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Schalac Caldari Apocalypse Reign	Posted - 2008.12.22 12:42:00 - [91] This whole thread is faulty logic. Once you purchase a GTC you have now payed CCP for 30 or 60 days of play time. CCP owns it. Once you CHOOSE to turn your GTC into a PLEX card it is now an in game item and susceptible to all the scams and theft just as all other in game items are. They are no different than a 300 or 600 mil ship and do not constitute a real life value.
Schalac Caldari Apocalypse Reign	Posted - 2008.12.22 12:48:00 - [92] Originally by: Mika Meroko Originally by: Ephemeron Originally by: Abrazzar It is irrelevant whether or not items in EVE have a RL value. They are all owned by CCP. A GTC however is owned by the player until cashed in. And there is the judicial difference. The player always gets his GTC. But once it is in the hands of the player, CCP's responsibility is over. Now whatever the player does with it is his own responsibility. If he loses it - tough luck ... in your world it might work like that... is your opinion.... but yeah, we live in a world where Chainsaws have warning labels to warn people not to stop moving blades with a body part. .... I am sorry to say, that "touch luck" attitude might work well in 3rd world countries... but it just wont stand in the nuthouse that is our court of law... P.S: In Canada, if a burglar comes to your house, you are NOT allowed to hurt him. if you beat him up for robbing your house, he could SUE you AND win... thats how ridiculous court systems are... Dont blame CCP... Blame the sorry excuse of a court system we have in the Western World. This whole post is so far from the truth that it makes me laugh. If you feel threatened in your home you damn sure are allowed to defend your person and property with appropriate force. Just stop with your bull**** please.
Durzel Caldari	Posted - 2008.12.22 13:13:00 - [93] Originally by: Qui Shon Originally by: Ephemeron Your typical mothership pilot puts $1000 USD on the line in combat titan pilots can have $10,000 worth of stuff on the line What's the conversion rate nowadays? Eve isk to usd? It's somewhat academic what the conversion rate is. Ingame stuff, even motherships, don't have a "known value" - if CCP decided overnight to drastically lower the build costs to the point where Nyxs could be farmed out like ammo then the people that paid 18B+ for them would suddenly find theirs worth next to nothing. Obviously CCP is unlikely to ever do this, but they could - and that's the point. GTC/PLEXs on the other hand have a fixed real-world value, they cost a fixed amount of real world money to buy (in the first instance anyway). There is, at least in my mind, a difference between something that has intrinsic value, and something that has transient value.
Schalac Caldari Apocalypse Reign	Posted - 2008.12.22 13:37:00 - [94] Originally by: Durzel Originally by: Qui Shon Originally by: Ephemeron Your typical mothership pilot puts $1000 USD on the line in combat titan pilots can have $10,000 worth of stuff on the line What's the conversion rate nowadays? Eve isk to usd? It's somewhat academic what the conversion rate is. Ingame stuff, even motherships, don't have a "known value" - if CCP decided overnight to drastically lower the build costs to the point where Nyxs could be farmed out like ammo then the people that paid 18B+ for them would suddenly find theirs worth next to nothing. Obviously CCP is unlikely to ever do this, but they could - and that's the point. GTC/PLEXs on the other hand have a fixed real-world value, they cost a fixed amount of real world money to buy (in the first instance anyway). There is, at least in my mind, a difference between something that has intrinsic value, and something that has transient value. Except the only value they have is tied into the game. If CCP decided tomorrow that EVE will now be free to play then all those GTCs purchased are now worthless. Also there is no ISK to USD conversion rate because you can't take ISK to a bank and ask for USD.
Brainless Bimbo Minmatar	Posted - 2008.12.22 14:01:00 - [95] Originally by: Ephemeron yes, I want to pop carebear and get PLEX code. What's wrong with that, seriously? You should ask your shrink for advice about those thoughts and what they make you feel, but remember that advice will vary according to thier dogma and your other RL issues so shop around, personally i'll put it down to Ephemerom just being a peice of s**te with selfworth issues, well you did ask..... PLEX's can't be moved for the same reason GTC aren't traded in game for ISK but via secure CCP transaction, it stops farmers, fools and charlatans. ...... continues overleaf.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.12.22 14:17:00 - [96] Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: CCP Explorer Because you don't need them in-space for any purpose and they can be applied remotely via the assets list. You don't need exotic dancers in-space for any purpose either. You can look at them via the assets list. wow, I can't believe people voted for you. you can't do anything with them in space. and dancers are a trade item, you can make a profit buying and selling them on the NPC markets, but you wouldn't know that would you. They can be used remotly, unlike any other item in the game. Basically, they are NOT an in game item, it can't be moved because you can't touch it. It's like how I can't take isk and put it in my cargo hold but I still carry it around and and I can een give it to people and recieve it.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.12.22 14:18:00 - [97] Originally by: Schalac This whole thread is faulty logic. Once you purchase a GTC you have now payed CCP for 30 or 60 days of play time. CCP owns it. Once you CHOOSE to turn your GTC into a PLEX card it is now an in game item and susceptible to all the scams and theft just as all other in game items are. They are no different than a 300 or 600 mil ship and do not constitute a real life value. but why would you need to move it if you can use it anywhere any time from any place?
Jacob Holland Gallente Weyland-Vulcan Industries	Posted - 2008.12.22 14:24:00 - [98] The reason they can't be moved is that if someone ganks a ship full of PLEXs and makes off with the surviving ones they're in a legal grey area. Because PLEXs have a definitive real world value CCP have to be very careful with it. -- Originally by: cordy Respect to IAC .Your one of the few people who truly deserve to own and live in the space you are in.
Tarron Sarek Gallente Biotronics Inc. Alternative Realities	Posted - 2008.12.22 14:27:00 - [99] CCP has said 'no' and it's not exactly a game-breaking issue. So there really is no need to argue. Suck it up. ___________________________________ Balance is power, ~~guard~~ hide it well "Ceterum censeo Polycarbonem esse delendam"

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