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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
565
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Posted - 2012.04.10 20:21:00 -
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So we keep getting told the Jove are out there, and nothing ever happens. It's coming up on a decade of EvE online. Are we ever going to see the Jove? I mean honestly?
...and how cool would it be if the EvE gate opened again and various Terran empires came through? If we hit a million paid accounts would you start considering an expansion like that?
Anyone else want to see Jove ships?
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Timural
High Flyers
RED.OverLord
5
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Posted - 2012.04.10 20:26:00 -
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No not unless there was a valid gameplay mechanic pertaining to them.
Story wise I don't really care. Jove is better as an enigma. |
Traejun DiSanctis
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.04.10 20:30:00 -
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Right now, all that is basically meaningless flavor. Would it be cool? Sure. Do I really care? Nah. |
Alexa Coates
The Scope
Gallente Federation
91
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Posted - 2012.04.10 20:31:00 -
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jove are almost dead, soon enough they'll be like talocans and sleepers, dead and extinct. 'Cept maybe we can salvage their ships.
Love my Gallente Federation Navy ships! |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
565
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Posted - 2012.04.10 20:34:00 -
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Alexa Coates wrote:jove are almost dead, soon enough they'll be like talocans and sleepers, dead and extinct. 'Cept maybe we can salvage their ships.
You might be right. It would be a lazy waste tho'...
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Kieron VonDeux
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Posted - 2012.04.10 20:40:00 -
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The Jove Expansion is right after TotalHellDeath, but I hear that TotalHellDealth will have a Jove Expansion Escalation in it.
Both are on the Soon(tm) backlog. |
Mark Androcius
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Posted - 2012.04.10 20:48:00 -
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The Jovians are only there for 2 reason.
1) so the devs have their own space to play around in.
2) because they balance the odds between the races ( like it was said in Clear Skies ), one faction may never poses technology that could topple another and so the Jovians share their technology, up to as much as is needed, to keep things even.
One more thing, opening the EVE wormhole again ( and the Jovians as a playable race of course ), will lead to massive imbalance ( unless of course, through some magic way, the "earthlings" did not evolve their technology ).
Yes i am dutch, no i don't do drugs. |
Natassia Krasnoo
R3D SHIFT
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Posted - 2012.04.10 21:39:00 -
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Mark Androcius wrote:The Jovians are only there for 2 reason.
1) so the devs have their own space to play around in.
2) because they balance the odds between the races ( like it was said in Clear Skies ), one faction may never poses technology that could topple another and so the Jovians share their technology, up to as much as is needed, to keep things even.
One more thing, opening the EVE wormhole again ( and the Jovians as a playable race of course ), will lead to massive imbalance ( unless of course, through some magic way, the "earthlings" did not evolve their technology ).
^^
This.
Considering that the Terran Corps/Empires have had hundreds or maybe thousands of years to develop their tech unless the collapse of the EVE Gate affected them the same way as New Eden.
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Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
165
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Posted - 2012.04.10 21:45:00 -
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Mark Androcius wrote:The Jovians are only there for 2 reason.
1) so the devs have their own space to play around in.
2) because they balance the odds between the races ( like it was said in Clear Skies ), one faction may never poses technology that could topple another and so the Jovians share their technology, up to as much as is needed, to keep things even.
One more thing, opening the EVE wormhole again ( and the Jovians as a playable race of course ), will lead to massive imbalance ( unless of course, through some magic way, the "earthlings" did not evolve their technology ).
know, I wonder if Jove space isnt a pre-test server. To test stuff before they put it on the other shard
Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you. |
Buzzmong
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
190
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Posted - 2012.04.10 21:52:00 -
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The problem with the Jove in EVE terms is essentially the same problem Star Wars Galaxies had (pre NGE):
If you give people a way to access something which is designed to be better than everything else, as the number of them increases, they end up ruining the game for everyone else or becoming so common that they render everything else obsolete.
On the flipside, if said item is designed only to be equal to everything else and offer nothing more for extra difficulty in getting access to it, you have to ask, what's the point?
(*as a side note, I'd imagine as SW:TOR has flopped that Lucasarts might now realise this and make the next SW mmo explore the actually rather rich SW universe, rather than focus on Force Users). |
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Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
658
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Posted - 2012.04.10 21:59:00 -
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It took several thousand in universe years for the Reapers to do anything with humanity.
10 years is just a drop in the bucket. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
565
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Posted - 2012.04.10 22:02:00 -
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Buzzmong wrote:The problem with the Jove in EVE terms is essentially the same problem Star Wars Galaxies had (pre NGE):
If you give people a way to access something which is designed to be better than everything else, as the number of them increases, they end up ruining the game for everyone else or becoming so common that they render everything else obsolete.
On the flipside, if said item is designed only to be equal to everything else and offer nothing more for extra difficulty in getting access to it, you have to ask, what's the point?
(*as a side note, I'd imagine as SW:TOR has flopped that Lucasarts might now realise this and make the next SW mmo explore the actually rather rich SW universe, rather than focus on Force Users).
I think it could be balanced and knock out the bittervet cries for more content at the same time. What if to fly a Jove frigate you had to have all race frigates at 5 to train jove frig 1? Jove ships should have omni-stats, meaning like the sensors on the apotheosis at +10 to all sensor strengths. However, you could only give them a slight advantage, maybe say (just as an example) shields would have equal resists to all damages but only 35%, and there is an added penalty to boosting resists to all non-jove modules (including T2). In that way, yes you could have a f*** off jove frig fitted with all jove tec, but it would be a hero fit like that 80 billion isk mission runner BS that got ganked in empire the other week. Crazy expensive because jove mods (the ones that don't receive the penalty and only fittable on jove ships) are really rare. So Jove BS would require all race BS at 5 and only give the slightest advantage... it would still be fodder for any small low sec gang of pirates.
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Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
165
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Posted - 2012.04.10 22:05:00 -
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Buzzmong wrote:
(*as a side note, I'd imagine as SW:TOR has flopped that Lucasarts might now realise this and make the next SW mmo explore the actually rather rich SW universe, rather than focus on Force Users).
wow wasnt aware it flopped
when did that happen? It still looks going to me
(though iot IS funny they tossed out the storyline before the first expansion... allowing Sith to be jedi lol)
Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you. |
valerydarcy
Mindstar Technology
Executive Outcomes
89
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Posted - 2012.04.10 22:06:00 -
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everyone knows jove ships are 8/8/8. They must never be unleashed
Post with your mainGäó |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
658
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Posted - 2012.04.10 22:07:00 -
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valerydarcy wrote:everyone knows jove ships are 8/8/8. They must never be unleashed
Even worse... they are 24/24/24. |
Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
166
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Posted - 2012.04.10 22:08:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:valerydarcy wrote:everyone knows jove ships are 8/8/8. They must never be unleashed Even worse... they are 24/24/24.
thought they were 9001/9001/9001/9001
Goons; infiltration at its best - first bob... now ccp itself. They dont realize you guys dot take this as "just a game". Bring it down guys, we're rooting for you. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
566
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Posted - 2012.04.10 22:10:00 -
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valerydarcy wrote:everyone knows jove ships are 8/8/8. They must never be unleashed
Actually that's an interesting point too... maybe in rebalancing the Jove ships they get the awesome stats but get handicapped on slots, so whereas a jove frig balanced against some kind of assault frig interceptor hybrid might otherwise get 4 lows, it gets 3.... and so on. If Jove modules are on the frig it is tactically superior, albeit expensive. If it's T2 fitted it's at a disadvantage (again, from an absolute and incidental tactical standpoint)
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ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
Galactic-Rangers
100
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Posted - 2012.04.10 22:13:00 -
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Gogela wrote:So we keep getting told the Jove are out there, and nothing ever happens. It's coming up on a decade of EvE online. Are we ever going to see the Jove? I mean honestly?
...and how cool would it be if the EvE gate opened again and various Terran empires came through? If we hit a million paid accounts would you start considering an expansion like that?
Anyone else want to see Jove ships?
shhh its a supprise. |
Lost Greybeard
Fenrir's Dogs of War
Union 0f Revolution
7
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Posted - 2012.04.10 22:27:00 -
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You already have a Jovian ship/module, it's called your pod. And there are plenty of physically (albeit not culturally) Jovian characters, they're called capsuleers. We're the equivalent of the Jovian warrior caste if I'm remembering my fluff right, except in our case they just started with a race that still had its aggressive instincts instead of trying to restore them from scratch.
And, politically, Jovian tech is the backbone of all four empires and 0.0 space as well, so we're basically all in their empire.
(Honestly, running into an exploring Terran ascended energy being or something would be fairly entertaining. Maybe they've ascended to infectious engrams and are the reason the rogue drones are so oddball or something. I enjoy random bits of story like that.) |
Duvida
The Scope
Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2012.04.10 23:08:00 -
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I'd be all for a wormhole opening into Azeroth... we could have Deathwing's cousin threaten our new Dust 514 worlds ala the space dragon in MOO II. (press me, I'll work a reference to Defender in here somewhere as well. Smart bombs indeed.) |
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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
306
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Posted - 2012.04.10 23:21:00 -
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10th anniversary next year, maybe they have something big planned *creepy music*
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YuuKnow
The Long Kiss Goodnight
183
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Posted - 2012.04.10 23:43:00 -
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Gogela wrote:Anyone else want to see Jove ships?
No because they would either be overpowered or dissapointing. Nothing more.
There's enough intra-galatic depth and storyline that you don't need to introduce Terrans as well.
I vote to leave these alone.
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Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
377
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Posted - 2012.04.11 00:11:00 -
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YuuKnow wrote:Gogela wrote:Anyone else want to see Jove ships? No because they would either be overpowered or dissapointing. Nothing more. There's enough intra-galatic depth and storyline that you don't need to introduce Terrans as well. I vote to leave these alone. yk
Itd be cool if they brought in one big ship that attacked Jita
kinda like a world raid in WoW but I think itd be even funnier if the playerbase sat back and let it get destroyed
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=255722#post255722
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Kolya Medz
Kolya Inc.
67
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Posted - 2012.04.11 00:16:00 -
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Terran ship salvage should lead to tech level 4! Which should be even more specialized than tech II. Caldari ships without armor, amarr ships without shields. Would be a balancing nightmare tho lol |
Miss Whippy
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
182
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Posted - 2012.04.11 01:14:00 -
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I used to fly in Jove space, until I discovered Smirnoff.
UI Iteration isn't enough, we need to start from scratch |
Alexa Coates
The Scope
Gallente Federation
92
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Posted - 2012.04.11 01:57:00 -
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Miss Whippy wrote:I used to fly in Jove space, until I discovered Smirnoff.
what
Love my Gallente Federation Navy ships! |
Vran DalEsra
Vran DalEsra Corporation
3
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Posted - 2012.04.11 03:42:00 -
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Keep the Jove mysterious and unreachable. I prefer them that way. |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
243
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Posted - 2012.04.11 03:45:00 -
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after ten years i should be able to create a jove char
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voxile
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.04.11 04:51:00 -
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my main is almost 9 years old now. back in the day we were told that one day you could become Jove, but instead of learning skills you would lose them... or not... its been 9 years for Fing crap |
Nedes Betternaem
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
127
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Posted - 2012.04.11 04:53:00 -
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Alexa Coates wrote:Miss Whippy wrote:I used to fly in Jove space, until I discovered Smirnoff. what
She said that she used to fly in Smirnoff, until she discovered Jove space. |
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