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Letelio Denmun
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Posted - 2008.11.21 10:47:00 -
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 Originally by: OK USA
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Maybe I'm crazy but I thought with the last patch Scrambles disengaged MWD.
Maybe I'm crazy but I thought that it's kind of hard to tackle people with a scram in a battleship when they jump through a gate.
  i love you
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Davina Braben
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Posted - 2008.11.21 10:48:00 -
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You had three guys and you couldn't bag him?
Bahahahahahah. Fail.
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Letelio Denmun
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Posted - 2008.11.21 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Davina Braben
You had three guys and you couldn't bag him?
Bahahahahahah. Fail.
lol at you for not knowing wtf your saying or doing,,, faaiil
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Mal'ol Soddo
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Posted - 2008.11.21 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Letelio Denmun
Originally by: OK USA
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Maybe I'm crazy but I thought with the last patch Scrambles disengaged MWD.
Maybe I'm crazy but I thought that it's kind of hard to tackle people with a scram in a battleship when they jump through a gate.
i love you
But, but... You just said battleships were gettig back to the gate fast enough to get away... So if you guys sit on the gate, lock them when they uncloak+jam, you can go ram/scramble them, cos your closer right? Right?
Or even better, don't fight at the gate/station, nowhere to run then! |
Kaiser Sorano
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Posted - 2008.11.21 11:37:00 -
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Scan people down in belts and missions. Scram, web, pop, loot
How hard can it be? |
Beardponderer
You're Doing It Wrong
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Posted - 2008.11.21 11:55:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Kaiser Sorano
Scan people down in belts and missions. Scram, web, pop, loot
How hard can it be?
In a lot of area's of low sec there are very little mission runners. Belt pvp died a long time ago, very rarely do I see anyone in a low sec belt unless they are bait.
Gate camping gets kills and money for pirates, it's like missioning in a sense because there is little risk. But the OP is right, it is getting much harder to get kills while gatecamping. Before patch our devoter could almost insta-lock anything and dual-web them (domi web). This was with a large amount of remote sensor boosters though which many other pirates won't have. But now, even with a large amount of remote sebo's webs do little to stop a MWD'ing target. CCP are catering for medium to large gangs well but they haven't done much for small gang pvp in a while...  |
Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.21 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Letelio Denmun
the drake was still able to mwd back to the gate
Try having one 9km scrambler. Overheat for 10.8km range. Stops MWD-ing ships like hitting a brick wall, much much faster then 90% webs used to.
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Gods Coldblood
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.21 12:13:00 -
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I'm sorry but in alot of ways low sec pvp is dead.. Unlesss you have alot of time to waste waiting, your get bored of it easy.. A pvper in low sec now , would be better off joining the milita or doing what i did and going back to 0.0..
I am at heart a solo pvper so maybe im bais in my opinion, but most corp's will only fight you once or maybe twice if you win the battles, thus making less targets to shoot at..
I dont agree with the idea that 3 people should differently beable to stop 1 target getting back to the gate.. Some lone pvpers do have good control over situations, that its always going to be hard to catch them, but thats what makes them a good kill once you get them!
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Todd Doughnut
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Posted - 2008.11.21 12:16:00 -
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Learn how to gate camp Properly. You fit for the type of ships you want to take down.
Remote sensor boosted BS with speed fit sits right on the gate, MWD'S toward target and scrams him, turning off his MWD in the process. AT range, use the webs. Fit short range weapons.
Your other BS is a highly SB'd sniper. Your third BS is a supporting tank, with support drones / remote reps/ remote SB. Keep him within range of your tackler and fit him with a 24km disruptor.
No BS/ BC will escape that. He cannot warp in time, and he cannot mwd back to the gate - since you will intercept him before he reaches roughly 10km. With no MWD and a web on him and your sniper pounding him, hes toast.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.11.21 12:24:00 -
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Why would you use a sniper? Close range ships do far more dps, if tracking is an issue you can always use a harbinger which is kept alive by a RR BS.
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Originally by: Neth'Rae
Military experts are calling this a troll.
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Todd Doughnut
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Posted - 2008.11.21 12:27:00 -
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Having said that, its very hard to get someone who is detrmined not to be caught. When travelling through a lot of low sec, I sometimes have a travel fitting with 3 halcyon WCS's and the rest all inertial II's it turns and burns like a cruiser. Without a HIC you would have to be very lucky with your bumps to stop it.
As with all PVP, its hard to beat a dedicated fit being used for its purpose. You could of course add a FOURTH ship to the gate camp equation - a dedicated bump ship - vaga or very fast fitted BC or cruiser. It wouldnt have to take aggro, so no need for a tank.
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Todd Doughnut
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Posted - 2008.11.21 12:30:00 -
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The sniper is there because he can shoot without having to get position, and for 'unexpected situations' Its good to have some of your DPS out of range of anything else that might emerge through the gate... Like a horrible horrible EW frig for instance.
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ouroboros trading
Gallente
Medics On Fire
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Posted - 2008.11.21 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Ticondrius
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Maybe I'm crazy but I thought with the last patch Scrambles disengaged MWD.
Only warp DISRUPTORS (you know, the 20km ones?).
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Valan
The Fated
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Posted - 2008.11.21 14:28:00 -
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PvP occurs at points of interest. POS or a gate.
POS warfare is boring and the lag is horrendous.
If all targets can escape at a gate then there is no PvP but the boring version.
This game is for bears now it's WoW in space. Hopefully there will be a PvP game out soon to replace EVE becuase there is no way I'm gonna be crafting curtains for my quarters.
I have billions to blow I'm going pirate for the first time until I run out of isk. The bears have forced many good guys out of the game I'm going to repay the favour and go out in a blaze of glory.
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Princess Jodi
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.21 14:39:00 -
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Maybe you're just terrible piewrats?
I laughed so hard at your pitiful attempts to convince us to feel sorry for you big bad piewrats. Thanks for the thread, it just reinforces how piewrats like you are the biggest whining carebears in Eve.
P.S. Why don't you go compare hauler-and-shuttle-kill epeen lengths with The Hooch, and cry over a bottle of Rum about CCP nerfing you. |
Pesky LaRue
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.21 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Letelio Denmun
Player verses Player comes in many shapes and forms.
It is not just new players in haulers and civilian fit cruisers that we have to fight, if you think that is the case then i think you mite need to learn some more before commenting.
But you seem to have the view of many thinking for some reason gate camping is not real pvp, no idea where this idea was born I guess it just shows how little you actually know.
the kids in the part of London I grew up in loved to fight - it was a really big part of life and brought status with it. however, the ones that couldn't really fight used to hang out in alleyways and jump on people as they went by.
THAT'S what gatecamping is. not a stand-up, knock-down fight.
now, you can play the game how you like and do what you want, but again, don't come here weeping about how hard it is to gatecamp these days and expect sympathy.
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Beardponderer
You're Doing It Wrong
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Posted - 2008.11.21 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi
Maybe you're just terrible piewrats?
I laughed so hard at your pitiful attempts to convince us to feel sorry for you big bad piewrats. Thanks for the thread, it just reinforces how piewrats like you are the biggest whining carebears in Eve.
P.S. Why don't you go compare hauler-and-shuttle-kill epeen lengths with The Hooch, and cry over a bottle of Rum about CCP nerfing you.
Ahahaha..
Go back to CAOD and get out of that ****ty alliance. Then you can ***** and insult pirates. |
An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.11.21 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Letelio Denmun
Sorry im kind of rambaling now, but seeing as my security status prevents me from earning isk via mission running or minning
Umm, no? |
Letelio Denmun
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Posted - 2008.11.21 20:30:00 -
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I love seeing people cry about pirates really makes me feel like we are doing our job well. Todd i dont think you know the first thing about low sec gate camping least of all in tiny gangs so please stop telling me i suck because if i tried your tatics even most the haulers that jumped in (and didnt log off) would get away.
As for all the ones who are trying to take a dig at how i play my game, grow up really its stupid. How you can even compare it to a real life gang situation kinda pathetic really.
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.21 20:40:00 -
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Hadnt you heard? Tackling now requires 14 webs, and damage requires 9000 painters.
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Letelio Denmun
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Posted - 2008.11.22 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Soporo
Hadnt you heard? Tackling now requires 14 webs, and damage requires 9000 painters.
respect to you for saying the truth
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VillagePeople
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Posted - 2008.11.23 05:17:00 -
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sensor booster + dual web + 2 pt scram enemy down whether he's got afterburner, MWD or cloak, besides 3 BS is hardly a gatecamp you need a heavy tackler in there like a HAC or a specially kitted out BC to just hold him there while the BS get into range, web and lock.
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Tyremis
Most Wanted INC
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.11.23 05:24:00 -
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basically ccp only cares about empire as most of the players in eve live there.
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Gonada
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.23 05:39:00 -
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NO, EVE caters to smart people.
the dumb ones are the ones to suffer.
Please, jump into traffic
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Minny Sky
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Posted - 2008.11.23 06:31:00 -
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Now, you have to use scram and a few webs
scram, is the new web, by the way
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needrandomnamegenerator
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Posted - 2008.11.23 06:53:00 -
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Originally by: VillagePeople
sensor booster + dual web + 2 pt scram enemy down whether he's got afterburner, MWD or cloak, besides 3 BS is hardly a gatecamp you need a heavy tackler in there like a HAC or a specially kitted out BC to just hold him there while the BS get into range, web and lock.
So basically you agree that CCP lied when they said they meant to keep small gang and SOLO pvp alive after this farce of a patch?
Sure does sound like everybody in this thread is in agreement:
To fight now, you need-
1)One regular point, to keep them from warping off
2) One scram to shut down MWD's and stop them from re-approaching the gate
3) 3-5 Webs to actually stop the ship
4) 1+ Target Painters, depending on the number of enemies you face
5) DPS to pop a ship in under 15-25 seconds (assuming all your webs, scrams, and points got on in time)
6) Tank, to avoid instapopping by gate guns, or god forbid your prey.
YES, they did it, that totally sounds doable by a single ship..
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McTard
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Posted - 2008.11.23 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: Gonada
NO, EVE caters to smart people.
the dumb ones are the ones to suffer.
Naw. EVE caters most and best to large groups of average people over small groups of smart people much less a single genius. I mean, look at the GoOnS. 
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