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Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.12.04 09:47:00 - [1] It's because "you people" (the ones that have more than just one account just to make ISK in-game) are either stupid or seriously "mathematically challenged". It should be obvious that there aren't THAT many things you can do with a character that WON'T involve actually spending time/effort on it... more often that not, much less time and effort than you initially thought you'd be capable of putting in. And then, in order to justify yourself the existance of an alt, you start running it on GTCs instead of a subscription, compounding the problem even further. Let me give you some clear examples... you might start off with one mission-runner character, and you make 20 mil ISK/hour. You run a couple of full weekends of mission-running and make a bundle, then think to yourself "gee, I'd really like to have another character to make that kind of money with". AFTER you either spend the time to train that second one (or ISK to buy it) and start using it, you notice that you're not making quite 20 mil ISK/hour/char, but a bit less. Not only that, but you heavily cut down on time spent running missions, AND you pay some of that for the GTCs needed for that character. In reality, MOST of you will probably need a couple of real-time years to break even, IF you even make it that long and EVER break even. So... want to have cheap GTCs ? SELL YOUR ALTS TO SOME NEWBIES THAT GOT THE MONEY SELLING GTCs. And encourage everybody else you know to do the same. Then get a second/part-time RL job and start selling GTCs for ISK for your main, and pay your main with a CC. There you go - less effort, more ISK, cheaper GTCs for everybody (else). HAPPY NOW ? _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Amjax	Posted - 2008.12.04 10:02:00 - [2] Originally by: Akita T It's because "you people" (the ones that have more than just one account just to make ISK in-game) are either stupid or seriously "mathematically challenged". It should be obvious that there aren't THAT many things you can do with a character that WON'T involve actually spending time/effort on it... more often that not, much less time and effort than you initially thought you'd be capable of putting in. And then, in order to justify yourself the existance of an alt, you start running it on GTCs instead of a subscription, compounding the problem even further. Let me give you some clear examples... you might start off with one mission-runner character, and you make 20 mil ISK/hour. You run a couple of full weekends of mission-running and make a bundle, then think to yourself "gee, I'd really like to have another character to make that kind of money with". AFTER you either spend the time to train that second one (or ISK to buy it) and start using it, you notice that you're not making quite 20 mil ISK/hour/char, but a bit less. Not only that, but you heavily cut down on time spent running missions, AND you pay some of that for the GTCs needed for that character. In reality, MOST of you will probably need a couple of real-time years to break even, IF you even make it that long and EVER break even. So... want to have cheap GTCs ? SELL YOUR ALTS TO SOME NEWBIES THAT GOT THE MONEY SELLING GTCs. And encourage everybody else you know to do the same. Then get a second/part-time RL job and start selling GTCs for ISK for your main, and pay your main with a CC. There you go - less effort, more ISK, cheaper GTCs for everybody (else). HAPPY NOW ? So do you talk to your EPeen whilst you stroke it?
Frug Repo Industries	Posted - 2008.12.04 10:06:00 - [3] Another carebear post by akita You know, a lot of people have alts for things other than mission running. Like, I dunno, probing, scouting, industry, and directly helping with combat (usually falcon alts from what I hear). But I guess if all you do is missions your paragraph rant has some merit. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Kulmid The Bastards	Posted - 2008.12.04 10:09:00 - [4] Its no mystery that missioning/ratting for ISK isn't a very efficient method of getting it. While the most efficient ingame method (scamming aside), still horribly ineffecient compared to sweeping a floor for a few hours and selling a GTC for 600mil.
Gankbear Amarr Gankbears	Posted - 2008.12.04 10:11:00 - [5] your opinions, can you keep them? ----------------------------- Gankbears Sarcasm hits fail thread for 249 lolcatz causing it to be locked. CCP Mitnal laid the final blow.
Vek NaVek	Posted - 2008.12.04 10:19:00 - [6] 'Akita T, Better than everyone else' Would make a great t-shirt slogan
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2008.12.04 10:20:00 - [7] Let me point out a fundamental fact about marketing. Item value = reasonable. Item availability = not very high. Item demand = Very high. Item cost = Whatever the mug is prepared to pay. Which leads to: Buyer = mug Seller = laughing all the way to the bank. Get the idea? -- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken. All this has happened before and will happen again
Doctor Penguin Amarr Shadow Command Tenth Legion	Posted - 2008.12.04 10:21:00 - [8] Edited by: Doctor Penguin on 04/12/2008 10:21:37 I've just had a telephone call from my superiors within the USPR (United Socialist Penguin Republic) and they're calling this a thread a thread half full of reasonless OP bashing. Put up some decent counter points, like Kulmid, Dantes Revenge or Frug, or get out of the thread. Anyway, I agree that something has to be done about GTC inflation, but the higher it goes, the less alt abuse there is in game (as more people EMR over stupid prices). So this should be a self fixing problem. (Dante posted while I was typing this, but that is a good point.) ________________________________________________
Malcanis Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.12.04 10:23:00 - [9] Originally by: Doctor Penguin Anyway, I agree that something has to be done about GTC inflation Why?
Vek NaVek	Posted - 2008.12.04 10:25:00 - [10] Higher the better. If you dont know why, I can post a reply to explain it to you.
Confuzer Volition Cult The Volition Cult	Posted - 2008.12.04 10:28:00 - [11] Or maybe those "mathematically challenged" people make 2 GTC's an hour profit with EACH extra account? If you don't, you are just a n00b ;) ----------------- Destiny is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It's not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved.
Kulmid The Bastards	Posted - 2008.12.04 10:33:00 - [12] Originally by: Confuzer Or maybe those "mathematically challenged" people make 2 GTC's an hour profit with EACH extra account? If you don't, you are just a n00b ;) I'm going to assume this requires a lot of capital and possibly a lot of time. And he seems to be mostly addressing the people who create alts for missioning. Those are the "mathematically challenged".
Captain Pompous	Posted - 2008.12.04 10:34:00 - [13] Originally by: Akita T It's because "you people" (the ones that have more than just one account just to make ISK in-game) are either stupid or seriously "mathematically challenged". It should be obvious that there aren't THAT many things you can do with a character that WON'T involve actually spending time/effort on it... more often that not, much less time and effort than you initially thought you'd be capable of putting in. And then, in order to justify yourself the existance of an alt, you start running it on GTCs instead of a subscription, compounding the problem even further. Let me give you some clear examples... you might start off with one mission-runner character, and you make 20 mil ISK/hour. You run a couple of full weekends of mission-running and make a bundle, then think to yourself "gee, I'd really like to have another character to make that kind of money with". AFTER you either spend the time to train that second one (or ISK to buy it) and start using it, you notice that you're not making quite 20 mil ISK/hour/char, but a bit less. Not only that, but you heavily cut down on time spent running missions, AND you pay some of that for the GTCs needed for that character. In reality, MOST of you will probably need a couple of real-time years to break even, IF you even make it that long and EVER break even. So... want to have cheap GTCs ? SELL YOUR ALTS TO SOME NEWBIES THAT GOT THE MONEY SELLING GTCs. And encourage everybody else you know to do the same. Then get a second/part-time RL job and start selling GTCs for ISK for your main, and pay your main with a CC. There you go - less effort, more ISK, cheaper GTCs for everybody (else). HAPPY NOW ? get a clue you ANNOYING little TROLLOP
ApaKaka Lone Starr Corporation	Posted - 2008.12.04 10:36:00 - [14] Higher GTC prices hurt isk farmer because they make less from their own farmed isk. Yay GTC prices. \o/
Sasha Sen Gallente United Industries LTD. Shadow Empire.	Posted - 2008.12.04 10:40:00 - [15] The way I see it: Players who play a lot make a lot of isk, so they buy GTC's, people who work a lot make less isk but they can sell GTC's. If the ballance between no life players and workers is tipping towards the no life's, then GTC's will go up, if more people would work and try to sell then price would go down. Whats this break even thing you are talking about? break even with what? time spent in game vs work? _______________________________________________________________________________________________
Mia Morningstar	Posted - 2008.12.04 10:41:00 - [16] Originally by: Confuzer Or maybe those "mathematically challenged" people make 2 GTC's an hour profit with EACH extra account? If you don't, you are just a n00b ;) 1200M/h profit? you must be a trillionaire, dear sir. congratulations.
Confuzer Volition Cult The Volition Cult	Posted - 2008.12.04 10:43:00 - [17] Edited by: Confuzer on 04/12/2008 10:43:34 Originally by: Kulmid Originally by: Confuzer Or maybe those "mathematically challenged" people make 2 GTC's an hour profit with EACH extra account? If you don't, you are just a n00b ;) I'm going to assume this requires a lot of capital and possibly a lot of time. And he seems to be mostly addressing the people who create alts for missioning. Those are the "mathematically challenged". Well offcourse, but if there are alot of "wealthy" accounts in eve and not enough GTC's, the prices will rise. (and don't overestimate the time, there are alot of smart traders ingame) ----------------- Destiny is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It's not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved.
Gankbear Amarr Gankbears	Posted - 2008.12.04 10:47:00 - [18] Originally by: Doctor Penguin Edited by: Doctor Penguin on 04/12/2008 10:21:37 Anyway, I agree that something has to be done about GTC inflation, quote] Obama called, they'd like you to join a Federal Task force on GTC Inflation. They've decided the world economic crisis is a waste of their efforts and want to put together a multi-billion $ rescue deal for GTC's. Economics Experts are Calling This a Communist Thread. ----------------------------- Gankbears Sarcasm hits fail thread for 249 lolcatz causing it to be locked. CCP Mitnal laid the final blow.
LvxAeterna The Greater Goon	Posted - 2008.12.04 10:49:00 - [19] Edited by: LvxAeterna on 04/12/2008 10:50:18 Originally by: Akita T It's because "you people" (the ones that have more than just one blah blah blah blah How many alts do you own? You seem to have first-hand experience, judging by what you wrote. Let me tell you something-- people like me have multiple alts. Funded by time cards. None of which are revenue generators. I am not worried about breaking even. I have enough disposable income in real life that allows me to afford a reasonably lavish lifestyle in eve. As a "have," speaking to a "have not" .... TOO BAD! I bet that makes you REALLY mad doesn't it? Let this be an incentive for YOU to achieve more in life, so you can afford more in eve.
Kiotsu Adler	Posted - 2008.12.04 10:51:00 - [20] GTCs are so expensive because people has too much free time on their hands.
LvxAeterna The Greater Goon	Posted - 2008.12.04 10:53:00 - [21] Edited by: LvxAeterna on 04/12/2008 10:55:36 Originally by: Akita T It's because "you people" (the ones that have more than just one blah blah blah blah If I sold my alts to newbies making money off GTC's, that would encourage newbies to deal more GTC's, wouldn't it? Demand would increase, prices of GTC's increase.. and ....uh oh, someone didn't think through this well enough
Malcanis Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.12.04 10:59:00 - [22] Originally by: LvxAeterna Edited by: LvxAeterna on 04/12/2008 10:55:36 Originally by: Akita T It's because "you people" (the ones that have more than just one blah blah blah blah If I sold my alts to newbies making money off GTC's, that would encourage newbies to deal more GTC's, wouldn't it? Demand would increase, prices of GTC's increase.. and ....uh oh, someone didn't think through this well enough Um, read his post right to the end. That's what he said.
Plim Gallente Oursulaert Technology Institute	Posted - 2008.12.04 11:07:00 - [23] Crazy ranting thread targeted at an imaginary person concocted in the authors mind? Yep that's general discussion. ---- Welcome to the EVE Onlne forums, a low IQ society.
Carniflex Caldari StarHunt Fallout Project	Posted - 2008.12.04 11:13:00 - [24] Originally by: Akita T In reality, MOST of you will probably need a couple of real-time years to break even, IF you even make it that long and EVER break even. I think your mission running example is a bit bad one, as when you use that alt properly you will gain more isk with GTC funded alt than solo if you run missions for approx 6-8 h / week. Many mission runners do that. Second aspect is ofc that if you need or want second account anyway, then as long as you 'break even' or take only slight loss you don't worry about it a lot. Let's say R&D datacores, POS gunners, Cyno alts, Capital alts, alt scouts ... etc, etc. It's like sov claiming towers in 0.0. If you have them anyway you can as well use them even if they do not make profit.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.12.04 11:32:00 - [25] Originally by: LvxAeterna Let this be an incentive for YOU to achieve more in life, so you can afford more in eve. There is so much wrong with this it practically hurts. It's offset by the warm fuzzy feeling of someone paying a premium for the privilege of having the consequences which define EVE removed though. - DesuSigs
Avram deman	Posted - 2008.12.04 11:37:00 - [26] I just pay for both accounts with a credit card AND buy a GTC from time to time if I worked too much during the month to farm.
Franga Gristle Industries	Posted - 2008.12.04 11:41:00 - [27] Posting in an Akita arrogance thread. ----------
Vele Nori Amarr	Posted - 2008.12.04 11:41:00 - [28] I do not understand what the point of this thread is. To persuade GTC buyers to start selling GTCs and close down their accounts? Would not they be doing so already if they figured it was worth it for them?
Vek NaVek	Posted - 2008.12.04 11:43:00 - [29] Originally by: Vele Nori I do not understand what the point of this thread is. To persuade GTC buyers to start selling GTCs and close down their accounts? Would not they be doing so already if they figured it was worth it for them? The thread is a troll, and the OP knows all.
Plim Gallente Oursulaert Technology Institute	Posted - 2008.12.04 11:47:00 - [30] Originally by: Vele Nori I do not understand what the point of this thread is. To persuade GTC buyers to start selling GTCs and close down their accounts? Would not they be doing so already if they figured it was worth it for them? The PURPOSE, is to RANDOMLY insert bolded CAPS into sentences. ---- Welcome to the EVE Onlne forums, a low IQ society.
Gone'Postal Minmatar Rage of Inferno	Posted - 2008.12.04 11:47:00 - [31] Originally by: Franga Posting in an Akita arrogance thread. This. Boost SISI VOTE NOW!
ZinderX500 Caldari Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.04 11:47:00 - [32] Originally by: Vek NaVek The thread is a troll, and the OP knows all. The OP is Caldari and you are Amarr. Enough said.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.12.04 11:55:00 - [33] Paying for a subscription with real money = Feels completely normal. Paying for imaginary items with real money = Feels weird and also feels a bit like cheating. That's just the way that a lot of players think. No **** that a few hours of a job will pay for tons of isk via GTC, but if it takes away the harshness of the death penalty in EVE then suddenly the game isn't as fun anymore. Accomplishments are hollow without putting in the work, etc etc blah blah. I'd rather have high GTC prices and less alts then everyone and their donkey having 2 alts and low GTC prices. -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.12.04 12:05:00 - [34] Originally by: LvxAeterna How many alts do you own? You seem to have first-hand experience, judging by what you wrote. Two accounts, both paid by debit card. Not the answer you were expecting, huh ? I used to pay them with GTCs bought with ISK a while ago, when CCP's billing wouldn't accept my old debit card, made a new one, now it works. I seldom use the second account (and as such it certainly doesn't generate any ISK), so I was pondering for a while that if I could get a good price for it (far above market value) I'd actually consider selling it. Quote: Let me tell you something-- people like me have multiple alts. Funded by time cards. None of which are revenue generators. I am not worried about breaking even. I have enough disposable income in real life that allows me to afford a reasonably lavish lifestyle in eve. Good for you, EVE needs more of your kind Originally by: Vek NaVek 'Akita T, Better than everyone else' Damn right _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2008.12.04 12:14:00 - [35] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Vek NaVek 'Akita T, Better than everyone else' Damn right Arrogance like that on the forums doesn't do a great deal to promote your cause. -- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken. All this has happened before and will happen again
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.12.04 12:17:00 - [36] Edited by: Akita T on 04/12/2008 12:19:16 Originally by: Dantes Revenge Arrogance like that on the forums doesn't do a great deal to promote your cause. Neither is trying to argue over the internet on a forum. It can't help, it can't hurt, so... who cares. Arrogance means nothing. Theories, experiments, reasoning and provable facts mean something. _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2008.12.04 12:24:00 - [37] Originally by: Akita T It's because "you people" (the ones that have more than just one account just to make ISK in-game) are either stupid or seriously "mathematically challenged". Lol Akita T, you was a serious poster and because of participating in this fail forum too much, you got dumber and are on your way to become a troll ? It's obvious that you are wrong here. Let's take someone who does missions with 3 accounts. An average higsec bear will make 20mil/h with 1 account, maybe less with each additional account (has to switch a lot between clients etc.), so lets say 20+15+10 = 45m/h with 3 accounts. The point is, that if he spends the time in front of his PC doing missions with 1 account, he could also do that with 2 or 3, there is no time loss for him. And it's just a matter of time when he breaks even. A person having 3 accounts for missionrunning will usually be an active player, not part-time weekend missionrunner. Lets assume he does 2h / day, 60h each month. Single account: 60h x 20m = 1.2 billion. After 300mil for 30d gtc thats 900mil isk per month. Tripple account from example above: 60h x 45m = 2,7 billion. After 3x 300mil for 3x 30d gtc thats 1,8 billion per month. Double as much for the same time spent, so why exactly is he "stupid" or "mathematically challenged" ?
Captain Pompous	Posted - 2008.12.04 12:32:00 - [38] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 04/12/2008 12:19:16 Originally by: Dantes Revenge Arrogance like that on the forums doesn't do a great deal to promote your cause. Neither is trying to argue over the internet on a forum. It can't help, it can't hurt, so... who cares. Arrogance means nothing. Theories, experiments, reasoning and provable facts mean something. none of which you provide, moron
Karille Gallente Cold Templars Templar Initiative	Posted - 2008.12.04 12:33:00 - [39] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Originally by: Akita T It's because "you people" (the ones that have more than just one account just to make ISK in-game) are either stupid or seriously "mathematically challenged". Lol Akita T, you was a serious poster and because of participating in this fail forum too much, you got dumber and are on your way to become a troll ? It's obvious that you are wrong here. Let's take someone who does missions with 3 accounts. An average higsec bear will make 20mil/h with 1 account, maybe less with each additional account (has to switch a lot between clients etc.), so lets say 20+15+10 = 45m/h with 3 accounts. The point is, that if he spends the time in front of his PC doing missions with 1 account, he could also do that with 2 or 3, there is no time loss for him. And it's just a matter of time when he breaks even. A person having 3 accounts for missionrunning will usually be an active player, not part-time weekend missionrunner. Lets assume he does 2h / day, 60h each month. Single account: 60h x 20m = 1.2 billion. After 300mil for 30d gtc thats 900mil isk per month. Tripple account from example above: 60h x 45m = 2,7 billion. After 3x 300mil for 3x 30d gtc thats 1,8 billion per month. Double as much for the same time spent, so why exactly is he "stupid" or "mathematically challenged" ? Because at that point you're an ISK farmer, not someone playing a game.
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2008.12.04 12:46:00 - [40] Originally by: Karille Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Originally by: Akita T It's because "you people" (the ones that have more than just one account just to make ISK in-game) are either stupid or seriously "mathematically challenged". Lol Akita T, you was a serious poster and because of participating in this fail forum too much, you got dumber and are on your way to become a troll ? It's obvious that you are wrong here. Let's take someone who does missions with 3 accounts. An average higsec bear will make 20mil/h with 1 account, maybe less with each additional account (has to switch a lot between clients etc.), so lets say 20+15+10 = 45m/h with 3 accounts. The point is, that if he spends the time in front of his PC doing missions with 1 account, he could also do that with 2 or 3, there is no time loss for him. And it's just a matter of time when he breaks even. A person having 3 accounts for missionrunning will usually be an active player, not part-time weekend missionrunner. Lets assume he does 2h / day, 60h each month. Single account: 60h x 20m = 1.2 billion. After 300mil for 30d gtc thats 900mil isk per month. Tripple account from example above: 60h x 45m = 2,7 billion. After 3x 300mil for 3x 30d gtc thats 1,8 billion per month. Double as much for the same time spent, so why exactly is he "stupid" or "mathematically challenged" ? Because at that point you're an ISK farmer, not someone playing a game. You missed the point. It's a comparison between someone with 1 and 3 account playing 2h/day. If doing missions 2h/day makes you an isk farmer, then both of them are, but the one with 3 accounts actually makes double as much for the same time spend, thats why he's not the "stupid" or "mathematically" challenged one. In fact he makes even more than that, because he can keep on with skilltraing and sell characters or earn datacores on two additional accounts.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.12.04 12:50:00 - [41] Edited by: Akita T on 04/12/2008 12:51:52 Yakia TovilToba, you're only "wrong" (intentionally in quotes) because you're making the mistake of assuming people on average would actually work like that at all. What you presented above would be the LUCKY FEW that actually do it like that. How many people you know ACTUALLY get their second, third or whatever'th account and really use them at "full power" after a while ? Not many, I'll tell you. Most just end up sitting there leeching ISK for gametime while barely contributing close to the GTC cost, if that much at all in the long run. Most people go "hmm, hey, if I get a second account, I can make more ISK", then invest a lot of ISK into it (train/buy character, buy gear, etc) then end up "burning out" and getting too bored to do it anymore. Sure, SOME don't burn out, and they are actually justified in getting an alt. MOST don't keep up, and they should get rid of them, pass them on to somebody who would end up actively using them until THEY burn out, and pass them along again. _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Karille Gallente Cold Templars Templar Initiative	Posted - 2008.12.04 12:55:00 - [42] Originally by: Akita T Most people go "hmm, hey, if I get a second account, I can make more ISK", then invest a lot of ISK into it (train/buy character, buy gear, etc) then end up "burning out" and getting too bored to do it anymore. This = Me
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.12.04 13:39:00 - [43] You and 80% of people who get a second account _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
5pinDizzy Amarr Umpteenth Podding	Posted - 2008.12.04 13:43:00 - [44] Please let's try and keep this discussion reasonable and balanced guys. How about, if you disagree with Akita then why not shut your face?
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2008.12.04 13:44:00 - [45] Heh, if you plan well you can go a long way without a second account. I wouldn't even consider one unless I knew it would be worthwhile; I barely even use 1 character most of the time, let alone 3n. --- Can't afford that BPO? Look here. 20:1 mineral compression The EVE f@h team
Roymundo	Posted - 2008.12.04 13:56:00 - [46] Originally by: LvxAeterna Edited by: LvxAeterna on 04/12/2008 10:50:18 Originally by: Akita T It's because "you people" (the ones that have more than just one blah blah blah blah How many alts do you own? You seem to have first-hand experience, judging by what you wrote. Let me tell you something-- people like me have multiple alts. Funded by time cards. None of which are revenue generators. I am not worried about breaking even. I have enough disposable income in real life that allows me to afford a reasonably lavish lifestyle in eve. As a "have," speaking to a "have not" .... TOO BAD! I bet that makes you REALLY mad doesn't it? Let this be an incentive for YOU to achieve more in life, so you can afford more in eve. this. as this guy and another mentioned earlier, why spend all that time farming isk when you could earn it real life? 2 hours over time and i can get meself a billion iskies. the only people who would sit and farm the isk seem to be chinese/******ed/have no friends.......
Del Soliara	Posted - 2008.12.04 13:59:00 - [47] Originally by: Vek NaVek 'Akita T, Better than everyone else' Would make a great t-shirt slogan More like 'Akita T, I'm an As terisk'
NeoTech Minmatar Tenacious Danes X13 Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.04 14:08:00 - [48] I currently make about 100m an hour mining, i got 4 characters (soon to get 6), thats 6hours = 2 months for each char = about 24hours of mining = 4-6 days roughly. That means that i have 54 days to mine and make a profit with, now tell me that isn't worth it.
Roymundo	Posted - 2008.12.04 14:24:00 - [49] Originally by: NeoTech I currently make about 100m an hour mining, i got 4 characters (soon to get 6), thats 6hours = 2 months for each char = about 24hours of mining = 4-6 days roughly. That means that i have 54 days to mine and make a profit with, now tell me that isn't worth it. if you enjoy those 4-6 days then sure go for it. it just seems a waste of time. you could spend 3 hours working and use the cash earned to put the rest of those 4-6 days to better use.
Tippia Caldari Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2008.12.04 14:27:00 - [50] Alts are for sissies anyway…
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.12.04 14:38:00 - [51] Or pay with a credit card?
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2008.12.04 14:52:00 - [52] Originally by: Akita T It's because "you people" ... are either stupid or seriously "mathematically challenged". Emorage posts are so funny
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.12.04 14:59:00 - [53] Originally by: NeoTech I currently make about 100m an hour mining, i got 4 characters (soon to get 6), thats 6hours = 2 months for each char = about 24hours of mining = 4-6 days roughly. That means that i have 54 days to mine and make a profit with, now tell me that isn't worth it. You and 1000 other people out of 20,000 or so people with more than one account. _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Lord Zoran House of Tempers	Posted - 2008.12.04 15:42:00 - [54] tbh gtfo ankita your getting annoying, anyways yea most ppl have alts and for many different reasons, personally i just find it easier logistically and better for training for to fly a variety of races across both accounts rather then 1. oh and do what the hell you want with your alt but if you cant afford to keep them don't complain just earn more whether it be in eve or in rl
Kalintos Tyl Minmatar	Posted - 2008.12.04 16:37:00 - [55] becouse l4 pays too much Quote: It's not a good idea to place a Exotic Dancers in a Giant Secure Container. The Exotic Dancers will not survive intact, if transported in such a container.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.12.04 16:38:00 - [56] Originally by: Lord Zoran if you cant afford to keep them don't complain I can afford to keep'em, I'm not complaining about that, learn to read and/or comprehend properly. _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
ZinderX500 Caldari Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.04 16:39:00 - [57] Originally by: NeoTech I currently make about 100m an hour mining, i got 4 characters (soon to get 6), thats 6hours = 2 months for each char = about 24hours of mining = 4-6 days roughly. That means that i have 54 days to mine and make a profit with, now tell me that isn't worth it. Send me some ISK kkthxbai.
Researcher Qual	Posted - 2008.12.04 17:33:00 - [58] Op = self-involved tw@ I'm glad you don't have a passport or wouldn't make a copy or whatever you were crying about that stopped you running for CSM, you are too up your own arse to be of any use to anyone except your own ego
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.12.04 17:37:00 - [59] Originally by: Researcher Qual Op = self-involved tw@ you are too up your own arse to be of any use to anyone except your own ego So... you completely agree with everything I said, but just don't like the way I said it ? Good to know. _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Metlec	Posted - 2008.12.04 17:45:00 - [60] "You people" need to spend less time arguing with Akita and more time ratting to afford your GTCs
Researcher Qual	Posted - 2008.12.04 17:45:00 - [61] Originally by: Akita T So... you completely agree with everything I said, but just don't like the way I said it ? Good to know. Nope, but thanks from providing yet another example of why your posts should be ignored - there is no value to them, except to make you feel superior (even though they actually just show your lack of perspective outside your own ego)
Sirus Ade Unknown Soldiers Soldiers Of New Eve	Posted - 2008.12.04 17:47:00 - [62] I have two accounts; one indy and one pure pvp. The second one I started with the power of two deal and with the profits I've made from that char I've paid the sub for both accounts for a year and it keeps me in ships. I agree that buying an alt just for PVE is stupid, UNLESS your main pvp char is a pirate and therefore you need an alt that can do missions in high sec.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.12.04 17:48:00 - [63] Originally by: Researcher Qual no value to them, except to make you feel superior Even if that would be true, that's plenty of value already. _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK

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