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Coltach
SlingDraw Corp
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Posted - 2008.11.22 23:24:00 -
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With ambulation coming, this has been up once or twice, I've seen EVE described as teen rated, but the overall sense of EVE is anything but. Cold, hard and adversarial. Kill or be killed. Adapt or die and all the others of the kind.
To me 'Teen Rated' smacks of nannying, something reviled by these fora, and by extension, the general EVE populace. One has only to look at the near constant grumbling about the language filter and its... eccentricities to get an idea of how players view CCP's adherence to a model of desirable linguistic behavior.
So why is EVE a Teen Rated game?
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Malcanis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.22 23:25:00 -
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$
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.11.22 23:25:00 -
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It's just a semi-arbitrary American rating. No legal meaning AFAIK in the States, and certainly not in any other country.
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Gnomes Rock
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Posted - 2008.11.22 23:30:00 -
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Because there needs to be boobs ingame to make it an adult game.
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Plim
Gallente Oursulaert Technology Institute
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Posted - 2008.11.22 23:30:00 -
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Because most players act like angry 15 year olds in a high school clique?
---- Failing to understand your crazy epicycles since 2003. |

Ticondrius
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.22 23:31:00 -
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Teen rating = more USD for CCP. For the rest of the world, they could rate it XXXxXXX and the 10 year-olds would still play.
So, Americans, enjoying your Net Nanny government?  -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- PROPOSAL: Good Bug Reporting Incentives MMORPG: Many Men Online Role Playing Girls |

Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2008.11.22 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Coltach So why is EVE a Teen Rated game?
To get the broadest possible audience. I am afraid it is as easy as that.
More players = more income.
Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL
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d1v1n1ty
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Posted - 2008.11.22 23:33:00 -
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Not a lot of blood in the game either.
We all played with spaceships when we were little, no? Hmmm...I remember my Lego ones...awesome.
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Silver Night
Caldari Naqam Exalted.
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Posted - 2008.11.22 23:38:00 -
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Sit down kids, and let Uncle Silver tell you 'bout the good ole days. Ya see, now this was back in '03 it was, Eve came in a box. In these United States, we have a store known as Walmart, and she's a biggun' fer yer software sales. If'un you want to do well at retail with yer boxed game, you gotta have it at Walmart, an' heres the key - Walmart don't carry no M (Mature) rated games. So CCP, bein' the smart fellers they are, made sure and got them that T rating. S' why the Agents don't cuss and the drugs are called boosters.
Still, should come in handy fer this new fangled distribution deal we been hearin' bout. --------------
The Clown Man. GLS Mr. State Caldari Patriot. Sansha's Nation Supporter
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.11.22 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ticondrius Teen rating = more USD for CCP. For the rest of the world, they could rate it XXXxXXX and the 10 year-olds would still play.
So, Americans, enjoying your Net Nanny government? 
The phenomenon in question is a result of the country being founded by puritans, not of some sort of "net nanny" thing.
At least we don't have security cameras posted everywhere like they do in the UK  __________________________________
Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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Malcanis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.22 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: Ticondrius Teen rating = more USD for CCP. For the rest of the world, they could rate it XXXxXXX and the 10 year-olds would still play.
So, Americans, enjoying your Net Nanny government? 
The phenomenon in question is a result of the country being founded by puritans, not of some sort of "net nanny" thing.
At least we don't have security cameras posted everywhere like they do in the UK 
Yet.
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2008.11.22 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri At least we don't have security cameras posted everywhere like they do in the UK 
Several US cities are catching up rapidly. And given some of the post 9/11 legislation, any footage that is taken can be used for a lot more than footage taken in most european countries.
Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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Arvald
Caldari Ninjas N Pirates
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Posted - 2008.11.22 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri
At least we don't have security cameras posted everywhere like they do in the UK 
as far as we know
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Plim
Gallente Oursulaert Technology Institute
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Posted - 2008.11.22 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: Terianna Eri
At least we don't have security cameras posted everywhere like they do in the UK 
as far as we know
The NSA carries out the role in various other ways.
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.11.22 23:58:00 -
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posting in a thread where i get quoted 4 times __________________________________
Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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Plim
Gallente Oursulaert Technology Institute
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Posted - 2008.11.22 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri posting in a thread where i get quoted 4 times
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Jana Clant
New Dawn Corp New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.11.23 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri posting in a thread where i get quoted 4 times
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New Eden Research, where your research gets done!
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Verx Interis
Amarr Modicus Dementis
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Posted - 2008.11.23 00:11:00 -
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Because the ESRB probably doesn't give a crap what they rate MMO's, since they have to say "Game experience may change during online play" and the game is entirley online.
As for how they decide the rating, to put it simply, there's no sex and no graphic violence. That's what ****es parents in the States off. They couldn't give a rat's ass about the "attitude" of the game. The attention around shootings and violence in this country makes parents overly concerned about any game with blood and guns, and ignores any larger "theme" of a game. This is exemplified in the reviews of many games that don't have a harmful overall theme, but have blood or guns and as such, get rated M.
To put it simply, when a game is rated here in the States, it's not rated on what the game is ACTUALLY about, it's just how much blood and sex is in it. All the ignorant parents out here seem to think that if a 15 year old sees some girls boob or sees someone bleed in a game, it's going to corrupt their mind and blah blah. It stems off this idea here that children are unable to do wrong.
I could rant all day but I'd digress pretty far so I'll leave it at that -- Your bad loan management perfectly strikes the stock market, wrecking for -777.68 points. |

Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.23 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri posting in a thread where i get quoted 4 times
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Nikita Alterana
Gallente The Antikythera Mechanism
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Posted - 2008.11.23 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri posting in a thread where i get quoted 4 times
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Berious
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.11.23 00:33:00 -
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Edited by: Berious on 23/11/2008 00:33:54 Probably any reference to drugs/alcohol gets you an automatic teen or above rating. That'd be my guess anyway.
Mature/AO is just code for "**** or swearing". No one cares if your feelings get hurt or millions of virtual people die.
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NightF0x
Gallente Chicken Coup Raiders
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Posted - 2008.11.23 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: Verx Interis ...It stems off this idea here that children are unable to do wrong.
That statement comes from the ideals that came from the Great Depression, the idea that your children should have a better life than you had. This has been expanded so far that discipline has been pushed aside and children believe that they rule the world (or household). ------------------------------------
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Verx Interis
Amarr Modicus Dementis
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Posted - 2008.11.23 00:41:00 -
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Edited by: Verx Interis on 23/11/2008 00:41:56
Originally by: Berious Edited by: Berious on 23/11/2008 00:37:15 Probably any reference to drugs/alcohol gets you an automatic teen or above rating. That'd be my guess anyway.
Mature/AO is just code for "boobies or blood and guns". No one cares if your feelings get hurt or millions of virtual people die.
Fixed. Searing usually gets you a Teen rating.
AO is code for "lack of sales"
Originally by: NightF0x
Originally by: Verx Interis ...It stems off this idea here that children are unable to do wrong.
That statement comes from the ideals that came from the Great Depression, the idea that your children should have a better life than you had. This has been expanded so far that discipline has been pushed aside and children believe that they rule the world (or household).
Pretty much. But the end result is that children get away with tons of things and rarely get punished for it. That's why there's bullying in schools, drinking, drug use, etc etc. Not because of GTA IV. -- Your bad loan management perfectly strikes the stock market, wrecking for -777.68 points. |

Khemul Zula
Amarr Black Plague.
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Posted - 2008.11.23 00:47:00 -
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Edited by: Khemul Zula on 23/11/2008 00:50:21 Hell I think it could be argued this game should be rated 'E10+'.
E10+ "Titles in this category may contain more cartoon, fantasy or mild violence, mild language, and/or minimal suggestive themes." Teen "Titles in this category may contain violent content, mild or strong language, and/or suggestive themes."
Space ships arn't people so they should probably go under cartoon violence. And the only suggestive themes are the drugs and references to slavery and prostitution.
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Stunna Shade
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Posted - 2008.11.23 00:49:00 -
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because of the female corpse being naked.
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F90OEX
F9X
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Posted - 2008.11.23 00:54:00 -
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CCP Employees who are parents should ask themselves would they want there younger teens playing eve ..
In a game that promotes scamming, back stabbing spying etc, me thinks not ...
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Kavin Alavandar
Extropy Dianoetics
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Posted - 2008.11.23 01:02:00 -
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I am acquainted with a man who refuses to play EVE, and refuses to allow his son to play EVE, because it is Satanic. True story.
People have the craziest ideas of what is/isn't appropriate for any given age, or appropriate for humans at all. _______________________________________________ 'The illiterate of this century are not those who cannot read and write; but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn.' |

Verx Interis
Amarr Modicus Dementis
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Posted - 2008.11.23 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kavin Alavandar I am acquainted with a man who refuses to play EVE, and refuses to allow his son to play EVE, because it is Satanic. True story.
People have the craziest ideas of what is/isn't appropriate for any given age, or appropriate for humans at all.
There's an argument for pretty much EVERY game to be satanic... -- Your bad loan management perfectly strikes the stock market, wrecking for -777.68 points. |

Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.11.23 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: Verx Interis
Originally by: Kavin Alavandar I am acquainted with a man who refuses to play EVE, and refuses to allow his son to play EVE, because it is Satanic. True story.
People have the craziest ideas of what is/isn't appropriate for any given age, or appropriate for humans at all.
There's an argument for pretty much EVERY game to be satanic...
dizzy for the comadore wasnt satanic
it was demonic :P
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Black Plague.
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Posted - 2008.11.23 01:25:00 -
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Just because I sacrifice an infant child to Satan in the hopes he'll help me survive the gate camp whenever I jump into 0.0 doesn't make this game satanic.
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