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ShadowDraqon
Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2008.12.18 12:40:00 -
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Scamming is a valid gameplay style, not that I do it.
If you're not smart enough to avoid buying a normal megathron for 270 million, well, then buhu, this isn't a game for you to log in and go braindead for 6 hours.
Eve IS a sandbox game:
- Sandbox game: YOU decide what you want to do and how, where, and when you want to do it. Imagination is your biggest limit.
- Not sandbox game: You can only do this and that, decided by the game designers. All your goals in the game are predetermined, requiring you to do this, then that, then the other thing, in that order. The game is played along a closed line of events.
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Caldari
Dark Knights of Deneb
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Posted - 2008.12.18 13:10:00 -
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CCP does not promote scamming, but its a part of the world we play in.
They however do promote and market the ability to kill people. hows that compared to scamming?
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eliminator2
Gallente
Young Enterprise
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.12.18 13:21:00 -
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 Originally by: Nnamuachs
Originally by: Johli
EVE ≠ RL
WHAT?!?! since when?
Also.. you go to jail for killing someone in real life... so everyone who kills another player in eve should be banned too...
troll or worse a WOW player
this however made me laugh about been banned ^^
game? online? multiplayer? do anything you want within EULA?
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Drogher Forerunner
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Posted - 2008.12.18 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: de drada
Edited by: de drada on 18/12/2008 07:02:53
Scamming is part of eve since eve exists and will allways be part of eve. But it has reached a level now which is far to high and could be easyly cut down.
1. disable contracts for trial-accounts
Most of the scammers seem to use trial accounts over and over and disabling contracts for trial accounts will cut scams significant.
2. block users after lets say 500 posts in Jita local during one day
IMHO scammers use bots or macro for their advertisments in local, because no matter what time it is, i see always the same scammers (switching to a new trial account after a couple of days) posting their contracts at frequent intervals
1.That is a really good idea. Not having contracts for people actually checking out the game might seem like removing a key piece of the game for them to learn about but really, if your a on a trial account you couldnt afford the contracts anyway. It would just be one of those many things players cant wait to check out once they begin to pay for the game. The tutorial could still explain what it does to wet a players appitite for when they begin paying.
2. not sure on the limit there, but im guessing your just throwing in a ball park figure.
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Esmenet
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.12.18 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: de drada
2. block users after lets say 500 posts in Jita local during one day
IMHO scammers use bots or macro for their advertisments in local, because no matter what time it is, i see always the same scammers (switching to a new trial account after a couple of days) posting their contracts at frequent intervals
Everyone that gets scammed deserves it, but this i actually agree with. Not because its scammers, but because they are spammers.
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Enkimdu
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Posted - 2008.12.18 14:54:00 -
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Not bothered to read the previous posts but
IF YOU GET SCAMMED, YOU DESERVE IT. DONT ACCEPT STUPID CONTRACTS OR BUY ITEMS THAT ARE OVER THE MARKET VALUE.
Scamming prevented.
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Scouteye
Locasta Tactical
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Posted - 2008.12.18 15:27:00 -
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Dont shop in Jita, its not the cheapest place anyway, thats a good way to stop getting scammed for a start 
Theres a forum on eve-o called crime and punishment, its where pirates and the like are named and shamed, corp thiefs etc.
Why not use it to name and shame those that are scammers.
CCP have given us the tools to both scamm and get revenge on scammers, you just have to use them.
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VoiceInTheDesert
Gallente
Diplomatic Disruption
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Posted - 2008.12.18 17:42:00 -
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This game is a sandbox. If you don't like that the other kids put some down your shirt, get a gun and shoot them in the face.
That's the beauty of the sandbox...you can do anything. Instead of being sad about your spaceship pixels, go get them back by stealing/destroying/scamming their pixels in return.
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de drada
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Posted - 2008.12.18 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Scouteye
Theres a forum on eve-o called crime and punishment, its where pirates and the like are named and shamed, corp thiefs etc.
Why not use it to name and shame those that are scammers.
Posting their names is totally sense- and useless. The scammers change their alt's after few days. A trial account lasts 14 days, you have 3 chars per account, that means you can use a char 5 days, if you are to lazy to create a new trial-account.
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Rhett Buttler
Amarr
NNP alt mining corp of doom
Wong Thong Crew
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Posted - 2008.12.18 20:38:00 -
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i stopped reading right after you started compairing an internet spaceship game set 20+ thousand years into the future to real life...
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Anarich
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.12.18 23:25:00 -
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Actually Jita is sometimes the cheapest place for some things at least for the Forge region. It is also sometimes the most expensive place for some things, like trit. Maybe an ability to vote to collectively mute someone might be helpful. Most of the scamming I can tell in Jita is either via contracts or via send me money and I will send you #x fold. A reworking of contracts to make them clearer would fix alot of the scamming being done. And if you are sending strangers money, then umm. honestly, just don't expect to get anything back.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.12.18 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Mbizi
Originally by: Grarr Dexx
No. Eve's a goddamned sandbox. Stop being an idiot and getting scammed. I've never been scammed in the entire ten months or so that I've played. CCP needs to keep their police, it's a bar of sorts, helps keep the incredible idiots out of our beloved game.
If it is a sandbox then why not allow isk farming/reselling/etc...? Why not allow macroing? Oh yea because it's not sandbox.
What is a sandbox to you anyways? Or did you hear someone else say it and thought it made you sound credible?
You are a ****ing tard. ISK farming is allowed, but selling is not because you are trying to claim CCP's assets (the pixels, remember?). Get your material straight before you EVER click the post button again.
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Berikath
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Posted - 2008.12.19 00:41:00 -
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Edited by: Berikath on 19/12/2008 00:41:34
Originally by: Grarr Dexx
You are a ****ing tard. ISK farming is allowed, but selling is not because you are trying to claim CCP's assets (the pixels, remember?). Get your material straight before you EVER click the post button again.
1. Wow. Way to make your point WITHOUT seeming like a complete ****.
2. You didn't even address macroing.
3. ISK selling isn't selling pixels, it's selling entries in a database. Hey, guess what GTCs are? Entries in a database! Why is it allowed to sell one entry, but not another? Oh yeah, because CCP wants to retain control over their world, and they only make money off one of them.
The game is not a sandbox in the way you are implying. Get your own bloody facts straight before posting again.
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