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Boomershoot Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.11.24 23:24:00 - [1] so, we got motherships, great, awesome, a little costy, buy HELL it's worth it if you have the money. tank, dps and needs a specified ship to tackle it down (or an absurd quantity of nos/neut ships) titans...AHAH OH WOW are you still arguing about their potential? cmon, they're the final weapon for any big enough alliance. now to the point: IS THAT ALL? i mean, that's all we can get from high-end capital construction? ships are still evolving and producing new concepts on old hulls, and each expansion gives us more and more sub-capital T2 ships. most of them are specialized ships that require an awesome amount of time to train all the required skills, plus another useless Rank 5-12 skill for each new ship type. then, why can't we have the same love for supercapital ships? did CCP forget about supercapitals? are they an "unwanted feature" (just like ghost training, i suppose)? TL;DR -> NEED MOAR SUPAH CAPITOL SHIPS no, i don't have enough money/skill to buy up a supercapital vessel ______________________________________________
Khemul Zula Amarr Black Plague.	Posted - 2008.11.24 23:26:00 - [2] We need T2 Motherships! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did I really need certificates to tell me I lack Basic Core Competency?
Karille Gallente Lordless	Posted - 2008.11.24 23:26:00 - [3] They're a bit hard to balance.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.11.24 23:28:00 - [4] The titan class is pretty much the end of the line, tech II titans sure, in time, anything even larger would just turn things down the road of silly. Armed outposts on the other hand... Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Boomershoot Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.11.24 23:28:00 - [5] Originally by: Khemul Zula We need T2 Motherships! i didn't say "we need more powerfull supercapitals" i just said "we need more supercapitals" like, wouldn't you like a 13b dreadnaught supercapital? ______________________________________________
Djan Anaplian Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.11.24 23:31:00 - [6] Currently there isn't much point in using a mom in 0.0 fleets over a carrier aside from possibly defending cynojammers; it would be nice to see them get a more dedicated role.
Dmian Gallente Gallenterrorisme	Posted - 2008.11.24 23:32:00 - [7] Originally by: Boomershoot Originally by: Khemul Zula We need T2 Motherships! i didn't say "we need more powerfull supercapitals" i just said "we need more supercapitals" like, wouldn't you like a 13b dreadnaught supercapital? I've heard the Jove have supercapitals... ---- Eve Alpha - The font of Eve - Get it here
Boomershoot Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.11.24 23:44:00 - [8] Originally by: Djan Anaplian Currently there isn't much point in using a mom in 0.0 fleets over a carrier aside from possibly defending cynojammers; it would be nice to see them get a more dedicated role. motherships are fine imho, you just need different superacapitals with different roles. new supercapitals and new roles. ______________________________________________
ouroboros trading Gallente Medics On Fire	Posted - 2008.11.24 23:49:00 - [9] deathstars that cost a trillion isk and can blow up other capitals in a single hit. there i said what everyone was thinking. 522528? That's Numberwang!
Djan Anaplian Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.11.24 23:51:00 - [10] Originally by: Boomershoot Originally by: Djan Anaplian Currently there isn't much point in using a mom in 0.0 fleets over a carrier aside from possibly defending cynojammers; it would be nice to see them get a more dedicated role. motherships are fine imho, you just need different superacapitals with different roles. new supercapitals and new roles. Considering you can do pretty much the same with a carrier and any advantage a mom has is offset by the extreme liability of actually using it in combat situations (practically speaking) please explain how you think they are fine?
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.11.24 23:51:00 - [11] A mining supercapital might be nice. - DesuSigs
Popperr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.11.24 23:53:00 - [12] Edited by: Popperr on 24/11/2008 23:53:46 Edited by: Popperr on 24/11/2008 23:53:28 motherships are like two carriers stuck together at ten times their cost titans are poorly thought out and need to be rebalanced pretty much from scratch
Khemul Zula Amarr Black Plague.	Posted - 2008.11.24 23:54:00 - [13] Originally by: Crumplecorn A mining supercapital might be nice. Chribba is working on it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Did I really need certificates to tell me I lack Basic Core Competency?
Boomershoot Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.11.25 00:01:00 - [14] Edited by: Boomershoot on 25/11/2008 00:03:37 Originally by: Djan Anaplian Originally by: Boomershoot Originally by: Djan Anaplian Currently there isn't much point in using a mom in 0.0 fleets over a carrier aside from possibly defending cynojammers; it would be nice to see them get a more dedicated role. motherships are fine imho, you just need different superacapitals with different roles. new supercapitals and new roles. Considering you can do pretty much the same with a carrier and any advantage a mom has is offset by the extreme liability of actually using it in combat situations (practically speaking) please explain how you think they are fine? how many smartbombing carriers have you seen near low-sec stargates camping the hell out of it even in popular hubs? now, how much would you pay to make your ship invulnerable to regular points and be only tacklable by big fleets of nos/neuting ships or 200m specialized tackler? EDIT: As of supercapital mining ships, i'd like to see a capital mining ship that can ACTUALLY USE MINING LASERS. And chribba would agree we also need capital-sized mining lasers. wouldn't you, lord of veldspar? :P ______________________________________________
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2008.11.25 00:02:00 - [15] T2 Titans! --------------------- It's me! Your lovable forum warrior!!!
Khraunus Amarr Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2008.11.25 00:05:00 - [16] No, for gods sakes. What on earth would make you think we need more supercapitals? We need more small ships that add a lot of variety in the game that newer players and casual gamers can use. Not more capitals, not more battleships. We need more variation in small ships because that's where most players are at now. Most importantly, how are you supposed to tell whether this is part of my post or my signature?
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2008.11.25 00:09:00 - [17] Ooh, for variety we could have a superdreadnoughtcarrierinterdictorstealthbomber --------------------- It's me! Your lovable forum warrior!!!
Djan Anaplian Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.11.25 00:09:00 - [18] Originally by: Boomershoot Edited by: Boomershoot on 25/11/2008 00:03:37 Originally by: Djan Anaplian Originally by: Boomershoot Originally by: Djan Anaplian Currently there isn't much point in using a mom in 0.0 fleets over a carrier aside from possibly defending cynojammers; it would be nice to see them get a more dedicated role. motherships are fine imho, you just need different superacapitals with different roles. new supercapitals and new roles. Considering you can do pretty much the same with a carrier and any advantage a mom has is offset by the extreme liability of actually using it in combat situations (practically speaking) please explain how you think they are fine? how many smartbombing carriers have you seen near low-sec stargates camping the hell out of it even in popular hubs? now, how much would you pay to make your ship invulnerable to regular points and be only tacklable by big fleets of nos/neuting ships or 200m specialized tackler? EDIT: As of supercapital mining ships, i'd like to see a capital mining ship that can ACTUALLY USE MINING LASERS. And chribba would agree we also need capital-sized mining lasers. wouldn't you, lord of veldspar? :P Have you been to lowsec lately and seen the popularity of hics? Using a mom on a gate in lowsec is tantamount to suicide nowdays.
Boomershoot Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.11.25 00:11:00 - [19] Edited by: Boomershoot on 25/11/2008 00:14:19 Originally by: Khraunus We need more variation in small ships because that's where most players are at now. is there any mechanic that hasn't been introduced in the frigate part of eve? more variety? what are you thinking about? mini-DDD frigate? Kamikaze-like frigates? cmon...the only thing you're missing are logistic-like frigates, that would be completely useless anyway due to their limitated tank and tank-potential. EDIT: Quote: Have you been to lowsec lately and seen the popularity of hics? Using a mom on a gate in lowsec is tantamount to suicide nowdays. CCP introduced hdicts to make industrials more cath-able and to heavily nerf supercapitals. MOMs weren't that weak and tackable before empyrean age, were they? now T2 industrials got boosted, and you won't catch em anyway, so the only defeated side on the infinite nerf-battle are the supercapitals (and minmatars, AH) ______________________________________________
Neesa Corrinne Rogue Shadow Squad Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.11.25 00:13:00 - [20] No! No no no no no! The unmitigated use of capital ships has pushed every other aspect of this game down the damn toilet. The last thing we need is another ship to add to power creep.
Shar'Tuk TheHated	Posted - 2008.11.25 00:14:00 - [21] Originally by: Crumplecorn A mining supercapital might be nice. What a nightmare, stuck in a super capital mining ship. DRINK RUM It fights scurvy & boosts morale! THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES!
Berious Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.11.25 00:16:00 - [22] No thanks we've already got too much Capitals Online.
Daemien Murdoc	Posted - 2008.11.25 00:17:00 - [23] Originally by: Boomershoot Originally by: Khemul Zula We need T2 Motherships! i didn't say "we need more powerfull supercapitals" i just said "we need more supercapitals" like, wouldn't you like a 13b dreadnaught supercapital? Supernaught? How much dps it has when it goes siege?
RogueAnt Minmatar R.U.S.T. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.11.25 00:18:00 - [24] ---
Djan Anaplian Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.11.25 00:18:00 - [25] Originally by: Boomershoot Edited by: Boomershoot on 25/11/2008 00:14:19 Originally by: Khraunus We need more variation in small ships because that's where most players are at now. is there any mechanic that hasn't been introduced in the frigate part of eve? more variety? what are you thinking about? mini-DDD frigate? Kamikaze-like frigates? cmon...the only thing you're missing are logistic-like frigates, that would be completely useless anyway due to their limitated tank and tank-potential. EDIT: Quote: Have you been to lowsec lately and seen the popularity of hics? Using a mom on a gate in lowsec is tantamount to suicide nowdays. CCP introduced hdicts to make industrials more cath-able and to heavily nerf supercapitals. MOMs weren't that weak and tackable before empyrean age, were they? now T2 industrials got boosted, and you won't catch em anyway, so the only defeated side on the infinite nerf-battle are the supercapitals (and minmatars, AH) Did i say they were before EA? God knows where you picked that up...
Boomershoot Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.11.25 00:21:00 - [26] Edited by: Boomershoot on 25/11/2008 00:23:14 Originally by: Djan Anaplian Did i say they were before EA? God knows where you picked that up... so you agree we need a supercapital revamp, Y/N? if Y, expose your modifications EDIT: Originally by: Neesa Corrinne No! No no no no no! The unmitigated use of capital ships has pushed every other aspect of this game down the damn toilet. The last thing we need is another ship to add to power creep. so, you're fine with each and every ship CCP introduces but you're reluctant to think of another capital ship type? ______________________________________________
Nikla Uthaan	Posted - 2008.11.25 00:22:00 - [27] Personally I'd prefer to see the glass-cannon battleships/mid-naughts specialised in taking down supercaps and not much else before I see T2 supercaps. That said and done, it'd be kinda cool, though I'd like to similarly see different standard (dockable) capships first too.
Djan Anaplian Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.11.25 00:23:00 - [28] Originally by: Boomershoot Originally by: Djan Anaplian Did i say they were before EA? God knows where you picked that up... so you agree we need a supercapital revamp, Y/N? if Y, expose your modifications No, like i said before i think motherships need a dedicated role to justify their use, NOT their price (which is fine). Expatiate on modifications to aforementioned motherships? To be perfectly honest i have no idea, but then that's not my job
Neesa Corrinne Rogue Shadow Squad Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.11.25 00:40:00 - [29] Originally by: Boomershoot so, you're fine with each and every ship CCP introduces but you're reluctant to think of another capital ship type? Yep. Absolutely. I'm not only reluctant to think about it, it's the last thing that this game needs. EvE needs to stop getting bigger and bigger and bigger and put a little more focus on some other ship classes for once. The power creep has pushed four ship classes out of this game already, the LAST thing we need is another capital ship.
Bloody Rabbit Jita Miners	Posted - 2008.11.25 00:42:00 - [30] I just want to see T2 capital mods and T2 Carriers with T2 Dreads. That's all.

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