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Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:19:00 - [1] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 15:26:54 Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 15:22:11 slashdot somebody explain to me whats going off?? Didnt i get the memo??? " To the administrators of Wikipedia: Play hardball. Block those 6 IPs from any access whatsoever, explain why, stick to your guns. The worst thing that will happen is, people in the UK will become stupider, while those who are not participating in this censorship will be advantaged, so your enemies will diminish themselves by their own hand and your friends will become more powerful allies by virtue of the gift you have given them." Best quote so far. -------------------------------------------
Gnomes Rock	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:20:00 - [2] ITT; we have no clue what a communist state is.
Jon Malkovich	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:22:00 - [3] that's not even communist, just dumb soccer mums who nag and ***** about anything us older people care about.
Liranan M'8'S Frontal Impact	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:23:00 - [4] Originally by: Jon Malkovich that's not even communist, just dumb soccer mums who nag and *** about anything us older people care about. Sarah Palin has something to do with that? Farjung is my God** You people need to open your eyes and read threads before you mindlessly spam the New Thread link.
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:24:00 - [5] Originally by: Gnomes Rock ITT; we have no clue what a communist state is. ok technically its iron fist (censorship of all outside information), hopefully wiki blocks all UK isps. \o/ i live in the first Idiot state. -------------------------------------------
Jon Malkovich	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:25:00 - [6] Originally by: Shanzem Originally by: Gnomes Rock ITT; we have no clue what a communist state is. ok technically its iron fist (censorship of all outside information), hopefully wiki blocks all UK isps. \o/ i live in the first Idiot state. sorry we hit that bar first in the U.S.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:25:00 - [7] Originally by: Gnomes Rock ITT; we have no clue what a communist state is. He didn't say communist. He said cummunist. ____________________
Liranan M'8'S Frontal Impact	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:26:00 - [8] Wikipedia is by no means a scientific source, however I do understand what you are saying. This isn't censorship, this is insanity. The way the UK are going soon the internet will be blocked because children will be eternally harmed by the possibility of the **ography they could encounter. Insane do gooder SS at it once again. Farjung is my God** You people need to open your eyes and read threads before you mindlessly spam the New Thread link.
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:27:00 - [9] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Gnomes Rock ITT; we have no clue what a communist state is. He didn't say communist. He said cummunist. well spotted -------------------------------------------
Jon Malkovich	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:29:00 - [10] Originally by: Liranan Wikipedia is by no means a scientific source, however I do understand what you are saying. This isn't censorship, this is insanity. The way the UK are going soon the internet will be blocked because children will be eternally harmed by the possibility of the ****ography they could encounter. Insane do gooder SS at it once again. compared to US/UK public schools, i'd take wikipedia over anyday
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:32:00 - [11] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 15:33:37 Originally by: Liranan Wikipedia is by no means a scientific source, however I do understand what you are saying. This isn't censorship, this is insanity. The way the UK are going soon the internet will be blocked because children will be eternally harmed by the possibility of the ****ography they could encounter. Insane do gooder SS at it once again. No it does hold Scientific value! there is a proof and theorem site been developed to merge with Wikipeida to show mathematical calculations etc and problem solving. Wiki has everyone on this planet donating to it.. from articals to funding. its the Biggest Encyclopedia on this planet.. its Humanity self regulating and constant update source of humanity achievements past and present. Its the holy grail of a modern Humanity. Its something that shouldn't ever be tarnished, how could people look down or even THINK of blacklisting this. Wiki 4Chan pic Now if they block all of wikipedia, this WILL turn me to terrorism. -------------------------------------------
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:35:00 - [12] Wikipedia is a great thing, but you always have to bear in mind that idiots and troublemakers also have access to it. On non-controversial issues, it tends to be fairly accurate. ____________________
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:35:00 - [13] Originally by: Jon Malkovich Originally by: Shanzem Originally by: Gnomes Rock ITT; we have no clue what a communist state is. ok technically its iron fist (censorship of all outside information), hopefully wiki blocks all UK isps. \o/ i live in the first Idiot state. sorry we hit that bar first in the U.S. Been English hate to inform you.. we stole your thunder, we hit an all time new low. I should respect you. at least you have access to wikipidea. -------------------------------------------
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:38:00 - [14] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Wikipedia is a great thing, but you always have to bear in mind that idiots and troublemakers also have access to it. On non-controversial issues, it tends to be fairly accurate. But the smart people out weight the idiots and for as long as there are physical books which can be used as sources and constant adjustments are made, from people whom are within those field (physics etc) it should be fine. Its the most important tool on this planet. $200 dollar laptops + wiki + third world country = Educated people. Its a universal education system were everyone has the same understanding and the same page as the rest of humanity, its vital that this survives. -------------------------------------------
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:45:00 - [15] Originally by: Shanzem Seriously people should earn some kind of identification system to inform the rest of the world.. yes that bloke is part of a select group of intelligent people do not question him or her about anything.. you listen to what they tell you, because go figure your just to incompetent to add or compare or hold judgment. (holy **** a rl geek card lol) You want people not to question what a figure of authority tells them? ____________________
Liranan M'8'S Frontal Impact	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:47:00 - [16] Edited by: Liranan on 07/12/2008 15:47:56 I will accept Encarta, I embrace and love Britannica but Wikipedia I will not accept. Not in the least because it has been proven that the biggest fools can access and edit Wikipedia as long as it looks decent. Also I have read many an incorrect article. As long as people who have little knowledge of science can modify articles of great scientific value I will not accept that Wikipedia is a valid scientific source. I read a very nice article in regards to Wikipedia a while ago. It detailed how people 'sock puppet' on other players and get them banned just to get their (political) views across. While Wikipedia have started to enforce more strict rules since many a US state threatened to block them entirely this, and other, practices still take place. Farjung is my God You people need to open your eyes and read threads before you mindlessly spam the New Thread link.
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:50:00 - [17] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 15:51:02 Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Shanzem Seriously people should earn some kind of identification system to inform the rest of the world.. yes that bloke is part of a select group of intelligent people do not question him or her about anything.. you listen to what they tell you, because go figure your just to incompetent to add or compare or hold judgment. (holy ** a rl geek card lol) You want people not to question what a figure of authority tells them? That is wrong, a figure of Authority is Not better educated, he or she went to college to study law, and moved into a political movement. how ever if you was to hold a large collection of professors from all uk universities and let them decide political and future preparation, this would be advantage. Better yet we would have a better education system in place then we do NOW, it is those people that ***ed about the dumming down of the English standards. Having a collection of the most bright and educated within the UK seems much much better way forward. Those will understand everything we know. and feel the same way we do. this current madness is killing the UK. it is really becoming painful now to live here. -------------------------------------------
Asestorian Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:50:00 - [18] Shanzem you're continuing to sound like a raving lunatic, quite frankly. You go on about your intelligence but fail to look at things with any kind of calm or rationality. Or at least it consistently appears that way. This is a case of ISPs choosing to do something, not the government. Sure, the government could ask/force them not to do it, but they have to know it's an issue first. I'm not the biggest fan of the government we have but you're being ridiculous with this. Complain to the government, or your local MP, or something, about this. Overreacting on the internet doesn't help very much. Secondly, change the thread title to something less ****ed. --- Originally by:** CCP Atropos Destiny Balls
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:52:00 - [19] Originally by: Liranan Edited by: Liranan on 07/12/2008 15:47:56 I will accept Encarta, I embrace and love Britannica but Wikipedia I will not accept. Not in the least because it has been proven that the biggest fools can access and edit Wikipedia as long as it looks decent. Also I have read many an incorrect article. As long as people who have little knowledge of science can modify articles of great scientific value I will not accept that Wikipedia is a valid scientific source. I read a very nice article in regards to Wikipedia a while ago. It detailed how people 'sock puppet' on other players and get them banned just to get their (political) views across. While Wikipedia have started to enforce more strict rules since many a US state threatened to block them entirely this, and other, practices still take place. Agreed, but Wikipedia is als looking at having something setup so that stops. it has rolled quite a few programs out last couple of months to clamp down on that stuff. -------------------------------------------
Liranan M'8'S Frontal Impact	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:53:00 - [20] I support Shanzem in his views, I just don't accept Wikipedia as scientific. I do agree that the title should be changed though, totalitarian rather than Communist would suit more. Farjung is my God You people need to open your eyes and read threads before you mindlessly spam the New Thread link.
Brea Lafail	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:55:00 - [21] So is this better or worse than when the US government was creatively editing articles on wikipedia?
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:57:00 - [22] Originally by: Asestorian Shanzem you're continuing to sound like a raving lunatic, quite frankly. You go on about your intelligence but fail to look at things with any kind of calm or rationality. Or at least it consistently appears that way. This is a case of ISPs choosing to do something, not the government. Sure, the government could ask/force them not to do it, but they have to know it's an issue first. I'm not the biggest fan of the government we have but you're being ridiculous with this. Complain to the government, or your local MP, or something, about this. Overreacting on the internet doesn't help very much. Secondly, change the thread title to something less ****ed. i am not a raving lunatic, i had too much coffee this morning . Secondly The English have no respect for tools like this. so losing something like this wouldn't surprise me. and its because of things like this i had my society called me a genius. I have already been through the ** of what happens when you live in a society FULL of idiots i cannot and will not want to go through that all again. and tertiary i will change the thread name. -------------------------------------------
Arianhod	Posted - 2008.12.07 15:59:00 - [23] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_killer I am getting 404 errors. Going to setup a proxy, Onion Routing maybe?.... bit of a noob here on this so will make a thread about it. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Haruhiists - Supporting Linkification since 2008
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:05:00 - [24] Originally by: Brea Lafail So is this better or worse than when the US government was creatively editing articles on wikipedia? At least you could view the artical which were edited -------------------------------------------
nahtoh Caldari StrikerCorp Dark Trinity Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:06:00 - [25] The IWF was started to stop goverment controlled censoring...By UK ISPs themselves. Is it going to far? Perhaps. They are also reactive, not proactive. Just because you drink in chav pubs and one of the drooling morons called you a "genius" does not make you one, might on the other hand prove that the aforemention drooling moron is a drooling moron though... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:12:00 - [26] wait, wait, wait.... How exactly does this in any way reflect ALL of the UK? We're talking about the content filtering teams of six ISPs - that's a total of five hundred people at the absolute outside - deciding to be a little overzealous and/or not following up properly on the source for an image before deciding to block that IP. That's less than 0.00001% of the country screwing up and suddenly we're talking about "the fist of opression!" or some such similar farm slurry? Please. For God's sake man, stop overreacting. - Captain Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:12:00 - [27] Originally by: Shanzem Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 15:51:02 Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Shanzem Seriously people should earn some kind of identification system to inform the rest of the world.. yes that bloke is part of a select group of intelligent people do not question him or her about anything.. you listen to what they tell you, because go figure your just to incompetent to add or compare or hold judgment. (holy ** a rl geek card lol) You want people not to question what a figure of authority tells them? That is wrong, a figure of Authority is Not better educated, he or she went to college to study law, and moved into a political movement. how ever if you was to hold a large collection of professors from all uk universities and let them decide political and future preparation, this would be advantage. Better yet we would have a better education system in place then we do NOW, it is those people that ***ed about the dumming down of the English standards. Having a collection of the most bright and educated within the UK seems much much better way forward. Those will understand everything we know. and feel the same way we do. this current madness is killing the UK. it is really becoming painful now to live here. Well a figure of authority IS better educated in his case because in your previous post, you redefined a figure of authority to be someone who is eligible for a geek card. ____________________
Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:18:00 - [28] I've learnt a lot more from Wikipedia than I ever did from College - Infectious -
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:19:00 - [29] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:20:47 Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Shanzem Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 15:51:02 Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Shanzem Seriously people should earn some kind of identification system to inform the rest of the world.. yes that bloke is part of a select group of intelligent people do not question him or her about anything.. you listen to what they tell you, because go figure your just to incompetent to add or compare or hold judgment. (holy ** a rl geek card lol) You want people not to question what a figure of authority tells them? That is wrong, a figure of Authority is Not better educated, he or she went to college to study law, and moved into a political movement. how ever if you was to hold a large collection of professors from all uk universities and let them decide political and future preparation, this would be advantage. Better yet we would have a better education system in place then we do NOW, it is those people that ***ed about the dumming down of the English standards. Having a collection of the most bright and educated within the UK seems much much better way forward. Those will understand everything we know. and feel the same way we do. this current madness is killing the UK. it is really becoming painful now to live here. Well a figure of authority IS better educated in his case because in your previous post, you redefined a figure of authority to be someone who is eligible for a geek card. wrong as mr Brown only has a Degree in law.. nothing else.. Not a PHD. or masters. Geeks, have interests in many fields of science and technology and keep them selfs upto date through new media, (LIKE SLASHDOT) and given favorable condition will end up going to uni and going for phd`s -------------------------------------------
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:20:00 - [30] Oh and as for intellectuals running the country, do you have anyone in mind for the position? Most would tend to look at the position of PM and think "good grief, I'm glad I don't have THAT job". ____________________
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:22:00 - [31] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Oh and as for intellectuals running the country, do you have anyone in mind for the position? Most would tend to look at the position of PM and think "good grief, I'm glad I don't have THAT job". well to be fair thats why i was looking away from one singe unit or man making decisions, i was looking at a collection of Professors decide on actions and laws through votes. -------------------------------------------
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:23:00 - [32] Originally by: Shanzem wrong as mr Brown only has a Degree in law.. nothing else.. Not a PHD. or masters. I'm not talking about Brown. You said that people should shut up and listen to people who are highly educated. You're simply redefining the figure of authority to be those people. ____________________
Ren Surkova Arcana Imperii Ltd.	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:24:00 - [33] wikipedia must be destroyed sig filla, thread killa
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:25:00 - [34] Originally by: Stitcher wait, wait, wait.... How exactly does this in any way reflect ALL of the UK? We're talking about the content filtering teams of six ISPs - that's a total of five hundred people at the absolute outside - deciding to be a little overzealous and/or not following up properly on the source for an image before deciding to block that IP. That's less than 0.00001% of the country screwing up and suddenly we're talking about "the fist of opression!" or some such similar farm slurry? Please. For God's sake man, stop overreacting. your right your right.. But seriously get used to this ****, you English are going to lose ALOT. -------------------------------------------
nahtoh Caldari StrikerCorp Dark Trinity Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:29:00 - [35] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Shanzem wrong as mr Brown only has a Degree in law.. nothing else.. Not a PHD. or masters. I'm not talking about Brown. You said that people should shut up and listen to people who are highly educated. You're simply redefining the figure of authority to be those people. There does seem to be very large holes in pretty much all of his points. He does seem to be a slighty differnet flavour of what he says he is against. ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:31:00 - [36] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:37:49 Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Shanzem wrong as mr Brown only has a Degree in law.. nothing else.. Not a PHD. or masters. I'm not talking about Brown. You said that people should shut up and listen to people who are highly educated. You're simply redefining the figure of authority to be those people. ahh i see what you mean now, well yes. It makes no sense of having people like brown in power, his actions will only lead to bad choice due to the information present in front of him without the foresight of were this world is going. People who study science, and aim for PHDs have a lot better motive and general willingness to move forward. and a willingness to push education. but your right, that would put them in the position of power. and to be fair, i can find myself agreeing with the slash dot nerds alot. so go figure, what ever there on i must also be on. Ninja Edit: if you leave your idiots to there own demise, eventually you the educated person will not be respected and society collapses (see UK) Theres is a HUGE gap between what the people leaving school know (and can legally vote) and those of higher education. if you was to make it those who have degree or above vote, having a large collection of informed intelligence vote. -------------------------------------------
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:33:00 - [37] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:34:05 Originally by: nahtoh Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Shanzem wrong as mr Brown only has a Degree in law.. nothing else.. Not a PHD. or masters. I'm not talking about Brown. You said that people should shut up and listen to people who are highly educated. You're simply redefining the figure of authority to be those people. There does seem to be very large holes in pretty much all of his points. He does seem to be a slighty differnet flavour of what he says he is against. Actually i am supporting the idea of a collection of the UKs brightest in order to get a new goverment setup which runs without the need of one single man making decisions. and the decisions are spread over all the Educated people (professors) within the UK on a vote of policy. -------------------------------------------
Ren Surkova Arcana Imperii Ltd.	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:35:00 - [38] anybody who relies on wikipedia for anything more academic than 'I wonder if x has been referenced in an unfunny, yet interminable sitcom' is worthless and less wikipedia can only be a good thing and it's hilarious that you believe that a few isps blocking part of wikipedia is tantamount to some intellectual dark age sig filla, thread killa
nahtoh Caldari StrikerCorp Dark Trinity Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:38:00 - [39] Originally by: Shanzem Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:34:05 Originally by: nahtoh Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Shanzem wrong as mr Brown only has a Degree in law.. nothing else.. Not a PHD. or masters. I'm not talking about Brown. You said that people should shut up and listen to people who are highly educated. You're simply redefining the figure of authority to be those people. There does seem to be very large holes in pretty much all of his points. He does seem to be a slighty differnet flavour of what he says he is against. Actually i am supporting the idea of a collection of the UKs brightest in order to get a new goverment setup which runs without the need of one single man making decisions. and the decisions are spread over all the Educated people (professors) within the UK on a vote of policy. Yup like I said a very sligtly differnet version of those you disagree with...Just differnet people in charge, I would guess you expect to be higher up the chain than you are now... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:42:00 - [40] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:47:20 Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:45:45 There does seem to be very large holes in pretty much all of his points. He does seem to be a slighty differnet flavour of what he says he is against. Actually i am supporting the idea of a collection of the UKs brightest in order to get a new goverment setup which runs without the need of one single man making decisions. and the decisions are spread over all the Educated people (professors) within the UK on a vote of policy. Yup like I said a very sligtly differnet version of those you disagree with...Just differnet people in charge, I would guess you expect to be higher up the chain than you are now... no actually i enjoy my job i enjoy working in engineering, this way i can work on my small projects and robotics. social status isn't my gripe, its the growing trend in Anti intellectualisms i am seeing. i am by no means a genius etc, i was just a kid who enjoyed reading his books and loved his math [after leaving school going my own way , college etc] (note the job i am in ) A perfect little example of this is the following, ask a nice young fit and really attractive English girl on were words like "lol" and "rofl" and there language used to text there friends with. She will reply its text langauge etc and act is if they made it up, although it was actually geeks USING the same language years before them on the Internet. Geeks in the western world as educated young individuals have completely fallen of the map. to the point if you go out and do something completely different, interesting or educated you get called a genius, this happened to me. i do not want to go through this all over again or worse let somebody else go through it. -------------------------------------------
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:04:00 - [41] Originally by: Ren Surkova anybody who relies on wikipedia for anything more academic than 'I wonder if x has been referenced in an unfunny, yet interminable sitcom' is worthless and less wikipedia can only be a good thing and it's hilarious that you believe that a few isps blocking part of wikipedia is tantamount to some intellectual dark age Its just the practical application of having a tool, that can keep a large population (billions) upto date on world events, people, places , (Basic concept of science`s) etc all in one location that is interconnected so other areas on interests can be branched. out. and kept upto date (a book cannot do this) while adding a basic concept of mathematics and problem solving. Which is free, EVERYONE on this planet should have access to, and puts us in the same page as each other. -------------------------------------------
nahtoh Caldari StrikerCorp Dark Trinity Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:11:00 - [42] Originally by: Shanzem Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 17:06:04 Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:54:13 Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:47:20 Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:45:45 There does seem to be very large holes in pretty much all of his points. He does seem to be a slighty differnet flavour of what he says he is against. Actually i am supporting the idea of a collection of the UKs brightest in order to get a new goverment setup which runs without the need of one single man making decisions. and the decisions are spread over all the Educated people (professors) within the UK on a vote of policy. Yup like I said a very sligtly differnet version of those you disagree with...Just differnet people in charge, I would guess you expect to be higher up the chain than you are now... no actually i enjoy my job i enjoy working in engineering, this way i can work on my small projects and robotics. social status isn't my gripe, its the growing trend in Anti intellectualisms i am seeing. i am by no means a genius etc, i was just a kid who enjoyed reading his books and loved his math [after leaving school going my own way , college etc] (note the job i am in ) A perfect little example of this is the following, ask a nice young fit and really attractive English girl on were words like "lol" and "rofl" and there language used to text there friends with. She will reply its text langauge etc and act is if they made it up, although it was actually geeks USING the same language years before them on the Internet. Geeks in the western world as educated young individuals have completely fallen of the map. to the point if you go out and do something completely different, interesting or educated you get called a genius, this happened to me. i do not want to go through this all over again or worse let somebody else go through it. A lot of study right about now is going on to understand intelligence and how geeks fit in. Geeks Virgins c/d (im not .. geek got laid.. another story lol - was with girl) Second link Geek contact. And here you are claiming that shorthand notation is purely internet based...granted I am widing the net somewhat here, but it is what it is a form of shorthand notation. No more no less. ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Arianhod	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:16:00 - [43] This September will last for eternity, I don't really mind about that to be honest. Yes it's our heritage but getting history buggered up by the masses is nothing new. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Haruhiists - Supporting Linkification since 2008
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:21:00 - [44] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 17:24:29 Originally by: nahtoh Originally by: Shanzem Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 17:06:04 Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:54:13 Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:47:20 Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 16:45:45 There does seem to be very large holes in pretty much all of his points. He does seem to be a slighty differnet flavour of what he says he is against. Actually i am supporting the idea of a collection of the UKs brightest in order to get a new goverment setup which runs without the need of one single man making decisions. and the decisions are spread over all the Educated people (professors) within the UK on a vote of policy. Yup like I said a very sligtly differnet version of those you disagree with...Just differnet people in charge, I would guess you expect to be higher up the chain than you are now... no actually i enjoy my job i enjoy working in engineering, this way i can work on my small projects and robotics. social status isn't my gripe, its the growing trend in Anti intellectualisms i am seeing. i am by no means a genius etc, i was just a kid who enjoyed reading his books and loved his math [after leaving school going my own way , college etc] (note the job i am in ) A perfect little example of this is the following, ask a nice young fit and really attractive English girl on were words like "lol" and "rofl" and there language used to text there friends with. She will reply its text langauge etc and act is if they made it up, although it was actually geeks USING the same language years before them on the Internet. Geeks in the western world as educated young individuals have completely fallen of the map. to the point if you go out and do something completely different, interesting or educated you get called a genius, this happened to me. i do not want to go through this all over again or worse let somebody else go through it. A lot of study right about now is going on to understand intelligence and how geeks fit in. Geeks Virgins c/d (im not .. geek got laid.. another story lol - was with girl) Second link Geek contact. And here you are claiming that shorthand notation is purely internet based...granted I am widing the net somewhat here, but it is what it is a form of shorthand notation. No more no less. Agreed it was started by mainly Usenet just at the beginning on the Internet. and then spread to things like texting(SMS). Lol do some research, and start here Usenet. and please read this Rise of the Alpha geeks "But the biggest change was not Silicon Valley itself. Rather, the new technology created a range of mental playgrounds where the new geeks could display their cultural capital. The jock can shine on the football field, but the geeks can display their supple sensibilities and well-modulated emotions on their Facebook pages, blogs, text messages and Twitter feeds. Now there are armies of designers, researchers, media mavens and other cultural producers with a talent for whimsical self-mockery, arcane social references and late-night analysis." -------------------------------------------
nahtoh Caldari StrikerCorp Dark Trinity Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:24:00 - [45] Originally by: Shanzem Originally by: nahtoh Second link Geek contact. And here you are claiming that shorthand notation is purely internet based...granted I am widing the net somewhat here, but it is what it is a form of shorthand notation. No more no less. Agreed it was started by mainly Usenet just at the beginning on the Internet. Lol do some research, and start here Usenet. Point you are missing, shorthand notation predates computers ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:27:00 - [46] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 17:27:22 Originally by: nahtoh Originally by: Shanzem Originally by: nahtoh Second link Geek contact. And here you are claiming that shorthand notation is purely internet based...granted I am widing the net somewhat here, but it is what it is a form of shorthand notation. No more no less. Agreed it was started by mainly Usenet just at the beginning on the Internet. Lol do some research, and start here Usenet. Point you are missing, shorthand notation predates computers if you are referring to letters i know einstein and other well known professors used such notion. but i was assumed we was talking about those who lack said understanding. -------------------------------------------
nahtoh Caldari StrikerCorp Dark Trinity Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:29:00 - [47] Originally by: Shanzem Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 17:27:22 Originally by: nahtoh Originally by: Shanzem Originally by: nahtoh Second link Geek contact. And here you are claiming that shorthand notation is purely internet based...granted I am widing the net somewhat here, but it is what it is a form of shorthand notation. No more no less. Agreed it was started by mainly Usenet just at the beginning on the Internet. Lol do some research, and start here Usenet. Point you are missing, shorthand notation predates computers if you are referring to letters i know einstein and other well known professors used such notion. but i was assumed we was talking about those who lack said understanding. Actually I was refering to just shorthand, your blinkers are showing again. ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:32:00 - [48] [cit] linky to source please. -------------------------------------------
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:35:00 - [49] Edited by: Crumplecorn on 07/12/2008 17:34:45 Originally by: Shanzem Rise of the Alpha geeks "But the biggest change was not Silicon Valley itself. Rather, the new technology created a range of mental playgrounds where the new geeks could display their cultural capital. The jock can shine on the football field, but the geeks can display their supple sensibilities and well-modulated emotions on their Facebook pages, blogs, text messages and Twitter feeds." Epic, takes various examples of the clueless masses stumbling onto the Internet, and calls it a new culture of geeks. Yes, anyone who can use facebook is a geek, because social networking was always such a big geek thing, amirite? - DesuSigs
Ren Surkova Arcana Imperii Ltd.	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:37:00 - [50] Originally by: Shanzem Actually i am supporting the idea of a collection of the UKs brightest in order to get a new goverment setup which runs without the need of one single man making decisions. and the decisions are spread over all the Educated people (professors) within the UK on a vote of policy. Yup like I said a very sligtly differnet version of those you disagree with...Just differnet people in charge, I would guess you expect to be higher up the chain than you are now... no actually i enjoy my job i enjoy working in engineering, this way i can work on my small projects and robotics. social status isn't my gripe, its the growing trend in Anti intellectualisms i am seeing. i am by no means a genius etc, i was just a kid who enjoyed reading his books and loved his math [after leaving school going my own way , college etc] (note the job i am in ) A perfect little example of this is the following, ask a nice young fit and really attractive English girl on were words like "lol" and "rofl" and there language used to text there friends with. She will reply its text langauge etc and act is if they made it up, although it was actually geeks USING the same language years before them on the Internet. Geeks in the western world as educated young individuals have completely fallen of the map. to the point if you go out and do something completely different, interesting or educated you get called a genius, this happened to me. i do not want to go through this all over again or worse let somebody else go through it. A lot of study right about now is going on to understand intelligence and how geeks fit in. Geeks Virgins c/d (im not .. geek got laid.. another story lol - was with girl) Second link Geek contact. You aren't an intellectual. You rely on wikipedia. Also please tell us about the time you got laid!?! Whats a girl smell like? endearing incompetence? is it feeble empowerment though pseudo-intellectualism? how'd you get her? were you all 'heh, you know us 'geeks' were using your vaunted 'text language' some time before you vacuous enjoyers of life were'? plz answer I have so many questions sig filla, thread killa
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:38:00 - [51] Originally by: Arianhod This September will last for eternity, I don't really mind about that to be honest. Yes it's our heritage but getting history buggered up by the masses is nothing new. how can you know that.. we well and truly are on the same page LOL The day the mass amounts of idiots joined our world.. and have laid waste to such a beautiful thing. Eternal September -------------------------------------------
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:42:00 - [52] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 17:45:17 Originally by: Ren Surkova Originally by: Shanzem Actually i am supporting the idea of a collection of the UKs brightest in order to get a new goverment setup which runs without the need of one single man making decisions. and the decisions are spread over all the Educated people (professors) within the UK on a vote of policy. Yup like I said a very sligtly differnet version of those you disagree with...Just differnet people in charge, I would guess you expect to be higher up the chain than you are now... no actually i enjoy my job i enjoy working in engineering, this way i can work on my small projects and robotics. social status isn't my gripe, its the growing trend in Anti intellectualisms i am seeing. i am by no means a genius etc, i was just a kid who enjoyed reading his books and loved his math [after leaving school going my own way , college etc] (note the job i am in ) A perfect little example of this is the following, ask a nice young fit and really attractive English girl on were words like "lol" and "rofl" and there language used to text there friends with. She will reply its text langauge etc and act is if they made it up, although it was actually geeks USING the same language years before them on the Internet. Geeks in the western world as educated young individuals have completely fallen of the map. to the point if you go out and do something completely different, interesting or educated you get called a genius, this happened to me. i do not want to go through this all over again or worse let somebody else go through it. A lot of study right about now is going on to understand intelligence and how geeks fit in. Geeks Virgins c/d (im not .. geek got laid.. another story lol - was with girl) Second link Geek contact. You aren't an intellectual. You rely on wikipedia. Also please tell us about the time you got laid!?! Whats a girl smell like? endearing incompetence? is it feeble empowerment though pseudo-intellectualism? how'd you get her? were you all 'heh, you know us 'geeks' were using your vaunted 'text language' some time before you vacuous enjoyers of life were'? plz answer I have so many questions Actually i own a growing book pile at home, enough to warrant a book shelf, i have a large collection of E Book that a read through, and through my reading it has gotten me a place in Engineering, and Electrnoic Engineering, i do robotics in my spare time. and this is coming from someone who only has a Diploma in computer science. i am looking towards going back to University and getting a degree. And as a for a Vacuous lover of life, why are you playing a MMORPG, shouldn't you be a socialite? -------------------------------------------
Ren Surkova Arcana Imperii Ltd.	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:43:00 - [53] Edited by: Ren Surkova on 07/12/2008 17:45:14 the fact that you need to justify yourself to an internet stranger says it all really edit:also holy ***! a book shelf?!? backs off hands raised* sig filla, thread killa
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:46:00 - [54] Originally by: Ren Surkova Edited by: Ren Surkova on 07/12/2008 17:45:14 the fact that you need to justify yourself to an internet stranger says it all really edit:also holy ***! a book shelf?!? backs off hands raised* I was merely having a discussion. what rattled your tree -------------------------------------------
Eran Laude Gallente The Aduro Protocol Doctrine.	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:48:00 - [55] Shanzem, for one supposedly as intelligent/diligent as yourself, shouldn't you stop posting rubbish on internet spaceships forumz and start building the first robotic tea cosy? Just a thought.
Ren Surkova Arcana Imperii Ltd.	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:51:00 - [56] Originally by: Shanzem what rattled your tree nothing really it's just funny to see wikipedia canonised by garden variety unwarranted internet elitism sig filla, thread killa
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 18:03:00 - [57] Originally by: Eran Laude Shanzem, for one supposedly as intelligent/diligent as yourself, shouldn't you stop posting rubbish on internet spaceships forumz and start building the first robotic tea cosy? Just a thought. meh i am just trolling. My chassis i have brought, its roughly going to take a week to deliver, i was going to CNC one at work but the material on hand was to heavy, its going to be a quadrupedal robot, i am going to use a Aconome Brainstem IIand a Devantech SD21 Servo Module to move the Servos which will form the legs. -------------------------------------------
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 18:04:00 - [58] Originally by: Crumplecorn Edited by: Crumplecorn on 07/12/2008 17:34:45 Originally by: Shanzem Rise of the Alpha geeks "But the biggest change was not Silicon Valley itself. Rather, the new technology created a range of mental playgrounds where the new geeks could display their cultural capital. The jock can shine on the football field, but the geeks can display their supple sensibilities and well-modulated emotions on their Facebook pages, blogs, text messages and Twitter feeds." Epic, takes various examples of the clueless masses stumbling onto the Internet, and calls it a new culture of geeks. Yes, anyone who can use facebook is a geek, because social networking was always such a big geek thing, amirite? lets not go there, the masses are so out of touch with what a geek is. it isn't even funny. -------------------------------------------
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 18:08:00 - [59] Originally by: Ren Surkova Originally by: Shanzem what rattled your tree nothing really it's just funny to see wikipedia canonised by garden variety unwarranted internet elitism To be perfectly fair Elitism is going to get worse s humanity moves on in the western world. its focus on lack of education and more on mass market and media run country's is creating social problems. see (Chav) whats funny is when a geek like myself Internet space pew pew person, works in engineering. doing CNC machining and lifting steel. -------------------------------------------
Zephyr Rengate Caldari Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2008.12.07 18:15:00 - [60] Oh my why did I enter this thread?
Ren Surkova Arcana Imperii Ltd.	Posted - 2008.12.07 18:23:00 - [61] Originally by: Shanzem Originally by: Ren Surkova Originally by: Shanzem what rattled your tree nothing really it's just funny to see wikipedia canonised by garden variety unwarranted internet elitism To be perfectly fair Elitism is going to get worse s humanity moves on in the western world. its focus on lack of education and more on mass market and media run country's is creating social problems. see (Chav) whats funny is when a geek like myself Internet space pew pew person, works in engineering. doing CNC machining and lifting steel. yeah, unless ordinary people start respecting your meaningless achievements then society will go into a downward spiral sig filla, thread killa
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 20:03:00 - [62] Originally by: Ren Surkova Originally by: Shanzem Originally by: Ren Surkova Originally by: Shanzem what rattled your tree nothing really it's just funny to see wikipedia canonised by garden variety unwarranted internet elitism To be perfectly fair Elitism is going to get worse s humanity moves on in the western world. its focus on lack of education and more on mass market and media run country's is creating social problems. see (Chav) whats funny is when a geek like myself Internet space pew pew person, works in engineering. doing CNC machining and lifting steel. yeah, unless ordinary people start respecting your meaningless achievements then society will go into a downward spiral How can you class physical science and humanity greatest achievements, that have been done as a collective and group a mostly by the geeks of your society (the intelligent) how can respecting there creativity and education and good motives be the brining of the downward spiral of humanity? . -------------------------------------------
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.12.07 20:19:00 - [63] Originally by: Shanzem How can you class physical science and humanity greatest achievements, that have been done as a collective and group a mostly by the geeks of your society (the intelligent) how can respecting there creativity and education and good motives be the brining of the downward spiral of humanity? . Better yet i would like to know what achievements you have done in order to show your appreciation for the country you have been raised in. So if i built a Nuclear fusion device (a small Nuclear fusion reactor, with the abbility to produce x-rays and a small plasma reaction (same seen on the sun), and its something that my little town can be proud of, are you saying respecting things like that are bad? Contrapositive reversal. You fail. ____________________
Daxel Magmalloy Caldari Praetorian BlackGuard	Posted - 2008.12.07 20:25:00 - [64] Originally by: Shanzem How can you class physical science and humanity greatest achievements, that have been done as a collective and group a mostly by the geeks of your society (the intelligent) how can respecting there creativity and education and good motives be the brining of the downward spiral of humanity? . Better yet i would like to know what achievements you have done in order to show your appreciation for the country you have been raised in. So if i built a Nuclear fusion device (a small Nuclear fusion reactor, with the abbility to produce x-rays and a small plasma reaction (same seen on the sun), and its something that my little town can be proud of, are you saying respecting things like that are bad? If I read the way you are replying correctly, perhaps if you want to put yourself in the same group as Isaac Newton, Michael Faraday, Alan Turing etc (all English btw) then maybe you should achieve something significant yourself first. Yes you could overcome all the barriers that prevent nuclear fusion from being a viable source of energy, that could give you some pretext to having your attitude. You'd probably still need to get a girlfriend though.
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 20:33:00 - [65] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 20:35:24 Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 20:33:27 Originally by: Daxel Magmalloy Originally by: Shanzem How can you class physical science and humanity greatest achievements, that have been done as a collective and group a mostly by the geeks of your society (the intelligent) how can respecting there creativity and education and good motives be the brining of the downward spiral of humanity? . Better yet i would like to know what achievements you have done in order to show your appreciation for the country you have been raised in. So if i built a Nuclear fusion device (a small Nuclear fusion reactor, with the abbility to produce x-rays and a small plasma reaction (same seen on the sun), and its something that my little town can be proud of, are you saying respecting things like that are bad? If I read the way you are replying correctly, perhaps if you want to put yourself in the same group as Isaac Newton, Michael Faraday, Alan Turing etc (all English btw) then maybe you should achieve something significant yourself first. Yes you could overcome all the barriers that prevent nuclear fusion from being a viable source of energy, that could give you some pretext to having your attitude. You'd probably still need to get a girlfriend though. your a little off, its actually an amature adventure, into Nuclear physics Fusor project all detailed in there, go read.. no dark magic. just good science and Engineering. Star mode is when the pressure from the gas and enough negative voltage is used that the positive electrons collide creating plasma. -------------------------------------------
Daxel Magmalloy Caldari Praetorian BlackGuard	Posted - 2008.12.07 20:37:00 - [66] Originally by: Shanzem Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 20:33:27 Originally by: Daxel Magmalloy Originally by: Shanzem How can you class physical science and humanity greatest achievements, that have been done as a collective and group a mostly by the geeks of your society (the intelligent) how can respecting there creativity and education and good motives be the brining of the downward spiral of humanity? . Better yet i would like to know what achievements you have done in order to show your appreciation for the country you have been raised in. So if i built a Nuclear fusion device (a small Nuclear fusion reactor, with the abbility to produce x-rays and a small plasma reaction (same seen on the sun), and its something that my little town can be proud of, are you saying respecting things like that are bad? If I read the way you are replying correctly, perhaps if you want to put yourself in the same group as Isaac Newton, Michael Faraday, Alan Turing etc (all English btw) then maybe you should achieve something significant yourself first. Yes you could overcome all the barriers that prevent nuclear fusion from being a viable source of energy, that could give you some pretext to having your attitude. You'd probably still need to get a girlfriend though. your a little off, its actually an amature adventure, into Nuclear physics Fusor project all detailed in there, go read.. no dark magic. just good science and Engineering. Oh well. Looks like you won't be able to put yourself in quite the same group then.
Ren Surkova Arcana Imperii Ltd.	Posted - 2008.12.07 20:40:00 - [67] Edited by: Ren Surkova on 07/12/2008 20:40:33 Originally by: Shanzem Better yet i would like to know what achievements you have done in order to show your appreciation for the country you have been raised in. I invented dice when I was a kid. You're a wannabe intellectual with a crippling entitlement complex, whose only claim to relevance is some robo nonsense. sig filla, thread killa
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 20:42:00 - [68] Originally by: Daxel Magmalloy Originally by: Shanzem Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 20:33:27 Originally by: Daxel Magmalloy Originally by: Shanzem How can you class physical science and humanity greatest achievements, that have been done as a collective and group a mostly by the geeks of your society (the intelligent) how can respecting there creativity and education and good motives be the brining of the downward spiral of humanity? . Better yet i would like to know what achievements you have done in order to show your appreciation for the country you have been raised in. So if i built a Nuclear fusion device (a small Nuclear fusion reactor, with the abbility to produce x-rays and a small plasma reaction (same seen on the sun), and its something that my little town can be proud of, are you saying respecting things like that are bad? If I read the way you are replying correctly, perhaps if you want to put yourself in the same group as Isaac Newton, Michael Faraday, Alan Turing etc (all English btw) then maybe you should achieve something significant yourself first. Yes you could overcome all the barriers that prevent nuclear fusion from being a viable source of energy, that could give you some pretext to having your attitude. You'd probably still need to get a girlfriend though. your a little off, its actually an amature adventure, into Nuclear physics Fusor project all detailed in there, go read.. no dark magic. just good science and Engineering. Oh well. Looks like you won't be able to put yourself in quite the same group then. Nor was i trying to did i not say i was just a geek -------------------------------------------
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 20:44:00 - [69] Originally by: Ren Surkova Edited by: Ren Surkova on 07/12/2008 20:40:33 Originally by: Shanzem Better yet i would like to know what achievements you have done in order to show your appreciation for the country you have been raised in. I invented dice when I was a kid. You're a wannabe intellectual with a crippling entitlement complex, whose only claim to relevance is some robo nonsense. you must be quite old then "Sophocles (496 - 406 BC), the Greek poet and tragedian, claimed that dice were invented by the Greek, Palamedes, during the siege of Troy. Herodotus (b. 484 BC?), historian and acquaintance of Sophocles, said they were invented by the Lydians of Asia Minor. But dice date back further than this. Egyptian tombs, dated to 2000 BC, have been found containing dice and dice reputedly dated to 6000 BC have been uncovered in archaeological excavations. Dice were developed independently by many ancient cultures all over the world and did not simply originate and spread from any one place." -------------------------------------------
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 20:48:00 - [70] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Shanzem How can you class physical science and humanity greatest achievements, that have been done as a collective and group a mostly by the geeks of your society (the intelligent) how can respecting there creativity and education and good motives be the brining of the downward spiral of humanity? . Better yet i would like to know what achievements you have done in order to show your appreciation for the country you have been raised in. So if i built a Nuclear fusion device (a small Nuclear fusion reactor, with the abbility to produce x-rays and a small plasma reaction (same seen on the sun), and its something that my little town can be proud of, are you saying respecting things like that are bad? Contrapositive reversal. You fail. you have me there although to be fair it was hypothetical! -------------------------------------------
Ren Surkova Arcana Imperii Ltd.	Posted - 2008.12.07 20:49:00 - [71] Originally by: Shanzem "Sophocles (496 - 406 BC), the Greek poet and tragedian, claimed that dice were invented by the Greek, Palamedes, during the siege of Troy. Herodotus (b. 484 BC?), historian and acquaintance of Sophocles, said they were invented by the Lydians of Asia Minor. But dice date back further than this. Egyptian tombs, dated to 2000 BC, have been found containing dice and dice reputedly dated to 6000 BC have been uncovered in archaeological excavations. Dice were developed independently by many ancient cultures all over the world and did not simply originate and spread from any one place." goes into shanzem mode is a socially stunted, sperging yutz with no sense of humor and delusions of granduer That's obviously a case of vandalised wikipedia. Dice were invented in 1994 by Dean Catarino on a rainy sunday when there was **** all on tv. sig filla, thread killa
Daxel Magmalloy Caldari Praetorian BlackGuard	Posted - 2008.12.07 20:49:00 - [72] Edited by: Daxel Magmalloy on 07/12/2008 20:49:10 Originally by: Shanzem did i not say i was just a geek Glad we got that clarified
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 20:51:00 - [73] Originally by: Daxel Magmalloy Edited by: Daxel Magmalloy on 07/12/2008 20:49:10 Originally by: Shanzem did i not say i was just a geek Glad we got that clarified In fact i have never stated otherwise -------------------------------------------
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 20:52:00 - [74] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 20:53:13 Originally by: Ren Surkova Originally by: Shanzem "Sophocles (496 - 406 BC), the Greek poet and tragedian, claimed that dice were invented by the Greek, Palamedes, during the siege of Troy. Herodotus (b. 484 BC?), historian and acquaintance of Sophocles, said they were invented by the Lydians of Asia Minor. But dice date back further than this. Egyptian tombs, dated to 2000 BC, have been found containing dice and dice reputedly dated to 6000 BC have been uncovered in archaeological excavations. Dice were developed independently by many ancient cultures all over the world and did not simply originate and spread from any one place." goes into shanzem mode is a socially stunted, sperging yutz with no sense of humor and delusions of granduer That's obviously a case of vandalised wikipedia. Dice were invented in 1994 by Dean Catarino on a rainy sunday when there was **** all on tv. i have a fan although to be fair, i still want to know whats rocked your tree! -------------------------------------------
Ren Surkova Arcana Imperii Ltd.	Posted - 2008.12.07 20:56:00 - [75] Edited by: Ren Surkova on 07/12/2008 20:56:46 Originally by: Shanzem i have a fan although to be fair, i still want to know whats rocked your tree! wow, you actually do that 'looks like I got a cult following lawl' whenever someone trolls you for being banal faux-intelligentsia white noise. For some reason I thought you were better than that. I'm mainly doing this for the same reason I invented dice all those years ago. By the way, fix the dice wiki, would you? sig filla, thread killa
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 21:18:00 - [76] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 21:28:08 Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 21:18:51 Originally by: Ren Surkova Edited by: Ren Surkova on 07/12/2008 20:56:46 Originally by: Shanzem i have a fan although to be fair, i still want to know whats rocked your tree! wow, you actually do that 'looks like I got a cult following lawl' whenever someone trolls you for being banal faux-intelligentsia white noise. For some reason I thought you were better than that. I'm mainly doing this for the same reason I invented dice all those years ago. By the way, fix the dice wiki, would you? Ok troll, i will bite for the laugh, if you invented the Dice, what purpose did you intend for it? and what made you decide to use 6 sides as a standard rather then 3?, and why only start from 1 to 8, why didn't you use different numbers? why not prime numbers? -------------------------------------------
Ren Surkova Arcana Imperii Ltd.	Posted - 2008.12.07 21:30:00 - [77] Originally by: Shanzem Ok troll, i will bite for the laugh, if you invented the Dice, what purpose did you intend for it? and what made you decide to use 4 sides as a standard rather then 3?, and why only start from 1 to 8, why didn't you use different numbers? ah, another textbook symptom of being a witless dolt who desperately wants to associate his lack of social skills with people who are far smarter than he is. even a facetious comment can be dragged out and dissected if it allows the subject to showcase pedantry and/or wikipedia assisted sense of smugness sig filla, thread killa
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 21:34:00 - [78] Originally by: Ren Surkova Originally by: Shanzem Ok troll, i will bite for the laugh, if you invented the Dice, what purpose did you intend for it? and what made you decide to use 4 sides as a standard rather then 3?, and why only start from 1 to 8, why didn't you use different numbers? ah, another textbook symptom of being a witless dolt who desperately wants to associate his lack of social skills with people who are far smarter than he is. even a facetious comment can be dragged out and dissected if it allows the subject to showcase pedantry and/or wikipedia assisted sense of smugness yeah your right i guess i better stop trolling. although it baffles the mind why your so offended by my posts, -------------------------------------------
Ren Surkova Arcana Imperii Ltd.	Posted - 2008.12.07 21:42:00 - [79] it doesn't offend me. it amuses me that you elevate yourself to such a lofty position and view yourself and others like you as necessary for humanity. it amuses me that you project this tired 'unwashed masses' archetype onto anyone who isn't convinced that you're an intellectual or impressed with your underwhelming achievements. it amuses me that this thread that was about the merits of wikipedia and the effect it's censorship would have on britain has become about you and your entitlement complex, although I think that was a group effort highfive. sig filla, thread killa
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 21:49:00 - [80] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 21:52:16 Originally by: Ren Surkova it doesn't offend me. it amuses me that you elevate yourself to such a lofty position and view yourself and others like you as necessary for humanity. it amuses me that you project this tired 'unwashed masses' archetype onto anyone who isn't convinced that you're an intellectual or impressed with your underwhelming achievements. it amuses me that this thread that was about the merits of wikipedia and the effect it's censorship would have on britain has become about you and your entitlement complex, although I think that was a group effort highfive. You are 100% absolutely correct, what was i thinking. Geeks should be classed as a mental illness. I mean seriously what normal human being spends his time reading books. i should be watching TV, or out side socializing. go figure i wouldn't be insulting chavs i would be one. -------------------------------------------
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.12.07 21:54:00 - [81] And still, he keeps digging... ____________________
Ren Surkova Arcana Imperii Ltd.	Posted - 2008.12.07 21:56:00 - [82] yeah, nobody reads books but you and the group you identify with. everyone else is a knuckledragging airhead. you should probably close this thread now sig filla, thread killa
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 21:56:00 - [83] Originally by: ReaperOfSly And still, he keeps digging... no just trolling, i am board -------------------------------------------
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.12.07 22:30:00 - [84] Originally by: Shanzem Originally by: ReaperOfSly And still, he keeps digging... no just trolling, i am board Plywood? MDF? ____________________
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 22:38:00 - [85] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 22:44:29 Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 22:43:26 Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 22:42:48 Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Shanzem Originally by: ReaperOfSly And still, he keeps digging... no just trolling, i am board Plywood? MDF? curse the English language, i am bored! i am currently drinking a Hobgoblin ale so my spelling isn't going to be the best Whats the matter larger boy, scared you might taste something! Second note.. i actually found something i like about the English! also i look like that in real life -------------------------------------------
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.12.07 23:07:00 - [86] Hobgoblin is okay, but it doesn't hold a candle to Sarah Hughes Dark Ruby Mild. By the way folk, this thread is now about ale. ____________________
KingsGambit Caldari Knights	Posted - 2008.12.07 23:07:00 - [87] All I was able to understand from that article was that one album cover was blocked. Unless I missed something else, how'd it go from a single blocked image to complete site censorship?? -------------
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 23:10:00 - [88] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Hobgoblin is okay, but it doesn't hold a candle to Sarah Hughes Dark Ruby Mild. By the way folk, this thread is now about ale. lol! ok another ale for me to try! old peculiar is a very nice ale to drink while sitting down and getting oneself in a good book!, i have been looking for a good mystery book for some time to go with the drink and mood -------------------------------------------
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.12.07 23:12:00 - [89] I understood that the whole of Wikipedia had been blocked or something? I wouldn't know though - I'm with BT and they don't seem to have blocked it. I can even view the page with the "offending" image. ____________________
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 23:13:00 - [90] Originally by: ReaperOfSly I understood that the whole of Wikipedia had been blocked or something? I wouldn't know though - I'm with BT and they don't seem to have blocked it. I can even view the page with the "offending" image. AAAAAH so now you see why i was *****ing so much, wikipieda right now for me is hit and miss. -------------------------------------------
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.12.07 23:13:00 - [91] Edited by: ReaperOfSly on 07/12/2008 23:14:17 Originally by: Shanzem Originally by: ReaperOfSly Hobgoblin is okay, but it doesn't hold a candle to Sarah Hughes Dark Ruby Mild. By the way folk, this thread is now about ale. lol! ok another ale for me to try! old peculiar is a very nice ale to drink while sitting down and getting oneself in a good book!, i have been looking for a good mystery book for some time to go with the drink and mood Depends if you can get hold of it. I only ever noticed it when I was living in Cov. Also, you tried Tribute and U.B.U? They used to consist of most of my beer consumption simply by virtue of being the two ales the pub at uni served. ____________________
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 23:15:00 - [92] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 23:15:32 Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Shanzem Originally by: ReaperOfSly Hobgoblin is okay, but it doesn't hold a candle to Sarah Hughes Dark Ruby Mild. By the way folk, this thread is now about ale. lol! ok another ale for me to try! old peculiar is a very nice ale to drink while sitting down and getting oneself in a good book!, i have been looking for a good mystery book for some time to go with the drink and mood Depends if you can get hold of it. I only ever noticed it when I was living in Cov. see thats the thing i actually live in a very odd part of england, some of it is still in the past, and not present, i actually know a few pubs that do cast ales so i can still get hold of real ales. one thing.. at least the English understand the concept f drink. -------------------------------------------
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.12.07 23:18:00 - [93] I think I'd go crazy if I had to live somewhere with no real* pub nearby. *of course by "real", I mean one that has cask ale in it. Not Wetherspoons. ____________________
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 23:20:00 - [94] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Edited by: ReaperOfSly on 07/12/2008 23:14:17 Originally by: Shanzem Originally by: ReaperOfSly Hobgoblin is okay, but it doesn't hold a candle to Sarah Hughes Dark Ruby Mild. By the way folk, this thread is now about ale. lol! ok another ale for me to try! old peculiar is a very nice ale to drink while sitting down and getting oneself in a good book!, i have been looking for a good mystery book for some time to go with the drink and mood Depends if you can get hold of it. I only ever noticed it when I was living in Cov. Also, you tried Tribute and U.B.U? They used to consist of most of my beer consumption simply by virtue of being the two ales the pub at uni served. i would be so bold to say you studied mathematics at uni your contrapositive statement kind of blew me away. i know mathematics is such a vital tool, but for someone to use it even when dealing with words and alphabet (a completely different tool and mindset) was rather impressive somthing new to learn -------------------------------------------
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.07 23:24:00 - [95] Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 23:25:57 Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 23:23:50 Originally by: ReaperOfSly I think I'd go crazy if I had to live somewhere with no real* pub nearby. *of course by "real", I mean one that has cask ale in it. Not Wetherspoons. yeah thats probably a part of the English heritage actually like, small quite pubs, little to no people in, its a nice warm environment. drinking real ales after doing some hard work, me and my old man (Engineer like myself) visits one during Saturday afternoons, sit down and have an ale while discussing work or one of my current projects. -------------------------------------------
nahtoh Caldari StrikerCorp Dark Trinity Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.07 23:50:00 - [96] Originally by: ReaperOfSly I understood that the whole of Wikipedia had been blocked or something? I wouldn't know though - I'm with BT and they don't seem to have blocked it. I can even view the page with the "offending" image. No, wackipedia has banned edits from the ip addresses that are a side effect of the IWF blocking the image. ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Shanzem Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.12.08 00:22:00 - [97] Originally by: Ren Surkova yeah, nobody reads books but you and the group you identify with. everyone else is a knuckledragging airhead. you should probably close this thread now you've never met the English -------------------------------------------
Ren Surkova Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.12.08 05:38:00 - [98] Originally by: Shanzem Originally by: Ren Surkova yeah, nobody reads books but you and the group you identify with. everyone else is a knuckledragging airhead. you should probably close this thread now you've never met the English haven't I? sig filla, thread killa
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2008.12.08 09:18:00 - [99] The disruption to wikipedia isn't as significant as some people have made out. You can still register and log in if you want to edit pages even if your ISP is forcing you to use the same proxy for wiki access as all of their other customers. It just means that those affected can't make anonymous (i.e. IP-only) edits. --- Can't afford that BPO? Look here. 20:1 mineral compression The EVE f@h team
Reven Cordelle Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.12.08 09:29:00 - [100] Haha, I clicked on this thread, read about Shanzem being a "raving lunatic"... Clicked over to page 4, first post is about BEER. Still, I can get straight onto the page here... It is a bit risquT I'll say that. But considering other things on the internet like "2 Girls 1 Cup" which is highly publicised and even worse... well. Far be it from me to expect society to have any sense of priority. And yes the UK and the majority of its population that don't notice the state of the country are slack-jawed ******s that really need to look up from their cellphone or beer glass to notice. Disclaimer : I live in the UK, and I want out.
Thorliaron Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.12.08 11:32:00 - [101] Originally by: Shanzem Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 15:57:15 Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 15:26:54 Edited by: Shanzem on 07/12/2008 15:22:11 slashdot somebody explain to me whats going off?? Didnt i get the memo??? " To the administrators of Wikipedia: Play hardball. Block those 6 IPs from any access whatsoever, explain why, stick to your guns. The worst thing that will happen is, people in the UK will become stupider, while those who are not participating in this censorship will be advantaged, so your enemies will diminish themselves by their own hand and your friends will become more powerful allies by virtue of the gift you have given them." Best quote so far. So some ip's stopped you looking a picture of a naked prepubesent girl, you upset because you can no longer get your free pedo kicks?
Captain Hudson Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.12.08 11:36:00 - [102] Originally by: Shanzem Originally by: Stitcher wait, wait, wait.... How exactly does this in any way reflect ALL of the UK? We're talking about the content filtering teams of six ISPs - that's a total of five hundred people at the absolute outside - deciding to be a little overzealous and/or not following up properly on the source for an image before deciding to block that IP. That's less than 0.00001% of the country screwing up and suddenly we're talking about "the fist of opression!" or some such similar farm slurry? Please. For God's sake man, stop overreacting. your right your right.. But seriously get used to this ****, you English are going to lose ALOT. one minute your english then the next your not english, make up your mind man Iv found him
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.	Posted - 2008.12.08 13:39:00 - [103] Originally by: Captain Hudson Originally by: Shanzem Originally by: Stitcher wait, wait, wait.... How exactly does this in any way reflect ALL of the UK? We're talking about the content filtering teams of six ISPs - that's a total of five hundred people at the absolute outside - deciding to be a little overzealous and/or not following up properly on the source for an image before deciding to block that IP. That's less than 0.00001% of the country screwing up and suddenly we're talking about "the fist of opression!" or some such similar farm slurry? Please. For God's sake man, stop overreacting. your right your right.. But seriously get used to this ****, you English are going to lose ALOT. one minute your english then the next your not english, make up your mind man I'm cheering for "not".

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