Kickstarter? It seems like a lot of game companies are using that to get initial funding and to judge how popular an idea is.

Let's have a cookie sale! Car wash?

Let's see them actually re-structure, re-align and succeed again; before we start throwing more money at them.

As long as I could direct the money I 'donate' to the projects I want to see completed, I would shovel money at them.

CCP got itself into a mess growing too fast and uncontrolled. They basically imploded GÇô and we got the crap that was 2010/11.

If EVE can't survive and improve as a 15USD subscription game WITH a microtransaction system on top of that, in these F2P-times, then it will go the way of the dinosaurs.

Personally I'd rather be able to direct x money each billing cycle to x game system or feature which would be directly applied to the budget of said feature rather than a single-issue or short term 'fundraiser'.

You have the ability to give CCP as much money as you want, or anyone for that matter, without Kickstarter. Buy PLEX.

You have the ability to give CCP as much money as you want, or anyone for that matter, without Kickstarter. Buy PLEX.

[quote=Panacani]I've emailed both CCP and Kickstarter to see if their terms would permit this sort of 3rd party fundraising.. in the meantime, if people have ideas for possible campaign subjects (something specific that donations would be applied to) please share them here.

You've missed the point.

Nope, buy PLEX. /thread.

[quote=Daneirkus Auralex]As always on the EVE forums, an impressive demonstration of logic, reading comprehension and constructive discourse. Let's simplify the question:

If donating 5 of your dollars meant that in a few months we'd see a new, beautifully rendered, feature-length "Clear Skies 4," would you donate it?

No. Throwing money at a company is different from directing money at a specific goal.

Also, http://archiwum.polygamia.pl/files/CCP_registration_2.pdf
Learn something. Thanks, bye.

a few months

Nvm, I don't normally read before poasting

The statement isn't' "Here's 100k, CCP, now go buff titans with it." The statement would be "Hey, we all like EVE so much that we collected 100k for you to produce the feature length film you wanted to make, but didn't have the resources for." I'm really beginning to question the average level of reading comprehension on these forums.

And a bad idea to make CCP's development work for the game based on "Loooksie! We got 50K for developing XYZ! Lets get to it!"

Huh??

"Growing too fast and uncontrolled" - EVE has been fairly steady at 400k subscription base for almost its entire existance. Sure, it may have ticked up or down a few 10k, but for the most part steady.

Huh??

"Growing too fast and uncontrolled" - EVE has been fairly steady at 400k subscription base for almost its entire existance. Sure, it may have ticked up or down a few 10k, but for the most part steady.

Its micortransactions are limited and at the present completely cosmetic. I certainly hope it stays that way.

Is it time to put our money where our mouths are?

This idea is stupid. Donate money to children or something, not videogames.

Nah. Donating money to videogames is good.

We're already paying a subscription.

Let's have a cookie sale! Car wash?

We live in an age where social media and micro-donations have the potential to amass substantial funding for minimal effort. Candidates could include new Clear Skies episodes (though not created by CCP), a feature length EVE movie based on the Cinematic Trailer, or something else. We're told that adding tessalation effects would require a whole year. What if we could speed that up?

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In this thread, please discuss ideas, suggestions for fundraising items, or reasons why this shouldn't be. With our numbers united, we quite literally have the power to realize almost anything we can imagine.

Now lets get back to the big shots, you know the guys on the top floor. There only desire in life is to have more money! It doesnt matter how much they have they need more, think of it as an addiction. They will invest just enough money in a product to make it profitable. It doesnt matter to them if the game is awesome or good, it just has to hold enough subs to make a profit.

Giving CCP or any corporation more money will NOT make a better product. All it will achieve is making extremely rich people just a little bit more rich, pennies to them.

tl;dr should we generate grassroots funding for 3rd party content (such as Clear Skies) and/or accelerated development of features, such as tessalation?



Reading thread after thread of this idea and that idea, the thought occurred - if CCP can't do everything players want them to do right now, why can't we give them that ability?

Some may object that we already pay monthly subscriptions, and therefore shouldn't have to contribute any more. While I'd agree - but I'd also note that as a corporation, CCP's output is constrained by limited resources. Logic follows that by increasing their resources, we can increase their output. I'd bet that many of us wouldn't mind kicking in a few extra bucks if it meant getting a desired feature twice a fast.

We live in an age where social media and micro-donations have the potential to amass substantial funding for minimal effort. Candidates could include new Clear Skies episodes (though not created by CCP), a feature length EVE movie based on the Cinematic Trailer, or something else. We're told that adding tessalation effects would require a whole year. What if we could speed that up?

Anyone who's watched that trailer has probably seen top-rated comments such as "I"M THROWING MY MONEY AT THE SCREEN BUT NOTHING IS HAPPENING" - we're a passionate community with appeal that extends well beyond our current player-base. And ME3 generated $80,000 in a matter of weeks. Instead of watching those wallets bound off of computer monitors around the world, perhaps we should hold out a bucket? This phenomena has already pervaded the music industry, with fan-funded albums. Being a "community of firsts," I can't think of anywhere more appropriate to create the changes we seek, ourselves. Kickstarter, Fundly... the possibilities are endless.

In this thread, please discuss ideas, suggestions for fundraising items, or reasons why this shouldn't be. With our numbers united, we quite literally have the power to realize almost anything we can imagine.

BUT - I've a "professional" wariness for any suggestion coming from to Goons / Test / Reddit direction. I love you guys but you have keen skills at lifting the material burdens of the weak-minded. I'd have to insist on an upstanding community leader like Chribba being a trustee of any funds generated.

BUT - I've a "professional" wariness for any suggestion coming from to Goons / Test / Reddit direction. I love you guys but you have keen skills at lifting the material burdens of the weak-minded. I'd have to insist on an upstanding community leader like Chribba being a trustee of any funds generated.

Corporations ONLY goal is to make money! Guess who controls that money, you got it the big man on the top floor.

such a scheme would skew CCP's incentives for using the subscriptions fees to develop features/content for EVE.

Hi,

I've recently sent a mail to [email protected] about this matter, but have yet to see a response. I figured it wise to send an inquiry through the petition system as well.

There has been some interest within the player community for the creation of a player-driven fundraising campaign. While I wouldn't make assumptions about CCP's balance sheet, additional funding from players (along with appropriate facilitation and guidance by CCP) could have the potential to create more content for our universe - whether in-game or out. And though I'm aware that this sort of effort is unorthodox, CCP and its community are also unorthodox. If the idea has value anywhere, it would be here. I'd imagine that the effort alone has marketing value.

At this exploratory stage, I'd like to know a) whether CCP's corporate policies allow goodwill receipt of funds beyond subscription fees, and b) if there are any particular efforts that you could suggest we, the community, apply our effort towards. Thus far, reactions on the EVE Forums have suggested that attempting to help accelerate game development could be ineffective. There are, however, many other ways to enrich the EVE experience. A hard copy of the Chronicles, or a feature length web film based on the recent theatrical trailer are a couple examples.

I eagerly await your response.


Sincerely,

[my name]

Trebor, having mad storyboarding skills, management knouse and more monies than me - plus having being elected n all - would be an ideal guy to tap to look after a project like this. Sure he's got the time for us.

I would be more than happy to act as trustee for a project like convincing CCP to implement the Dead Horse POS.

However, there is no need to use something awkward like Kickstarter, and in any case, they can't accept PLEX. So just contract me your PLEX ingame, or send me something using PayPal, and I'll get the ball rolling.

Best
Trebor

PS: I have asked Darius III, a fellow CSM with a great deal of financial and accounting experience, to help coordinate this effort.

It wouldn't be fair to make Trebor do all the work, feel free to send the PLEX/ISK to any member of the CSM, and we will collect it. Make sure to include the feature you want in the reason/contract!

I would be more than happy to act as trustee for a project like convincing CCP to implement the Dead Horse POS.

30 PLEX sent. To Dovi, of course.

Hello,

Thank you for contacting the EVE Online community team and apologies for a very late reply. This question involves multiple parties, so my colleagues are currently looking into getting an answer for you. I will let you know as soon as I hear back from them.

Best regards,
CCP Spitfire
Russian Community Coordinator
EVE Online
CCP

This thread is the worst I have ever posted in.