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Xol'tan Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2008.12.25 16:53:00 - [31] Eh? whats all this about
Seideberg The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.	Posted - 2008.12.26 03:25:00 - [32] Originally by: Funkcikle Fried can u imagine, back in the old aeschee day having Foom described as a Pro vet corp dude ? Awesome, you've come a long way and done a lot. Youve Done it all wrong mind you, now what u should have done is .... :P "But it was so artfully done." Name that quote.
Sillas Cov 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2008.12.26 19:28:00 - [33] Black Rise as a new region of Eve, is quickly evolving into a mature region of the Eve universe, with all the attendant, diverse populations, trade, warfare and drama that make Eve such a rich and compelling Virtual world. I am personally enthralled with the compelling dynamic of this game as I am drawn in to Black Rise and what is currently happening there. Foom is now a significant player in the community that is Black Rise!! I have been a inhabitant if the Rise since it was opened up as a frontier a few months ago, and consider it my home in Eve. (It was exciting placing the 1st orders up on the market in Black rise and seeing no other orders up for similar things within the whole region!) As such we have a need to protect my interests there and have been taken in by the 22nd, and quickly have been forced to face the reality of Foom operating out of NWest Black Rise. As Pvp Nub, my brutal experience in Fighting Foom has pulled out my competitive nature and really drawn me into committing to learn pvp, which I'll admit is an extreme challenge most of the time. But I would admit now the quality of my gameplay in Eve is enhanced a thousand fold with such a lethal local adversary, due to the fact that it is so very easy for me to naturally roleplay the under dog in a harsh desperate campaign. I have named Foom Base of operations the hornets nest and for good reason, due to the fact that if you are not organized and lead by an Fc understanding of what is required to operate within that set of stars, you will be molested, and the running will for your life will ensue as I have experienced more than once.... LOL My hope in fact is that Foom will stay the course long enough for the Cal militia based in Norv and area will understand the serioulsy cool pvp opportunities in Black Rise and either base operations out of HiSec Black Rise, and or fly the required jumps into Nennimalia and Kinakka to initiate operations against Foom as these will fast become border systems in this emerging war. I have flown with Raider, BuzzKill, Draco, Capt Thryss and many other very skilled and dedicated Cal militia pilots and am having the time of my life with the small gang ops that we are called to initiate!! Foom I will work to thwart you and yours, and look forward to honing my Skills against you in the endless dark that is deep space!! Onward Sillas
Bablu Hassan Minmatar Steel Soldier's NEXUS ALLIANCE	Posted - 2008.12.27 02:42:00 - [34] Edited by: Bablu Hassan on 27/12/2008 02:45:27 Well if you wanna stir up the "hornets nest" a little bit come blow this up: FOOM Alt corp mining/refining/whatever POS Its only a couple jumps into 0.0! Go drake em to death YARRRRR!
Zarek Shad	Posted - 2008.12.27 03:34:00 - [35] With FOOM now using their cap fleet in FW, could we see capital ship battles becoming an important part of future engagements? IMO this developement would certainly be bad for noobs looking to get into pvp via FW.
Friedrick Psitalon The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.	Posted - 2008.12.27 03:58:00 - [36] Edited by: Friedrick Psitalon on 27/12/2008 03:58:48 1. We are by no means the first to use caps, or hotdrop with them. I believe Outbreak holds that honor. 2. Noobs should learn not to fear caps; blackbird+celestis per carrier = ruined carrier. Noobs can fly those just fine. The sooner they learn that, the better they'll be. Blackbird+Celestis is a highly effective noob combo in general, actually, to shut down the scariest ships in an enemy fleet. Why not take advantage of it? 3. The Caldari militia collectively has more caps than we do (we keep track of their names) - they just don't have the collective will to use them. RE: the post before that; uh... that's not our POS, man. You go right ahead and provoke that owner.
Dex Nederland Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2008.12.27 04:17:00 - [37] Originally by: Friedrick Psitalon 2. Noobs should learn not to fear caps; blackbird+celestis per carrier = ruined carrier. Noobs can fly those just fine. The sooner they learn that, the better they'll be. Blackbird+Celestis is a highly effective noob combo in general, actually, to shut down the scariest ships in an enemy fleet. Why not take advantage of it? Another option is the Kitsune & Keres combo here; effective against any big target (or two!) that has long lock times on smaller ships... nothing like having 2 jam cycles to get one before the battleship can get a lock :) In-Game Browser : http://ldis.caldari-made.net
Friedrick Psitalon The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.	Posted - 2008.12.27 04:27:00 - [38] Originally by: Dex Nederland Originally by: Friedrick Psitalon 2. Noobs should learn not to fear caps; blackbird+celestis per carrier = ruined carrier. Noobs can fly those just fine. The sooner they learn that, the better they'll be. Blackbird+Celestis is a highly effective noob combo in general, actually, to shut down the scariest ships in an enemy fleet. Why not take advantage of it? Another option is the Kitsune & Keres combo here; effective against any big target (or two!) that has long lock times on smaller ships... nothing like having 2 jam cycles to get one before the battleship can get a lock :) Oh definitely; I was aiming for a lower-cost and lower-SP suggestion, though.
Dex Nederland Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2008.12.27 04:39:00 - [39] EAFs are still relatively low skill requirements. I haven't done the math, but I suspect a 2 week old character could pilot one. But yes they are a bit more expensive. I also am not manufacturing and selling fitted Kitsune yet, but Blackbirds should be a week or two away... In-Game Browser : http://ldis.caldari-made.net
Sillas Cov 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2008.12.27 17:36:00 - [40] Edited by: Sillas Cov on 27/12/2008 17:39:18 From my direct experience the most effective tactic in fac war to slow and stop systems flipping is the Persistent use of organized small fleet operations. There are so many benefits I can see that reward this type of response to Foom, that I get nervous when our Cal Milita fleets climb over 10 pilots on a weekend mission run. Forward basing a ship supply to deal with the situation at hand is critical and as I have seen Foom has been busy in Innia doing just that! From Innia Foom is now able to plex with ease 5 key systems in western Black Rise, with small gang tactics, which could be fully countered with solid 6 pilot fleets!! Cap ship use is over kill untill you need to take a system!! Hell even Battle Cruisers seem over kill at times when running a plexing operation as I have found T1 cruzers and E war ships to be solid placeholders in a fleet. Mind you getting a BBird into an optimal around a plex entry gate is very tricky as the 100 km Safety net is a sweet spot that takes time to set up!! And one that an Inty can compromise so very quickly!! LOL I would argue the most effective ships types in Fac war is the one you fly!! Given that the run and gun tactics in and out of plex entry points is so very fluid and tactical in its execution! I would like to extend a solid compliment to Foom as I see they are running more smaller T1 ships in thier gangs. I have commented in local that this was generally a good tactic as I feel gamesmanship in this war would improve with less T2 ship gankage! I was in 3 fights in plexs against Rip Torn and Foom and other Gal militia pilots who all flew smaller ships and I must say it was fully exciting due to the matched fleets strengths and pilot skills involved! It was extremely rewarding to tangle with these quality pilots whom choose skill over gank!! Im actually going to hone my T1 ship skills and see how far I can push this level of ship within this war as I really am not into Hac pimping at this point, even tho I have the budget for it. Cap Fleets in Black Rise?? Well yes, but I would call for persistent small gang patrols in western B Rise to counter the slow on slot of Foom operations. Onward!! Sillas
RIP T'orn The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.	Posted - 2008.12.27 18:12:00 - [41] Sillas man. You're a worthy opponent for sure. You always bring the fight, and that's very respectable. You're persistent buddy, and it's paying off. I see you getting better and better at PvP. I look forward to fighting you more in the future man, but if you ever see the light, and decide to join the winning side, hit me up and I'll fleet with you any day.

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