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Seaden
Gallente OBSIDIAN FLEET
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Posted - 2008.11.29 01:53:00 -
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Edited by: Seaden on 29/11/2008 01:53:53 Okay, I knew this player that had a capital ship in low sec. He wasn't fitted witch was stupid on part but what I'm trying to get at is that something as small as a frigate could bump him and disrupt his alignment to get away from the other ships. What i am saying is that you need to fix this, there is no way logically that a small frig would be able to nudge a frigate, if at all anything the frigate would just bash into its armor and deal alittle damage but not make the capital ship.
Bottom line, Fit it, make it where if something is smaller mass then another ship then that ship will have to be bumped off instead of making the larger, heavier more massed shouldn't budge.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.11.29 02:04:00 -
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The only thing worse than this thread is spamming public channels to have people post in your thread.
Bottom line, don't post.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Captain Falcord
Gallente Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.11.29 02:05:00 -
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Dude, you sound like yoda on drugs ---<---@ JackFalcord |

Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey
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Posted - 2008.11.29 02:06:00 -
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Edited by: Eventy One on 29/11/2008 02:05:58 Small frigate you say? Heck, you should see what bouncing off a small deployed can, will do to your cap ship.
It'll bounce you into next week. Hence, avoid small objects in space. They're nasty!
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N3oXr2ii
X10 Punishment
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Posted - 2008.11.29 02:08:00 -
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In the last patch they made changes to the collsion system is seems its been made worse i do agree thou a frig shoudn't be able to bump a dread
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Zo5o
Longcat is Long
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Posted - 2008.11.29 02:09:00 -
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Quote: there is no way logically that a small frig would be able to nudge a frigate
And there is no way logically that a ship in space would slow down after turning off their afterburner, let alone even have a maximum speed to begin with.
Your point?
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Seaden
Gallente OBSIDIAN FLEET
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Posted - 2008.11.29 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Eventy One Edited by: Eventy One on 29/11/2008 02:05:58 Small frigate you say? Heck, you should see what bouncing off a small deployed can, will do to your cap ship.
It'll bounce you into next week. Hence, avoid small objects in space. They're nasty!
The point is tho, that shouldn't be poss able. and 2ed of all, i didn't spam, posted once and that was it. Also do you not think its not logical? i mean we have a real working market... Aline times for our mass and such, don't you see it un-realistic to have something so small be able to send a huge carrier to move a few hundred meters?
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Captain Falcord
Gallente Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.11.29 02:11:00 -
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Originally by: Zo5o let alone even have a maximum speed to begin with.
Speed of light? :P
True nano***s go 300,000,000 m/s ---<---@ JackFalcord |

motomysz
Militek Industries Integrity Respect Selflessness
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Posted - 2008.11.29 02:11:00 -
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The real question is, "If he was just being bumped, why didn't he cyno out?"
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Leeroy Mabo
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Posted - 2008.11.29 02:15:00 -
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You cant play EVE as an game as if its real world/space... Do you know how much energy is in a small object when it flies with 3km/sec and weights 1mil kg and has no abrasion (as it is in space...)? it would destroy your cap i guess...
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Seaden
Gallente OBSIDIAN FLEET
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Posted - 2008.11.29 02:20:00 -
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Originally by: Leeroy Mabo You cant play EVE as an game as if its real world/space... Do you know how much energy is in a small object when it flies with 3km/sec and weights 1mil kg and has no abrasion (as it is in space...)? it would destroy your cap i guess...
t the point is that the small object should be the one to bounce off, the agressor not the ship being bumped into. For say, Target A is moving 50 M/S but target B is moving 75M/S towards Target A thus meaning that target B is the aggressor. Or just add collision damage to ship Vs ship and problem solved, that way a small frig will go boom be for long or will have to stop.
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Leeroy Mabo
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Posted - 2008.11.29 02:22:00 -
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yeah suizide bombers \o/ but ure right with the bouncing... ;)
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Seaden
Gallente OBSIDIAN FLEET
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Posted - 2008.11.29 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: Leeroy Mabo yeah suizide bombers \o/ but ure right with the bouncing... ;)
Yes suicide bombing would be awesome add on to the game, make it alittle funner and interesting!
Another thing as i said before the Carrier wasn't equipped, he didn't have training to use it yet but was moving it to another location.
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.11.29 02:29:00 -
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screw the frigate or the small can .... pos sheild going active, that should ruin a good 20 minutes of your life
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Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey
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Posted - 2008.11.29 02:37:00 -
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Originally by: Seaden The point is tho, that shouldn't be poss able.
Don't look for RL physics here. Its a game. Faster than light speed isn't ... possible. Anchoring things in space ... isn't possible.
The list goes on.
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.11.29 02:41:00 -
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you frogto the fundemnatl , pod travelling isnt possible
and also quafe isnt possible
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Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey
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Posted - 2008.11.29 03:43:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C ... and also quafe isnt possible
Quafe isn't possible?
Damn, I had my hopes up.
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Princess Jessica
Minmatar Universal Assembler
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Posted - 2008.11.29 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C
and also quafe isnt possible
Lies! CCP has sold Quafe before.
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Black Plague.
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Posted - 2008.11.29 08:21:00 -
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Edited by: Khemul Zula on 29/11/2008 08:24:43
Originally by: Seaden ...there is no way logically that a small frigate would be able to nudge a Large ship like a capital ship...
Proof or stfu. Saying something is logical does not make it so. What proof do you have that a object the size of a frigate can't move an object the size of a carrier?
Real life experimental proof only please. No quoting some physics textbook that'll probably be proven wrong within the century. 
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Vikarion
Caldari White Rose Society
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Posted - 2008.11.29 08:27:00 -
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The proof is simple. Fire a .50 bullet at an M1a2 Abrams tank. Which moves?
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Drachma Golea
Caldari hunter killers
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Posted - 2008.11.29 08:27:00 -
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Funny to hear so many people with sound turned off... just like in space 
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Khemul Zula
Amarr Black Plague.
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Posted - 2008.11.29 08:32:00 -
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Edited by: Khemul Zula on 29/11/2008 08:34:01
Originally by: Vikarion The proof is simple. Fire a .50 bullet at an M1a2 Abrams tank. Which moves?
That would take place on the surface of the planet. Things also fall down instead of up on a planet. Proves nothing. 
Could we get the tank into deep space? That may work.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.11.29 08:50:00 -
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agreed, bumping should only bump if your mass is at least within some sort of limit. if your way lighter you should bounce off the cap ship and cap ship should be fine.
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AkRoYeR
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.11.29 09:20:00 -
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Let me school you:
1. Ships have shields. 2. Shields repel things. 3. Law of physics Force = Mass x Acceleration 4. Law of physics a kinetic object that hits an object sitting still no matter what size transfers its force to that object 5. So to sum this up, shields protect ships from colliding so therefore a small frigate going fast increases its mass overall and can bump a big ship and move it in a free floating environment.
School is out!
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Splash Whale
Ctrl-Q Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.29 10:35:00 -
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If you don't want your capital ship to be bumped in space, fit a smartbobm and light it off as soon as that frigate is in range and start laughing.
If you're in a POS shield and complain about being bumped out by a small frigate then set your POS passwords right or clean newbies from your corp.
It's easy as that. A small frigate should be able to hamper your movement that much, but in a capital ship you are able to almost instapop him. Just kill it, I know you want to. ----
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Felix Dzerzhinsky
Caldari Wreckless Abandon G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.11.29 11:56:00 -
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Yes, CCP is looking at bumping and are planning to do something about it soon(tm).
By the time they do fix it, you will laugh at this post and yourself. ----
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Firkragg
Blue Labs Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.11.29 12:06:00 -
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something with the mass of a frigate doing 1k a sec will do a hell of alot of damage on impact if you dont avoid it. Theres your role play reason.
Nothing wrong with bumping its a valid tactic. Its not like they can bump you off a station in a frig.
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Terraform
Gallente Recreation Of The World
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Posted - 2008.11.29 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Leeroy Mabo You cant play EVE as an game as if its real world/space... Do you know how much energy is in a small object when it flies with 3km/sec and weights 1mil kg and has no abrasion (as it is in space...)? it would destroy your cap i guess...
Actually, the frig would be destroyed as it would go POOF on the Caps shields.
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rValdez5987
Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.
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Posted - 2008.11.29 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: Seaden Edited by: Seaden on 29/11/2008 02:12:57 Edited by: Seaden on 29/11/2008 01:53:53 Okay, I knew this player that had a capital ship in low sec. He wasn't fitted witch was stupid on part but what I'm trying to get at is that something as small as a frigate could bump him and disrupt his alignment to get away from the other ships. What i am saying is that you need to fix this, there is no way logically that a small frigate would be able to nudge a Large ship like a capital ship, if at all anything the frigate would just bash into its armor and deal alittle damage but not make the capital ship.
Bottom line, Fit it, make it where if something is smaller mass then another ship then that ship will have to be bumped off instead of making the larger, heavier more massed shouldn't budge.
This looks like a translator. From what I am not sure.
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Karille
Gallente Lordless
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Posted - 2008.11.29 12:35:00 -
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This is what a capital ship does when it's about to run into something.
I'm not surprised.
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