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Earthan	Posted - 2004.07.12 10:11:00 - [31] Imho the amount of data exchanged isnt big in Eve, what really is important is ping, the time of travel to CCP server. And in this dial up is still usually much worse , as its analog technology, compared to ADSL. SO imho dial up usually is a problem for bigger battles, but from 128 kbit ADSL to 10 MB ADSL you wont see much difference. Stars, stars like dust, all around me....
Earthan	Posted - 2004.07.12 10:11:00 - [32] Imho the amount of data exchanged isnt big in Eve, what really is important is ping, the time of travel to CCP server. And in this dial up is still usually much worse , as its analog technology, compared to ADSL. SO imho dial up usually is a problem for bigger battles, but from 128 kbit ADSL to 10 MB ADSL you wont see much difference. Stars, stars like dust, all around me....
Zaldiri	Posted - 2004.07.12 10:21:00 - [33] Well considering the the Victorian history mueseum has but in a bid for the EVE servers as a meuseum piece I dont hold much hope Rise of Valhalla is now recruiting. We are looking for players of any level of experience. Please contact me or SSJ2VEGETA
Zaldiri	Posted - 2004.07.12 10:21:00 - [34] Well considering the the Victorian history mueseum has but in a bid for the EVE servers as a meuseum piece I dont hold much hope Rise of Valhalla is now recruiting. We are looking for players of any level of experience. Please contact me or SSJ2VEGETA
The Sloth	Posted - 2004.07.12 14:04:00 - [35] Originally by: Tristan Edited by: Tristan on 12/07/2004 08:17:33 Sloth, id say your ISP sucks real bad, and its time to change. 1gb limit?? thats a joke, i can download that in no time. Its two Debian CD's for example. im on a 1.5mb line, with no silly download limit. ISPs that do download limits like that do it for reasons such as:: They are over-subscribed They are broke They cant afford modern equipment They suck It is actually a 12 Gig D/L per Month - and believe it or not this is the most reasable plan (with regards to both d/l limit and price per month). The reason for this is because I live in Australia and there are only two major telecommunication companies - Telstra and Optus (Cable and Wireless). It has only been in the last few years that the telecommincation sector has been 'de-regulated'. Prior to this there was only one company and that or Telstra (Telecom) and that was publically owned. The Government privatised 49.9% of Telstra and de-regulated the Sector allowing encouraging more competition and allowing companies like Optus (the one I am with) to enter the market. Many smaller companies have also recently entered the market however Telstra and Optus are the only ones that have networks of thier own - all of the smaller companies have to rent the use of lines and cable from one of these two companies thus inflating the price of thier services. The past few years have in fact seen major decreases in prices - only 6 or so months ago it was $119.00 (AUD) for a 6 GB d/l per month (with Optus - the Telstra limit was 300mb for around $70.00 (AUD) ) - now it is $65.00 (AUD) for 12 GB per month. BTW, all these prices are for a 1MB optical fibre cable connection. So we are getting there, but boy how I envy those of you in the U.S. or Europe. The Sloth.
The Sloth	Posted - 2004.07.12 14:04:00 - [36] Originally by: Tristan Edited by: Tristan on 12/07/2004 08:17:33 Sloth, id say your ISP sucks real bad, and its time to change. 1gb limit?? thats a joke, i can download that in no time. Its two Debian CD's for example. im on a 1.5mb line, with no silly download limit. ISPs that do download limits like that do it for reasons such as:: They are over-subscribed They are broke They cant afford modern equipment They suck It is actually a 12 Gig D/L per Month - and believe it or not this is the most reasable plan (with regards to both d/l limit and price per month). The reason for this is because I live in Australia and there are only two major telecommunication companies - Telstra and Optus (Cable and Wireless). It has only been in the last few years that the telecommincation sector has been 'de-regulated'. Prior to this there was only one company and that or Telstra (Telecom) and that was publically owned. The Government privatised 49.9% of Telstra and de-regulated the Sector allowing encouraging more competition and allowing companies like Optus (the one I am with) to enter the market. Many smaller companies have also recently entered the market however Telstra and Optus are the only ones that have networks of thier own - all of the smaller companies have to rent the use of lines and cable from one of these two companies thus inflating the price of thier services. The past few years have in fact seen major decreases in prices - only 6 or so months ago it was $119.00 (AUD) for a 6 GB d/l per month (with Optus - the Telstra limit was 300mb for around $70.00 (AUD) ) - now it is $65.00 (AUD) for 12 GB per month. BTW, all these prices are for a 1MB optical fibre cable connection. So we are getting there, but boy how I envy those of you in the U.S. or Europe. The Sloth.
Cabadrin	Posted - 2004.07.12 15:17:00 - [37] Yeah, my euro corpmates are always complaining about download limits. Then I stare at my uni connection and laugh, realizing I've downloading over 5 gigs today alone :) ----------------------------------------------- Coalition Kill Board
Cabadrin	Posted - 2004.07.12 15:17:00 - [38] Yeah, my euro corpmates are always complaining about download limits. Then I stare at my uni connection and laugh, realizing I've downloading over 5 gigs today alone :) ----------------------------------------------- Coalition Kill Board
Earthan	Posted - 2004.07.12 15:54:00 - [39] Edited by: Earthan on 12/07/2004 15:56:40 Originally by: The Sloth Originally by: Tristan Edited by: Tristan on 12/07/2004 08:17:33 Sloth, id say your ISP sucks real bad, and its time to change. 1gb limit?? thats a joke, i can download that in no time. Its two Debian CD's for example. im on a 1.5mb line, with no silly download limit. ISPs that do download limits like that do it for reasons such as:: They are over-subscribed They are broke They cant afford modern equipment They suck It is actually a 12 Gig D/L per Month - and believe it or not this is the most reasable plan (with regards to both d/l limit and price per month). The reason for this is because I live in Australia and there are only two major telecommunication companies - Telstra and Optus (Cable and Wireless). It has only been in the last few years that the telecommincation sector has been 'de-regulated'. Prior to this there was only one company and that or Telstra (Telecom) and that was publically owned. The Government privatised 49.9% of Telstra and de-regulated the Sector allowing encouraging more competition and allowing companies like Optus (the one I am with) to enter the market. Many smaller companies have also recently entered the market however Telstra and Optus are the only ones that have networks of thier own - all of the smaller companies have to rent the use of lines and cable from one of these two companies thus inflating the price of thier services. The past few years have in fact seen major decreases in prices - only 6 or so months ago it was $119.00 (AUD) for a 6 GB d/l per month (with Optus - the Telstra limit was 300mb for around $70.00 (AUD) ) - now it is $65.00 (AUD) for 12 GB per month. BTW, all these prices are for a 1MB optical fibre cable connection. So we are getting there, but boy how I envy those of you in the U.S. or Europe. The Sloth. Wow and i was pretty sure nobody gets it harder then we in Poland. Thats bad man , we also had monopoly 3-4 years ago, but it ahs fast changed.Atm i have 512/128 kb adsl with no limit for around 45 us dollars, but you can get with 128/64 kb with 15 gig limit for around 15 us dollars.And its still damn expensive compared to Germany. Seriously 12 gig or 15 gig per month is quite big unless you download movies. Stars, stars like dust, all around me....
Earthan	Posted - 2004.07.12 15:54:00 - [40] Edited by: Earthan on 12/07/2004 15:56:40 Originally by: The Sloth Originally by: Tristan Edited by: Tristan on 12/07/2004 08:17:33 Sloth, id say your ISP sucks real bad, and its time to change. 1gb limit?? thats a joke, i can download that in no time. Its two Debian CD's for example. im on a 1.5mb line, with no silly download limit. ISPs that do download limits like that do it for reasons such as:: They are over-subscribed They are broke They cant afford modern equipment They suck It is actually a 12 Gig D/L per Month - and believe it or not this is the most reasable plan (with regards to both d/l limit and price per month). The reason for this is because I live in Australia and there are only two major telecommunication companies - Telstra and Optus (Cable and Wireless). It has only been in the last few years that the telecommincation sector has been 'de-regulated'. Prior to this there was only one company and that or Telstra (Telecom) and that was publically owned. The Government privatised 49.9% of Telstra and de-regulated the Sector allowing encouraging more competition and allowing companies like Optus (the one I am with) to enter the market. Many smaller companies have also recently entered the market however Telstra and Optus are the only ones that have networks of thier own - all of the smaller companies have to rent the use of lines and cable from one of these two companies thus inflating the price of thier services. The past few years have in fact seen major decreases in prices - only 6 or so months ago it was $119.00 (AUD) for a 6 GB d/l per month (with Optus - the Telstra limit was 300mb for around $70.00 (AUD) ) - now it is $65.00 (AUD) for 12 GB per month. BTW, all these prices are for a 1MB optical fibre cable connection. So we are getting there, but boy how I envy those of you in the U.S. or Europe. The Sloth. Wow and i was pretty sure nobody gets it harder then we in Poland. Thats bad man , we also had monopoly 3-4 years ago, but it ahs fast changed.Atm i have 512/128 kb adsl with no limit for around 45 us dollars, but you can get with 128/64 kb with 15 gig limit for around 15 us dollars.And its still damn expensive compared to Germany. Seriously 12 gig or 15 gig per month is quite big unless you download movies. Stars, stars like dust, all around me....
Monty Burns	Posted - 2004.07.12 16:11:00 - [41] Originally by: hatchette ..... which is substantially more than 56k modem can handle (~6KB/s) Never see network usage on Eve go above 6k's (btw: a modem can handle 7k's (56/8) ) but then I also live in London so my ping times are gona be nice n quick as some of the servers are down the road. I'm also on a big fat sexy 3meg line (for England thats good!). I also participate in very large fleet battles - almost 200 ships the last time - and never really get any comms lag, its mainly video proccessing delays. Answer: Check your ping times, if they are good then don't worry about upgrading. The actual volume is very small. Although, I bet your just gagging for an excuse aren't you ... go on sir, admit it <grin> Be happy all! Darwin 4tw
Monty Burns	Posted - 2004.07.12 16:11:00 - [42] Originally by: hatchette ..... which is substantially more than 56k modem can handle (~6KB/s) Never see network usage on Eve go above 6k's (btw: a modem can handle 7k's (56/8) ) but then I also live in London so my ping times are gona be nice n quick as some of the servers are down the road. I'm also on a big fat sexy 3meg line (for England thats good!). I also participate in very large fleet battles - almost 200 ships the last time - and never really get any comms lag, its mainly video proccessing delays. Answer: Check your ping times, if they are good then don't worry about upgrading. The actual volume is very small. Although, I bet your just gagging for an excuse aren't you ... go on sir, admit it <grin> Be happy all! Darwin 4tw
Bele gorri	Posted - 2004.07.12 16:46:00 - [43] Originally by: Monty Burns Answer: Check your ping times, if they are good then don't worry about upgrading. The actual volume is very small. Although, I bet your just gagging for an excuse aren't you ... go on sir, admit it <grin> Be happy all! ... And what would be good ping times? i've a 56K dial-up and it's terrible.
Bele gorri	Posted - 2004.07.12 16:46:00 - [44] Originally by: Monty Burns Answer: Check your ping times, if they are good then don't worry about upgrading. The actual volume is very small. Although, I bet your just gagging for an excuse aren't you ... go on sir, admit it <grin> Be happy all! ... And what would be good ping times? i've a 56K dial-up and it's terrible.
Monty Burns	Posted - 2004.07.12 16:59:00 - [45] Originally by: Bele gorri Originally by: Monty Burns Answer: Check your ping times, if they are good then don't worry about upgrading. The actual volume is very small. Although, I bet your just gagging for an excuse aren't you ... go on sir, admit it <grin> Be happy all! ... And what would be good ping times? i've a 56K dial-up and it's terrible. Anything under 300ms would be good at a guess. If your 1000+ then you have problems! Darwin 4tw
Monty Burns	Posted - 2004.07.12 16:59:00 - [46] Originally by: Bele gorri Originally by: Monty Burns Answer: Check your ping times, if they are good then don't worry about upgrading. The actual volume is very small. Although, I bet your just gagging for an excuse aren't you ... go on sir, admit it <grin> Be happy all! ... And what would be good ping times? i've a 56K dial-up and it's terrible. Anything under 300ms would be good at a guess. If your 1000+ then you have problems! Darwin 4tw
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.07.12 17:11:00 - [47] I was under the impression Eve was optimized for 56k. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.07.12 17:11:00 - [48] I was under the impression Eve was optimized for 56k. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Kular	Posted - 2004.07.12 17:21:00 - [49] I started Eve on a DSL connection at the University I attend, but after last semester I moved and now play from a 56k :< Honestly theres not much difference from what I've seen. Yes fights are a bit more difficult and it has teken me awhile to relaize I don't have the amazing load/reaction times I did on DSL, but I still can handle fleet and solo battles Along with NPC hunting soloing groups of 3 BS most the time. The real difference is in the load time for everything, once you get use to it, its not that bad. Just realize this your screen may not be moving, but the module you click 30 secs ago is actually working I find it kinda fun to jump in lock target set my orbit hit all my mods then wait a min to see how the fights going Home of Ubiqua Seraph Eve's only all Sarum loyal corporation.
Kular	Posted - 2004.07.12 17:21:00 - [50] I started Eve on a DSL connection at the University I attend, but after last semester I moved and now play from a 56k :< Honestly theres not much difference from what I've seen. Yes fights are a bit more difficult and it has teken me awhile to relaize I don't have the amazing load/reaction times I did on DSL, but I still can handle fleet and solo battles Along with NPC hunting soloing groups of 3 BS most the time. The real difference is in the load time for everything, once you get use to it, its not that bad. Just realize this your screen may not be moving, but the module you click 30 secs ago is actually working I find it kinda fun to jump in lock target set my orbit hit all my mods then wait a min to see how the fights going Home of Ubiqua Seraph Eve's only all Sarum loyal corporation.

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