I heard this is the result of the speculation in prices of mineral. Is it true?

The first was the massive bot bannings, which lowered the mineral supply somewhat.

What is this exactly? I've never heard of this.

BOT Ban = CCP going ape sh%t on a bunch of macro miner accounts and removing a ton of supply and ISK from the game including a large number of PLEX tied into these accounts. (I wont get into the rammifications of banning people using time already bought and paid for, but they have the vale of it being an in game item)

Eve being what it is reacts with the hive mind. Right now the market is in "futures" mode where people are betting on what the price will be. The biggest impact will be on Zydrine, Nocxium, Megacyte, and Moprhite. These are not readily available in highsec and a big source of them was the drone regions. Bascially CCP is tossing miners and indy people a bone, but the people controlling the market are making a killing right now. (Myself included)

There was also an issue with an item still being in the game that yielded Nocxium. The item was exposed and removed. Those aware of this would profit whenever Nox got to a certain price.

Judging by the term "bot" I assume that these players mine passively 24/7?

23/7 and yes.

I see what you did there :))

Anyways, I don't see how that could be considered 'illegal'. I see no difference between afk mining and mining while staring into the screen. But CCP decision :/

Anyways, do you think the market will ever stabilize back to what it used to be? Or is this gonna be the mark of a new economic era?

I see what you did there :))

Anyways, I don't see how that could be considered 'illegal'. I see no difference between afk mining and mining while staring into the screen. But CCP decision :/

Anyways, do you think the market will ever stabilize back to what it used to be? Or is this gonna be the mark of a new economic era?

Welcome to the real EVE where you have to work for what you have... no more freebies.

"What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value."

-Thomas Paine

The market is starting to adjust to the fact that bots killed PC mining, people dropped it due to a lack of making ISK, and the economy went into hyper-deflation a while ago, now with that "cheap and easy" ISK and minerals gone, the inflation is now setting things to where they will be until the demand is met with supply, but I don't see that coming in short term, it is going to take people more ISK (work) to get into that and time is always the factor to rebuild the miner/production side of things... I say maybe if things keep going up that it should draw enough people in by winter at the earliest, "Burn Jita/HAG5" not withstanding.

We shall see what happens, it should be interesting to say the least, if the minerals go up I may actuall start to mine again - haven't touched a rock in 8 months...

now with that "cheap and easy" ISK and minerals gone ..

Without any stats to prove my gut feeling, I'd guess one reason to rising prices is also renewed interest in flying spaceships- general demand has gone up and the supply has not yet caught up.

In any case the margins are better, which would support my theory.

I like higher ship prices. In theory, it would tame the power creep and make small, cheap ships more common, making PVP more accessible to newer players. Yes, frigs & cruisers would be more expensive for noobs, but at least they would have the skills to fly the same ships as others.

Currently BC seems to be the minimal standard, I would like to see cruisers as the new line ship in smaller fleets.

I also like higher ship prices for personal wallet reasons

Sonny, I used to have a lot of cash in my wallet, but then I took an Inferno dev blog to the knee and bought ship BPOs and minerals.

I think higher ships prices is only gonna discourage new players from pvping and lure them into carebaring. With a lower price they will be more willing to attempt pvp and even if they lose their ships, they will be more willing to buy a new just because they will be more likely able to afford it.

And if you like higher prices just so you can burn isk in your wallet because you're rich then i have nothing to say.

CCP needs to boost minerals in ore like 50%+ make it profitable for the average miner to make money, bots were mining all the mins because mining is dull and not profitable unless you have a bajillion accounts.

double the mins from all ores already!

You are terrible

If you double the ores, it just means the bots have double also and all you have achieved is flooding the market with more ore

(flooding the market with ore wouldnt actually be a bad thing right about now really)

(I wont get into the rammifications of banning people using time already bought and paid for, but they have the vale of it being an in game item).

Hulkageddon can't come soon enough. GSF offering 100M per 10 ganked Hulks...

:swoon:

-Liang

Basically in a nutshell we have 3 major factors pushing up mineral prices right now

The first was the massive bot bannings, which lowered the mineral supply somewhat.

The second is the April 24th patch removing drone alloys and meta 0 modules, and because of this a lot of people have been bulk buying minerals in speculation

The final factor is Hulkageddon V is coming, normally wouldn't have too much of an impact on the run up, but with the other two points, we have a kind of perfect storm situation going on.