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Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:22:00 - [31] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Oh and as for intellectuals running the country, do you have anyone in mind for the position? Most would tend to look at the position of PM and think "good grief, I'm glad I don't have THAT job". well to be fair thats why i was looking away from one singe unit or man making decisions, i was looking at a collection of Professors decide on actions and laws through votes. -------------------------------------------
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:23:00 - [32] Originally by: Shanzem wrong as mr Brown only has a Degree in law.. nothing else.. Not a PHD. or masters. I'm not talking about Brown. You said that people should shut up and listen to people who are highly educated. You're simply redefining the figure of authority to be those people. ____________________
Ren Surkova Arcana Imperii Ltd.	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:24:00 - [33] wikipedia must be destroyed sig filla, thread killa
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:25:00 - [34] Originally by: Stitcher wait, wait, wait.... How exactly does this in any way reflect ALL of the UK? We're talking about the content filtering teams of six ISPs - that's a total of five hundred people at the absolute outside - deciding to be a little overzealous and/or not following up properly on the source for an image before deciding to block that IP. That's less than 0.00001% of the country screwing up and suddenly we're talking about "the fist of opression!" or some such similar farm slurry? Please. For God's sake man, stop overreacting. your right your right.. But seriously get used to this ****, you English are going to lose ALOT. -------------------------------------------
nahtoh Caldari StrikerCorp Dark Trinity Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:29:00 - [35] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Shanzem wrong as mr Brown only has a Degree in law.. nothing else.. Not a PHD. or masters. I'm not talking about Brown. You said that people should shut up and listen to people who are highly educated. You're simply redefining the figure of authority to be those people. There does seem to be very large holes in pretty much all of his points. He does seem to be a slighty differnet flavour of what he says he is against. ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:31:00 - [36] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:37:49 Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Shanzem wrong as mr Brown only has a Degree in law.. nothing else.. Not a PHD. or masters. I'm not talking about Brown. You said that people should shut up and listen to people who are highly educated. You're simply redefining the figure of authority to be those people. ahh i see what you mean now, well yes. It makes no sense of having people like brown in power, his actions will only lead to bad choice due to the information present in front of him without the foresight of were this world is going. People who study science, and aim for PHDs have a lot better motive and general willingness to move forward. and a willingness to push education. but your right, that would put them in the position of power. and to be fair, i can find myself agreeing with the slash dot nerds alot. so go figure, what ever there on i must also be on. Ninja Edit: if you leave your idiots to there own demise, eventually you the educated person will not be respected and society collapses (see UK) Theres is a HUGE gap between what the people leaving school know (and can legally vote) and those of higher education. if you was to make it those who have degree or above vote, having a large collection of informed intelligence vote. -------------------------------------------
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:33:00 - [37] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:34:05 Originally by: nahtoh Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Shanzem wrong as mr Brown only has a Degree in law.. nothing else.. Not a PHD. or masters. I'm not talking about Brown. You said that people should shut up and listen to people who are highly educated. You're simply redefining the figure of authority to be those people. There does seem to be very large holes in pretty much all of his points. He does seem to be a slighty differnet flavour of what he says he is against. Actually i am supporting the idea of a collection of the UKs brightest in order to get a new goverment setup which runs without the need of one single man making decisions. and the decisions are spread over all the Educated people (professors) within the UK on a vote of policy. -------------------------------------------
Ren Surkova Arcana Imperii Ltd.	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:35:00 - [38] anybody who relies on wikipedia for anything more academic than 'I wonder if x has been referenced in an unfunny, yet interminable sitcom' is worthless and less wikipedia can only be a good thing and it's hilarious that you believe that a few isps blocking part of wikipedia is tantamount to some intellectual dark age sig filla, thread killa
nahtoh Caldari StrikerCorp Dark Trinity Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:38:00 - [39] Originally by: Shanzem Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:34:05 Originally by: nahtoh Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Shanzem wrong as mr Brown only has a Degree in law.. nothing else.. Not a PHD. or masters. I'm not talking about Brown. You said that people should shut up and listen to people who are highly educated. You're simply redefining the figure of authority to be those people. There does seem to be very large holes in pretty much all of his points. He does seem to be a slighty differnet flavour of what he says he is against. Actually i am supporting the idea of a collection of the UKs brightest in order to get a new goverment setup which runs without the need of one single man making decisions. and the decisions are spread over all the Educated people (professors) within the UK on a vote of policy. Yup like I said a very sligtly differnet version of those you disagree with...Just differnet people in charge, I would guess you expect to be higher up the chain than you are now... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:42:00 - [40] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:47:20 Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:45:45 There does seem to be very large holes in pretty much all of his points. He does seem to be a slighty differnet flavour of what he says he is against. Actually i am supporting the idea of a collection of the UKs brightest in order to get a new goverment setup which runs without the need of one single man making decisions. and the decisions are spread over all the Educated people (professors) within the UK on a vote of policy. Yup like I said a very sligtly differnet version of those you disagree with...Just differnet people in charge, I would guess you expect to be higher up the chain than you are now... no actually i enjoy my job i enjoy working in engineering, this way i can work on my small projects and robotics. social status isn't my gripe, its the growing trend in Anti intellectualisms i am seeing. i am by no means a genius etc, i was just a kid who enjoyed reading his books and loved his math [after leaving school going my own way , college etc] (note the job i am in ) A perfect little example of this is the following, ask a nice young fit and really attractive English girl on were words like "lol" and "rofl" and there language used to text there friends with. She will reply its text langauge etc and act is if they made it up, although it was actually geeks USING the same language years before them on the Internet. Geeks in the western world as educated young individuals have completely fallen of the map. to the point if you go out and do something completely different, interesting or educated you get called a genius, this happened to me. i do not want to go through this all over again or worse let somebody else go through it. -------------------------------------------
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:04:00 - [41] Originally by: Ren Surkova anybody who relies on wikipedia for anything more academic than 'I wonder if x has been referenced in an unfunny, yet interminable sitcom' is worthless and less wikipedia can only be a good thing and it's hilarious that you believe that a few isps blocking part of wikipedia is tantamount to some intellectual dark age Its just the practical application of having a tool, that can keep a large population (billions) upto date on world events, people, places , (Basic concept of science`s) etc all in one location that is interconnected so other areas on interests can be branched. out. and kept upto date (a book cannot do this) while adding a basic concept of mathematics and problem solving. Which is free, EVERYONE on this planet should have access to, and puts us in the same page as each other. -------------------------------------------
nahtoh Caldari StrikerCorp Dark Trinity Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:11:00 - [42] Originally by: Shanzem Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 17:06:04 Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:54:13 Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:47:20 Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:45:45 There does seem to be very large holes in pretty much all of his points. He does seem to be a slighty differnet flavour of what he says he is against. Actually i am supporting the idea of a collection of the UKs brightest in order to get a new goverment setup which runs without the need of one single man making decisions. and the decisions are spread over all the Educated people (professors) within the UK on a vote of policy. Yup like I said a very sligtly differnet version of those you disagree with...Just differnet people in charge, I would guess you expect to be higher up the chain than you are now... no actually i enjoy my job i enjoy working in engineering, this way i can work on my small projects and robotics. social status isn't my gripe, its the growing trend in Anti intellectualisms i am seeing. i am by no means a genius etc, i was just a kid who enjoyed reading his books and loved his math [after leaving school going my own way , college etc] (note the job i am in ) A perfect little example of this is the following, ask a nice young fit and really attractive English girl on were words like "lol" and "rofl" and there language used to text there friends with. She will reply its text langauge etc and act is if they made it up, although it was actually geeks USING the same language years before them on the Internet. Geeks in the western world as educated young individuals have completely fallen of the map. to the point if you go out and do something completely different, interesting or educated you get called a genius, this happened to me. i do not want to go through this all over again or worse let somebody else go through it. A lot of study right about now is going on to understand intelligence and how geeks fit in. Geeks Virgins c/d (im not .. geek got laid.. another story lol - was with girl) Second link Geek contact. And here you are claiming that shorthand notation is purely internet based...granted I am widing the net somewhat here, but it is what it is a form of shorthand notation. No more no less. ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Arianhod	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:16:00 - [43] This September will last for eternity, I don't really mind about that to be honest. Yes it's our heritage but getting history buggered up by the masses is nothing new. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Haruhiists - Supporting Linkification since 2008
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:21:00 - [44] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 17:24:29 Originally by: nahtoh Originally by: Shanzem Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 17:06:04 Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:54:13 Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:47:20 Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:45:45 There does seem to be very large holes in pretty much all of his points. He does seem to be a slighty differnet flavour of what he says he is against. Actually i am supporting the idea of a collection of the UKs brightest in order to get a new goverment setup which runs without the need of one single man making decisions. and the decisions are spread over all the Educated people (professors) within the UK on a vote of policy. Yup like I said a very sligtly differnet version of those you disagree with...Just differnet people in charge, I would guess you expect to be higher up the chain than you are now... no actually i enjoy my job i enjoy working in engineering, this way i can work on my small projects and robotics. social status isn't my gripe, its the growing trend in Anti intellectualisms i am seeing. i am by no means a genius etc, i was just a kid who enjoyed reading his books and loved his math [after leaving school going my own way , college etc] (note the job i am in ) A perfect little example of this is the following, ask a nice young fit and really attractive English girl on were words like "lol" and "rofl" and there language used to text there friends with. She will reply its text langauge etc and act is if they made it up, although it was actually geeks USING the same language years before them on the Internet. Geeks in the western world as educated young individuals have completely fallen of the map. to the point if you go out and do something completely different, interesting or educated you get called a genius, this happened to me. i do not want to go through this all over again or worse let somebody else go through it. A lot of study right about now is going on to understand intelligence and how geeks fit in. Geeks Virgins c/d (im not .. geek got laid.. another story lol - was with girl) Second link Geek contact. And here you are claiming that shorthand notation is purely internet based...granted I am widing the net somewhat here, but it is what it is a form of shorthand notation. No more no less. Agreed it was started by mainly Usenet just at the beginning on the Internet. and then spread to things like texting(SMS). Lol do some research, and start here Usenet. and please read this Rise of the Alpha geeks "But the biggest change was not Silicon Valley itself. Rather, the new technology created a range of mental playgrounds where the new geeks could display their cultural capital. The jock can shine on the football field, but the geeks can display their supple sensibilities and well-modulated emotions on their Facebook pages, blogs, text messages and Twitter feeds. Now there are armies of designers, researchers, media mavens and other cultural producers with a talent for whimsical self-mockery, arcane social references and late-night analysis." -------------------------------------------
nahtoh Caldari StrikerCorp Dark Trinity Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:24:00 - [45] Originally by: Shanzem Originally by: nahtoh Second link Geek contact. And here you are claiming that shorthand notation is purely internet based...granted I am widing the net somewhat here, but it is what it is a form of shorthand notation. No more no less. Agreed it was started by mainly Usenet just at the beginning on the Internet. Lol do some research, and start here Usenet. Point you are missing, shorthand notation predates computers ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:27:00 - [46] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 17:27:22 Originally by: nahtoh Originally by: Shanzem Originally by: nahtoh Second link Geek contact. And here you are claiming that shorthand notation is purely internet based...granted I am widing the net somewhat here, but it is what it is a form of shorthand notation. No more no less. Agreed it was started by mainly Usenet just at the beginning on the Internet. Lol do some research, and start here Usenet. Point you are missing, shorthand notation predates computers if you are referring to letters i know einstein and other well known professors used such notion. but i was assumed we was talking about those who lack said understanding. -------------------------------------------
nahtoh Caldari StrikerCorp Dark Trinity Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:29:00 - [47] Originally by: Shanzem Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 17:27:22 Originally by: nahtoh Originally by: Shanzem Originally by: nahtoh Second link Geek contact. And here you are claiming that shorthand notation is purely internet based...granted I am widing the net somewhat here, but it is what it is a form of shorthand notation. No more no less. Agreed it was started by mainly Usenet just at the beginning on the Internet. Lol do some research, and start here Usenet. Point you are missing, shorthand notation predates computers if you are referring to letters i know einstein and other well known professors used such notion. but i was assumed we was talking about those who lack said understanding. Actually I was refering to just shorthand, your blinkers are showing again. ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:32:00 - [48] [cit] linky to source please. -------------------------------------------
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:35:00 - [49] Edited by: Crumplecorn on 07/12/2008 17:34:45 Originally by: Shanzem Rise of the Alpha geeks "But the biggest change was not Silicon Valley itself. Rather, the new technology created a range of mental playgrounds where the new geeks could display their cultural capital. The jock can shine on the football field, but the geeks can display their supple sensibilities and well-modulated emotions on their Facebook pages, blogs, text messages and Twitter feeds." Epic, takes various examples of the clueless masses stumbling onto the Internet, and calls it a new culture of geeks. Yes, anyone who can use facebook is a geek, because social networking was always such a big geek thing, amirite? - DesuSigs
Ren Surkova Arcana Imperii Ltd.	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:37:00 - [50] Originally by: Shanzem Actually i am supporting the idea of a collection of the UKs brightest in order to get a new goverment setup which runs without the need of one single man making decisions. and the decisions are spread over all the Educated people (professors) within the UK on a vote of policy. Yup like I said a very sligtly differnet version of those you disagree with...Just differnet people in charge, I would guess you expect to be higher up the chain than you are now... no actually i enjoy my job i enjoy working in engineering, this way i can work on my small projects and robotics. social status isn't my gripe, its the growing trend in Anti intellectualisms i am seeing. i am by no means a genius etc, i was just a kid who enjoyed reading his books and loved his math [after leaving school going my own way , college etc] (note the job i am in ) A perfect little example of this is the following, ask a nice young fit and really attractive English girl on were words like "lol" and "rofl" and there language used to text there friends with. She will reply its text langauge etc and act is if they made it up, although it was actually geeks USING the same language years before them on the Internet. Geeks in the western world as educated young individuals have completely fallen of the map. to the point if you go out and do something completely different, interesting or educated you get called a genius, this happened to me. i do not want to go through this all over again or worse let somebody else go through it. A lot of study right about now is going on to understand intelligence and how geeks fit in. Geeks Virgins c/d (im not .. geek got laid.. another story lol - was with girl) Second link Geek contact. You aren't an intellectual. You rely on wikipedia. Also please tell us about the time you got laid!?! Whats a girl smell like? endearing incompetence? is it feeble empowerment though pseudo-intellectualism? how'd you get her? were you all 'heh, you know us 'geeks' were using your vaunted 'text language' some time before you vacuous enjoyers of life were'? plz answer I have so many questions sig filla, thread killa
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:38:00 - [51] Originally by: Arianhod This September will last for eternity, I don't really mind about that to be honest. Yes it's our heritage but getting history buggered up by the masses is nothing new. how can you know that.. we well and truly are on the same page LOL The day the mass amounts of idiots joined our world.. and have laid waste to such a beautiful thing. Eternal September -------------------------------------------
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:42:00 - [52] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 17:45:17 Originally by: Ren Surkova Originally by: Shanzem Actually i am supporting the idea of a collection of the UKs brightest in order to get a new goverment setup which runs without the need of one single man making decisions. and the decisions are spread over all the Educated people (professors) within the UK on a vote of policy. Yup like I said a very sligtly differnet version of those you disagree with...Just differnet people in charge, I would guess you expect to be higher up the chain than you are now... no actually i enjoy my job i enjoy working in engineering, this way i can work on my small projects and robotics. social status isn't my gripe, its the growing trend in Anti intellectualisms i am seeing. i am by no means a genius etc, i was just a kid who enjoyed reading his books and loved his math [after leaving school going my own way , college etc] (note the job i am in ) A perfect little example of this is the following, ask a nice young fit and really attractive English girl on were words like "lol" and "rofl" and there language used to text there friends with. She will reply its text langauge etc and act is if they made it up, although it was actually geeks USING the same language years before them on the Internet. Geeks in the western world as educated young individuals have completely fallen of the map. to the point if you go out and do something completely different, interesting or educated you get called a genius, this happened to me. i do not want to go through this all over again or worse let somebody else go through it. A lot of study right about now is going on to understand intelligence and how geeks fit in. Geeks Virgins c/d (im not .. geek got laid.. another story lol - was with girl) Second link Geek contact. You aren't an intellectual. You rely on wikipedia. Also please tell us about the time you got laid!?! Whats a girl smell like? endearing incompetence? is it feeble empowerment though pseudo-intellectualism? how'd you get her? were you all 'heh, you know us 'geeks' were using your vaunted 'text language' some time before you vacuous enjoyers of life were'? plz answer I have so many questions Actually i own a growing book pile at home, enough to warrant a book shelf, i have a large collection of E Book that a read through, and through my reading it has gotten me a place in Engineering, and Electrnoic Engineering, i do robotics in my spare time. and this is coming from someone who only has a Diploma in computer science. i am looking towards going back to University and getting a degree. And as a for a Vacuous lover of life, why are you playing a MMORPG, shouldn't you be a socialite? -------------------------------------------
Ren Surkova Arcana Imperii Ltd.	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:43:00 - [53] Edited by: Ren Surkova on 07/12/2008 17:45:14 the fact that you need to justify yourself to an internet stranger says it all really edit:also holy ***! a book shelf?!? backs off hands raised* sig filla, thread killa
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:46:00 - [54] Originally by: Ren Surkova Edited by: Ren Surkova on 07/12/2008 17:45:14 the fact that you need to justify yourself to an internet stranger says it all really edit:also holy ***! a book shelf?!? backs off hands raised* I was merely having a discussion. what rattled your tree -------------------------------------------
Eran Laude Gallente The Aduro Protocol Doctrine.	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:48:00 - [55] Shanzem, for one supposedly as intelligent/diligent as yourself, shouldn't you stop posting rubbish on internet spaceships forumz and start building the first robotic tea cosy? Just a thought.
Ren Surkova Arcana Imperii Ltd.	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:51:00 - [56] Originally by: Shanzem what rattled your tree nothing really it's just funny to see wikipedia canonised by garden variety unwarranted internet elitism sig filla, thread killa
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 18:03:00 - [57] Originally by: Eran Laude Shanzem, for one supposedly as intelligent/diligent as yourself, shouldn't you stop posting rubbish on internet spaceships forumz and start building the first robotic tea cosy? Just a thought. meh i am just trolling. My chassis i have brought, its roughly going to take a week to deliver, i was going to CNC one at work but the material on hand was to heavy, its going to be a quadrupedal robot, i am going to use a Aconome Brainstem IIand a Devantech SD21 Servo Module to move the Servos which will form the legs. -------------------------------------------
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 18:04:00 - [58] Originally by: Crumplecorn Edited by: Crumplecorn on 07/12/2008 17:34:45 Originally by: Shanzem Rise of the Alpha geeks "But the biggest change was not Silicon Valley itself. Rather, the new technology created a range of mental playgrounds where the new geeks could display their cultural capital. The jock can shine on the football field, but the geeks can display their supple sensibilities and well-modulated emotions on their Facebook pages, blogs, text messages and Twitter feeds." Epic, takes various examples of the clueless masses stumbling onto the Internet, and calls it a new culture of geeks. Yes, anyone who can use facebook is a geek, because social networking was always such a big geek thing, amirite? lets not go there, the masses are so out of touch with what a geek is. it isn't even funny. -------------------------------------------
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 18:08:00 - [59] Originally by: Ren Surkova Originally by: Shanzem what rattled your tree nothing really it's just funny to see wikipedia canonised by garden variety unwarranted internet elitism To be perfectly fair Elitism is going to get worse s humanity moves on in the western world. its focus on lack of education and more on mass market and media run country's is creating social problems. see (Chav) whats funny is when a geek like myself Internet space pew pew person, works in engineering. doing CNC machining and lifting steel. -------------------------------------------
Zephyr Rengate Caldari Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2008.12.07 18:15:00 - [60] Oh my why did I enter this thread?

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