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MooKids
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Posted - 2004.07.17 16:57:00 -
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How about this?
The Caldaris will assist the Minmatar free the slaves, IF the Minmatars agree to help us liberate Caldari Prime  .
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MooKids
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Posted - 2004.07.17 16:57:00 -
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How about this?
The Caldaris will assist the Minmatar free the slaves, IF the Minmatars agree to help us liberate Caldari Prime .
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Bohr
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Posted - 2004.07.17 17:17:00 -
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 Originally by: Wolf4ever
Originally by: Origim
Edited by: Origim on 17/07/2004 12:59:33
Originally by: Nebulous
Haratu? well kept? well trained? you talk of the slaves as if they are dogs which also shows how much respect you have for them, you KNOW it is wrong to slave people even if they appear to like it, it is only because they know no better.
To not know better is to be happy.
For example, imagine you are living a happy and good life. One day, however, you discover that there is a much, MUCH better life than you have right now. Would you not become dissatisfied with your current life as it is?
My opinion has nothing to do with the issue of Minmatar Slavery, however.
I think most pll would....,remember USSR?
On a sidenote, funny thing you say that..
Large numbers of the russian population actually long for the days of communism. Getting hit by the capitalistic "wheels of steel" was'nt the best solution ever. And to make it even worse, the other large group in the motherland, are getting overly hellbend on neo ****sm.
So, remember WW2?
Oh, yeah. And the grass is allways greener on the other side :P, but who does it matter for?
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Bohr
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Posted - 2004.07.17 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Wolf4ever
Originally by: Origim
Edited by: Origim on 17/07/2004 12:59:33
Originally by: Nebulous
Haratu? well kept? well trained? you talk of the slaves as if they are dogs which also shows how much respect you have for them, you KNOW it is wrong to slave people even if they appear to like it, it is only because they know no better.
To not know better is to be happy.
For example, imagine you are living a happy and good life. One day, however, you discover that there is a much, MUCH better life than you have right now. Would you not become dissatisfied with your current life as it is?
My opinion has nothing to do with the issue of Minmatar Slavery, however.
I think most pll would....,remember USSR?
On a sidenote, funny thing you say that..
Large numbers of the russian population actually long for the days of communism. Getting hit by the capitalistic "wheels of steel" was'nt the best solution ever. And to make it even worse, the other large group in the motherland, are getting overly hellbend on neo ****sm.
So, remember WW2?
Oh, yeah. And the grass is allways greener on the other side :P, but who does it matter for?
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Nebulous
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Posted - 2004.07.17 18:25:00 -
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It seems that the ammar have no legitimate reason to slave our people, haratu keeps talking a lot of s**t, the only solution to this is the complete abolishment of slavery and failure to comply to this is a severe display of disrespect. I and many minmatar do not want to see partial releasing of slaves, releasing ALL slaves would bring peace between our races, the reason this has not happened then is because they dont want peace. The minmatar race have much more physical and mental strength than the ammar which in turn makes them feel inferior to us and this is why they slave our people. The only clear solution to this is by taking them on with a massive show of force.
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Nebulous
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Posted - 2004.07.17 18:25:00 -
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It seems that the ammar have no legitimate reason to slave our people, haratu keeps talking a lot of s**t, the only solution to this is the complete abolishment of slavery and failure to comply to this is a severe display of disrespect. I and many minmatar do not want to see partial releasing of slaves, releasing ALL slaves would bring peace between our races, the reason this has not happened then is because they dont want peace. The minmatar race have much more physical and mental strength than the ammar which in turn makes them feel inferior to us and this is why they slave our people. The only clear solution to this is by taking them on with a massive show of force.
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Yrkoon
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Posted - 2004.07.17 20:35:00 -
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WTS 300 slaves
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Yrkoon
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Posted - 2004.07.17 20:35:00 -
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WTS 300 slaves
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Kyle Kador
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Posted - 2004.07.17 21:50:00 -
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Edited by: Kyle Kador on 17/07/2004 21:55:02
LOL all this talk of pie has made me hungry there will allways be slaves as there will allways be the stars, talking about it will not help them in fact i will whip mine harder tonight just because of this thread
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Kyle Kador
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Posted - 2004.07.17 21:50:00 -
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Edited by: Kyle Kador on 17/07/2004 21:55:02
LOL all this talk of pie has made me hungry there will allways be slaves as there will allways be the stars, talking about it will not help them in fact i will whip mine harder tonight just because of this thread
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2004.07.17 21:54:00 -
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I freed about 2000 slaves today.
Then I popped the cargo can with a well placed torpedo.
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2004.07.17 21:54:00 -
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I freed about 2000 slaves today.
Then I popped the cargo can with a well placed torpedo.
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NoHawker
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Posted - 2004.07.17 23:32:00 -
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It's a misunderstood conception when people think Amarrians in general treat their slaves badly. This may suprise you but yes indeed we see our slaves as higher then property and higher then animals. They are treated well, though slaves may never enjoy full citizenship to our glorious Empire they have the second best thing... front row seats.
I personaly don't care for slaves one way or the other, not all Amarrians are keepers to slaves even wealthy ones. Some Amarrians like my family aren't frugal enough not to spend a few more ISK for robots and machines that don't complain about long hours.
What are you going to do?
I'm going to kill them all sir |
NoHawker
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Posted - 2004.07.17 23:32:00 -
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It's a misunderstood conception when people think Amarrians in general treat their slaves badly. This may suprise you but yes indeed we see our slaves as higher then property and higher then animals. They are treated well, though slaves may never enjoy full citizenship to our glorious Empire they have the second best thing... front row seats.
I personaly don't care for slaves one way or the other, not all Amarrians are keepers to slaves even wealthy ones. Some Amarrians like my family aren't frugal enough not to spend a few more ISK for robots and machines that don't complain about long hours.
What are you going to do?
I'm going to kill them all sir |
Phony v2
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Posted - 2004.07.18 01:06:00 -
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If someone could discover the location of a large scale slave housing compound I would glady strike against it. I'll bring battleships filled with marines (hint hint CCP maybe you could make marines useful for this purpose or others?) FREE ALL SLAVES!
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Phony v2
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Posted - 2004.07.18 01:06:00 -
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If someone could discover the location of a large scale slave housing compound I would glady strike against it. I'll bring battleships filled with marines (hint hint CCP maybe you could make marines useful for this purpose or others?) FREE ALL SLAVES!
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Ris Dnalor
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Posted - 2004.07.18 01:39:00 -
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Edited by: Ris Dnalor on 18/07/2004 01:45:14
The Ammarians presume they have the right to own Minmatar as one might own an object. The quality of treatment they receive is irrelevant. They are people, & as such cannot be owned.
If one says that a slave is happy with a 'stress free life of servitude', then educate that person, give them another option.. make them aware that they have options... make them unafraid to seek out options... & then, if they still choose that life, there are plenty of career choices that allow for slim pay, with room & board provided. However, if there were plenty of people out there in the galaxy who were willing to choose to work countless hours for 'peanuts', then there would be no added benefit for the ammarians to use slave-labor, & the Amarrians would have no qualms releasing their slaves. The added benefit they get from using slaves, is more isk in their pocket. Isk that they gain by depriving their slaves of the minimum quality of life standards that we free people take for granted. It is abhorrent that these people would in engage in such behaviour, but it is more unbelievable that so many people stand by & allow it to happen. CONCORD, on the other hand, is preventing us from freeing our brethren, educating them, & allowing them to choose their own paths in life. It is inconceievable for me to think that CONCORD actually will protect these amarrian slavers from we minmatar who so selflessly try to free our brothers.
Something must be done. If the powers that be continue to ignore this situation, it will come to a head, & ulitmately if concord stands in the way of the human rights of our brothers, then they too will be judged guilty of denying basic human rights to it's citizens & while Concord does much good by maintaining order in the empire, that will not outweigh it's crimes & concord will come under fire along with the slavers.
Politics bedamned. Right is right. This must change. If change isn't willingly made, change will be forced.
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Ris Dnalor
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Posted - 2004.07.18 01:39:00 -
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Edited by: Ris Dnalor on 18/07/2004 01:45:14
The Ammarians presume they have the right to own Minmatar as one might own an object. The quality of treatment they receive is irrelevant. They are people, & as such cannot be owned.
If one says that a slave is happy with a 'stress free life of servitude', then educate that person, give them another option.. make them aware that they have options... make them unafraid to seek out options... & then, if they still choose that life, there are plenty of career choices that allow for slim pay, with room & board provided. However, if there were plenty of people out there in the galaxy who were willing to choose to work countless hours for 'peanuts', then there would be no added benefit for the ammarians to use slave-labor, & the Amarrians would have no qualms releasing their slaves. The added benefit they get from using slaves, is more isk in their pocket. Isk that they gain by depriving their slaves of the minimum quality of life standards that we free people take for granted. It is abhorrent that these people would in engage in such behaviour, but it is more unbelievable that so many people stand by & allow it to happen. CONCORD, on the other hand, is preventing us from freeing our brethren, educating them, & allowing them to choose their own paths in life. It is inconceievable for me to think that CONCORD actually will protect these amarrian slavers from we minmatar who so selflessly try to free our brothers.
Something must be done. If the powers that be continue to ignore this situation, it will come to a head, & ulitmately if concord stands in the way of the human rights of our brothers, then they too will be judged guilty of denying basic human rights to it's citizens & while Concord does much good by maintaining order in the empire, that will not outweigh it's crimes & concord will come under fire along with the slavers.
Politics bedamned. Right is right. This must change. If change isn't willingly made, change will be forced.
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Jump Drive Operation / Rank 5 / SP: 1280000 of 1280000
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Kyle Kador
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Posted - 2004.07.18 05:53:00 -
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Strange how you people place old earth values in the eve universe 
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Kyle Kador
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Posted - 2004.07.18 05:53:00 -
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Strange how you people place old earth values in the eve universe
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F'nog
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Posted - 2004.07.18 06:05:00 -
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And how am I supposed to keep my ship clean without slaves? And what about my food? Who will serve me? Please think before you post.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2004.07.18 06:05:00 -
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And how am I supposed to keep my ship clean without slaves? And what about my food? Who will serve me? Please think before you post.
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Nebulous
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Posted - 2004.07.18 08:41:00 -
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well said ris :)
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Nebulous
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Posted - 2004.07.18 08:41:00 -
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well said ris :)
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Borvak Hdrak
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Posted - 2004.07.19 11:30:00 -
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I share your pain Nebulous.
Rise up and strike against all Amarrian corporations. Don't stop fighting until the whole of the Amarrian Empire is burning and all of our people have been brought home.
We will not live in slavery.
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Borvak Hdrak
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Posted - 2004.07.19 11:30:00 -
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I share your pain Nebulous.
Rise up and strike against all Amarrian corporations. Don't stop fighting until the whole of the Amarrian Empire is burning and all of our people have been brought home.
We will not live in slavery.
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Helplessandlost
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Posted - 2004.07.19 11:47:00 -
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Option to free them 
Check us out
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Helplessandlost
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Posted - 2004.07.19 11:47:00 -
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Option to free them
Check us out
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Aturayd
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Posted - 2004.07.19 11:58:00 -
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Just to let all you fanatical abolishionists know, that freeing the slaves all at once in one swoop would be wrong, cruel, and devastating. THe only way to properly free a slave is to educate it in the ways of the world, show it how to survive on its own, give it industrial skills and teach them a trade. Then you can release them, but this takes a long time to release slaves. If it is done correctly like this, there will never be any "hatred" between the slaves and the former slave owners or any stupid race warfare within the Amarr Empire.
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Aturayd
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Posted - 2004.07.19 11:58:00 -
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Just to let all you fanatical abolishionists know, that freeing the slaves all at once in one swoop would be wrong, cruel, and devastating. THe only way to properly free a slave is to educate it in the ways of the world, show it how to survive on its own, give it industrial skills and teach them a trade. Then you can release them, but this takes a long time to release slaves. If it is done correctly like this, there will never be any "hatred" between the slaves and the former slave owners or any stupid race warfare within the Amarr Empire.
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