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Savage Roar Storm Thesis	Posted - 2008.11.24 04:33:00 - [1] I've just had this thought (if someone else already said it, then I haven't seen it). When you wardec someone, all toons who leave the corp should pay the wardecing the price of 1 week's war, or 10mil, whichever is lower. This is to stop people easily dodging wardecs with no downsides, at least this way they'll be funding the dec'ers if they run away, same as when a corp surrenders the war. What do you think? and yes, this is my sig. IBTL
Precisionist	Posted - 2008.11.24 05:47:00 - [2] I agree I think if you get wardec'ed then u should pay 10 mill or something higher or lower depending if alliance or how big of a corp they have maybe, and if you dont have the funds then u have to give up 1 week of skill training, this will stop ppl from dodging wars after ppl paid money for a war.
Verx Interis Amarr Modicus Dementis	Posted - 2008.11.24 06:12:00 - [3] /me looks at OP's posting and writing style.. /me looks at first response's posting and writing style.. Alt detected. But on the actual suggestion, it's not bad. Except make it 10x the cost. Eat that ya pansies. -- Your bad loan management perfectly strikes the stock market, wrecking for -777.68 points.
Kirex Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2008.11.24 06:21:00 - [4] Although I think that's a good idea, there's no way CCP will do that. ATM they think wars are "pay to grief", so if anything happens to the war dec system, it's going to go one step closer towards consensual PVP.
Alt Sauce	Posted - 2008.11.24 06:43:00 - [5] Post a reply with an alt to agree with yourself? Thats lols _________
Solomon XI Hoist The Colors. Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.11.24 07:13:00 - [6] I can't fault this idea. Leaving a corporation currently at war is a form of surrender. So why not make it somewhat costly? If you defect, you lose something. ISK, modules, something. Make it sting.
Nexus Kinnon Genos Occidere Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.11.24 07:41:00 - [7] Originally by: Verx Interis But on the actual suggestion, it's not bad. Except make it 10x the cost. Eat that ya pansies. Quotin'.
eliminator2 Gallente Fatality.	Posted - 2008.11.24 08:23:00 - [8] great idea i luv it ^^
techzer0 IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.11.24 08:25:00 - [9] Not the worst idea ever suggested... but why in C&P? ------------ Originally by: Nexus Kinnon I could outgay you even without my pink tutu. >.>
Murk Loar Polytope	Posted - 2008.11.24 10:45:00 - [10] ITT:Everyone is my alt. Also,it's a good idea.
FU22 Maximum Yarrage	Posted - 2008.11.24 12:32:00 - [11] i assume you mean that the price they have to pay to leave the corp gets paid to the Corp/alliance there at war with
Borini	Posted - 2008.11.24 13:11:00 - [12] Quite a good idea really. But it needs some tweaks: 1 placing a wardeck should cost more then the fee is now, Say 50 mil isk for the first wardec. Isk should go to the corperation you wardec. Then and only then you can get isk from someone who jumps corp.
Burn Mac Minmatar The Tuskers	Posted - 2008.11.24 13:57:00 - [13] Signed! and now get Tchell Dhann or whatever her name is who is running for next term of CSM to support it!
Valentcia Amarr	Posted - 2008.11.24 16:07:00 - [14] if this idea was implemented... just imagine how quickly and by how much, the rate of new noob corps starting up would decrease. [^_^]
VoiceInTheDesert Gallente Diplomatic Disruption	Posted - 2008.11.24 16:44:00 - [15] Edited by: VoiceInTheDesert on 24/11/2008 16:44:09 I hate carebears. But. Leaving corp is a necessary escape valve to prevent experienced merc corps from ravaging every newb mission/miner corp they come across. It sucks and it's abused, but if you disallow it or charge a fee, then you're making it too easy to just, as another poster said, "pay to grief."
Verx Interis Amarr Modicus Dementis	Posted - 2008.11.24 17:09:00 - [16] Originally by: FU22 i assume you mean that the price they have to pay to leave the corp gets paid to the Corp/alliance there at war with Yes. -- Your bad loan management perfectly strikes the stock market, wrecking for -777.68 points.
Stuart Price Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2008.11.25 03:56:00 - [17] Originally by: Valentcia if this idea was implemented... just imagine how quickly and by how much, the rate of new noob corps starting up would decrease. And this is a bad thing because? "I got soul but I'm not a soldier"
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.11.25 04:02:00 - [18] probably one of the best suggestions suggested in a while. I like it! now what happens when a player is expelled from the corp?
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.11.25 04:05:00 - [19] Originally by: Stuart Price Originally by: Valentcia if this idea was implemented... just imagine how quickly and by how much, the rate of new noob corps starting up would decrease. And this is a bad thing because? I hate corps full of noobs. noob a: I have no idea whats going on noob b: me either noob a: Lets start a corp!!! noob b: OKAY!!! noob c and d: Lets join em! noob a: okay lets go to lowsec! 10 mins later Chainsaw Plankton: wtf did that guy just fit a medium hull rep and a 50mm plate to a drake?
Rivur'Tam Fatality.	Posted - 2008.11.25 04:36:00 - [20] Originally by: Kirex Although I think that's a good idea, there's no way CCP will do that. ATM they think wars are "pay to grief", so if anything happens to the war dec system, it's going to go one step closer towards consensual PVP. QFT .. I like teh secs and teh boobies
thesonarnet Gallente The friendly Killers	Posted - 2008.11.25 06:27:00 - [21] bad idea, I was the CEO of one of such Carebear corps for a while in my early days which got war deced several times and it was the only way to avoid being destroyed. It would be a good idea if most of the wars are among equals but atm you only have some ppl who are just looking for fun and war dec "easy" targets and there's no point in letting some old chars have their fun with a couple of months old chars. The only affect it would have is that a lot of ppl stop playing the game or never join a player runned corp again. I don't get it why so many ppl just want to have their cheap fun with noobs. I know it's annoying to find targets in high sec but I gave up the whole can flipping/war dec thing after a week, because it's boring to kill those who can't protect themselves after hours of waiting and searching. It's more fun to get into a real fight in low sec and lose it then killing 10 weaker pilots in a couple of mins.
Cadela Fria Amarr x13 X13 Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.25 07:47:00 - [22] What is that I smell? Is that a new way to exploit people? And a way to make new players leave EVE?? Why YES! I think it is! 1a. You create a corp with an alt 2a. You run the corp well, cause your main corp is already a well established pirate, merc or otherwise semi-large corp. 3a. You get it full of carebears with lots of money, or just people who can't defend themselves 4a. You wardec your own corp 5a. ??? 6a. PROFIT! 1b. Someone creates a corp 2b. Someone gets lots of newbs into the corp 3b. The corp has fun 4b. Pirate corp comes along, wardecs 5b. Newbs have no money to leave or to pay for new ships 6b. The newbs quit EVE 7b. CCP loses customers In short, stupid idea, needs to be completely rethought.
Dennmoth Ferdier Scoopex	Posted - 2008.11.25 08:18:00 - [23] I've had a similar idea, but strangely, it was reversed. The wardecin' corp should automaticly pay 10 mil to everyone it griefs to leave from another highsec corp. ------ Heart for isk, Balls for risk.
Nexus Kinnon Genos Occidere Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.11.25 08:56:00 - [24] Originally by: Dennmoth Ferdier I've had a similar idea, but strangely, it was reversed. The wardecin' corp should automaticly pay 10 mil to everyone it griefs to leave from another highsec corp. What a terrible idea. It doesn't even make any sense.
Just fearless Caldari Shoal of the Intrepid Righteousness Integrity Respect Selflessness	Posted - 2008.11.25 09:03:00 - [25] i like it.. but not on 100m to leave make it around 25-50.. Or make it so that it depends on the size of the corp or the amount of timed play by the player?
Dennmoth Ferdier Scoopex	Posted - 2008.11.25 09:29:00 - [26] Originally by: Nexus Kinnon Originally by: Dennmoth Ferdier I've had a similar idea, but strangely, it was reversed. The wardecin' corp should automaticly pay 10 mil to everyone it griefs to leave from another highsec corp. What a terrible idea. It doesn't even make any sense. I intended a hint of sarcasm in my post. The point is, not everyone enjoys being griefed by wannabe PvPers who wardec industrial corps. Their only option is to leave, because other people are ruining his gameplay experience. Saying that he should actually PAY automatically 10 million for getting his game experience ruined by wannabe pvper kids is lunacy. My previous post makes just as much sense. take this for an example. if my country was invaded by other, would I pay the invading country for leaving? If you'd reverse it, it wouldn't work either, but it would make much more sense now wouldn't it? If the carebear wanted to PvP, he'd join a pvp corp, no? Somehow to me it makes much more sense for them to pay who ruin other peoples game, not those whose game gets ruined. ------ Heart for isk, Balls for risk.
Mikael Mechka	Posted - 2008.11.25 12:24:00 - [27] Originally by: Cadela Fria What is that I smell? Is that a new way to exploit people? And a way to make new players leave EVE?? Why YES! I think it is! 1a. You create a corp with an alt 2a. You run the corp well, cause your main corp is already a well established pirate, merc or otherwise semi-large corp. 3a. You get it full of carebears with lots of money, or just people who can't defend themselves 4a. You wardec your own corp 5a. ??? 6a. PROFIT! 1b. Someone creates a corp 2b. Someone gets lots of newbs into the corp 3b. The corp has fun 4b. Pirate corp comes along, wardecs 5b. Newbs have no money to leave or to pay for new ships 6b. The newbs quit EVE 7b. CCP loses customers In short, stupid idea, needs to be completely rethought. This.
N'tek alar	Posted - 2008.11.25 12:29:00 - [28] Originally by: Dennmoth Ferdier Originally by: Nexus Kinnon Originally by: Dennmoth Ferdier I've had a similar idea, but strangely, it was reversed. The wardecin' corp should automaticly pay 10 mil to everyone it griefs to leave from another highsec corp. What a terrible idea. It doesn't even make any sense. I intended a hint of sarcasm in my post. The point is, not everyone enjoys being griefed by wannabe PvPers who wardec industrial corps. Their only option is to leave, because other people are ruining his gameplay experience. Saying that he should actually PAY automatically 10 million for getting his game experience ruined by wannabe pvper kids is lunacy. My previous post makes just as much sense. take this for an example. if my country was invaded by other, would I pay the invading country for leaving? If you'd reverse it, it wouldn't work either, but it would make much more sense now wouldn't it? If the carebear wanted to PvP, he'd join a pvp corp, no? Somehow to me it makes much more sense for them to pay who ruin other peoples game, not those whose game gets ruined. Except, You know... This isn't a consensual pvp game.
dennyreborn	Posted - 2008.11.25 12:47:00 - [29] the purpose of a wardec should be to destroy the target corp. Not black mail their characters for money.
Mikael Mechka	Posted - 2008.11.25 12:49:00 - [30] Originally by: N'tek alar Except, You know... This isn't a consensual pvp game. While this is true, there is a distinct difference between non-consensual pvp, and forcing people to play the game your way or quit altogether. So you wardec an industrial corp, the people with lots of isk pay the fee and leave, leaving the newbies who have virtually nothing, no way to pay the "fee", no way to fight back. If they undock they die, so they spend their whole time confined to the station, nothing for them to do, they can't make isk via the market without first putting isk into it, which they don't have. They can't mine, or run missions, they have no isk going into their wallet. They decide they have had enough. They quit EVE. CCP loses customers. This is not good market strategy if CCP wants to attract new customers.

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