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Kobal81 Awesome Corp 0	Posted - 2012.04.10 22:10:00 - [61] - Quote Moar Tears plzzzz....
Solstice Project I'm So Meta Even This Acronym 1470	Posted - 2012.04.10 22:21:00 - [62] - Quote Miilla. Nice job, really. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire
ChYph3r Multiplex Gaming SpaceMonkey's Alliance 47	Posted - 2012.04.10 22:27:00 - [63] - Quote Mernar wrote: PLS CCP DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT AS I CANT EFFORD ANYTHING ANYMORE Blame your local bot user, they got banned so your going to pay the price, no suck it up you whiny empire maggot! FREE THE MITTANI ---- 10058 AMP - Angry Monkey Podcast
Cipher Jones The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars 455	Posted - 2012.04.10 22:31:00 - [64] - Quote ChYph3r wrote: Mernar wrote: PLS CCP DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT AS I CANT EFFORD ANYTHING ANYMORE Blame your local bot user, they got banned so your going to pay the price, no suck it up you whiny empire maggot! Lol. I failed economics too. Sike. I AM ***** PISSED OFF THAT EVE WILL NOT RUN ON MY COMMODORE 64. THAT ** I QUIT. take all my isk for 1 trit.
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 144	Posted - 2012.04.10 22:31:00 - [65] - Quote Cipher Jones wrote: Thank god theres not 100% inflation then, or the OP would be really upset. Inflation greater then 50% yet for this month??? Thats the definition of hyper inflation & it looks like we are CLOSE Simi Kusoni wrote: DarthNefarius wrote: OK we'll see what inlation looks like in 1 month to see if it fits this defination: World English Dictionary hyperinflation (-îha+¬p+Ö+¬n-êfle+¬-â+Ön) GÇö n Also called: galloping inflation extremely high inflation, usually over 50 per cent per month, often involving social disorder Collins English Dictionary - Complete & Unabridged 10th Edition 2009 -¬ William Collins Sons & Co. Ltd. 1979, 1986 -¬ HarperCollins Publishers 1998, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009 Cite This Source You still seem to be working under the assumption that this is bad. Ummm inflation is bad m'kay? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8g0ZeausBs An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta the Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's-á crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'-á
Anya Ohaya School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 102	Posted - 2012.04.10 23:10:00 - [66] - Quote Mernar wrote: 100% INFLATION RATE IS BAD AND DONT SAY ITS SPECULATION AS ITS ACROSS THE BOARD! MINERALS SHIPS MODULES EVERYTHING EVEN MOONGOO AND MINING IS AND WAS AND WITH THE CURRENT MECHANICS EVER WILL BE BORING It's not everything. I'd love it if Ogre II prices had doubled, but they haven't :-(
Adunh Slavy Ammatar Trade Syndicate 578	Posted - 2012.04.10 23:22:00 - [67] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: Ummm inflation is bad m'kay? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8g0ZeausBs No one in Eve needs to eat, no one has babies, no one has to be unemployed. ISK is not printed endlessly out of a printing press to feed the demands of debt or government's need to buy votes and legitimacy.
Xython Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 645	Posted - 2012.04.10 23:41:00 - [68] - Quote Mernar wrote: 100% INFLATION RATE IS BAD AND DONT SAY ITS SPECULATION AS ITS ACROSS THE BOARD! MINERALS SHIPS MODULES EVERYTHING EVEN MOONGOO AND MINING IS AND WAS AND WITH THE CURRENT MECHANICS EVER WILL BE BORING While I am loathe to agree with an allcaps badposter, yes, Mining does need some sprucing up. Botting is a symptom of unfun gameplay. I saw a screenshot of mining that will supposedly use something like the probing UI, have scan down mineral veins in asteroids and then use mining lasers and drones on them -- was that fake, or is that something CCP is working on? As for the market flux, it will calm down when Inferno hits -- just in time for Jitageddon to cause it all to go to hell. I do not know your playstyle but for the time being I would suggest the Goon Newbie's Motto: Never fly what you can't afford to lose.
Bleedingthrough Raptor Navy STR8NGE BREW 0	Posted - 2012.04.11 00:08:00 - [69] - Quote I got to agree with the OP here. For most players the core of EvE is blowing ships up and getting their ships blown up. And the majority of players don't want to spend their valuable gaming time looking at roids. It is totally cool with me that roiders get more isk but don't force people to do stuff they don't want to do. Maybe scaling insurance with the buy price of a ship could ease the pain of those that like to phew phew.
Darth Tickles Dark Sun Consortium 186	Posted - 2012.04.11 00:40:00 - [70] - Quote qqqqqqq I need to compete in wealth creation to acquire the best ships qqqqqqq competition is hard

Mogadishu Yacht-Club Internet Space Ship Game 0	Posted - 2012.04.11 01:00:00 - [71] - Quote Adunh Slavy wrote: What's even better about all this ... mining being more worth it means there will be more jet cans to flip. Add to that crimewatch 2. Let the games begin. Didn't I see the other day that there was another HULKAGEDDON coming up? That should make it even more interesting.
Adunh Slavy Ammatar Trade Syndicate 579	Posted - 2012.04.11 01:08:00 - [72] - Quote Mogadishu Yacht-Club wrote: Adunh Slavy wrote: What's even better about all this ... mining being more worth it means there will be more jet cans to flip. Add to that crimewatch 2. Let the games begin. Didn't I see the other day that there was another HULKAGEDDON coming up? That should make it even more interesting. I think the next hulkageddon and the burn jita events are before Inferno. As far as I know, crimewatch is not part of the 24th pre-expansion.
Miss Whippy Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 181	Posted - 2012.04.11 01:10:00 - [73] - Quote I for one welcome our new speculator overlords. UI Iteration isn't enough, we need to start from scratch
Drew Solaert University of Caille Gallente Federation 111	Posted - 2012.04.11 01:12:00 - [74] - Quote I for one can't wait for the people buying trit up at 5.85 a unit to get bit in the ass when all the meta 0 drops become metal scraps in two weeks time. For every player ship that blows up, the wheels of the economy turn slightly faster. -áDo your bit today. -áGo out and PEW.
robbyx Sons Of Alexander AL3XAND3R. 62	Posted - 2012.04.11 01:28:00 - [75] - Quote I just took a short break, only two weeks came back to find the economy out of freakin control.....i logged my trade alt to find all my ship orders have sold, went to pick up some more ships and i just couldnt believe it.... It doesnt realy affect my income as buy/sell is my "game"....however when inflation is this rampant its realy not a good sign for any economy.....CCP better step in fast.
Scrapyard Bob EVE University Ivy League 850	Posted - 2012.04.11 02:42:00 - [76] - Quote I think the phrase "adapt or die" holds true here. You can either (a) reduce demand by flying something cheaper or (b) help increase supply by going out and gathering resources or (c) pay someone else or (d) figure out supplemental income streams. Also, prices for minerals can't go much higher or mining will be a better income per hour then mission running and anoms. If anoms are paying out X per hour and mining in null-sec passes that X per hour number, then at least some people will switch from anoms to mining.
Starance Adeptus Assassinorum 0	Posted - 2012.04.11 02:58:00 - [77] - Quote Drew Solaert wrote: I for one can't wait for the people buying trit up at 5.85 a unit to get bit in the ass when all the meta 0 drops become metal scraps in two weeks time. Huh?
ComradeEngineer Australian Ratting and Mining Division The Cool Kids Club 0	Posted - 2012.04.11 03:18:00 - [78] - Quote Inflation is only ever caused by an increase of the monetary supply. Are the prices changing due to more iskies being in the economy or an anticipation of a change in supply of commodities in the future? If it is the later of the possibilities, the general price level increase is not inflation.
Xython Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 645	Posted - 2012.04.11 03:31:00 - [79] - Quote Starance wrote: Drew Solaert wrote: I for one can't wait for the people buying trit up at 5.85 a unit to get bit in the ass when all the meta 0 drops become metal scraps in two weeks time. Huh? Meta 0 items will no longer drop -- anything that you can make via blueprint BPOs will no longer drop off rats in game. The thing is, these meta 0 drops were almost always refined into raw ore, which will be removed from the economy, at the same time drone alloys will be removed from the economy as well. However, the Meta 0 drops are apparently being replaced with Metal Scrap drops. What Drew doesn't realize is these aren't the traditional Metal Scraps, but new ones that refine into different minerals than just Trit. Combine this with the botters being banned en mass and you're about to see a perfect storm: "Peak Ore" is about to hit. All the cheap sources of minerals in the game are vanishing, meaning that people are actually going to have to work for things. And like we saw when Goons went after the Ice Bots, lots of things are balanced right now based on EULA violations. Should be interesting. Definitely a good time to be a market botter. Er, I mean, "Market Enthusiast."
Tyberius Franklin Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 105	Posted - 2012.04.11 03:48:00 - [80] - Quote Xython wrote: Starance wrote: Drew Solaert wrote: I for one can't wait for the people buying trit up at 5.85 a unit to get bit in the ass when all the meta 0 drops become metal scraps in two weeks time. Huh? Meta 0 items will no longer drop -- anything that you can make via blueprint BPOs will no longer drop off rats in game. The thing is, these meta 0 drops were almost always refined into raw ore, which will be removed from the economy, at the same time drone alloys will be removed from the economy as well. However, the Meta 0 drops are apparently being replaced with Metal Scrap drops. What Drew doesn't realize is these aren't the traditional Metal Scraps, but new ones that refine into different minerals than just Trit. Combine this with the botters being banned en mass and you're about to see a perfect storm: "Peak Ore" is about to hit. All the cheap sources of minerals in the game are vanishing, meaning that people are actually going to have to work for things. And like we saw when Goons went after the Ice Bots, lots of things are balanced right now based on EULA violations. Should be interesting. Definitely a good time to be a market botter. Er, I mean, "Market Enthusiast." Where was this posted? The nly thing I saw regarding the metal scraps was from Grayscale which pointed to the use of existing scraps the same as when BS meta 0 loot was removed: CCP Greyscale wrote: Due to the way that the loot tables are set up internally, it's substantially easier** to replace loot rather than remove it, so the solution we're going with for now is swapping all the Meta 0 stuff for metal scraps (the 0.01m3 version)

DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 144	Posted - 2012.04.11 06:07:00 - [81] - Quote ComradeEngineer wrote: Inflation is only ever caused by an increase of the monetary supply. . Are you really trying to tell my the inflation of the 70's wasn't caused by the decrease of fuel supplies?!?!?! Go back to school & take another econ course. MINERALS ARE THE FUEL OF EVE & EVE'S FUEL RESOURSECES ARE ABOUT TO DECREASE An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta the Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's-á crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'-á
Chokichi Ozuwara Royal One Piece Corporation Deadly Unknown 91	Posted - 2012.04.11 06:17:00 - [82] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: ComradeEngineer wrote: Inflation is only ever caused by an increase of the monetary supply. . Are you really trying to tell my the inflation of the 70's wasn't caused by the decrease of fuel supplies?!?!?! Go back to school & take another econ course. MINERALS ARE THE FUEL OF EVE & EVE'S FUEL RESOURSECES ARE ABOUT TO DECREASE Comrade Engineer is correct. If the money supply is constant, the a rise in the price of one good has to correspond with lower prices of another good (zero sum game) If the money supply is growing, then the price of everything can go up simultaneously. (positive sum game) I think perhaps it is you who should learn some economics. Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round.
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 144	Posted - 2012.04.11 06:57:00 - [83] - Quote Chokichi Ozuwara wrote: DarthNefarius wrote: ComradeEngineer wrote: Inflation is only ever caused by an increase of the monetary supply. . Are you really trying to tell my the inflation of the 70's wasn't caused by the decrease of fuel supplies?!?!?! Go back to school & take another econ course. MINERALS ARE THE FUEL OF EVE & EVE'S FUEL RESOURSECES ARE ABOUT TO DECREASE Comrade Engineer is correct. If the money supply is constant, the a rise in the price of one good has to correspond with lower prices of another good (zero sum game) If the money supply is growing, then the price of everything can go up simultaneously. (positive sum game) I think perhaps it is you who should learn some economics. 1)The money supply is not constant. Its growing & a new ISK faucet is being created on top of it 2) Not only is the money supply growing a mineral(Drone alloy) faucet is being deleted ergo the other goods are SHRINKING An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta the Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's-á crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'-á
Lapine Davion Outer Ring Applied Logistics 184	Posted - 2012.04.11 06:58:00 - [84] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: Chokichi Ozuwara wrote: DarthNefarius wrote: ComradeEngineer wrote: Inflation is only ever caused by an increase of the monetary supply. . Are you really trying to tell my the inflation of the 70's wasn't caused by the decrease of fuel supplies?!?!?! Go back to school & take another econ course. MINERALS ARE THE FUEL OF EVE & EVE'S FUEL RESOURSECES ARE ABOUT TO DECREASE Comrade Engineer is correct. If the money supply is constant, the a rise in the price of one good has to correspond with lower prices of another good (zero sum game) If the money supply is growing, then the price of everything can go up simultaneously. (positive sum game) I think perhaps it is you who should learn some economics. 1)The money supply is not constant. Its growing & a new ISK faucet is being created on top of it 2) Not only is the money supply growing the mineral faucet is being deleted the other goods are SHRINKING Whoa, hold on here. What new isk faucet?
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 144	Posted - 2012.04.11 07:01:00 - [85] - Quote Lapine Davion wrote: Whoa, hold on here. What new isk faucet? DRONE BOUNTIES $$$ An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta the Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's-á crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'-á
Lapine Davion Outer Ring Applied Logistics 184	Posted - 2012.04.11 07:07:00 - [86] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: Lapine Davion wrote: Whoa, hold on here. What new isk faucet? DRONE BOUNTIES $$$ And then CCP is decreasing bounties across the board. argument negated
Locii Zebra Corp En Garde 0	Posted - 2012.04.11 08:21:00 - [87] - Quote Lapine Davion wrote: DarthNefarius wrote: Lapine Davion wrote: Whoa, hold on here. What new isk faucet? DRONE BOUNTIES $$$ And then CCP is decreasing bounties across the board. argument negated thought the blog said incursions, http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28587 vanguard sites were being reduced by 10%... did i miss the blog saying all bounties were being reduced?
Bad Messenger draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 127	Posted - 2012.04.11 08:28:00 - [88] - Quote Mernar wrote: SRY I JUST THINK THAT SUPPORTS MY CURRENT STATE OF EMOTIONS "START MINING?" ok u mine 100units and get 100mil for that so u can buy SHIP A that costs 100mil now u mine 100units and get 200mil for that so u can buy SHIP A which costs 200mil now AWESOME SO MUCH MORE MONEY FOR MINERS! but hey price is still same, 100 units. so where is inflation?
Gorki Andropov Kerensky Initiatives 295	Posted - 2012.04.11 08:29:00 - [89] - Quote Kattshiro wrote: Um tough ** then? We gave you ways then you said... that's like work. Sell plex hows that sound? What the ** do you expect CCP to do exactly? A suggestion might help. Also: Afford. Please tell me you're below the age of 16. Hello Mr. Coward NPC Alt, you do realise that CCP, ultimately, has the final reins on the EVE economy - and the OP does indeed touch on a real problem, namely the huge increase in the money supply that was partially but not exclusively caused by Incursions?
Andrew W-K University of Caille Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.04.11 08:33:00 - [90] - Quote Is it possible with all these changes EVE is in recession? A decrease in mineral supply will lead to a massive decrease in the whole economy (less manufactoringetc) with wealth harder to create and hyperinflation setting in as there is lots isk being created.



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