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moppinator
Caldari AMT. Ev0ke
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:13:00 -
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Edited by: moppinator on 12/12/2008 01:14:18 Edited by: moppinator on 12/12/2008 01:13:55 In order to clarify the involvement of Ev0ke in the recently uncovered pos mechanics exploit we herby release our official statement to set the record straight.
As you might have already heard from various sources we had several accounts banned for reasons of EULA violation. Some of the individuals in question have confessed to us that they in fact did engage in such and that those bans are a direct result from it. We were just as surprised to learn about the utterly flawed game mechanics as you propably have been and downright enraged that members of our own alliance took advantage of it.
It is important for us to point out that the vast majority of our membership was unaware of the existance of such an exploit, let alone that someone from our midst would utilize it. Further on it is important to note that not all members who had their accounts banned were directly involved, at least they didn't consciously support it.
CCP's investigation of that matter is still ongoing and we believe that time will tell who can be considered innocent and who not.
Still we want to apologize to the whole EvE Online Community for our failure at discovering the actions of that group of former members ourselves. They have fooled and disappointed us even more than they did you.
regards
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Morris Falter
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:14:00 -
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Edited by: Morris Falter on 12/12/2008 01:20:14 Some context.
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Sacul
Gallente Wreckless Abandon G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:14:00 -
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Edited by: Sacul on 12/12/2008 01:15:29 Nice one to fess up mate. Could u tell us if the individuals did it for their own or did Tom McCash also lose his Titan?
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Athena Attom
Gallente Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:14:00 -
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Edited by: Athena Attom on 12/12/2008 01:16:45 **** morris first was mine!
edit confirm who else was banned mr evokian! Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal |

Minigin
Caldari coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:16:00 -
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props . MINIGIN! The original colour poster - now surrounding you in limegreen.
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Nick Curso
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:16:00 -
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First page on the ultimate drama bomb
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Avernus
Gallente Imperium Technologies Sangre Azul
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:19:00 -
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Good to see people who can take it on the chin.
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Afale II
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:19:00 -
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Edited by: Afale II on 12/12/2008 01:21:42 Edited by: Afale II on 12/12/2008 01:19:32 8 th
god damnit
wasn't that bad
now give waffles for everyone!
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Jack Sparroxx
Gallente Honour Bound Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:22:00 -
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Tom McCash have been online to night.. so I doubt he is banned yet.. but time will tell how far this extends
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Moonlight Express
Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:22:00 -
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Just like others in alliances that were exposed of cheating, Ev0ke will forever be labeled as cheaters regardless if majority of your membership did not know about it. It might not be fair, but that's how it is in EVE. Apology rejected.
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Avernus
Gallente Imperium Technologies Sangre Azul
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Moonlight Express Just like others in alliances that were exposed of cheating, Ev0ke will forever be labeled as cheaters regardless if majority of your membership did not know about it. It might not be fair, but that's how it is in EVE. Apology rejected.
Disagree.
Some like labels, others have a brain.
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Astasia Orian
Minmatar Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:25:00 -
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lol how did we spank G so badly in fountain when they had infinite money? :(
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Aceoil
Caldari Eyes of the Night Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:25:00 -
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A few bad apples dont ruin a whole tree of good apples.
mmmm,
Got any apple pie?
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Norwood Franskly
Minmatar Fleet of the Damned Dark Trinity Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:26:00 -
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Edited by: Norwood Franskly on 12/12/2008 01:26:57 To play devil's advocates here, how could you Alliance directors etc not notice or be suspicious of the amount of isk that was coming in from the exploit? Surely someone must have noticed something didn't add up. Especially if it had been going on since 2005.
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Ackaroth
Gallente Plundering Penguins
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:26:00 -
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Just like the rest of CAOD, I agree that moonlight is a tool.
Plundering Penguins is recruiting PVP pilots. See Recruitment Thread for details. |

Draconian Arcane
Minmatar Praetorian BlackGuard Frater Adhuc Excessum
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: moppinator Edited by: moppinator on 12/12/2008 01:14:18 Edited by: moppinator on 12/12/2008 01:13:55 In order to clarify the involvement of Ev0ke in the recently uncovered pos mechanics exploit we herby release our official statement to set the record straight.
As you might have already heard from various sources we had several accounts banned for reasons of EULA violation. Some of the individuals in question have confessed to us that they in fact did engage in such and that those bans are a direct result from it. We were just as surprised to learn about the utterly flawed game mechanics as you propably have been and downright enraged that members of our own alliance took advantage of it.
It is important for us to point out that the vast majority of our membership was unaware of the existance of such an exploit, let alone that someone from our midst would utilize it. Further on it is important to note that not all members who had their accounts banned were directly involved, at least they didn't consciously support it.
CCP's investigation of that matter is still ongoing and we believe that time will tell who can be considered innocent and who not.
Still we want to apologize to the whole EvE Online Community for our failure at discovering the actions of that group of former members ourselves. They have fooled and disappointed us even more than they did you.
regards
Thank you for the apology and I wish your alliance luck in recovering from such a situation as this. Hopefully those others that were involved come clean.
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Ackaroth
Gallente Plundering Penguins
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: Norwood Franskly To play devil's advocates here, how could you Alliance directors etc not notice or be suspicious of the amount of isk that was coming in from the exploit? Sure someone must have noticed something didn't add up. Especially if it had been going on since 2005.
Pos mining isnt a taxable thing. If these players were just "nice guys" and would throw a few spare ships at their corpmates every now and again, no one would be the wiser. I know plenty of players who have way too much fuggin isk, and actually get it legitimately. Everyone knows people like that I'm sure.
Plundering Penguins is recruiting PVP pilots. See Recruitment Thread for details. |

Avernus
Gallente Imperium Technologies Sangre Azul
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: Norwood Franskly To play devil's advocates here, how could you Alliance directors etc not notice or be suspicious of the amount of isk that was coming in from the exploit? Sure someone must have noticed something didn't add up. Especially if it had been going on since 2005.
That goes on the assumption that the generated isk from sales went to benefit the alliance directly. That's for CCP to determine at this point; if it isn't the case, then how the directors could be any the wiser for it, I don't know.
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thoth foc
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:28:00 -
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Given how your allies have acted in the past over such things, i'll be interested in how this turns out..
props for trying to take it on the chin anyway.. it was known already.. but well.. mueh ------------------ x-DSMA (Menta) x-CA (OMEGA/BOS) x-.5.(ATUK) BOB (DICE) |

Bobby Atlas
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:29:00 -
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class act, well said.
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Monkey Saturday
Gallente Unknown Soldiers Soldiers Of New Eve
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:32:00 -
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wtb ferrogel good price convo ingame
Thanks for the Maulus BPO nerf! :D |

Carebear Eyes
Minmatar Rifters of Doom
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:32:00 -
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Edited by: Carebear Eyes on 12/12/2008 01:32:56 What do the military experts say?
real edit: Happy Christmas! |

Popperr
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:33:00 -
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all i read was dyspro dyspro dyspro dyspro dyspro dyspro
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Norwood Franskly
Minmatar Fleet of the Damned Dark Trinity Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ackaroth
Originally by: Norwood Franskly To play devil's advocates here, how could you Alliance directors etc not notice or be suspicious of the amount of isk that was coming in from the exploit? Sure someone must have noticed something didn't add up. Especially if it had been going on since 2005.
Pos mining isnt a taxable thing. If these players were just "nice guys" and would throw a few spare ships at their corpmates every now and again, no one would be the wiser. I know plenty of players who have way too much fuggin isk, and actually get it legitimately. Everyone knows people like that I'm sure.
Makes sense then, unfortunate that people were able to abuse this for as long as they did.
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harry beanbag
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:39:00 -
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An alliance as a whole cannot be held responsible for the unknown actions of a few of its members. There are many fine pilots in Evoke and i dont believe these actions should taint the name of your alliance.
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Slade Trillgon
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:46:00 -
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Yes, thank you for the apology. I was already in the thought that this was how it happened. Take that as you all may.
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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Dal Thrax
Caldari Multiverse Corporation Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: Norwood Franskly Edited by: Norwood Franskly on 12/12/2008 01:26:57 To play devil's advocates here, how could you Alliance directors etc not notice or be suspicious of the amount of isk that was coming in from the exploit? Surely someone must have noticed something didn't add up. Especially if it had been going on since 2005.
TBH I can see it. Invention caused the price of high end reactions to increase by 10x if not 100x (I seem to remember Dyspo at 3000/unit at one point). Back in the T2 BPO days most component sales where handled off the market by agreement between the BPO holder and the manufacturer of the minerals.
The real problem is it sounds like we might have lost 1/2 or more of the ferrogel supply. T2 prices may double over the next couple of weeks.
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Avernus
Gallente Imperium Technologies Sangre Azul
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:53:00 -
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Just thinking, but isn't ferrogel used primarily in the manufacture of reactors... which is primarily used in ships? So perhaps we're just looking at price increases for T2 ships, and not so much for T2 mods?
I'm not a producer, so my info on this isn't exactly ironclad.
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JuGGeR
Caldari Phantom Squad Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:54:00 -
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nice to have some 1 inform others on what went on there , gl with getting the alliance back on its feet ..
ccp plz leek more info...
Phantomsquad |

Haakelen
Gallente Cassandra's Light Caeruleum Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:59:00 -
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Good on you for admitting it, but it won't do much good. Lots of one-track minds here.
But if they managed to do this under the radar, I wonder how many corpthieves you have... 
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