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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.12 19:48:00 -
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Edited by: Cruz on 12/07/2004 19:49:41
Seriously it needs a little loving!!
Can we get a slight PG boost please please please!!! The maller needs one just as badly as the armageddona and apocalypse did before and the same that all other turret cruisers got.
Also, could you guys upgrade the drone bay on all tier III cruisers? a 0 drone bay is real bad considering that a thorax can equal your damage output with 5x blasters, and then double/triple it over a maller with 8 ogres >.<
PG boost is first though, drone bay ehh whatever, but it needs a PG boost!!! so does the omen too imo.
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.12 19:48:00 -
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Edited by: Cruz on 12/07/2004 19:49:41
Seriously it needs a little loving!!
Can we get a slight PG boost please please please!!! The maller needs one just as badly as the armageddona and apocalypse did before and the same that all other turret cruisers got.
Also, could you guys upgrade the drone bay on all tier III cruisers? a 0 drone bay is real bad considering that a thorax can equal your damage output with 5x blasters, and then double/triple it over a maller with 8 ogres >.<
PG boost is first though, drone bay ehh whatever, but it needs a PG boost!!! so does the omen too imo.
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.12 20:04:00 -
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Edited by: Cruz on 12/07/2004 20:07:50
Edited by: Cruz on 12/07/2004 20:07:05
Yeah I have to use 1 RCU and 4 PDUs in order to fit 5x heavy pulse, MWD, and a med armor repairer... its a pain in the ass, id rather like to fit a heatsink or a hardener then so many PDUs/RCUs
Brian- with modulated heavy pulse lasers and good skills, mallers have a very ver very good DOT with decent range. Plus they are great tanks, but not both cuz of the ****ty powergrid  and IMO the omen sucks for agent running because it doesnt have enough grid to fit any good weapons...
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.12 20:04:00 -
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Edited by: Cruz on 12/07/2004 20:07:50
Edited by: Cruz on 12/07/2004 20:07:05
Yeah I have to use 1 RCU and 4 PDUs in order to fit 5x heavy pulse, MWD, and a med armor repairer... its a pain in the ass, id rather like to fit a heatsink or a hardener then so many PDUs/RCUs
Brian- with modulated heavy pulse lasers and good skills, mallers have a very ver very good DOT with decent range. Plus they are great tanks, but not both cuz of the ****ty powergrid and IMO the omen sucks for agent running because it doesnt have enough grid to fit any good weapons...
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.12 23:55:00 -
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cmooon im dying for some more PG!!!
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.12 23:55:00 -
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cmooon im dying for some more PG!!!
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.13 17:04:00 -
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On my maller for agent running and some ratting I use
Hi: 2x Modulated Heavy Pulse, 3x Anode Heavy Pulse, 1x Small SB
Med: 1x 10mn MWD, 2x Cap Recharger
Lo: Med Armor Repairer II, 1x RCU, 4x PDU
Granted I only have engineering III and with engineering IV I could drop the RCU for another PDU, I would really really like to stick in some hardeners in there >.<
I find Focused beams overly weak too, they do very very veyr little damage IMO. The named Heavy Pulse lasers on the other hand  scare the crap out of my mates in battleships, I can rip their shields in a few volleys!!
But more PG pleease!!! Mallers should be able to use heavy pulse lasers without all that PG loss!!
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.13 17:04:00 -
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On my maller for agent running and some ratting I use
Hi: 2x Modulated Heavy Pulse, 3x Anode Heavy Pulse, 1x Small SB
Med: 1x 10mn MWD, 2x Cap Recharger
Lo: Med Armor Repairer II, 1x RCU, 4x PDU
Granted I only have engineering III and with engineering IV I could drop the RCU for another PDU, I would really really like to stick in some hardeners in there >.<
I find Focused beams overly weak too, they do very very veyr little damage IMO. The named Heavy Pulse lasers on the other hand scare the crap out of my mates in battleships, I can rip their shields in a few volleys!!
But more PG pleease!!! Mallers should be able to use heavy pulse lasers without all that PG loss!!
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.13 22:40:00 -
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Edited by: Cruz on 13/07/2004 22:42:34
 Originally by: Eximius
And an armor bonus. give the Maller and armor bonus and it would be what it is supposed to be.
That would be great! for the secondary bonus to be an armor bonus like +5% armor per level. It would still need a slightly larger PG to tank. But armor is good, maybe ROF/Damage?
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.13 22:40:00 -
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Edited by: Cruz on 13/07/2004 22:42:34
Originally by: Eximius
And an armor bonus. give the Maller and armor bonus and it would be what it is supposed to be.
That would be great! for the secondary bonus to be an armor bonus like +5% armor per level. It would still need a slightly larger PG to tank. But armor is good, maybe ROF/Damage?
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.14 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Blood Redd
Mallers are fine as they are IMHO. You just need a good set up like mine.
High:
5 Miner 2
Med:
1 Cap Recharger
2 100nm AB
Low:
5 co-pro 1
1 PDU
You can fit this set up with engineering 4
nice... very nice...
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.14 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Blood Redd
Mallers are fine as they are IMHO. You just need a good set up like mine.
High:
5 Miner 2
Med:
1 Cap Recharger
2 100nm AB
Low:
5 co-pro 1
1 PDU
You can fit this set up with engineering 4
nice... very nice...
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.14 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: JP Beauregard
There is only one thing a Maller needs: One skilled pilot.
Supply side issues here are hurting the ship very badly.
 Even with good skills you still need two tech II RCUs to reasonably fit a maller. And dual medium pulse weapons suck hard... very very hard...
And lets not forget two tech II RCUs cost around 12mil!!! 
and with engineering V you get about 1404PG from it. Thats all fine and dandy, but you need energy grid upgrades V too which takes like 18days to train and engineering V which everyone has.
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.14 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: JP Beauregard
There is only one thing a Maller needs: One skilled pilot.
Supply side issues here are hurting the ship very badly.
Even with good skills you still need two tech II RCUs to reasonably fit a maller. And dual medium pulse weapons suck hard... very very hard...
And lets not forget two tech II RCUs cost around 12mil!!!
and with engineering V you get about 1404PG from it. Thats all fine and dandy, but you need energy grid upgrades V too which takes like 18days to train and engineering V which everyone has.
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.14 16:35:00 -
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Grr thats not the point, the fact is if you want to use decent lasers on a maller you have to sacrifice a lot of low slots which leaves you vulnerable as you cant tank effectively or recharge your cap as well. The maller does need a slight PG boost, dont you remember how the armageddon, apoc, mega, and tempest ALL got powergrid boosts because they are turret battleships? well the maller needs the same boost.
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.14 16:35:00 -
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Grr thats not the point, the fact is if you want to use decent lasers on a maller you have to sacrifice a lot of low slots which leaves you vulnerable as you cant tank effectively or recharge your cap as well. The maller does need a slight PG boost, dont you remember how the armageddon, apoc, mega, and tempest ALL got powergrid boosts because they are turret battleships? well the maller needs the same boost.
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.14 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: JP Beauregard
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
I'm fairly certain I could blow up your maller very easily in either a blackbird, thorax, caracel, moa, or a rupture, probably even a stabber.(let me know if you want me to back up my claim)
Maller is ok for mining, and easy npc's but that is all. And it certainly doesn't compare to a thorax for either...no drones.
EDIT: I just realized that I could add rifter, vigil, griffon, kestrel, incursis, claw, stiletto, and probably a few frigs I forgot to mention to the list of ships that will easily destroy a maller 1v1.
Now zip up your pants again, son, and tell me how another 50 MW grid on the Maller would change that, assuming you have a point in addition to half that clue?
That'll be 1 isk, please. My charge for bothering with "your people", tax not included.
an extra 50pg or 100pg would let you substitute an RCU for another armor hardener/repairer/cap relay
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.14 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: JP Beauregard
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
I'm fairly certain I could blow up your maller very easily in either a blackbird, thorax, caracel, moa, or a rupture, probably even a stabber.(let me know if you want me to back up my claim)
Maller is ok for mining, and easy npc's but that is all. And it certainly doesn't compare to a thorax for either...no drones.
EDIT: I just realized that I could add rifter, vigil, griffon, kestrel, incursis, claw, stiletto, and probably a few frigs I forgot to mention to the list of ships that will easily destroy a maller 1v1.
Now zip up your pants again, son, and tell me how another 50 MW grid on the Maller would change that, assuming you have a point in addition to half that clue?
That'll be 1 isk, please. My charge for bothering with "your people", tax not included.
an extra 50pg or 100pg would let you substitute an RCU for another armor hardener/repairer/cap relay
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Posted - 2004.07.15 13:22:00 -
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>.< It still requires a bunch of RCUs to fit 5x 250mms rails
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Posted - 2004.07.15 13:22:00 -
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>.< It still requires a bunch of RCUs to fit 5x 250mms rails
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Posted - 2004.07.15 13:52:00 -
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and lets not forget 250mms use more cap then lasers on amarr ships
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Posted - 2004.07.15 13:52:00 -
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and lets not forget 250mms use more cap then lasers on amarr ships
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Posted - 2004.07.16 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kalast Raven
I have been extensively using a maller, and while it is fun, i know it will never be used in PvP.
If it had an extra low slot, and a bit of helping for its fittings you could maintain a reasonable balance of firepower vs utility.
I think the amount of lowslots are perfect on the maller, the only problem is that it doenst have enough powergrid so you end up using all those low slots for PDUs and RCUs.
Ohh and, an Apoc Requires just 1 RCU to fit 8x Mega Beam Lasers, a Maller requires 2 RCUs to fit 5x Heavy Beam Lasers with Engineering V, Maller also has less low slots then Apoc so those slots wasted to RCUs/PDUs cant be used for armor tanking like an apoc can.
I personally think the Mallers powergrid should be increased to 950, and the Omen to 750, I mean comeon they are AMARR SHIPS!! they have the best reactor technology in the game(other then the jovians) And the Maller only has 100more PG the a moa or a thorax!!, and Its not like the maller can use Drones, or it doenst have a weapon equivalent to blasters other then say pulse lasers, which require close range, which means you need a MWD which means you need Cap relays to balance that out and even more PG!!
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.16 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kalast Raven
I have been extensively using a maller, and while it is fun, i know it will never be used in PvP.
If it had an extra low slot, and a bit of helping for its fittings you could maintain a reasonable balance of firepower vs utility.
I think the amount of lowslots are perfect on the maller, the only problem is that it doenst have enough powergrid so you end up using all those low slots for PDUs and RCUs.
Ohh and, an Apoc Requires just 1 RCU to fit 8x Mega Beam Lasers, a Maller requires 2 RCUs to fit 5x Heavy Beam Lasers with Engineering V, Maller also has less low slots then Apoc so those slots wasted to RCUs/PDUs cant be used for armor tanking like an apoc can.
I personally think the Mallers powergrid should be increased to 950, and the Omen to 750, I mean comeon they are AMARR SHIPS!! they have the best reactor technology in the game(other then the jovians) And the Maller only has 100more PG the a moa or a thorax!!, and Its not like the maller can use Drones, or it doenst have a weapon equivalent to blasters other then say pulse lasers, which require close range, which means you need a MWD which means you need Cap relays to balance that out and even more PG!!
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Posted - 2004.07.17 17:30:00 -
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Yarr Maller needs help, I took out someones yeterday in a punisher >.<
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Posted - 2004.07.17 17:30:00 -
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Yarr Maller needs help, I took out someones yeterday in a punisher >.<
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Posted - 2004.07.23 16:12:00 -
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Edited by: Cruz on 23/07/2004 16:13:58
The new resistance boost sounds awesome :D
Seems like TomB read this thread somewhat.
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.23 16:12:00 -
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Edited by: Cruz on 23/07/2004 16:13:58
The new resistance boost sounds awesome :D
Seems like TomB read this thread somewhat.
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.26 16:48:00 -
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come on everyone sing it!!
Maller needs some love!!!
blah blah blah
TomB you can do it!!
Love the maller all night long!!
Dont let those freedom fighters get there way!!
Maller all the way!!
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.26 16:48:00 -
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come on everyone sing it!!
Maller needs some love!!!
blah blah blah
TomB you can do it!!
Love the maller all night long!!
Dont let those freedom fighters get there way!!
Maller all the way!!
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