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Nebulous
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Posted - 2004.07.17 11:21:00 -
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Me and i hope many other minmatar are against slavery, it would be great if slavery could be completely abolished. Please post if you have any ideas on how this could be achieved for example organised attacks on ammar ships until slavery is completely abolished, some people may say that this isnt fair on ammarians who are against slavery but i say that this is the price they have to pay for slaving thousands of our people. |
Nebulous
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Posted - 2004.07.17 11:21:00 -
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Me and i hope many other minmatar are against slavery, it would be great if slavery could be completely abolished. Please post if you have any ideas on how this could be achieved for example organised attacks on ammar ships until slavery is completely abolished, some people may say that this isnt fair on ammarians who are against slavery but i say that this is the price they have to pay for slaving thousands of our people. |
P'tui Quyh
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Posted - 2004.07.17 11:25:00 -
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My mom was a minmatar "slave" and my Dad is a member of the Amarr Royal Family. We've done alright out of the arrangement so its not all bad.
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P'tui Quyh
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Posted - 2004.07.17 11:25:00 -
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My mom was a minmatar "slave" and my Dad is a member of the Amarr Royal Family. We've done alright out of the arrangement so its not all bad.
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Haratu
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Posted - 2004.07.17 11:28:00 -
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My slaves are well kept, trained well and given a life free from the pressures of everyday life... and you want to take that away from them... i think you are the criminal, not I.
Most slaves were born into slavery and are happy with the life they lead, you think you know what is best for them? Perahaps not massacring the ships that the slaves live on would be a help to the slaves?
For every amarr battleship you destroy there are about 1000 slaves you kill along with it (about 4000-10000 crew members). You are evil arn't you.
The only end to slavery that is good for everyone is the gradual cultural change, anything else will only end in trouble for the slaves, and they are the only innocents in your war mongering.
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
Haratu
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Posted - 2004.07.17 11:28:00 -
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My slaves are well kept, trained well and given a life free from the pressures of everyday life... and you want to take that away from them... i think you are the criminal, not I.
Most slaves were born into slavery and are happy with the life they lead, you think you know what is best for them? Perahaps not massacring the ships that the slaves live on would be a help to the slaves?
For every amarr battleship you destroy there are about 1000 slaves you kill along with it (about 4000-10000 crew members). You are evil arn't you.
The only end to slavery that is good for everyone is the gradual cultural change, anything else will only end in trouble for the slaves, and they are the only innocents in your war mongering.
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
Nebulous
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Posted - 2004.07.17 11:38:00 -
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Haratu? well kept? well trained? you talk of the slaves as if they are dogs which also shows how much respect you have for them, you KNOW it is wrong to slave people even if they appear to like it, it is only because they know no better.
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Nebulous
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Posted - 2004.07.17 11:38:00 -
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Haratu? well kept? well trained? you talk of the slaves as if they are dogs which also shows how much respect you have for them, you KNOW it is wrong to slave people even if they appear to like it, it is only because they know no better.
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Wolf4ever
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Posted - 2004.07.17 12:35:00 -
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 Originally by: P'tui Quyh
My mom was a minmatar "slave" and my Dad is a member of the Amarr Royal Family. We've done alright out of the arrangement so its not all bad.
cool, and my dog is from royal Amarr family, but can was a slave...and now they got alot of kids together
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Wolf4ever
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Posted - 2004.07.17 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: P'tui Quyh
My mom was a minmatar "slave" and my Dad is a member of the Amarr Royal Family. We've done alright out of the arrangement so its not all bad.
cool, and my dog is from royal Amarr family, but can was a slave...and now they got alot of kids together
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Origim
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Posted - 2004.07.17 12:58:00 -
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Edited by: Origim on 17/07/2004 12:59:33
Originally by: Nebulous
Haratu? well kept? well trained? you talk of the slaves as if they are dogs which also shows how much respect you have for them, you KNOW it is wrong to slave people even if they appear to like it, it is only because they know no better.
To not know better is to be happy.
For example, imagine you are living a happy and good life. One day, however, you discover that there is a much, MUCH better life than you have right now. Would you not become dissatisfied with your current life as it is?
My opinion has nothing to do with the issue of Minmatar Slavery, however.
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Origim
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Posted - 2004.07.17 12:58:00 -
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Edited by: Origim on 17/07/2004 12:59:33
Originally by: Nebulous
Haratu? well kept? well trained? you talk of the slaves as if they are dogs which also shows how much respect you have for them, you KNOW it is wrong to slave people even if they appear to like it, it is only because they know no better.
To not know better is to be happy.
For example, imagine you are living a happy and good life. One day, however, you discover that there is a much, MUCH better life than you have right now. Would you not become dissatisfied with your current life as it is?
My opinion has nothing to do with the issue of Minmatar Slavery, however.
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Wolf4ever
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Posted - 2004.07.17 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Origim
Edited by: Origim on 17/07/2004 12:59:33
Originally by: Nebulous
Haratu? well kept? well trained? you talk of the slaves as if they are dogs which also shows how much respect you have for them, you KNOW it is wrong to slave people even if they appear to like it, it is only because they know no better.
To not know better is to be happy.
For example, imagine you are living a happy and good life. One day, however, you discover that there is a much, MUCH better life than you have right now. Would you not become dissatisfied with your current life as it is?
My opinion has nothing to do with the issue of Minmatar Slavery, however.
I think most pll would....,remember USSR?
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Wolf4ever
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Posted - 2004.07.17 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Origim
Edited by: Origim on 17/07/2004 12:59:33
Originally by: Nebulous
Haratu? well kept? well trained? you talk of the slaves as if they are dogs which also shows how much respect you have for them, you KNOW it is wrong to slave people even if they appear to like it, it is only because they know no better.
To not know better is to be happy.
For example, imagine you are living a happy and good life. One day, however, you discover that there is a much, MUCH better life than you have right now. Would you not become dissatisfied with your current life as it is?
My opinion has nothing to do with the issue of Minmatar Slavery, however.
I think most pll would....,remember USSR?
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Origim
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Posted - 2004.07.17 13:56:00 -
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Edited by: Origim on 17/07/2004 13:57:36
Originally by: Wolf4ever
Originally by: Origim
Edited by: Origim on 17/07/2004 12:59:33
Originally by: Nebulous
Haratu? well kept? well trained? you talk of the slaves as if they are dogs which also shows how much respect you have for them, you KNOW it is wrong to slave people even if they appear to like it, it is only because they know no better.
To not know better is to be happy.
For example, imagine you are living a happy and good life. One day, however, you discover that there is a much, MUCH better life than you have right now. Would you not become dissatisfied with your current life as it is?
My opinion has nothing to do with the issue of Minmatar Slavery, however.
I think most pll would....,remember USSR?
Well, the rule doesn't work when you are mistreated. If you are horribly treated, you would know that some are not mistreated and therefore live better. I don't know how Amarr treat Minmatar slaves, so my opinion, again, has nothing to do with Minmatar slavery.
Another example: You eat a pie for breakfast every day. You think the pie is great... but one day, you go to a friend's house and try a different pie. That different pie is MUCH better. Your original pie wouldn't taste so great after you tasted your friend's pie, would it? 
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Origim
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Posted - 2004.07.17 13:56:00 -
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Edited by: Origim on 17/07/2004 13:57:36
Originally by: Wolf4ever
Originally by: Origim
Edited by: Origim on 17/07/2004 12:59:33
Originally by: Nebulous
Haratu? well kept? well trained? you talk of the slaves as if they are dogs which also shows how much respect you have for them, you KNOW it is wrong to slave people even if they appear to like it, it is only because they know no better.
To not know better is to be happy.
For example, imagine you are living a happy and good life. One day, however, you discover that there is a much, MUCH better life than you have right now. Would you not become dissatisfied with your current life as it is?
My opinion has nothing to do with the issue of Minmatar Slavery, however.
I think most pll would....,remember USSR?
Well, the rule doesn't work when you are mistreated. If you are horribly treated, you would know that some are not mistreated and therefore live better. I don't know how Amarr treat Minmatar slaves, so my opinion, again, has nothing to do with Minmatar slavery.
Another example: You eat a pie for breakfast every day. You think the pie is great... but one day, you go to a friend's house and try a different pie. That different pie is MUCH better. Your original pie wouldn't taste so great after you tasted your friend's pie, would it?
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Haratu
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Posted - 2004.07.17 14:23:00 -
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Edited by: Haratu on 17/07/2004 14:30:53
Originally by: Origim
Another example: You eat a pie for breakfast every day. You think the pie is great... but one day, you go to a friend's house and try a different pie. That different pie is MUCH better. Your original pie wouldn't taste so great after you tasted your friend's pie, would it?
But if you never taste your friend's pie then you are happy with your own pie and you are never jealous of anyone else.
To take a biblical example... was not Adam and Eve perfectly happy in the garden of Eden? Eating fruit from the tree of knowledge ended up causing them harm. They were destroyed because they had somone else's apple pie it was greed and jealousy of God that destoyed them.
Slaves likewise are in a state of peace (presuming treated well), give them freedom and they begin seeking more... thinking they can have what is not theirs, this causes arguments and turmoil amongst them selves.
Where are they better off? in Eden... or in Hell?
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
Haratu
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Posted - 2004.07.17 14:23:00 -
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Edited by: Haratu on 17/07/2004 14:30:53
Originally by: Origim
Another example: You eat a pie for breakfast every day. You think the pie is great... but one day, you go to a friend's house and try a different pie. That different pie is MUCH better. Your original pie wouldn't taste so great after you tasted your friend's pie, would it?
But if you never taste your friend's pie then you are happy with your own pie and you are never jealous of anyone else.
To take a biblical example... was not Adam and Eve perfectly happy in the garden of Eden? Eating fruit from the tree of knowledge ended up causing them harm. They were destroyed because they had somone else's apple pie it was greed and jealousy of God that destoyed them.
Slaves likewise are in a state of peace (presuming treated well), give them freedom and they begin seeking more... thinking they can have what is not theirs, this causes arguments and turmoil amongst them selves.
Where are they better off? in Eden... or in Hell?
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
Arlen Seek
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Posted - 2004.07.17 14:41:00 -
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Haratu, you speak of your slaves though, what of other slavers, do you presume to speak for them as well?
If slavery was abolished and your slaves freed, would you not give them the chance to stay with you by choice, as free men and women?
E Pluribus Unum
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Arlen Seek
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Posted - 2004.07.17 14:41:00 -
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Haratu, you speak of your slaves though, what of other slavers, do you presume to speak for them as well?
If slavery was abolished and your slaves freed, would you not give them the chance to stay with you by choice, as free men and women?
E Pluribus Unum
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Sherdoux
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Posted - 2004.07.17 14:42:00 -
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Abolishing slavery would just kill my profit you know those lousy scientists always wanting more people to test on why instead of homeless who make great. Attachments to my torps as screaming torps "or is it space no one can you scream" oh well you get the point life is cheap keep slavery more food for scientific research. I say Keep slavery we need opression :)
Bounce Bounce Bounce Bounce I like to see many things to bounce; Bounce Bounce Bounce Bounce including the juggy's on a nice fem whether it be the juggies or the fine ship she be flieing I'll make bounce some more. |
Sherdoux
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Posted - 2004.07.17 14:42:00 -
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Abolishing slavery would just kill my profit you know those lousy scientists always wanting more people to test on why instead of homeless who make great. Attachments to my torps as screaming torps "or is it space no one can you scream" oh well you get the point life is cheap keep slavery more food for scientific research. I say Keep slavery we need opression :)
Bounce Bounce Bounce Bounce I like to see many things to bounce; Bounce Bounce Bounce Bounce including the juggy's on a nice fem whether it be the juggies or the fine ship she be flieing I'll make bounce some more. |
Nebulous
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Posted - 2004.07.17 14:44:00 -
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well said arlen, its all about choice, a slave has no choice in what he is doing.
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Nebulous
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Posted - 2004.07.17 14:44:00 -
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well said arlen, its all about choice, a slave has no choice in what he is doing.
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Haratu
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Posted - 2004.07.17 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Arlen Seek
If slavery was abolished and your slaves freed, would you not give them the chance to stay with you by choice, as free men and women?
I freed 500 slaves last week... the info can be found here. The reason i freed them was because i had too many, i gave them the option and they went, if all my slaves wanted to go or stay then there would have been bloodshed, but there was not. Even the minmatar collector that visited had a healthy conversation.
Proof that the end of slavery does not have to involve bloodshed
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
Haratu
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Posted - 2004.07.17 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Arlen Seek
If slavery was abolished and your slaves freed, would you not give them the chance to stay with you by choice, as free men and women?
I freed 500 slaves last week... the info can be found here. The reason i freed them was because i had too many, i gave them the option and they went, if all my slaves wanted to go or stay then there would have been bloodshed, but there was not. Even the minmatar collector that visited had a healthy conversation.
Proof that the end of slavery does not have to involve bloodshed
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
Ajill
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Posted - 2004.07.17 15:22:00 -
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Putting all Minmatar under slavery would stop them complaining about it
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Ajill
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Posted - 2004.07.17 15:22:00 -
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Putting all Minmatar under slavery would stop them complaining about it
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.07.17 15:50:00 -
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 Intergalactic Summit. 
Convert Stations
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.07.17 15:50:00 -
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Intergalactic Summit.
Convert Stations
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MooKids
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Posted - 2004.07.17 16:57:00 -
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How about this?
The Caldaris will assist the Minmatar free the slaves, IF the Minmatars agree to help us liberate Caldari Prime .
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MooKids
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Posted - 2004.07.17 16:57:00 -
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How about this?
The Caldaris will assist the Minmatar free the slaves, IF the Minmatars agree to help us liberate Caldari Prime .
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Bohr
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Posted - 2004.07.17 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Wolf4ever
Originally by: Origim
Edited by: Origim on 17/07/2004 12:59:33
Originally by: Nebulous
Haratu? well kept? well trained? you talk of the slaves as if they are dogs which also shows how much respect you have for them, you KNOW it is wrong to slave people even if they appear to like it, it is only because they know no better.
To not know better is to be happy.
For example, imagine you are living a happy and good life. One day, however, you discover that there is a much, MUCH better life than you have right now. Would you not become dissatisfied with your current life as it is?
My opinion has nothing to do with the issue of Minmatar Slavery, however.
I think most pll would....,remember USSR?
On a sidenote, funny thing you say that..
Large numbers of the russian population actually long for the days of communism. Getting hit by the capitalistic "wheels of steel" was'nt the best solution ever. And to make it even worse, the other large group in the motherland, are getting overly hellbend on neo ****sm.
So, remember WW2?
Oh, yeah. And the grass is allways greener on the other side :P, but who does it matter for?
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Bohr
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Posted - 2004.07.17 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Wolf4ever
Originally by: Origim
Edited by: Origim on 17/07/2004 12:59:33
Originally by: Nebulous
Haratu? well kept? well trained? you talk of the slaves as if they are dogs which also shows how much respect you have for them, you KNOW it is wrong to slave people even if they appear to like it, it is only because they know no better.
To not know better is to be happy.
For example, imagine you are living a happy and good life. One day, however, you discover that there is a much, MUCH better life than you have right now. Would you not become dissatisfied with your current life as it is?
My opinion has nothing to do with the issue of Minmatar Slavery, however.
I think most pll would....,remember USSR?
On a sidenote, funny thing you say that..
Large numbers of the russian population actually long for the days of communism. Getting hit by the capitalistic "wheels of steel" was'nt the best solution ever. And to make it even worse, the other large group in the motherland, are getting overly hellbend on neo ****sm.
So, remember WW2?
Oh, yeah. And the grass is allways greener on the other side :P, but who does it matter for?
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Nebulous
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Posted - 2004.07.17 18:25:00 -
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It seems that the ammar have no legitimate reason to slave our people, haratu keeps talking a lot of s**t, the only solution to this is the complete abolishment of slavery and failure to comply to this is a severe display of disrespect. I and many minmatar do not want to see partial releasing of slaves, releasing ALL slaves would bring peace between our races, the reason this has not happened then is because they dont want peace. The minmatar race have much more physical and mental strength than the ammar which in turn makes them feel inferior to us and this is why they slave our people. The only clear solution to this is by taking them on with a massive show of force.
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Nebulous
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Posted - 2004.07.17 18:25:00 -
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It seems that the ammar have no legitimate reason to slave our people, haratu keeps talking a lot of s**t, the only solution to this is the complete abolishment of slavery and failure to comply to this is a severe display of disrespect. I and many minmatar do not want to see partial releasing of slaves, releasing ALL slaves would bring peace between our races, the reason this has not happened then is because they dont want peace. The minmatar race have much more physical and mental strength than the ammar which in turn makes them feel inferior to us and this is why they slave our people. The only clear solution to this is by taking them on with a massive show of force.
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Yrkoon
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Posted - 2004.07.17 20:35:00 -
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WTS 300 slaves
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Yrkoon
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Posted - 2004.07.17 20:35:00 -
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WTS 300 slaves
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Kyle Kador
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Posted - 2004.07.17 21:50:00 -
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Edited by: Kyle Kador on 17/07/2004 21:55:02
LOL all this talk of pie has made me hungry there will allways be slaves as there will allways be the stars, talking about it will not help them in fact i will whip mine harder tonight just because of this thread
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Kyle Kador
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Posted - 2004.07.17 21:50:00 -
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Edited by: Kyle Kador on 17/07/2004 21:55:02
LOL all this talk of pie has made me hungry there will allways be slaves as there will allways be the stars, talking about it will not help them in fact i will whip mine harder tonight just because of this thread
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2004.07.17 21:54:00 -
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I freed about 2000 slaves today.
Then I popped the cargo can with a well placed torpedo.
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2004.07.17 21:54:00 -
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I freed about 2000 slaves today.
Then I popped the cargo can with a well placed torpedo.
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NoHawker
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Posted - 2004.07.17 23:32:00 -
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It's a misunderstood conception when people think Amarrians in general treat their slaves badly. This may suprise you but yes indeed we see our slaves as higher then property and higher then animals. They are treated well, though slaves may never enjoy full citizenship to our glorious Empire they have the second best thing... front row seats.
I personaly don't care for slaves one way or the other, not all Amarrians are keepers to slaves even wealthy ones. Some Amarrians like my family aren't frugal enough not to spend a few more ISK for robots and machines that don't complain about long hours.
What are you going to do?
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NoHawker
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Posted - 2004.07.17 23:32:00 -
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It's a misunderstood conception when people think Amarrians in general treat their slaves badly. This may suprise you but yes indeed we see our slaves as higher then property and higher then animals. They are treated well, though slaves may never enjoy full citizenship to our glorious Empire they have the second best thing... front row seats.
I personaly don't care for slaves one way or the other, not all Amarrians are keepers to slaves even wealthy ones. Some Amarrians like my family aren't frugal enough not to spend a few more ISK for robots and machines that don't complain about long hours.
What are you going to do?
I'm going to kill them all sir |
Phony v2
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Posted - 2004.07.18 01:06:00 -
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If someone could discover the location of a large scale slave housing compound I would glady strike against it. I'll bring battleships filled with marines (hint hint CCP maybe you could make marines useful for this purpose or others?) FREE ALL SLAVES!
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Phony v2
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Posted - 2004.07.18 01:06:00 -
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If someone could discover the location of a large scale slave housing compound I would glady strike against it. I'll bring battleships filled with marines (hint hint CCP maybe you could make marines useful for this purpose or others?) FREE ALL SLAVES!
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Ris Dnalor
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Posted - 2004.07.18 01:39:00 -
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Edited by: Ris Dnalor on 18/07/2004 01:45:14
The Ammarians presume they have the right to own Minmatar as one might own an object. The quality of treatment they receive is irrelevant. They are people, & as such cannot be owned.
If one says that a slave is happy with a 'stress free life of servitude', then educate that person, give them another option.. make them aware that they have options... make them unafraid to seek out options... & then, if they still choose that life, there are plenty of career choices that allow for slim pay, with room & board provided. However, if there were plenty of people out there in the galaxy who were willing to choose to work countless hours for 'peanuts', then there would be no added benefit for the ammarians to use slave-labor, & the Amarrians would have no qualms releasing their slaves. The added benefit they get from using slaves, is more isk in their pocket. Isk that they gain by depriving their slaves of the minimum quality of life standards that we free people take for granted. It is abhorrent that these people would in engage in such behaviour, but it is more unbelievable that so many people stand by & allow it to happen. CONCORD, on the other hand, is preventing us from freeing our brethren, educating them, & allowing them to choose their own paths in life. It is inconceievable for me to think that CONCORD actually will protect these amarrian slavers from we minmatar who so selflessly try to free our brothers.
Something must be done. If the powers that be continue to ignore this situation, it will come to a head, & ulitmately if concord stands in the way of the human rights of our brothers, then they too will be judged guilty of denying basic human rights to it's citizens & while Concord does much good by maintaining order in the empire, that will not outweigh it's crimes & concord will come under fire along with the slavers.
Politics bedamned. Right is right. This must change. If change isn't willingly made, change will be forced.
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Ris Dnalor
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Posted - 2004.07.18 01:39:00 -
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Edited by: Ris Dnalor on 18/07/2004 01:45:14
The Ammarians presume they have the right to own Minmatar as one might own an object. The quality of treatment they receive is irrelevant. They are people, & as such cannot be owned.
If one says that a slave is happy with a 'stress free life of servitude', then educate that person, give them another option.. make them aware that they have options... make them unafraid to seek out options... & then, if they still choose that life, there are plenty of career choices that allow for slim pay, with room & board provided. However, if there were plenty of people out there in the galaxy who were willing to choose to work countless hours for 'peanuts', then there would be no added benefit for the ammarians to use slave-labor, & the Amarrians would have no qualms releasing their slaves. The added benefit they get from using slaves, is more isk in their pocket. Isk that they gain by depriving their slaves of the minimum quality of life standards that we free people take for granted. It is abhorrent that these people would in engage in such behaviour, but it is more unbelievable that so many people stand by & allow it to happen. CONCORD, on the other hand, is preventing us from freeing our brethren, educating them, & allowing them to choose their own paths in life. It is inconceievable for me to think that CONCORD actually will protect these amarrian slavers from we minmatar who so selflessly try to free our brothers.
Something must be done. If the powers that be continue to ignore this situation, it will come to a head, & ulitmately if concord stands in the way of the human rights of our brothers, then they too will be judged guilty of denying basic human rights to it's citizens & while Concord does much good by maintaining order in the empire, that will not outweigh it's crimes & concord will come under fire along with the slavers.
Politics bedamned. Right is right. This must change. If change isn't willingly made, change will be forced.
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Kyle Kador
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Posted - 2004.07.18 05:53:00 -
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Strange how you people place old earth values in the eve universe 
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Kyle Kador
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Posted - 2004.07.18 05:53:00 -
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Strange how you people place old earth values in the eve universe
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F'nog
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Posted - 2004.07.18 06:05:00 -
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And how am I supposed to keep my ship clean without slaves? And what about my food? Who will serve me? Please think before you post.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2004.07.18 06:05:00 -
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And how am I supposed to keep my ship clean without slaves? And what about my food? Who will serve me? Please think before you post.
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Nebulous
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Posted - 2004.07.18 08:41:00 -
[53]
well said ris :)
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Nebulous
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Posted - 2004.07.18 08:41:00 -
[54]
well said ris :)
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Borvak Hdrak
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Posted - 2004.07.19 11:30:00 -
[55]
I share your pain Nebulous.
Rise up and strike against all Amarrian corporations. Don't stop fighting until the whole of the Amarrian Empire is burning and all of our people have been brought home.
We will not live in slavery.
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Borvak Hdrak
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Posted - 2004.07.19 11:30:00 -
[56]
I share your pain Nebulous.
Rise up and strike against all Amarrian corporations. Don't stop fighting until the whole of the Amarrian Empire is burning and all of our people have been brought home.
We will not live in slavery.
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Helplessandlost
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Posted - 2004.07.19 11:47:00 -
[57]
Option to free them 
Check us out
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Helplessandlost
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Posted - 2004.07.19 11:47:00 -
[58]
Option to free them
Check us out
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Aturayd
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Posted - 2004.07.19 11:58:00 -
[59]
Just to let all you fanatical abolishionists know, that freeing the slaves all at once in one swoop would be wrong, cruel, and devastating. THe only way to properly free a slave is to educate it in the ways of the world, show it how to survive on its own, give it industrial skills and teach them a trade. Then you can release them, but this takes a long time to release slaves. If it is done correctly like this, there will never be any "hatred" between the slaves and the former slave owners or any stupid race warfare within the Amarr Empire.
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Aturayd
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Posted - 2004.07.19 11:58:00 -
[60]
Just to let all you fanatical abolishionists know, that freeing the slaves all at once in one swoop would be wrong, cruel, and devastating. THe only way to properly free a slave is to educate it in the ways of the world, show it how to survive on its own, give it industrial skills and teach them a trade. Then you can release them, but this takes a long time to release slaves. If it is done correctly like this, there will never be any "hatred" between the slaves and the former slave owners or any stupid race warfare within the Amarr Empire.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.19 11:58:00 -
[61]
The adopted ("slavery" is such an emotive word) Minmatars aren't so bad off. My adoptees look up to me as a kindly uncle, and their children eat the Werthers Originals that I give them.
Anyway, shouldn't this be in the Intergalactic Summit?
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.07.19 11:58:00 -
[62]
The adopted ("slavery" is such an emotive word) Minmatars aren't so bad off. My adoptees look up to me as a kindly uncle, and their children eat the Werthers Originals that I give them.
Anyway, shouldn't this be in the Intergalactic Summit?
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Kitten Hearder
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Posted - 2004.07.19 13:35:00 -
[63]
But I like my little Min slave! She's so cute! 
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Evolution made my sig
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Kitten Hearder
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Posted - 2004.07.19 13:35:00 -
[64]
But I like my little Min slave! She's so cute!
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Evolution made my sig
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Helplessandlost
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Posted - 2004.07.19 13:45:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Kitten Hearder
But I like my little Min slave! She's so cute!
Err...
Check us out
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Helplessandlost
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Posted - 2004.07.19 13:45:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Kitten Hearder
But I like my little Min slave! She's so cute!
Err...
Check us out
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Kitten Hearder
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Posted - 2004.07.19 14:25:00 -
[67]
Nice try, boy.
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Kitten Hearder
Evolution made my sig
Less Entertaining
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Kitten Hearder
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Posted - 2004.07.19 14:25:00 -
[68]
Nice try, boy.
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Kitten Hearder
Evolution made my sig
Less Entertaining
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Syrex
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Posted - 2004.07.19 15:02:00 -
[69]
Im with ya on any attack aimed at the amarr!!
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Syrex
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Posted - 2004.07.19 15:02:00 -
[70]
Im with ya on any attack aimed at the amarr!!
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Helplessandlost
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Posted - 2004.07.19 15:23:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Kitten Hearder
Nice try, boy.
But I thought I was your min slave?
Check us out
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Helplessandlost
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Posted - 2004.07.19 15:23:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Kitten Hearder
Nice try, boy.
But I thought I was your min slave?
Check us out
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Kitten Hearder
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Posted - 2004.07.19 15:41:00 -
[73]
Edited by: Kitten Hearder on 19/07/2004 15:42:58
I suppose I could have multiple slaves. Sounds like a lot of work, though.
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Kitten Hearder
Evolution made my sig
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Kitten Hearder
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Posted - 2004.07.19 15:41:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Kitten Hearder on 19/07/2004 15:42:58
I suppose I could have multiple slaves. Sounds like a lot of work, though.
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Kitten Hearder
Evolution made my sig
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.07.19 16:18:00 -
[75]
*gets dizzy*
But if we had no slaves, what should we do?
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.07.19 16:18:00 -
[76]
*gets dizzy*
But if we had no slaves, what should we do?
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Tarm
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Posted - 2004.07.19 16:36:00 -
[77]
PIE Inc Policy On Slaves
The Emperor has stated that slaves must be treated fairly. We, as upholders of the faith and guardians of the Empire, must therefore be seen to treat slaves fairly. If we do not, we go against the word of our Emperor and therefore the word of God.
PIE Inc members are free to keep and trade slaves. But slaves will not be murdered in cold blood. This is cowardly and dishonourable.
Further guidance is available from the PIE Inc chaplain, Ezar Vorbarra or from Jim HawkinsÆ Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Slaves.
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Tarm
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Posted - 2004.07.19 16:36:00 -
[78]
PIE Inc Policy On Slaves
The Emperor has stated that slaves must be treated fairly. We, as upholders of the faith and guardians of the Empire, must therefore be seen to treat slaves fairly. If we do not, we go against the word of our Emperor and therefore the word of God.
PIE Inc members are free to keep and trade slaves. But slaves will not be murdered in cold blood. This is cowardly and dishonourable.
Further guidance is available from the PIE Inc chaplain, Ezar Vorbarra or from Jim HawkinsÆ Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Slaves.
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Lagar
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Posted - 2004.07.19 20:19:00 -
[79]
Galante and Caldari.. Note this is mostly Minmatar and Amarr buisnes so Galante and caldari can stay and watch. i will go for my coke tho.. nah not quafe.. it tastes badly
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Lagar
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Posted - 2004.07.19 20:19:00 -
[80]
Galante and Caldari.. Note this is mostly Minmatar and Amarr buisnes so Galante and caldari can stay and watch. i will go for my coke tho.. nah not quafe.. it tastes badly
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Brather
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Posted - 2004.07.19 20:34:00 -
[81]
so i guess i should stop leaving slaves in stations huh...
well i have over 100 of themn all across space.
at least they're not being harrased though i heard the cops were using them to scrub the hangars..
well i didi my part at freeing them in the first place but i nnever signed up for keeping them afterwards did i
so i suggest ccp makes a way of either releasing them into a planet for them to live or they will be soon becoming targets in space not for me offcourse.
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Brather
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Posted - 2004.07.19 20:34:00 -
[82]
so i guess i should stop leaving slaves in stations huh...
well i have over 100 of themn all across space.
at least they're not being harrased though i heard the cops were using them to scrub the hangars..
well i didi my part at freeing them in the first place but i nnever signed up for keeping them afterwards did i
so i suggest ccp makes a way of either releasing them into a planet for them to live or they will be soon becoming targets in space not for me offcourse.
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Duhoh
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Posted - 2004.07.19 21:46:00 -
[83]
What's a slave?
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Duhoh
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Posted - 2004.07.19 21:46:00 -
[84]
What's a slave?
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Covex
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Posted - 2004.07.19 22:21:00 -
[85]
To just come out and say Ablish Minmatar Slavery now is like me going to a bar going up to a hot girl and saying I want sex now. There is little chance either of us will get our ways.
wait a sec, there is a chance, it might just work. makes a mental note to go to shellhamers or duffers this thursday
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Covex
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Posted - 2004.07.19 22:21:00 -
[86]
To just come out and say Ablish Minmatar Slavery now is like me going to a bar going up to a hot girl and saying I want sex now. There is little chance either of us will get our ways.
wait a sec, there is a chance, it might just work. makes a mental note to go to shellhamers or duffers this thursday
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Orb Lati
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Posted - 2004.07.20 00:58:00 -
[87]
Just a small question popped into my head as i thought about the market system for eve.
Do Slaves require to be assembled? :P
"We Worship Strength, because it is through strength that all other values are made possible" |
Orb Lati
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Posted - 2004.07.20 00:58:00 -
[88]
Just a small question popped into my head as i thought about the market system for eve.
Do Slaves require to be assembled? :P
"We Worship Strength, because it is through strength that all other values are made possible" |
Harry Voyager
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Posted - 2004.07.20 02:10:00 -
[89]
Just on the side note of biblical theology, Adam and Eve were given full knowledge of all Good. The only thing they were able to gain from the Tree of Knowledge was the knowledge of Evil, which in fact, they were already being prepared to be granted the knowledge of, once they were able to handle it.
That is what the instructions to "till the Earth" were actually all about. They were supposed to till the knowledge they had been given, until they were sufficiently ready to handle the knowledge of evil. Well, being the impatient, willful beings that we are, and being well vested with free will, we didn't wait, and well, we've got what we've got now.
And on the subject of missing things, if you are missing something, you know. You may not know what you are missing, or how to find it again, but like a gaping hole in the middle of the road, you know that something is gone.
Harry Voyager
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Harry Voyager
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Posted - 2004.07.20 02:10:00 -
[90]
Just on the side note of biblical theology, Adam and Eve were given full knowledge of all Good. The only thing they were able to gain from the Tree of Knowledge was the knowledge of Evil, which in fact, they were already being prepared to be granted the knowledge of, once they were able to handle it.
That is what the instructions to "till the Earth" were actually all about. They were supposed to till the knowledge they had been given, until they were sufficiently ready to handle the knowledge of evil. Well, being the impatient, willful beings that we are, and being well vested with free will, we didn't wait, and well, we've got what we've got now.
And on the subject of missing things, if you are missing something, you know. You may not know what you are missing, or how to find it again, but like a gaping hole in the middle of the road, you know that something is gone.
Harry Voyager
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