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Lliandra
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Posted - 2004.07.16 23:22:00 -
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Ok, I've been playing around some with the new skill list XML document...
there's only one MAJOR problem with that new feature... you can only acces your own XML document, and then only after you sign in...
Now where's the logic in that?
I can understand they want some security so person A can't access the skillist of person B. But this totally screws up my plans for building an application so people can view their skills list on their mobile phone.
as I for one would think this a great application, I would like to ask the devs if there could be some way we could acces those Skill XML documents in a way that would make more sense.
Lliandra
aka. Ractoc
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Lliandra
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Posted - 2004.07.16 23:22:00 -
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Ok, I've been playing around some with the new skill list XML document...
there's only one MAJOR problem with that new feature... you can only acces your own XML document, and then only after you sign in...
Now where's the logic in that?
I can understand they want some security so person A can't access the skillist of person B. But this totally screws up my plans for building an application so people can view their skills list on their mobile phone.
as I for one would think this a great application, I would like to ask the devs if there could be some way we could acces those Skill XML documents in a way that would make more sense.
Lliandra
aka. Ractoc
Site Admin for EVE-Central |
Elissen
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Posted - 2004.07.16 23:59:00 -
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Can't you try to send the username and password of the person? I bet the server set's a cookie. Check out the forums on EVE-I for the character manager and skill monitor.
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Elissen
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Posted - 2004.07.16 23:59:00 -
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Can't you try to send the username and password of the person? I bet the server set's a cookie. Check out the forums on EVE-I for the character manager and skill monitor.
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t20
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Posted - 2004.07.17 00:08:00 -
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 Originally by: Lliandra
I can understand they want some security so person A can't access the skillist of person B. But this totally screws up my plans for building an application so people can view their skills list on their mobile phone.
 For exact that same reason, we decided not to make the characterSheet available for only and solely the user. Exactly the same as people commenting out their "shipsetup" on some screenshots involving large battles, might think enabling the charactersheet for everyone, is not the way to go.
 An option could be, in the "forumsettings" to (just like your corporation and race) to set your charactersheet "public". Default this would be Off. it's an easy flip ... just let me know what you think of it ... all of you 
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t20
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Posted - 2004.07.17 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lliandra
I can understand they want some security so person A can't access the skillist of person B. But this totally screws up my plans for building an application so people can view their skills list on their mobile phone.
For exact that same reason, we decided not to make the characterSheet available for only and solely the user. Exactly the same as people commenting out their "shipsetup" on some screenshots involving large battles, might think enabling the charactersheet for everyone, is not the way to go.
An option could be, in the "forumsettings" to (just like your corporation and race) to set your charactersheet "public". Default this would be Off. it's an easy flip ... just let me know what you think of it ... all of you
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Ichabod Dirange
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Posted - 2004.07.17 00:12:00 -
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Cell phones fry your sperm.
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Ichabod Dirange
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Posted - 2004.07.17 00:12:00 -
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Cell phones fry your sperm.
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Alexis Machine
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Posted - 2004.07.17 00:15:00 -
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Edited by: Alexis Machine on 17/07/2004 00:16:57
As long as you maintain the option to turn the "feature" off I say go for it.
Oh yeah, Nice work Lliandra.
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Alexis Machine
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Posted - 2004.07.17 00:15:00 -
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Edited by: Alexis Machine on 17/07/2004 00:16:57
As long as you maintain the option to turn the "feature" off I say go for it.
Oh yeah, Nice work Lliandra.
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if you don't wake up, i'll have to stop kissing you. all that flailing has made you sleepy. you rest while i untie you. stay here until they find you. My hand made mannequin. i won't let them get you. they'll know you're mine by the fingerprints on your throat. isn't she lovely? isn't she wonderful? like the *****s that we are, swatting flies from the wounds we design. |
Hellek
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Posted - 2004.07.17 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ichabod Dirange
Cell phones fry your sperm.
Nerfs wherever you look, in eve its TomB nerfing ships, in RL its my mobile nerfing my sperms
But well, back to topic: Nice app!
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Hellek
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Posted - 2004.07.17 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ichabod Dirange
Cell phones fry your sperm.
Nerfs wherever you look, in eve its TomB nerfing ships, in RL its my mobile nerfing my sperms
But well, back to topic: Nice app!
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Lliandra
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Posted - 2004.07.17 05:48:00 -
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Edited by: Lliandra on 17/07/2004 06:13:21
Quote:
An option could be, in the "forumsettings" to (just like your corporation and race) to set your charactersheet "public". Default this would be Off. it's an easy flip ... just let me know what you think of it ... all of you
Hhmmzz.. if this option would be put in place, my phone skills app would be a definate posibility. All that would be needed would be one extra screen explaining people what they need to do to make it work.
Well, you got my vote on putting in that option, mainly because requesting the skill list would still be done via the character ID which is a very BIG number, so hard to guess someones ID off hand anyways.
in case of a "public"character sheet however, I would like to see the actual data which connects the character sheet to the character (mostly the character name) is removed. Since you are the one actually requesting the sheet, you should know who it belongs to before requesting it. This would take out the brute force attaks people could setup to gain a list of character sheet from other people.
Lliandra
aka. Ractoc
Site Admin for EVE-Central |
Lliandra
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Posted - 2004.07.17 05:48:00 -
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Edited by: Lliandra on 17/07/2004 06:13:21
Quote:
An option could be, in the "forumsettings" to (just like your corporation and race) to set your charactersheet "public". Default this would be Off. it's an easy flip ... just let me know what you think of it ... all of you
Hhmmzz.. if this option would be put in place, my phone skills app would be a definate posibility. All that would be needed would be one extra screen explaining people what they need to do to make it work.
Well, you got my vote on putting in that option, mainly because requesting the skill list would still be done via the character ID which is a very BIG number, so hard to guess someones ID off hand anyways.
in case of a "public"character sheet however, I would like to see the actual data which connects the character sheet to the character (mostly the character name) is removed. Since you are the one actually requesting the sheet, you should know who it belongs to before requesting it. This would take out the brute force attaks people could setup to gain a list of character sheet from other people.
Lliandra
aka. Ractoc
Site Admin for EVE-Central |
tratten
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Posted - 2004.07.17 07:04:00 -
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Originally by: Lliandra
Well, you got my vote on putting in that option, mainly because requesting the skill list would still be done via the character ID which is a very BIG number, so hard to guess someones ID off hand anyways.
No need for guessing.
Search character ingame -> Capture portrait -> CharacterID.bmp in your capture\Portraits-folder
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tratten
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Posted - 2004.07.17 07:04:00 -
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Originally by: Lliandra
Well, you got my vote on putting in that option, mainly because requesting the skill list would still be done via the character ID which is a very BIG number, so hard to guess someones ID off hand anyways.
No need for guessing.
Search character ingame -> Capture portrait -> CharacterID.bmp in your capture\Portraits-folder
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2004.07.17 07:55:00 -
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It easier that that, just move the mouse over the piccy to the left of each post and you see the character ID for picture generation.
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2004.07.17 07:55:00 -
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It easier that that, just move the mouse over the piccy to the left of each post and you see the character ID for picture generation.
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Intergalactic Teeth Pullers
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
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Don Carn'age
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Posted - 2004.07.17 08:28:00 -
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Sony Ericsson P900/P800 works without any s.w needed, comes preloaded with opera.
Allows me to post, receive mail, check char skills. Even restart my TS server with Putty.
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Don Carn'age
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Posted - 2004.07.17 08:28:00 -
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Sony Ericsson P900/P800 works without any s.w needed, comes preloaded with opera.
Allows me to post, receive mail, check char skills. Even restart my TS server with Putty.
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(O.o)
(> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination. |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.17 08:29:00 -
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Hi.
The problem with making the XML sheet public is that it also reveals your alt character names.
I don't mind sharing my skills but some people may find shgring their alts a bit too much
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.17 08:29:00 -
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Hi.
The problem with making the XML sheet public is that it also reveals your alt character names.
I don't mind sharing my skills but some people may find shgring their alts a bit too much
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Lliandra
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Posted - 2004.07.17 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Hi.
The problem with making the XML sheet public is that it also reveals your alt character names.
I don't mind sharing my skills but some people may find shgring their alts a bit too much
That should be easy to fix, just restrict the XML to the char belonging to the ID provided. Which seems only logical to me, since that's the character you requsted the info of...
Lliandra
aka. Ractoc
Site Admin for EVE-Central |
Lliandra
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Posted - 2004.07.17 08:56:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Hi.
The problem with making the XML sheet public is that it also reveals your alt character names.
I don't mind sharing my skills but some people may find shgring their alts a bit too much
That should be easy to fix, just restrict the XML to the char belonging to the ID provided. Which seems only logical to me, since that's the character you requsted the info of...
Lliandra
aka. Ractoc
Site Admin for EVE-Central |
Del Narveux
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Posted - 2004.07.17 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: t20
An option could be, in the "forumsettings" to (just like your corporation and race) to set your charactersheet "public". Default this would be Off. it's an easy flip ... just let me know what you think of it ... all of you
The ability to see other characters' skills would be really nice, especially for planning events. A problem I see with a lot of the competitive events is it usually comes down to whoever has the most skills wins, and the newer players are a bit screwed as they just cant fly fast enough, or do enough damage, to beat a longtime veteran. Of course, an obvious solution is to create divisions based on what skills you have, but if you cant see what the participants skills are, you cant really regulate the event properly.
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Del Narveux
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Posted - 2004.07.17 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: t20
An option could be, in the "forumsettings" to (just like your corporation and race) to set your charactersheet "public". Default this would be Off. it's an easy flip ... just let me know what you think of it ... all of you
The ability to see other characters' skills would be really nice, especially for planning events. A problem I see with a lot of the competitive events is it usually comes down to whoever has the most skills wins, and the newer players are a bit screwed as they just cant fly fast enough, or do enough damage, to beat a longtime veteran. Of course, an obvious solution is to create divisions based on what skills you have, but if you cant see what the participants skills are, you cant really regulate the event properly.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.07.17 11:16:00 -
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Works on Nokia 3100
Good work!
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.07.17 11:16:00 -
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Works on Nokia 3100
Good work!
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Lliandra
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Posted - 2004.07.17 19:27:00 -
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I guess we'll just have towait and see if they actually do put it the ability to make your skill list public.
Lliandra
aka. Ractoc
Site Admin for EVE-Central |
Lliandra
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Posted - 2004.07.17 19:27:00 -
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I guess we'll just have towait and see if they actually do put it the ability to make your skill list public.
Lliandra
aka. Ractoc
Site Admin for EVE-Central |
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