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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.12.16 22:52:00 -
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Edited by: James Lyrus on 16/12/2008 22:54:09
This is a public information broadcast. I wish to inform you that precision missiles are not worth cargo bay space:
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Note how at every single velocity on a cruiser sized signature, faction heavy missiles do more damage.
Similar chart for MWDing frigates
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Esmenet
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.12.16 23:04:00 -
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Well then you are not reading your own graph right as the precision gets slightly better after around 1000 m/s. And costs a fraction of what faction ammo does.
But yes its not exactly news that t2 ammo needs work.
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Bronson Hughes
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
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Posted - 2008.12.16 23:08:00 -
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 Originally by: James Lyrus
Note how at every single velocity on a cruiser sized signature, faction heavy missiles do more damage.
Precision missiles were never intended to be used on a like-sized target. Try your precision heavies on frigates with various fits (i.e. AB, MWD, MWDing-'ceptor, etc.) before drawing any conslusions. Mind you, I'm not disagreeing with you; they could well be crap against frigates too but you should check that before writing them off.
What I can tell you, however, is that since there is no smaller-than-a-frigate target that precision lights generally aren't worth the range penalty they impose.
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Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
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Posted - 2008.12.16 23:19:00 -
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Percision lights are for drones that aren't shooting at you.
If they ARE shooting at you, then you'll get BBQed
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Jay T
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Posted - 2008.12.16 23:32:00 -
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Heavy Missiles Precisions are totatly useless, basically its about 10 less sig radius on the missiles for the loss of 80-90 damage.
The only viable way of fixing them is to dramtically increase there explosion velocity in order to make them a effective counter against afterburning targets of around the same ship type. (IMO)
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Beardponderer
You're Doing It Wrong
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Posted - 2008.12.16 23:53:00 -
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Correct! Would you like a cookie?
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BiggestT
Caldari
Resurrection
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2008.12.17 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Jay T
Heavy Missiles Precisions are totatly useless, basically its about 10 less sig radius on the missiles for the loss of 80-90 damage.
The only viable way of fixing them is to dramtically increase there explosion velocity in order to make them a effective counter against afterburning targets of around the same ship type. (IMO)
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Tasko Pal
Heron Corporation
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Posted - 2008.12.17 01:35:00 -
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There's another thing. I'm seeing a "damage reduction factor" (DRF) on missiles. The precision missiles have a DRF of 2.7 while the standard and faction missiles have a DRF of 3.2. Whatever that means. That seems the most significant change (aside from halving the flight time for precision missiles, bleh!).
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Max Hardcase
Art of War
Exalted.
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Posted - 2008.12.17 07:03:00 -
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Edited by: Max Hardcase on 17/12/2008 07:03:21
drf determines how quickly dmg degrades with speed.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.12.17 09:20:00 -
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Originally by: Max Hardcase
Edited by: Max Hardcase on 17/12/2008 07:03:21
drf determines how quickly dmg degrades with speed.
So less is better?
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Carniflex
Caldari
StarHunt
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.12.17 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Max Hardcase
Edited by: Max Hardcase on 17/12/2008 07:03:21
drf determines how quickly dmg degrades with speed.
So less is better?
Yes. Smaller drf means that when your target speed increases your missile with smaller drf will lose damage slower to the speed than the one with higher drf.
And yes - at low target speeds faction missiles will beat the crap out of precisions.
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Leeluvv
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.12.18 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: Carniflex
And yes - at low target speeds faction missiles will beat the crap out of precisions.
Whereas, at high speeds, the target will be using a MWD, so faction missiles will beat the crap out of precisions (and they have twice the range).
So, why do Precisions exist at all?
Lee
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