres two schools of thought about PvP.

One is that you should be skilled.

The other is to simply bring the biggest guns, skillpoints and/or the most people (and, in many cases, the biggest ego).

I proscribe to the former school of thought.

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I practice the former. Based on your rules you cannot say the same. Don't feed me your "I'm a 2005 pirate" crap, many of the worst pvpers I know have been playing longer than me.

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Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon

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I probably came through a bit wrong; I am sure a lot of guides are useful, and no doubt a lot of people read them.

The problem to me seems to be that mostly the people who read rules like these have already figured them out themselves, and need instead more detailed info on mechanics and strategies; the people who would need the basic rules hammered into them rarely bother to read more.

I think your old guide had more details too, though, and this is just part of the plan, right?

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Originally by: Plim

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Rules of not wanting to argue with idiots:

1. Don't post on the EVE-Online forums.

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Originally by: Skira Ranos

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Originally by: Plim

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Rules of not wanting to argue with idiots:

1. Don't post on the EVE-Online forums.

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Or simply ignore them.

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Originally by: Plim

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Originally by: Skira Ranos

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Originally by: Plim

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Rules of not wanting to argue with idiots:

1. Don't post on the EVE-Online forums.

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Or simply ignore them.

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You can. I'm just pointing out that whatever you post on EVE-O, no matter how self evidently valid it may seem, you will always find people working backwards from the conclusion that you are wrong, in an attempt to be seen as superior by a community of internet people who they will likely never meet.

Or they will respond to some alternative reality version of your post which they have constructed in their heads.

Death of the forum author?

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Originally by: Skira Ranos

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Edited by: Skira Ranos on 20/11/2008 16:49:02

3- THE THIRD RULE OF EVE PVP IS: You WILL lose.

Often. The instant you decide you are going to use a ship to PvP, that ship is very very likely destined for destruction. Best to start pretending that it's already as good as gone; that way it will hurt less when it inevitably pops.

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Quote:

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I don't see at all how they are incompatible with that I've written.

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The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.

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Originally by: Karrade Krise

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Karrade 9 Facts of EVE.

1. Beware of Space Whales. They will neuter you.
2. Beware of Flying Spaghetti Monsters. Trust me, they exist.
3. RL threats get you banned. Don't believe me? Ask Ginger Magician.
4. AOL Speak is not tolerated. You will be situated. Resistance is useless.
5. The Cake IS a lie.
6. With the EA expansion, came the gender correct corpses. Pods are like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get.
7. Chribba Owns all Veldspar. You only get to mine it because he allows it.
8. Vent > TS. No matter what you WOWers have to say about it.
9. Fighting Concord is a lot like fighting Chuck Norris, either way it's just not going to end very well for you.

I bare no responsibility for my own actions and words. Therefore if I have offended you, you can kiss the arse end of my shiney Premium Graphix'd Ibis.

P.S. Sucks when you can't figure out when the signature starts...

Take that as you will.

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Originally by: Rajere

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I don't see at all how they are incompatible with that I've written.

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They are 100% incompatible. This has been touched on before, but some people seek out pvp, in order to improve themselves and become better at it. Others only pvp because, well it's a pvp game, duh, but honestly they would rather avoid pvp at all costs. I say eve is a pvp game because a: Obviously it is, and b: despite all of the other things you can choose to do in eve, whether its mining/missioning/carebearing/etc, is ultimately merely things done to support pvp...

...I do not know why the second group plays the game at all tbh. I don't know why they are so risk adverse, whether it's a warped sense of ego or killboard epeening or whatever. The ironic thing is, the latter groups pretty much universally have horrible kb stats in comparison to the former.

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Originally by: Plim

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Understanding risk does not make you risk averse.

Someone dosen't understand the OP.

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