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Helen
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.12.26 13:58:00 -
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Personally I think its the best mission running ship full stop.
Against Amarr Navy/Sansha/Blood Raider/Serpentis/Merc it just destroys bc and less in a volley.
Incredible dps which doesn't require a faction/officer fit to do well, some people will say a Paladin would be better but frankly I fly both with max skills and I reckon my mission times are alot quicker with the Nightmare thanks to the tracking bonus letting me hit cruisers at <20km.
Although the Paladin is handy for the long range tractor bonus letting you scoop up the mission loot abit quicker.
To be honest I think you have to try a Nightmare to really understand how good it is.
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Helen
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Posted - 2008.12.27 01:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Zeba
Geeze people you don't need all that exspensive stuff on your Nightmare you need it in your head so some enterprising mission ship hunter won't single you out for a nice little group suicide bs action.
Not all of us mission in high sec, I officer fit mine and use it in 0.0.
And yes it is worth it.
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Helen
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Posted - 2008.12.27 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Helen
Not all of us mission in high sec, I officer fit mine and use it in 0.0.
Well 0.0 is not high sec carebear mission land so of course your going to officer fit it as mission rats don't need the amount of hurt that kind of fit can bring. Plus you will have access to experienced backup compared to some poor sod whos been solo grinding missions for months to get his shiney exspensively fit Nighmare out of the station only to get it ganked shortly afterwards by some wiley ship scanning suiciders and lose it all. And I use my Nightmare to quickley amass jump clones and not for the lulz small amount of isk you get from level 4 mission running. 
I actually used to mission in 0.0 in Venal with 20 hostile russians trying to get me daily...
As for people who lose their expensive fit nightmare in empire who cares its their fault for A) missioning in a place where people get scanned. B) not using an scout to check for lots of bs with sensor boosters fitted.
As for you not earning much from lvl 4 mission running whose fault is that?
Its not got anything to do with a thread discussing the Nightmare anyway, bar running the thread off course.
Originally by: Vikarion
Oh, for the love of all things good and nice, DO NOT use Tachyons!
I don't know how many times I have to say this. Only use them until you get Mega Pulse II with Scorch. Much higher DPS, and you can reach out to 55 KM optimal with decent skills + another 10 KM fall off. with better skills you'll gain probably about 5KM to both.
That's with 3 HS II and 2 Tracking enhancers in the lows, and makes it much easier to pop orbiting cruisers as well. Just make sure you have Hobgoblin IIs for the tiny scrambler frigates.
I still don't get the fascination with Mega Pulse on a Nightmare sure it tracks good but I prefer Tachs for nearly every mission there is to run.
The amount of time I save by being able to shove radio/microwave crystals in to my tachs and hit those bs/cruisers at 120km saves me tons of time having to ab into range with pulse.
I guess you must get lots of kill missions with all the npcs within 40km range to make it worthwhile.
Personnaly I just love popping every frig/cruiser at range then hitting the BS who have been slowboating to me with Amarr Navy Multifrequency crystals and watching them melt.
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Helen
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Posted - 2008.12.27 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Janu Hull
Cripes, that thing would eat plexes like candy...
Drone plexs?
Probably yeah but I find a Ishtar more suitable for plexing purposes.
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Helen
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Posted - 2008.12.27 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Originally by: Letri Bimmet
Nightmare is a awesome mission boat.
I prefer tachs to pulses myself, just love them high damage wreckings.
And I use a large booster, can pretty much premarun with that.
Tho I really should fit a ab....thing is as fast as frozen snail
Hehe, with Tachs I would not bother to fit propulsion modules ^^
Some missions require lengthy travel times to gates, I always keep one fitted anyway.
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Helen
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Posted - 2008.12.28 10:19:00 -
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Eurgh its not a bloody drake whats with this tanking rubbish.
The whole idea is to gank to tank with a Nightmare.
Personally I don't have issues just using a 5 slot tank:
XL T2 Booster
T2 Shield Boost Amp
2 x Invulnerability Field T2
1 x Photon Hardner T2
Then a 100mn Afterburner with a Sensor Booster (usually loaded with scan res for locking frigs quick before they reach high transversal).
Never had an issue with this for nearly all missions as long as aggro is managed.
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Helen
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Posted - 2008.12.29 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
you underestimate how damn lazy I (and/or a lot of eve players) am (are). 
I usually overestimate the cleverness of eve players alot but if your using a Nightmare for running missions I presume its to speed run missions rather than go lolafk (Dominix).
Still each to their own.
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Helen
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Posted - 2008.12.30 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Petyr Baelich
Originally by: McFly
I use TS Mega Pulses I'm not worried about speed missioning or anything really and I like switching ammo as things get closer and really with my optimal on radio's at 47km fall off hitting at 57 ish... I haven't had any problems, my fit does not include crystals (they are saved in a JC for my other nightmare for PVP)
Every time you fit a Nightmare this way, a baby Sansha pirate dies. :(
Please for the love of god fit tachs even if just to try them they track like Mega Pulse with the Nightmare bonus and have superior range and dps. Especially as you aren't using Scorch with T2 Mega Pulse.
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