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Eran Laude Gallente The Aduro Protocol Doctrine.	Posted - 2008.12.11 14:46:00 - [1] Edited by: Eran Laude on 11/12/2008 14:53:25 Edited by: Eran Laude on 11/12/2008 14:46:23 So I took my first driving test [UK] today. Was doing perfectly fine all the way through. 45-minutes of virtually flawless driving, everything done exactly as the DSA wanted it to be done, even the grumpy examiner was lightening up. As I entered the test centre car park to finish my test and do my final maneouvre - reverse bay parking - a dozy cow enters the car park doing an illegal maneouvre [technically should have waited, and since she was doing her test too I hope she failed], right in the corner of my right blind spot, so I continue doing the park and she edges forwards twice [apparently, since I was too busy focusing on getting my car in the right position]. I line up the car perfectly into the bay. Confident of victory I tap my thumbs on the wheel for a few seconds while the examiner totes up the marks . . . And my jaw hits the floor to learn that "I'm sorry to inform you, but on this occasion you did not pass your driving test . . . yaddayaddayadda." I ask him the reason and he says I should've stopped to let the girl past, despite there being no room at all for her to move around in the car park while I do the maneouvre. So that's half a years work and ú50 test fee wasted then by some stupid chick who can't drive and a blind examiner? /RAAAAAAAGEEEE!!!!! Now I've gotta shell out for another ú100 in lessons and can't take my test til mid January. Thanks, love . . .
Brea Lafail	Posted - 2008.12.11 15:08:00 - [2] 100 pounds for MANDATORY lessons? 50 pounds for the test? Fail you for one litte right-of-way error? Jeeze... Think it was something like $60 CDN to do my test, no classes required. 'course the registries are privately owned, so some fail you just so you have to pay again, some pass you without even going for a drive if you give them a couple extra bucks.
Reven Cordelle Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.12.11 15:31:00 - [3] It's great huh! Took me 3 goes. Two **ty examiners the first time just picking at stupid things... 3rd time, I get an awesome dude that realises I CAN drive and that other people **ed it up for me. I was thinking all the time on my 3rd attempt that I'd failed again thanks to some douche pulling out on me. Still, I passed in the end, keep at it. Cost me about ú1,200 to get it done overall. Though I did the learning in 5 months, usually about 4 hours of driving a week. Naturally, I then proceeded to buy a left hand drive car as my first car. :3
Vak'ran	Posted - 2008.12.11 15:46:00 - [4] Originally by: Reven Cordelle Naturally, I then proceeded to buy a left hand drive car as my first car. :3 This is a normal car, if different from your lesson car you are either from some large island of misguidedness or you can file a complaint. ----- Vak'Ran is your local official non-dedicated part-time advocate of reading comprehension and proliferation of intelligence on the EVE Online Forums.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2008.12.11 15:51:00 - [5] Edited by: Blane Xero on 11/12/2008 15:50:53 Originally by: Vak'ran Originally by: Reven Cordelle Naturally, I then proceeded to buy a left hand drive car as my first car. :3 This is a normal car, if different from your lesson car you are either from some large island of misguidedness or you can file a complaint. We in the UK have the driver side on the right side of the car, we also drive on the right side of the road. Americans do it all on the left i believe. ______________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Vak'ran	Posted - 2008.12.11 15:56:00 - [6] Originally by: Blane Xero Edited by: Blane Xero on 11/12/2008 15:50:53 Originally by: Vak'ran Originally by: Reven Cordelle Naturally, I then proceeded to buy a left hand drive car as my first car. :3 This is a normal car, if different from your lesson car you are either from some large island of misguidedness or you can file a complaint. We in the UK have the driver side on the right side of the car, we also drive on the right side of the road. Americans do it all on the left i believe. ... astounding ----- Vak'Ran is your local official non-dedicated part-time advocate of reading comprehension and proliferation of intelligence on the EVE Online Forums.
Reven Cordelle Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.12.11 15:58:00 - [7] Originally by: Blane Xero We in the UK have the driver side on the right side of the car, we also drive on the right side of the road. Americans do it all on the left i believe. Hence the controversy of learning to drive in a RHD Car, on RHD Roads, and then buying a LHD Car as your first car.
Shirley Serious Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.12.11 17:04:00 - [8] Here in the UK, we drive on the right side of the road, i.e. the left. In other countries, they drive on the wrong side of the road, i.e. the right. It's easy to remember. Left is right and right is wrong. Yes. Yes, I am.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.12.12 00:44:00 - [9] US is right side of the road, left side vehicle (unless your a mailman). The only downside I've ever seen to this is if you have to park in the street which has resulted in lost doors or having to step into traffic to get around your vehicle and onto the sidewalk. On topic that really sucks for your driving exams though, but from everything I hear about you guys are really, really strict about the license thing and while I like my system I do feel we could tighten it up a bit. I got my license as soon as I turned 18. After several years of my mother 'screwing up' (read:control) on my drivers ed applications I dropped out of driver ed on my birthday, grabbed my friends 77 mercury station wagon, and passed the test with flying colors even though the cars backup lights failed to work. Of course I lost it a couple years later due to a serious bout of road rage but I've been clean for several years now. I also know that both sides of the pond of different restrictions. We generally go by weight instead of vehicle type. So with my standard class D I can drive any vehicle up to 24,000 lbs and that incudes trucks with trailers. With the STAR certification I can drive motorcycles (this is still fairly new in the grand scheme of driving). Class C I believe are school buses and motorhomes, Class B are Smaller Diesels and Class A is pretty much anything on the road (although you still need endorsements for multiple trailers, livestock, hazardous, etc)
The TX Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities	Posted - 2008.12.12 00:56:00 - [10] Say what you want about driving examiners - but they are passing/failing people in a country with damn good road safety standards - so they're doing their bit too. Not saying anything you did was dodgy - it wasn't by the sound of it. However, I'm assuming you're a reasonably young male learner driver? I have a strong theory that if there is ANYTHING at all that can be picked out as a fail, DSA are secretly told to fail young learner drivers the first time - thinking back at my test, if I passed first time, I would have been really **y and immediately gone out thinking I was a brilliant driver, and would probably have had a few serious knocks. By failing once, I feel that I calmed down and respected driving a bit more than I would otherwise have done. - - - Originally by:** Slade Trillgon Holy wall of text TX-Man.
Davina Braben	Posted - 2008.12.12 01:34:00 - [11] Pal, the first time I took my test I pulled out of the carpark on the wrong side of the road (thought it was a one way for some reason). The rest of it was not perfect, but damn near a pass. I feel your pain
Atama Cardel Perkone	Posted - 2008.12.12 01:45:00 - [12] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Class C I believe are school buses and motorhomes, I don't think that's the case, because I just got my Class C a few months ago and I'm fairly certain that it only certifies me to drive cars and trucks.
The TX Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities	Posted - 2008.12.12 02:01:00 - [13] Edited by: The TX on 12/12/2008 02:02:33 Originally by: Atama Cardel Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Class C I believe are school buses and motorhomes, I don't think that's the case, because I just got my Class C a few months ago and I'm fairly certain that it only certifies me to drive cars and trucks. In UK: A = Motorbikes B = Cars C = Lorries/GoodsVehicles/Trucks (whatever) D = Buses/Coaches BE is cars and trailers, because if you exceed certain weights/dimensions with a trailer, you have to have the 'E' bit, which nowadays is a further driving test. CE is Goods Vehicles over 7.5T with trailers, ie, the big articulated lorries on our motorways. DE, buses/coaches with trailers. Edit: See here, on the back of my licence ;-D - - - Originally by: Slade Trillgon Holy wall of text TX-Man.
Xen Gin Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion	Posted - 2008.12.12 02:46:00 - [14] Edited by: Xen Gin on 12/12/2008 02:47:52 Edited by: Xen Gin on 12/12/2008 02:46:51 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich US is right side of the road, left side vehicle (unless your a mailman). The only downside I've ever seen to this is if you have to park in the street which has resulted in lost doors or having to step into traffic to get around your vehicle and onto the sidewalk. I believe the reason we drive on the right(car) and on the left (road) is because the majority of people are right handed, so it is easier to draw a sword and swing left to right without hitting an obstacle (doesn't include the person attacking/defending) while riding a horse. Also it's not just one Island
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.12.12 03:06:00 - [15] Originally by: Atama Cardel Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Class C I believe are school buses and motorhomes, I don't think that's the case, because I just got my Class C a few months ago and I'm fairly certain that it only certifies me to drive cars and trucks. Closest I could find was this: Quote: Class C: Commercial vehicle that doesn't fit classes A or B, but is placarded for hazardous materials or is intended to carry 14 passengers or more
JordanParey Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.12.12 04:12:00 - [16] Originally by: Xen Gin Also it's not just one Island PEER PRESSURE! DRIVE ON THE RIGHT SIDE, YOU KNOW YOU WANNA!
Atomos Darksun Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.12 05:48:00 - [17] Originally by: Xen Gin Also it's not just one Island Notice how many of the lefties are/were influenced by britain at some point? Yeah, good job screwing them up you UK'ers... Then again, I'm from America... Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... CONVERT TO LINKIFICATION! http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameb
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.12 07:09:00 - [18] I suggest you read Pyramids by Terry Pratchett. You'll really like it. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
Daelorn Perkone	Posted - 2008.12.12 07:38:00 - [19] I wish we in the US made it MUCH tougher to get a license. 45 minutes of driving? Mine took less than 5 minutes. My cop even made me pull over so he could throw his trash into the woods then looked over at me with a serious look and said "Remember only throw biodegradable stuff into the woods!". Then he turned up the radio and started singing. Awesome guy but seriously its way too easy to get a license.
Dong Ninja	Posted - 2008.12.12 08:02:00 - [20] I'm telling you, I didn't learn my driving from the DPS but from kart racing. Really, all I did was do the prep with my dad, walk into the DPS office, take the test (on which I randomly guessed on most of the questions) and walked out with my temporary license; took all of 10 minutes.
KingsGambit Caldari Knights	Posted - 2008.12.12 08:51:00 - [21] I know you have to wair a time before a re-test, but didn't know you had to take more lessons. Sounds like a really rubbish way to fail after the stirling drive. What manouvers did you get? I remember having to do 3-point turn and reverse park...was so close to the kerb, I remember thinking if I try to get it in one, I'm gonna hit it. So I went forward-back once more to get it straight and thankfully it was the right call. I passed 1st time, with 7 minors (2 in speeding ). My sister passed 1st time with only 5 minors and believe it or not, I have actually seen a pass sheet with nothing but the examiner's signature on it. It does suck a bit about the fail right at the end, but you're obviously up to the standard. Hopefully next time you'll rinse it and it'll be that much sweeter. Good luck! -------------
Liberator 1 Gallente Remnants of the Flame	Posted - 2008.12.12 08:56:00 - [22] I drove round Texas (I'm from the UK) and on the freeway, you can overtake in any lane you want. Traffic chaos! ------------------------------------------- ôIf you are in a spaceship that is traveling at the speed of light, and you turn on the headlights, does anything happen?ö -------------------------
Reven Cordelle Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.12.12 09:45:00 - [23] Originally by: The TX Edit: See here, on the back of my licence ;-D TX Man, you can drive everything but what the hell do you drive as a personal car? If its a compact I will LOL so loud even the gods will hear it. And yes, It'll be a LOL. Not a SIL.
Kodiak31415 The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency The Covenant Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.12 10:17:00 - [24] I seriously wish they would make the test like that in the U.S. Also make people re-take the test every 3 years or so. Would hopefully keep most of the idiots off the road. Would also prevent the "I'm so old that I can't read the speedometer so I'll compensate by driving 15 miles an hour slower than everyone else and I'll save electricy by not using the turn signal" crowd. _______________________________ Pleese exucse any seplling erorr's in tihs psot
Calvin Firenze Minmatar Malum Crusis IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.12.12 11:07:00 - [25] I grew up in the country, so I couldn't parallel park. (poor excuse I know) I took my test at 16 and I was completely lost when the instructor told me to parallel park. After about 5 minutes of me looking at this stupidly, he says **** it man, head back to the DMV. Strangely, I passed on the first go. I can parallel park now, its not a problem. 8 years since and no accidents or tickets...yet. /me knocks on wood.
annoing Fallen Angel's	Posted - 2008.12.12 19:49:00 - [26] A few things come to mind: I'm married to a driving instructor, shes damn good too. Shes got a 67% pass rate atm and thats GOOD. We've had students come down from as far as Manchester (to Essex) to have my wife as an instructor to get them past their test. 1 guy (an Iranian student) came back from holiday in Iran especially to do a 5 day Intensive Course. I trained to be a driving examiner. To get through the initial test I had to do the full driving exam taking all manouvers, not the '3' usually taken in an ordinary test. The driving test lasted in excess of 90 mins which had to be perfect. No minor errors allowed at all. You have to do the theory test of 75 questions and allowed only 1 wrong. In the 'hazard perception' test you are allowed no mistakes at all. Just 1 is an automatic failure. Today I got someone doing their test drive across me at a junction (they turned right past oncoming traffic). As they turned into the road, the examiner made them park just up from the junction, got out of the car and walked off. How do I know that? The examiner phoned me and told me thats why (yeah I know him, he recognised my car) Most test centers in the Uk have about a 40% pass rate. Less so in cities. Its one of the hardest jobs you can imagine .. why? Well, I know for a fact that, to get past their tests, students try to: Bribe, threaten, offer sexual favours, get violent, use emotional blackmail and so forth. Ive had friends who have been threatened with the accusation of **** by students unless they passed them. Examiners accused of racism because they failed a student. I know of parents who have waited at test centers to attack examiners who didnt pass their dearest children. One examiner was followed home and his house/car was vandalised and his children attacked by 1 Nigerian who felt his failed test was a personal insult. Being an examiner is a very stressful job and the financial reward isnt that high (base rate is 21K) and they have to do ALOT of overtime. I only wanted to be an examiner because after 1 year as a regular examiner you can cross train to be a motorcycle examiner. As a rabid, hairy, leather wearing, back patch toting biker I cant think of a better job to do. Unfortunately, I failed my final exam (after a 4 week intensive course). Do I have an excuse about failing? Nope, I did it wrong full stop. Would I do it again? Damn right I would. Anyone else out there who is over 21, has a clean driving license held for 3 years or more can apply. They usually advertise on the DVLA website in January or June. See you at the test center maybe
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.12.12 20:11:00 - [27] I failed first time. Passed the second. What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
Cmdr Sy Appetite 4 Destruction The Firm.	Posted - 2008.12.12 20:28:00 - [28] Edited by: Cmdr Sy on 12/12/2008 20:31:42 I passed 1st time, 7 minors. I did screw something up and thought I would probably be told I failed, but I kept my cool and at the end it turned out the examiner had not noticed. Woot. Props to my crazy Jamaican driving instructor. After the stress of his lessons, I could have driven that car into Osama bin Laden's secret cave complex and back without losing a drop of sweat.
Straight Chillen Gallente Solar Wind	Posted - 2008.12.12 21:38:00 - [29] Come to new jeresy and get your liscense, they will give them to anyone here. Cant read english, Cant see over the dash, cant maintain speed, cant negotiate a turn, its no problem! Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Roymundo	Posted - 2008.12.13 05:47:00 - [30] Originally by: Reven Cordelle It's great huh! Took me 3 goes. Still, I passed in the end, keep at it. Cost me about ú1,200 to get it done overall. Though I did the learning in 5 months, usually about 4 hours of driving a week. aha hahaha HAHAHAHAHA i passed first time round getting my dad to teach me!
The TX Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities	Posted - 2008.12.13 11:33:00 - [31] Originally by: Reven Cordelle Originally by: The TX Edit: See here, on the back of my licence ;-D TX Man, you can drive everything but what the hell do you drive as a personal car? If its a compact I will LOL so loud even the gods will hear it. And yes, It'll be a LOL. Not a SIL. The MONSTER: Say what you like about the ugliness of the Fiat Multipla (although the newer ones are less ugly, as they don't have 'the bump' on the front), but it's a very nice car. It's really tall - good for people my height, good for ferrying old people around in as they don't have to get up/down - they just slide sideways onto the seats :-) It's got 6 seats, 3 front, 3 back. The back three seats come uot completely, leaving the back half of the vehicle looking like the back half of a transit van - a big empty box, which is very practical. It's an awesome car. Looks so much better on the inside than on the outside. :-) - - - Originally by: Slade Trillgon Holy wall of text TX-Man.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Ninjas N Pirates Wong Thong Crew	Posted - 2008.12.13 11:40:00 - [32] That has to be the ugliest car I've ever seen
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.12.13 13:47:00 - [33] I failed once, cause I did something stupid Wyvern & Chimera fitting flowchart
Shirley Serious Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.12.13 13:49:00 - [34] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny That has to be the ugliest car I've ever seen I believe the Fiat Multipla has won many "Ugliest Car Ever" awards. Yes. Yes, I am.
Leilani Solaris Gallente Atomic Battle Penguins The Darwin Award Foundation	Posted - 2008.12.13 14:19:00 - [35] Passed my theory and practical first time, got 3 minors for mirrors on my test, the rest was flawless.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.12.13 15:03:00 - [36] The theory part amazed me most..it was taken a classroom at a time, about 30 people, and a few guys were bragging about how they were there for the third time..idiots. Wyvern & Chimera fitting flowchart
Vega Alioth Caldari	Posted - 2008.12.13 20:30:00 - [37] ahh i failed first time with a healthy 3 majors and a tonne of minors - best major was an attempt to overtake a cyclist up a hill and round a corner - was in way too high a gear that i ended up slowing to a stop on the other side of the road next to the cyclist - slammed it into first and jerked the car forward causing my examiners papers to all go flying with a loud grunt from him. - still thought i might of passed as well. good luck with your next test - people who fail the first time are statistically better anyway (ive decided)
Grimpak Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.13 20:36:00 - [38] Originally by: Shirley Serious Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny That has to be the ugliest car I've ever seen I believe the Fiat Multipla has won many "Ugliest Car Ever" awards. amazingly, many people say that the ugliness of the car is the only drawback of it. it has nice space, it's comfortable, and on the mechanic side, it behaves nicely. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Aegis Auroras	Posted - 2008.12.14 10:42:00 - [39] Never had an formal driving lessons, or even anyone sitting in passenger seat telling me what to do or not to do. My high school joyrides were enough tbfh. I passed my texas driver's exam first time, im my friends old suburban. The instructor leaned in the window and told me to drive around the block. Apparently that was it, because i honestly drove around the DMV once and she flagged me down and asked me to park it. ...went out and bought a RWD v8 car as my first car that same day!
Elite Marksman	Posted - 2008.12.14 18:43:00 - [40] Originally by: Straight Chillen Come to new jeresy and get your liscense, they will give them to anyone here. Cant read english, Cant see over the dash, cant maintain speed, cant negotiate a turn, its no problem! Tell that to two people I know. Twins, actually. Both failed the written test (need an 80%) 6 times each, and both failed the driving test 3 times each. I passed the written with a 94% and passed the driving test the first time.
TU144 TEPPOPNCT'CMEPTHNK Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.12.14 20:26:00 - [41] but did you get put and give the Silly B#####h a good dressing down for causing the both of you to fail your tests. if it had been me i would have raised merry hell about it... (BTW... i passed first time (but it was 22 years ago;)) CCP made little baby jesus cry by nerfing ghost training
Syrus666 Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.12.14 22:58:00 - [42] That's seriously unlucky... I passed first time, god knows how - I managed to stall in the middle of a cross roads blocking everything and didnt secure the car correctly. Then ****ed upon a dual carriage way, when a car pulled over and I had to force my way into the other lane, but i didnt try n get over till i was at a stop behind the now parked car. But, luckily, chatting with the examiner it turned out his kid was just starting the college I'd left that year, so I started to use my 'gift of the gab' during the test and had a laugh with him about it - it's sooo the only reason he passed me.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2008.12.14 23:16:00 - [43] Edited by: ReaperOfSly on 14/12/2008 23:16:00 I passed first time. And I'm a terrible driver (mostly through lack of practise, but still bad). Can't park to save my life. You may have had right of way in that situation, but you have to realise that right of way means very little in a driving test. Or any situation really. The examiner is looking to see if you're safe to drive, and sticking rigidly to the rules does not make you a safe driver. If someone is faffing around on the road, you damn well let them sort themselves out and give them a wide berth. One of the worst things it is possible to have engraved on your tombstone is "He died defending his right of way". ____________________
Hellraiza666 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.12.14 23:31:00 - [44] Originally by: Eran Laude Edited by: Eran Laude on 11/12/2008 14:53:25 Edited by: Eran Laude on 11/12/2008 14:46:23 So I took my first driving test [UK] today. Was doing perfectly fine all the way through. 45-minutes of virtually flawless driving, everything done exactly as the DSA wanted it to be done, even the grumpy examiner was lightening up. As I entered the test centre car park to finish my test and do my final maneouvre - reverse bay parking - a dozy cow enters the car park doing an illegal maneouvre [technically should have waited, and since she was doing her test too I hope she failed], right in the corner of my right blind spot, so I continue doing the park and she edges forwards twice [apparently, since I was too busy focusing on getting my car in the right position]. I line up the car perfectly into the bay. Confident of victory I tap my thumbs on the wheel for a few seconds while the examiner totes up the marks . . . And my jaw hits the floor to learn that "I'm sorry to inform you, but on this occasion you did not pass your driving test . . . yaddayaddayadda." I ask him the reason and he says I should've stopped to let the girl past, despite there being no room at all for her to move around in the car park while I do the maneouvre. So that's half a years work and ú50 test fee wasted then by some stupid chick who can't drive and a blind examiner? /RAAAAAAAGEEEE!!!!! Now I've gotta shell out for another ú100 in lessons and can't take my test til mid January. Thanks, love . . . literally exactly the same reason i failed my first test!!!!!!! except it was a guy who pulled on car park, not a girl.
Verone Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.12.15 01:21:00 - [45] Originally by: Hellraiza666 literally exactly the same reason i failed my first test!!!!!!! except it was a guy who pulled on car park, not a girl. RAWRAWR AWRAWR AWRAWR RAWRAWRAW AWRAWRAWRAR AWRRWARRAWR!!!11 \o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/ >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Trinity Council.	Posted - 2008.12.15 02:15:00 - [46] Originally by: Eran Laude Edited by: Eran Laude on 11/12/2008 14:53:25 Edited by: Eran Laude on 11/12/2008 14:46:23 So I took my first driving test [UK] today. Was doing perfectly fine all the way through. 45-minutes of virtually flawless driving, everything done exactly as the DSA wanted it to be done, even the grumpy examiner was lightening up. As I entered the test centre car park to finish my test and do my final maneouvre - reverse bay parking - a dozy cow enters the car park doing an illegal maneouvre [technically should have waited, and since she was doing her test too I hope she failed], right in the corner of my right blind spot, so I continue doing the park and she edges forwards twice [apparently, since I was too busy focusing on getting my car in the right position]. I line up the car perfectly into the bay. Confident of victory I tap my thumbs on the wheel for a few seconds while the examiner totes up the marks . . . And my jaw hits the floor to learn that "I'm sorry to inform you, but on this occasion you did not pass your driving test . . . yaddayaddayadda." I ask him the reason and he says I should've stopped to let the girl past, despite there being no room at all for her to move around in the car park while I do the maneouvre. So that's half a years work and ú50 test fee wasted then by some stupid chick who can't drive and a blind examiner? /RAAAAAAAGEEEE!!!!! Now I've gotta shell out for another ú100 in lessons and can't take my test til mid January. Thanks, love . . . man, its rough in the UK, when i got my liscense when i was 16 (America FTW) here in nevada the prices were, iirc (its been 6 years) Driving Permit: $10 Drive Test: like $15 or $20 i believe the good part was, you only had to pay the fee if you PASSED, if you didnt pass, didnt have to pay also, here in nevada (and the entire US i believe) you take your drive test in your own car (or your parents car, whatever) we never had "test cars" if you fail the drive test, you just keep your permit until you have to take it again i failed my first drive test by making an illegal left hand turn (i did everything else right, but the DMV was near an area under heavy construction, like no lines to seperate lanes) anyway, i made a left hand turn in from the fast lane took the test again a few weeks later, came to the DMV and took a standby made the exact same f'ing mistake, left hand turn from the fast lane HOWEVER, this drive test instructor was pretty cool, we came back to the DMV and i took the parrallel parking, got within like 6 inches after we went in, my mom asked how bad i messed up, and the instructor said i did good, except i made the illegal left hand turn, but apparently that instructor "likes to look at the whole exam", and since i did pretty much perfect on everything else, he let me pass have only had one ticket and one accident since then (accident WAS my fault, but it was just a a small crack in the other driver's bumper on his already junky car, if anything, i made the back look the same as the front and evened it out a little. . . . . the ticket was a red light ticket because i pushed a yellow light and it turned red while i was in the intersection those damn sneaky motorcycle cops. . . Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 "*Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer*"
Myrhial Arkenath Ghost Festival	Posted - 2008.12.15 08:32:00 - [47] Am in the process of obtaining my driving license as well. It took me 3 tries to get my theory certificate, because of performance anxiety. Took pills to counter this the third time which seemed to help a bit. Now I have failed two tries at the actual driving exam. The first time because I was driving past a school and kids on their bikes were making a sport out of it to exit the schoolyard and slip in front of the car in one smooth go. Trying my best not to drive over them I noticed too late I was about to drive into a street I was not allowed to enter. So yeah, my own fault I guess. Second time was entering the highway and the cars in front of me were going very slowly. Nobody on the highway seemed to care to leave a little room for me either. Not wanting to squeeze myself between them at low speed I had to wait till the last moment to do this. So at the end I get told that appearantly I should have slowed down, create distance between the cars in front of me, and then pull up so I could enter the highway at full speed. Would have been nice if they had told me about this during driving lessons >_> My problem with the driving exam isn't so much performance anxiety but the fact these situations never pop up during the lessons and improvising was never my forte. My current teacher however keeps complaining about small details which means I have stopped listening to him and stubbornly do things my way, which ain't helping either. Asked for a new teacher this time around for my own sanity and his and I hope it will help. I understand why it is important to correct the mistakes that others make but it does indeed seem like they need to earn enough money off you before they let you pass Diary of a pod pilot
Reven Cordelle Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.12.15 08:47:00 - [48] Originally by: The TX It's an awesome car. Looks so much better on the inside than on the outside. :-) Yeah thats great, but that leaves the rest of us vomiting out of the window. Good god, man. To be honest... I expected a Honda Accord or something. Practicality indeed, nothing warrants spending MONEY on one of those things. It just further perpetuates my hatred of FIAT. There are so many other MPVs that would fit the bill without looking like a heel-stepped toad. DAMN YOU.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.12.15 15:28:00 - [49] Originally by: Reven Cordelle Originally by: The TX It's an awesome car. Looks so much better on the inside than on the outside. :-) Yeah thats great, but that leaves the rest of us vomiting out of the window. Good god, man. To be honest... I expected a Honda Accord or something. Practicality indeed, nothing warrants spending MONEY on one of those things. It just further perpetuates my hatred of FIAT. There are so many other MPVs that would fit the bill without looking like a heel-stepped toad. DAMN YOU. In true honesty, I thought he just took the bus since he probably knows those routes better than anyone in the world.
Valan The Fated	Posted - 2008.12.15 15:36:00 - [50] I made a similar mistake on my test but I got away with it. I was reverse parrallel parking when a car came flying around the corner. There was nowhere to go as there were cars on both sides of the road. I executed the maneuver really quick because the car bumper coming towards me was nearly touching the floor and his face was almost stuck to the window trying to stop. The examiner suggested I should've stopped. I pointed out that there was nowhere for the guy to go and he would've hit us. So I got away with it. /start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game four years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig
Sean Faust Gallente Point of No Return Eradication Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.15 16:03:00 - [51] Here in the US theres no driving classes required (though there probably should be). Instead the classes are optional but you get a discount on your insurance (which can be ridiculously expensive for a new driver) for taking it. I took mine in September of 2000 on the same day as my sister. I'll never forget, she was ****ed because I passed flawlessly while she failed horribly. It was priceless. She ran over the parking cones trying to pull her car into a parking space (the very first thing they have you do).
Eran Laude Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.12.15 16:16:00 - [52] Originally by: KingsGambit I know you have to wair a time before a re-test, but didn't know you had to take more lessons. Sounds like a really rubbish way to fail after the stirling drive. What manouvers did you get? I remember having to do 3-point turn and reverse park...was so close to the kerb, I remember thinking if I try to get it in one, I'm gonna hit it. So I went forward-back once more to get it straight and thankfully it was the right call. I passed 1st time, with 7 minors (2 in speeding ). My sister passed 1st time with only 5 minors and believe it or not, I have actually seen a pass sheet with nothing but the examiner's signature on it. It does suck a bit about the fail right at the end, but you're obviously up to the standard. Hopefully next time you'll rinse it and it'll be that much sweeter. Good luck! I got two left-reverses [guy I had was a nutter!], emergency stop [great fun!] and that reverse park at the end. I don't have to book extra lessons, but the closest I can get a re-test is in mid January due to the Xmas break, and since I'm not insured on any of our family cars I need at least a bit of practice between now and then, or I will get rusty [perhaps it didn't help that I had flu for a fortnight before my test and had to rush in a lot of lessons in the four days up to it].
P'uck	Posted - 2008.12.15 16:48:00 - [53] Edited by: P''uck on 15/12/2008 16:48:03 Originally by: Shirley Serious Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny That has to be the ugliest car I've ever seen I believe the Fiat Multipla has won many "Ugliest Car Ever" awards. Just have to chime in on this... because... Whenever I see a Fiat Multipla I have to think of a fat womans foot in a shoe thats a number or two too small. You know what I mean? When the fat gets compressed and kind of "pours out" on top of the shoe? You did see that quite a bit in "Married with children". And that's exactly how the original Fiat Multipla looks like. But let's not kid ourselves. Cars all pretty much look the same within a decade (only the comparatively expensive ones look like ass individually). I mean there are models from different makers and rivalling companies that even have the same window line. And im not talking about "similar" im talking completely the same. That being said, the multipla at least tries to look different. ish. They stopped making pretty cars in the seventies, anyway.
The TX Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities	Posted - 2008.12.15 16:56:00 - [54] Originally by: Grimpak amazingly, many people say that the ugliness of the car is the only drawback of it. it has nice space, it's comfortable, and on the mechanic side, it behaves nicely. This. This and totally completely this. The ouside is the only drawback. Apart from typical Fix-It-Again-Tomorrow (F.I.A.T) problems, hehe. That said, I've only spent out on getting rear brakes fixed and a new exhaust. Apart from that, it's not needed any work afaik. - - - Originally by: Slade Trillgon Holy wall of text TX-Man.
Hellraiza666 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.12.15 17:49:00 - [55] Originally by: Verone Originally by: Hellraiza666 literally exactly the same reason i failed my first test!!!!!!! except it was a guy who pulled on car park, not a girl. RAWRAWR AWRAWR AWRAWR RAWRAWRAW AWRAWRAWRAR AWRRWARRAWR!!!11 Im back from being AFK for 1 day and already a verone reply ♥

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