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Jmanis Catharg Caldari Dusk Blade	Posted - 2008.12.04 02:35:00 - [31] Quote: [ 2008.11.22 22:31:25 ] (warning) This action is an attack on your target. Attacking this target is a crime, will result in a security status penalty for you and will bring CONCORD to enforce the law by destroying your ship. <b>CONCORD will kill you!</b><br><br>Do you wish to proceed with this dangerous action? This part is where you went wrong. You got prompted. You didn't read it. You said yes. You died. Pretty simple. It's impossible to tell what you were doing to get this prompt, but regardless you got it. Even if I thought I knew what I was doing, I would've said no, stopped doing what I was doing, started again. --- Originally by: CCP Mitnal I went to the forums for special powers and all I got was a dancing padlock and a banhammer.
Aisling Untamo	Posted - 2008.12.04 02:36:00 - [32] Ticondrius, that I can't remember. I think I had salvaged the last wreck before I locked target on the system rat, but I truly can't remember. BTW, I do appreciate everyones help on trying to figure this out. If it was something I did, then I will gracefully say, 'It was my fault, I'll stop complaining' That is what I'm trying to figure out.
Aisling Untamo	Posted - 2008.12.04 02:39:00 - [33] That I have figured out Jmanis. But what was my target? I thought is was a serpentis pirate. That seems to be the 100 million ISK question. Is there a way to find out what the target was?
21 Salvager Minmatar Moons of Pluto Space Exploration and Logistic Services	Posted - 2008.12.04 02:46:00 - [34] Originally by: Shirley Serious look in your character sheet for your standings with Concord, and right click for the transactions. It should say what you did that was aggressive. Try this. What does the standings log say? You can also double-click the standings log entry for more details on that entry. ----- I'm a collector! Want to trade? See my Collection List and contact me.
Trebor Notlimah Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici	Posted - 2008.12.04 02:51:00 - [35] Serpentis: 1 You: 0
fuxinos Caldari Guys 0f Sarcasm	Posted - 2008.12.04 02:55:00 - [36] id say you shoot a wreck.. since you target so quick hit salvage, target next and fire.. by the tiem the last target might be salvaged/killed and guns activate on next target, that sadly was a wreck prolly i lost 1 ship due to that fast stuff :P
Aisling Untamo	Posted - 2008.12.04 03:04:00 - [37] We have a winner! Not the answer I wanted though. (This penalty was incurred for attacking Celestt's Serpentis Medium Wreck in Enedore) Now I think I understand what happened. Here is the sequence of events as I think they happened. 1) Serpentis rats attacked our mining opp, I counter attacked with drones. 2) Someone in the opp killed the rat right as I finished targeting. 3) Somewhere between where the log says, 'Targeting failed because target no longer exist', and the time I told my drones to attack, and the time the warning game up, (which I still don't remember seeing, but the log says was there. No, I have not deactivated any of my warnings.) My drones attacked the wreck. It's a fluke IMHO. sequence of events happening so fast, that a chain reaction disaster ensued. I don't like the answer, but there it is. TY for all your help in helping me to understand this. I wasn't concorded for attacking 'serpentis' as the GM stated, I was concored for my drones attacking a wreck that belonged to someone else. SHEESH!!!
exoblast	Posted - 2008.12.04 03:05:00 - [38] Originally by: Aisling Untamo Ticondrius, I was targeting a system rat, or so I thought. When the target locked, I engaged my drones, again, so I thought. No, I don't have warnings disabled, but in the heat of battle, it would be easy to miss. That much I will give to CCP. But, again I say, I was told I was concorded because I attacked Serpentis. If I had attacked a wreck belonging to someone else, wouldn't that have shown up on the logs?? not so easy to miss ya got to close the window or click yes to initate said action ....that being said yeah looks like ya got a wreck killed
Farrellus Cameron Sturmgrenadier Inc Skunk-Works	Posted - 2008.12.04 03:08:00 - [39] You can see right before you got the warning notification it said that your targeting failed because the target is no longer present. Your drones will auto-attack an NPC that aggroes you. What likely happened is you went to target the rat but your drones popped it on their own before your targeting was complete. However, you went ahead and said "engage target" which caused you to tell your drones to attack a wreck. The warning notification popped up, but for whatever you somehow click through the warning and attacked a Serpentis Wreck, which caused you to get Concorded. ----------------------------------------------------
Aisling Untamo	Posted - 2008.12.04 04:02:00 - [40] TY for everyones help! That was becoming a 'bur in my saddle'. But now the I understand what happened, I can look for ways to ensure that it doesn't happen again. Good Gaming and Safe Flying!! Aisling Untamo XOXOXO
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.12.04 04:55:00 - [41] Originally by: Aisling Untamo TY for everyones help! That was becoming a 'bur in my saddle'. But now the I understand what happened, I can look for ways to ensure that it doesn't happen again. Good Gaming and Safe Flying!! Aisling Untamo XOXOXO Hope this doesn't happen again. I know I've lost some expensive ships due to stupid coincidences or just not-thinking before. Happens to everyone. The real lesson in EVE is that it's not over, no matter how many ships you lose, until you give up
Bai ZongTong Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.12.04 05:46:00 - [42] serpentis bribed concord. :x --- Bai ZongTong, responsible for all the lossmails in my corp.
Frug Repo Industries	Posted - 2008.12.04 06:03:00 - [43] Originally by: Aisling Untamo It's a fluke IMHO. sequence of events happening so fast, that a chain reaction disaster ensued. I don't like the answer, but there it is. TY for all your help in helping me to understand this. I wasn't concorded for attacking 'serpentis' as the GM stated, I was concored for my drones attacking a wreck that belonged to someone else. SHEESH!!! So fast, except for the whole 'are you sure' dialog that appeared. If you're camping it out in empire, shooting npcs, you should have enough time to read dialogs. -.- - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Nebulous Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.12.04 06:06:00 - [44] While it does appear to be the OP's fault it does not take away the fact that he/she had a bum reply stating that the reason was because he/she attacked serpentis, for this lack of customer support/care alone he/she should get the ship back as a good will gesture if nothing else. ---------------------------
Ticondrius Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.04 06:29:00 - [45] Indeed, we'd pretty much figured it out with/for her, and we don't even have any empty logs to look at! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- PROPOSAL: Chaos Incarnate's Face MMORPG: Many Men Online Role Playing Girls
FlameGlow Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.04 07:02:00 - [46] Sneaking in a classic: CONCORDOKKEN'D!!! _____________ I don't care what is nerfed, as long as it's not my "undock" button.
Ghaelsto Kakram Mindgamers	Posted - 2008.12.04 07:14:00 - [47] Its the lovely GUI design that's really helping you with split second decisions you have to make.
RaTTuS BIG Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.12.04 08:50:00 - [48] Alliance members are not covered the same way as corp members -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve
Ricdic Caldari	Posted - 2008.12.04 09:02:00 - [49] The GM's should have been able to explain this to the guy rather than saying he attacked the Serps. I wonder how good their logging system is if all they can say is "it's correct" without being able to explain how.

CCP WeatherMan C C P	Posted - 2008.12.04 09:54:00 - [50] I'm sorry for your loss, but posting on forum won't help solving the problem. Please file a petition to get it sorted. Good luck. WeatherMan Community Representative EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang


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