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Leo Achura
Segunda Fundacion INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.11.28 08:49:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Zivoril
Oh cough ok a Rokh, with 2 Hybrid and 4 T2 cruise is gay! I should now buY a drake? Guess fuking what? I will, and so will every single Caldari player- because BS are weak and the Drake is the Bomb? You and all who dont know What ccp did are as useless as CPP and have no idea what CCp destroyed- the Caldari BS!@
If you fited a Rokh with Cruise launchers you shouldnt be crying... you should be making missions or something.
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Rehtom Lamina
ECM Space Patrol
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Posted - 2008.11.28 08:56:00 -
[62]
Not noticed any major difference since the patch, mainly fly a nighthawk and i know that got an indirect buff from the patch.
Corpmates that fly ravens, golems and CNR's have not expressed any issues.
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Tippia
Caldari Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2008.11.28 09:08:00 -
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I'm sorry… Sometimes, a troll is just too god/awful not to respond to. 
Originally by: Zivoril Almost every single Caldari pilot now knows how - UTTERLY AND COMPLETELY USELESS MISSLES HAVE BECOME.
[…] I just flew a Rohk and got owned, by a drake? WTF!
Ell Emm A Oh! Missiles are so bad that my turret battleship was killed by a missile battlecruiser! That's a compelling argument right there. 
Quote: Caldari pilots looked then realized! Regardless of your whine, Missles are all we have! Now, should we turn drones?
Caldari pilots with a brain realised a long time ago that drones are a must, and as luck would have it, most Cally combat ships have ample room for drones. Oh, and the fact that you're claiming that "missiles are all we have" only shows that you are not a Caldari pilot — real Cally pilots know that half the Caldari ships are turret boats… including, and in particular, the Rokh.
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Lord Future
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.11.28 11:08:00 -
[64]
As a noob and a carebear, I have avoided writing in the forums as I feel my lack of experience would offend veteran players. I can no longer keep quiet. The OP is one of the latest sufferers of a contagious disease spreading throughout Eve Online called Caniculae Gannitus. The three main symptoms are...
- Ill-tempered utterances about how they can no longer make easy kills.
- Absolute refusal to adapt to the change in circumstances.
- Insistance that CPP should alter the game so that they have an overwhelming advantage over other players.
This disease is often aggravated by replying to the patient's posts through the forum. Even if CPP totally revamped the game by giving all players exactly the same skill points and exactly the same ship (Size of a frigate, Speed 6000 m/s, Firepower/Tanking of a Sieged Dread and Webber/Bubble combo with a range of 1 AU), They would still whine because of the inability to rack up kills. As there is no cure, it is best we take these sufferers out to a field and put them out of their misery, thus improving the game for the players who understand that Eve is an unforgiving environment and if you can't play the cards your dealt, draw some more.
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Jalif
Scorpion's Sting
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Posted - 2008.11.28 11:10:00 -
[65]
Missiles are just fine
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Eran Laude
Gallente The Aduro Protocol Doctrine.
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Posted - 2008.11.28 11:15:00 -
[66]
Missiles are fine.
I'm a Gallente bomber pilot FFS and there's very little difference pre and post QR.
Also, learn to read ship bonuses. The Rokh is a Fleet Sniper, not a solowtfpwnbbq Missile BS. That's why you got owned when fitting cruise launchers.
Finally, troll with your main, not your alt:
0/10
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Jhagiti Tyran
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2008.11.28 11:16:00 -
[67]
I fly Caldari ships and use missiles and they are fine and in some circumstances they are better than they where before (ie T2 missiles are actually worth using and are very good now)
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.11.28 11:26:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Venkul Mul on 28/11/2008 11:28:42
Originally by: Zivoril
Almost every single Caldari pilot now knows how - UTTERLY AND COMPLETELY USELESS MISSLES HAVE BECOME. Yes, Caps are more than needed!
I just flew a Rohk and got owned, by a drake? WTF! NO, I will NOT- post the kill mail! I will state even the pilot of of the Drake admitted that-what CCP did is a horrible NERF- beyond any reasonable expectations~!
What even worse is CCP now at this point knows it. What use to be an average Raven battleship with T2 is now the worst Battle ship in the game AND EVERY CALDARI PILOT KNOWS IT!
I ponder does CCP even care? Will they fix what they have destroyed!@ Yes my indeed this post is the final CCP waKE UP!
Ehem: "a Rohk" "missiles" "owned by a Drake"
So if I get it right, you were using a unbonused weapon (missiles) on a BS and was destroyed by another missile firing BC with a missile bonus, and that is the prove that missiles are useless?
To me it seem the prove that unbonused weapons are useless.
Originally by: Zivoril
Oh cough ok a Rokh, with 2 Hybrid and 4 T2 cruise is gay! I should now buY a drake? Guess fuking what? I will, and so will every single Caldari player- because BS are weak and the Drake is the Bomb? You and all who dont know What ccp did are as useless as CPP and have no idea what CCp destroyed- the Caldari BS!@
That is a total of 6 high slots, what are you doing with the other 2?
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Bohoba
Caldari HolyKnights
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Posted - 2008.11.28 11:27:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Zivoril Edited by: Zivoril on 28/11/2008 01:42:37 Edited by: Zivoril on 28/11/2008 01:41:44 Almost every single Caldari pilot now knows how - UTTERLY AND COMPLETELY USELESS MISSLES HAVE BECOME. Yes, Caps are more than needed!
I just flew a Rohk and got owned, by a drake? WTF! NO, I will NOT- post the kill mail! I will state even the pilot of of the Drake admitted that-what CCP did is a horrible NERF- beyond any reasonable expectations~!
What even worse is CCP now at this point knows it. What use to be an average Raven battleship with T2 is now the worst Battle ship in the game AND EVERY CALDARI PILOT KNOWS IT!
I ponder does CCP even care? Will they fix what they have destroyed!@ Yes my indeed this post is the final CCP waKE UP!
Just do what I did started a new char and now my 70mill cald is mining in empire :) what a waste of 5 years
....................... 10.5 hours a day do you have what it takes ?
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Doomed Predator
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.11.28 11:30:00 -
[70]
I like my Cerberus and Nighthawk,don't really fly a raven since it's like a brick so I don't really care. What I would like to see is a collision system where guided missiles would avoid debris/friendly ships/non primary hostile ships at the expense of range and turret ships would have to either move so they could get a clear shot or waste XX% damage on debris/friendly ships/non primary hostile ships and thus gimping their dps. The 'Fendahlian Collective' strikes again |
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Karille
Gallente Lordless
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Posted - 2008.11.28 11:32:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Doomed Predator I like my Cerberus and Nighthawk,don't really fly a raven since it's like a brick so I don't really care. What I would like to see is a collision system where guided missiles would avoid debris/friendly ships/non primary hostile ships at the expense of range and turret ships would have to either move so they could get a clear shot or waste XX% damage on debris/friendly ships/non primary hostile ships and thus gimping their dps.
Used to be that way for missiles, they changed it because turrets didn't have to move.
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Hyveres
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.28 11:34:00 -
[72]
Torps and HAMs are fine.
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Phenomena X
Galactic PeaceMaking Talon Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.28 11:35:00 -
[73]
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!AHAHAH"QH"HQAAH"HQAHAHAHAHA
MAn I love these threads! Pre-nerf you where all whining how ships out ran missiles and it's so broken.. NERF NANO'S!!! Thread after thread and the fix was this! You wanted the nerf, so live with it, or should I say... Adapt or die - lmao
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manfrog
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.11.28 11:49:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Phenomena X HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!AHAHAH"QH"HQAAH"HQAHAHAHAHA
MAn I love these threads! Pre-nerf you where all whining how ships out ran missiles and it's so broken.. NERF NANO'S!!! Thread after thread and the fix was this! You wanted the nerf, so live with it, or should I say... Adapt or die - lmao
the problem is they didn't nerf nanos just rails and missles sure they slowed em down a bit but then they nurffed webbers also and all the needed tools to catch the nano*** so this was a Nano Boost thats all it was
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WoW that way ------->>>>
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KwaLevu
Caldari SentBySatan
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Posted - 2008.11.28 12:11:00 -
[75]
I'm not sure what he is on about I hit BS and BC and even Cruisers well. I had to admit to my corp mates that galente drones were better but other then that I have no problems with the Nerf if there was one.
thats my 2 cents 
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.11.28 12:12:00 -
[76]
Originally by: manfrog
Originally by: Phenomena X HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!AHAHAH"QH"HQAAH"HQAHAHAHAHA
MAn I love these threads! Pre-nerf you where all whining how ships out ran missiles and it's so broken.. NERF NANO'S!!! Thread after thread and the fix was this! You wanted the nerf, so live with it, or should I say... Adapt or die - lmao
the problem is they didn't nerf nanos just rails and missles sure they slowed em down a bit but then they nurffed webbers also and all the needed tools to catch the nano*** so this was a Nano Boost thats all it was
Lol?
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.11.28 12:15:00 -
[77]
u achuras shouldn't have whined about nano hehehehehe uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ
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Glengrant
TOHA Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.11.28 13:02:00 -
[78]
OP confused me.
He claims that missiles have become useless.
And then he tells us that his Rokh got owned by a Drake - one of the most missilish of all missile boats.
So I assume the Drake used missiles?
Err - what? --- Save the forum: Think before you post. ISK BUYER = LOOSER EVE TV- Bring it back!
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Malcanis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.28 13:05:00 -
[79]
Originally by: manfrog
Originally by: Phenomena X HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!AHAHAH"QH"HQAAH"HQAHAHAHAHA
MAn I love these threads! Pre-nerf you where all whining how ships out ran missiles and it's so broken.. NERF NANO'S!!! Thread after thread and the fix was this! You wanted the nerf, so live with it, or should I say... Adapt or die - lmao
the problem is they didn't nerf nanos just rails and missles sure they slowed em down a bit but then they nurffed webbers also and all the needed tools to catch the nano*** so this was a Nano Boost thats all it was
You were perhaps expecting that post-nerf, your missiles would always hit for ~full damage? 
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LordSwift
INTERSTELLAR ENTERPRISE StarFleet Federation
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Posted - 2008.11.28 13:05:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Zivoril Edited by: Zivoril on 28/11/2008 01:42:37 Edited by: Zivoril on 28/11/2008 01:41:44 Almost every single Caldari pilot now knows how - UTTERLY AND COMPLETELY USELESS MISSLES HAVE BECOME. Yes, Caps are more than needed!
I just flew a Rohk and got owned, by a drake? WTF! NO, I will NOT- post the kill mail! I will state even the pilot of of the Drake admitted that-what CCP did is a horrible NERF- beyond any reasonable expectations~!
What even worse is CCP now at this point knows it. What use to be an average Raven battleship with T2 is now the worst Battle ship in the game AND EVERY CALDARI PILOT KNOWS IT!
I ponder does CCP even care? Will they fix what they have destroyed!@ Yes my indeed this post is the final CCP waKE UP!
No they are not worthless. I am doing fine on missions and 0.0 Battleship NPC's for Example : Killmail
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Karille
Gallente Lordless
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Posted - 2008.11.28 13:08:00 -
[81]
My drake was equipped with the following:
250mm Mind bullets x6
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Kyle Blade
Kestrel Security Company
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Posted - 2008.11.28 13:11:00 -
[82]
Oh noes!!!
It now takes me four volleys to take down "Seven" Cruisers with the same set-up it took me three to take out pre-patch.
Oh noes!!!
I now drop light drones out on frigates when they get to me in exactly the same way as I did pre-patch.
Oh noes!!!
Sorry... I seem to have completely forgotten what I was going to whine about.
Move along people. Nothing to see here.
I'm using exactly the same set-up on my mission cruise Raven that I have been for at least a year, I'm not going to say that I haven't noticed any difference but missiles are far from broken. Invest the time in training Target Navigation Prediction and Guided Missile Precision - It's not Rocket Science (that's in the science group ).
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TehEbil1
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Posted - 2008.11.28 13:29:00 -
[83]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfrTAt_m1po |

Gankbear
Amarr Gankbears
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Posted - 2008.11.28 13:48:00 -
[84]
if caldari missiles are cruise how did you get pwned by a caldari missile boat in a caldari turret boat?
becuase you are complete fail.
with added fail sauce.
Heres your solution:
Go to program manager and select - uninstall - eve
that should solve all yours (and ours listening to your noob drivel) problems.
but anyway good luck in the failure to read the instructions competition.
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Gankbears Sarcasm hits fail thread for 249 lolcatz causing it to be locked. CCP Mitnal laid the final blow.
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Misina Arlath
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.11.28 14:06:00 -
[85]
Considering your constant mis-spelling...
Originally by: Zivoril CCP- Caldari peeps unite! Missles are worthless!
Originally by: Zivoril COMPLETELY USELESS MISSLES HAVE BECOME.
Originally by: Zivoril is every Caldari pilot that flys a T2 Missle ships
Originally by: Zivoril Hundred posts to CCP Mess up of the Missles!
Originally by: Zivoril straight witness to the Missle Nerf!
Originally by: Zivoril who dont fly missle ships
Originally by: Zivoril 1)Fly a missle ship before the patch!
Originally by: Zivoril Every -missle aspect up
Originally by: Zivoril where even missle ship owners
Originally by: Zivoril Those WHO say Missles
Originally by: Zivoril Missles are all we have!
Originally by: Zivoril Dont bother training missles
Originally by: Zivoril why waste 10 mil SP on missles
Originally by: Zivoril some of us like the missles
Originally by: Zivoril reason I dunno mabye to use missles
Originally by: Zivoril broke the missles
Originally by: Zivoril look at all missles
... I can't for the life of me imagine how you're such a missile fanatic. Considering your strong point of view, I'd at least think you knew how to spell the topic properly.
As for missiles, Caldari have been mission-kings for years. Stuff a sock in it and get used to running missions at a normal pace like everyone else.
As for your PvP, you got owned by a missile boat, and complain about how bad missiles are? Your logic is flawed.
Besides trolling, what were you talking about again?
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Rachel Voegel
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Posted - 2008.11.28 14:52:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Zivoril Edited by: Zivoril on 28/11/2008 01:42:37 Edited by: Zivoril on 28/11/2008 01:41:44 Almost every single Caldari pilot now knows how - UTTERLY AND COMPLETELY USELESS MISSLES HAVE BECOME. Yes, Caps are more than needed!
I just flew a Rohk and got owned, by a drake? WTF!
I'm confused - how can missiles be useless if you got owned by a missile boat ?
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Zurrar
Gallente Universal Exports FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.11.28 15:07:00 -
[87]
you haz issues dood-
raven is a perfect torp boat, when ever i shoot a target i get top dmg (target has to be webbed and painted thats what mates are for!)
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7Genius
Gallente Damage Distribution Incorporated Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.28 15:21:00 -
[88]
BEST NERF EVER   
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Sonisha
Minmatar Immortal Kings
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Posted - 2008.11.28 15:22:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Sonisha on 28/11/2008 15:24:27 welcome to the caldari equivalent of the minmatar gun nerf a few years back where everything hit nothing even with max skills - feels your pain, i just dont sympathise
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Kaar
Art of War Exalted.
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Posted - 2008.11.28 15:29:00 -
[90]
Actually I've never used my raven/golem/cerb more than I am now, after this 'terrible' patch.
Maybe you guys just suck?
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